you can almost smell the desperation of the deluded. comment pending approval,says it all,in many of there videos, its a case of leave your brain at the church entry door. what a shameless bunch.
He is also a coward who cannot stand someone beating him in the argument. He blocked one of my comments on criticizing shepards channel and now I am blocked as well. Only people who cannot refute something they dont like do cowardly things like that and all they do is prove how wrong and afraid they are!
Even Jordan Maxwell called Chris White out as a "satanist" and Chris denied it NOT.... It's because ALL these people are in bed with each other. AND I see people talking about "Islam"?.. How come? ALL "religions" are the SAME, in FACT if there were ANY one religion that is MOST "loyal" to THIER "god" that would ne Islam, because they pray to their Allah 5 times a day and the christian walks into a masonic building only 1 time a week, so WHO'S the most loyal? Lol! People cannot see what goes on.
KeithLIES is PART of the United Nations and the one''s he based his fabulous production on who are "new Age" as he claims, are WHO he and Chris White are working for. They have used these other people to point in their direction so no one will take a looksie at them. Chris White, connected to Chris Pinto, connected to Alex Jones and WEARECHANGE who promotes Pinto. Keith connected to John Piper, who is connected to Rick Warren who is a MEMBER of the United Nations CFR.. whattayaknow about that!
@QueenyCameron Whattayaknow about proof? I mean really, I don't trust anyone 100%, that includes a random commenter, so, if this is true, produce evidence, you have a youtube right? make a video, and put it as a response to this or other videos, don't just come out of know where saying this, it does no justice, and makes it look like your just saying this for your own reasons.
@Shadowlooker12 I DID make a video, it's right on my channel in front and I connected ALL these people together, it was a response to Keef Twoof which HE removed HIS uploads because he CANNOT respond to ME... My video was a response to HIM and instead of responding to mine, he simply removed his original.. And I LMAO!
now on to more about keith.i questioned his belief (calvinism),i didnt do it in a rude manor just stated what ive read about calvin and keith blocked me from adding comments.isnt that strange?i believe,there is a possibility mr"truth"is part of the same organizations he is exposing.they know there is a hell and want as many "christians"to go there as possible,so calvinism is just another gate to hell.calvin was a brutal tyrant and was known as the protestant pope.
@dead300times I don't agree with Calvinism, so called "4 point" or 5 point or ANY Calvinist views, but keiths arguments that he engages in for Christianity are pretty solid and valid, he does thorough research, and does not use Calvinism when it comes to defending Christianity from bs accusations.Calvinism has been refuted by good people and shown to be false teaching, too bad Keith is stuck on it, either A.Because he believes it or B.He's got an agenda.
keith has been confused in the past,like about what george washington said about the illuminati infultrating.however,these occultists do want to kill off a large part of the population.on the q and a section of shareintl.or maitreya(the person the new agers promote as christ)says when he appears all will be givin a choice to either follow him into the new age or be annihilated.ted turner,bill gates and alot of others promote population reduction.they should lead by example.
keith has been confused in the past,like about what george washington said about the illuminati infultrating.however,these occultists do want to kill off a large part of the population.on the q and a section of shareintl.or maitreya(the person the new agers promote as christ)says when he appears all will be givin a choice to either follow him into the new age or be annihilated.ted turner,bill gates and alot of others promote population reduction.they should lead by example.
Are you serious you totally only put parts in there too make KTruth look like a lair it's sad that so many people can't accept the truth, Even when they are blessed enough too have a person go out of the way too tell them. I'll pray for you.
who gives a fuck this is the dumbest video ever and yes acharaya is against christian religion. How? Well it goes much further in depth than posting one paragraph she quoted from edward carpenter, but by saying christianity needs to change in order to evolve shows that she dosnt accept it because she is saying it needs to be changed in the new age coming...
ok to stupid Christiants here is something for you ...see this video `` Dr Bart Ehrman 2/2 `` in other words you can take your bible and put it in your ass...because it is shit...shit shit shit ahahahahaha shit shit shit ...idiots... its a book what has soon no meaning ahahahahahah
Nice job! It's truely saddening to see people like Keith Thruth lie so blatently. His whole thesis about aquarius is actually about himself and the church he promotes maybe?
Nice job! It's truely saddening to see people like Keith Thruth lie so blatently. His whole thesis about aquarius is actually about himself and the church he promotes maybe?
Wrong! She seems to have great disdain for Christian to me. Keith seems to be right on track. Are you trying to convince us that Acharya S. LIKES Christianity and respects those who believe in it? Looks like YOU are the one mixed up.
Oh whatever, man. Seriously. It's like you're going to a great length to split some hairs here. The fact is that Revelations lines up with what KTruth is saying. The mention of Christianity perishing is not just metaphorical and there are other sources to support that. We know that one must take the mark of the beast to buy and sell. So please... KTruth is on point. You're just exposing yourself as a hater and a theosophist sympathizer. C'mon.
They know they cannot convert god loving ppl to their ways.this is we all know they will destroy them.I am no christian & see that! Christ's followers will follow no other way.They will not want them around-plus they are all about spreading the "word".It isn't rocket science folks.Stpo playing into their hands by ridiculing others-spreading hate & negativity for other ppl just because they have a belief system u dont agree with.This is how they empower themsleves & control us.
WAKE up sheeples-notice at the end of film, Canadian law was threatening Keith for his FREEDOM of speech!They DONT have any FREEDOMS in socialist CAN.Thats where we are heading!!THAT in itself should tell you sheep something!!KT is a good guy-the christians r being ridiculed-read ur own comments! God is the way!Im no religion just a good person seeking truth.They infiltrate everything & mix lies in it all.You have 2 b able 2 C through the lies 2 get the truth!!!
May god forgive all of ya...fuick zeitgeist that shit is a bunch of new age crap placed to lead yall sheeple from the truth so go ahead and follow on yall day of truth The Almighty will tell yall that Keith tried to give you the truth how ironic.lol.
keither most deifnatley shared this video (and probably a lot others) with his list of contacts (votebots) to mark the video down. and he calls other people scumbags? ever seen his "zeitgeist debunked/RENAMED-refuted"? it's laughable, all he does is speak and speak and speak and speak and speak twisted fallacies. it doesn't matter whether he's a kid or not, the point is... He's a liar. i mean.. his name's a bit of a give away "keithtruth" :/
I'm back?? what an ego...this guy hates all Buddists, Catholics, and Muslims, I know Muslims that this guy couldn't shine their shoes, dude you are a delusional born again Christian
Keith Truth has said nothing to cause an inquisition, quite the opposite actually. He is warning christians about our coming inquisition by the pagan sheep.
"He is warning christians about our coming inquisition by the pagan sheep."
No. All he's doing is twisting 5 dollar New Age books out of context for his e-begging agenda and chanting the 'Kill All Christians" mantra for the marks that are dumb enough to follow him. He's a heel cutting a promo and blaming pagans for their own demise caused by the very people crying persecution.
Keith TRASH is just another Christian extremist pathological liar for the lord. It's that simple.
He desires a new, modern day Inquisition to rid the world of nonbelievers. His goal is to shore up his faith at all costs - even if it means smearing, libeling & maliciously attacking living breathing people.
Even decent Christians are embarrassed by him and his videos.
keith Trash's BS version is demonstrably false and yes, DECENT Christians who are intelligent enough to know better are embarrassed by him & his videos. The video here you are responding to PROVES he purposely lies & it's just a small sample of what he does on a constant basis. People who constantly lie are pathological liars. Jesus would not approve of the BS by k. trash you shouldn't either. Try to have higher standards for yourself.
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Do some real research & you will see for yourself that KT is a pathological liar. Unless, of course, you just another biased, prejudice Xian out to shore up your faith at all costs even if it means smearing & libeling other people who actually exist just because they don't rigidly adhere to your loony religious views. Then, no, I won't expect you to get it.
If Christ came back today He wouldn't be the Christ keith truth is looking for,he states Christ will condemn all non-Christians, and any non-"born again Christian" is on his way to hell, part of the big conspiracy, Man I went to India last year and was overwhelmed with humility, kindness,love and loyality from "non-born again Christians" actually Catholics, poor, hardworking and honest human beings, they're illuminatti right??? The author of these tapes just seems to be on a witch hunt.
I have read the New testament and I cannot see anything there to suggest that Keith is a liar or a bad person. He is trying to inform people of the spiritual wickedness of this people that they might come to our Lord and saviour - the King of Kings and Lord or Lords - Jesus Christ.
Can you explain to me how Keith is supposed to be an anti-christ?
Is he filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity? No.
I'm sorry but those lttle snippits which just say Jesus is the way or whatever are clearly visible and though they go by quickly.. I already do believe in Jesus as my Saviour..so it doesn't bother me so much. Also, Acharya S is an advocate of the new age movement which is going to eliminate Christianity. Please watch my video on the Club of Rome. The jesuits/illuminati or the synagogue of satan have set up the new one world religion and they have to remove Christianity as their only obstacle.
SHIT! i noticed that too a while ago. listen to the way he phrases things, and speak, and besides that... even twists certain arguments for his own justifications. "christianity", rome still rules, sorry to say.
straining at gnats and swallowing elephants. In the end, the over all forces Keith is exposing is very real, and they are bringing in one world religion under Gnosticism/Theology, a one world Government to go along with it. It is evil and we sit and pick our nose with this crap.
1. To establish a One World Government with a unified church and monetary system under their direction.
2. To bring about the utter destruction of all national identity and national pride.
3. To engineer and bring about the destruction of religion, and more especially, the Christian Religion, with the one exception, their own creation, as mentioned above...
Keith is illustrating this point. Acharya is an anti-christ and you are wrong, I'm afraid.
That reminds of the story of moses when he came down with the ten commandments he saw people were worshipping the golden calf (taurus) and he ordered them to kill theyre selves because they were entering the new age and could not bring the old age with them
hahaha... Perhaps you'd like to read the account for yourself instead of taking other people's account:
The golden calf was an idol to the god "Baal" NOT taurus.
Aaron, Moses' brother was also a priest who was to keep an eye on the Israelites while Moses was away. Aaron makes it all the way to the edges of the Holy Land some 50 years later. I don't see how he, the "leader" of the flock, was ordered to kill themselves.
Truth seekers who don't even do their research. How sad is that?
Or when it says in the Bible loads of times not to worship idols AT ALL... And how it was the fools worshipping the calf that Moses was angry with, because they had been tricked by the same zodiac nonsense that you are suggesting is the real truth.
No we are not entering the age of aquarius...read up on WHO the people that suggest as such are. They are satanists and they channel most of this stuff.
Can you guess who they are contacting when they do this 'channeling'?
Keithttruth, Keithtrutth & I think Keithtruthh (& probably more I'm not aware of) were all accounts created by keith TRASH when his original account was frozen by youtube for violations.
So before you assume anybody needs to lie about KT you may want to check first. He does a fine job of that all on his own - that's what makes him a pathological Liar for the Lord.
KT's gay lover chris white has several accounts too as he admits in 1 of his videos.
Uh the guy that posted this video totally used a comment from Keithttruth, notice the double tt, that is not the same guy, keithtruth has actually complained about this guy in the past. Nice try
Keithtruth is a liar, and he does not use the scripture to support what he says. I've showed him over 50 different scriptures that say we are supposed to keep the laws, statutes, commandments, holy days, and the faith in Jesus. And he says we can do whatever we want, and still get into the kingdom. That is the biggest lie and I'm making a video series right now on Him. I'm going to show people what as big phony he is.
well, ill tell u this because of the qoutes of how christian will fading away and not perish. how can we faded? we know the truth. we will never change to their order and so will many once they see it with their eyes of what the order is really like..
Oh shut up!! no christians are going to be wiped out for gods sake! scuse the pun! :) there will be no removal of millions other than the possiblity of you lot forcabley bringing on the false prophesy of the book you call the bible/revelation..MAN will make that happen NOT god! and its a good excuse for a war!
PLease note that the broader agenda of the new age movemene is absolutly to exterminate Christians as stated clearly in Happy Birthday Planet Earth by Hubbard in which she describes Christians as the regrettable cancer which will have to be cut out of society- lets not be naive here
In addition the whole new age agenda regarding the so called Masters of wisdom ONLY see Christians as the threat- thats because these beings are fallen angels and know their end is near. the Georgia guidestones explain in full the agenda to remove millioms from the world
Hubbard also talks about the "removal" of those in society who refuse to go along with their moevment and will be taken to another planet to live out their lives or "perish"- is not that serious enough for you?
Jeesh, do you guys think you'll all come to some consensus...on youtube?lmao Good luck.
Btw for all you guys putting down Yeshua. Just lay-off.
He's the son God, and loves you all. It's just the mainstream distortion of society, that has tarnished his real message.
There are a lot of 'Christians' in this world, but that's just a label for someone to adhere to...I doubt there are millions of true followers. Don't drink the kool-aid!
put the information war aside for a minute, and just listen to the guy and his voice, and how he twists words and a lot of phrases to make the viewer percieve something in the way he wants them to. i don't know if he's aware of it or not, but it's clear that all he does, and all his video are about supporting.. not truth.. but what he chooses to believe, truth is for the wind in keith's book.
Why all the crap on christainity.What about Islam?Why all this antichristain hate being thrown around.Was Mohammad real?Josephus confirms christ as does the bible.The bible is the BASIS FOR AT LEAST 3 RELIGIONS NOT ONE.
This video exposes keith as the pathological liar he is & he's Xian. There are many other videos addressing Islam. Josephus, the bible does *NOT* confirm squat. Even Xian biblical scholars admit:
"The Gospels are neither histories nor biographies, even within the ancient tolerances for those genres."
- Dr. John Dominic Crossan
"Apart from the New Testament writings ....sources of information about the life and teaching of Jesus are scanty and problematic"
You're right. They attack Christianity because, in essence, they see it as a threat. They can come up with all the lies they want to but the fact that Jesus is God is undeniable. That's why they attack us.
@onecare01 I know your comment is a year old, but if yo do a bit of digging plus looking at scholar stances and actual validity+historical accuracy, you'll see what's wrong with Islam, all in all, Muhammad was a false profit, and I'm not saying this because I dislike Islam or anything of the matter, Muhammad said himself the devil influenced him in revelation before, and Muhammad willfully worshiping the pagan deity of pre Islamic tribes, Hubal. So what does that say about the Quran
@Shadowlooker12 I know Islam is wrong.I said how they ALL seem to cut down christains.In HISTORY you see how the BIBLE was HIDDEN from the PUBLIC.PROTESTANTS WERE right IN condeming ROME,but THEY TO THIS DAY FOLLOW HER by her MANMADE TRADITIONS AND HOLIDAYS.tHIS NEW AGE IS THE SAME AS SATAN TELLING EVE YOU WILL NOT DIE but be like gods.HE LIED FROM THE BEGINING.The new age same difference we will be like gods setting the world stage for deceit.
@Shadowlooker12 If you follow this NEW AGE BULLCRAP you are truely being deceived.These people know WHO THEIR GOD IS do you?.Think about it Satan tells eve you will surely NOT DIE but you will become as god knowing good and evil.Did eve die?did she truely know good and evil?Christ the messiah said seek me and you shall find me.Take heed he not only brings you to the Father but your EYES will be OPENED TO ALL TRUTH.... AMAZING.WHAT GREAT THINGS YOU LEARN
"The guy who walked on water and rose from the dead did not exist.. there are hundreds of jesus now and there was then.. some preach now as did then.. but no jesus rose from the dead or walked on water... stop tricking people into following trhis bullshit"
I am talking about the historicity of Jesus as a regular person divorced from the miraculous
Look MICHAELMEMISBACL i think you are obbessed,and listen i had jesus and the bullshit story of the bible rammed down my throat at school,i persoanlly do NOT beleive ANYTHING re: jesus and i think christians are dangurous,i dont know if you are a christain or not but biblical stoires are fiction and a made up myth,what ever else your waffling on about ,well just carry on,what point are you trying to make? jesus MAY have excisted? ok i give up! your right, he MAY have excisted
I had a desire to be a teacher when I was younger. Any teacher would be obsessed about people who think that encyclopedias cannot be trusted because they are "not evidential." It is almost like a conspiracy theory to say that encyclopedias do not count as legitimate information. Is it that you only said the encyclopedia was not worthy of being used for information because it explicitly contradicted what people like Acharya S. have said about the historical Jesus?
The point is!! Acharya S makes sense!! her arguments are backed up with refs.. She is able to sustain a credible position.. That holds a lot more water than just some quote in a book thats simply going along with an ignorent mainstream position.. Really you are a joke! In fact Acharya S only says that Jesus may or probably didnt exist! her main point is that his story is false!!.. Grow up and stop waisting my time
Guys who think like cattfish, duma, etc. are in the minority of scholary opinion. Counter that or say the opposite of that based on bogus sources (which you will not admit the illegitimacy of) if you want, there is no proof that mainstream scholarship agree with you.
Monority has no validity!! Its was a monority that believed the world was round!. It was a monority that believed in Christ! and still is!! Only 33% of the world believe that Jesus is the mesia.. a minority!! for sure!.. Use valid arguments or fuck off Moron!!
First you say minority has no validity. Then you say nothing mainstream is reputable. So, is the Encyclopedia's point that Jesus existed as a man a minority opinion or a majority opinion?
This line of argument is about the credibility of an encyclopedia. I do not know what is more valid than saying "I think the encyclopedia is a legitimate source on Jesus; it is not Wikipedia; it is a comprehensive set of books that scholarship is poured into by people who know what it takes for information to be admitted into a encyclopedia."
"ask the mainstream historians and they will tell you that Jesus as a man (I am not saying "as a supernatural being") existed. "
so do you believe that "as a supernatual being" jesus did not exist? or are you actually confirming that there is NO EVEIDANCE AT ALL to prove he was super natural?its good that your finally getting there!! wel done! im glad we are finally starting to agree
I cannot believe you bringing up the supernatural Jesus just like the other people I was talking to. Was I talking about what historians say about the supernatural Jesus or about the historical Jesus? Rhetorical question.
"so do you believe that "as a supernatual being" jesus did not exist? or are you actually confirming that there is NO EVEIDANCE AT ALL to prove he was super natural?"
Wow this is no way deals with the issue that I AM confirming by reputable source research, which I clearly said was HISTORICAL Jesus, not mythical Jesus.
It is irrational to say that because a person is not supernatural, then nobody should care whether they existed. What about all the history books about famous people and the authors who cared that they existed?
I have not met anybody who is supernatural. Going by what you said, who cares if all the people I met existed? Who cares if Einstein, Stalin, Tesla, FDR, and Abraham Lincoln existed?
you really are an idiot!! WE care about Einstein , because his history is factual.. Ther is no point in caring about a character that has had lies attached to his name.. because it is those lies that make him notable . nothing else.. No other information exists other than those lies.. so its pointless talking about him
I do not believe Jesus is the one God, I do not believe the Trinity as even a biblically-proven concept, I do not believe that people go to a hell where they spend all eternity. I have my own beliefs. But this is not about beliefs this is about using sources and mainstream information that you should have learned in high school, college, and you know that unless you do not care about sources and respected modern scholarship, which says differently than the Jesus-is-a-myth and did not exist idea.
"so they are not going to bother quoting he DID NOT excist, its bloody obvious"
I quoted a source. It is obvious that an encyclopedia is infinitely more reputable than wikipedia or whatever sources it is that you are using that contradict encyclopedic and mainstream facts about Jesus. Even Webster's New World Book of Facts says that Jesus actually lived in a specific time frame. Quit using your preconceived notions to dismiss facts and realize I do not believe Jesus is God, am I stupid?.
Nothing mainstream is reputable!! nothing!! Mainstream.. is a product of a controlled society.. that has written and more dangerously unwritten rules!! This is what Geroge Orwell had as a note in the cover of his books! to warn people.. and guess what!! publishes removed the warning!! from his books!!
Wait, I read what you said about minority, and that cleared up my wondering of what your point was. Not that I agree with you, but I can answer my own question that I asked you. The question about whether the encyclopedia's position is majority or minority.
Answer: The encyclopedia's position is a majority position.
Your full of shit!! Whos majority opinion?? You know nothing about the politics of that publication.. the bias or anything about it!.. If thats your argument for the existance of a man named Christ who is the basis for the myth of Jesus son of God.. then you are really grabbing at straws..
Mr MICHAELMEMISBACL "encyclopedia britannica" is hardly mainstream evidance,indeed as Mr dumalucky states, you ARE tyring to pull the wool over everyones eyes regarding the unthruths your telling,in fact you are talking utter rubbish,there is NO EVIDANCE for the existance of Jesus other than the mythical stories that were fabricated(thats means made up) in the book you call the bible by a corrupt government 2000 years ago
"encyclopedia britannica" is hardly mainstream evidance
Ask any teacher whether that is true. And if you care about mainstream, ask the mainstream historians and they will tell you that Jesus as a man (I am not saying "as a supernatural being") existed.
" "encyclopedia britannica" is hardly mainstream evidance,"
Than that would be a strike against duma's citation of that source; you are really begging an exception for the crediblility of an encyclopedia, inquire for the mainstream opinion of scholars already, cattfish, duma, and Rinsewell! Cite one scholar or journal or textbook that says "most historians believe that Jesus did not exist." Cite one!
Fact: "The articles in the Britannica are aimed at educated adult readers, and written by a staff of about 100 full-time editors and more than 4,000 expert contributors. It is widely regarded as the most scholarly of encyclopaedias"
If I am telling untruths, I am certainly not lying about Encyclopedia Britannica.
"With few exceptions (such as Robert M. Price), scholars in the fields of biblical studies and history agree that Jesus WAS (emphasis mine) a Jewish teacher from Galilee who was regarded as a healer, was baptized by John the Baptist, was accused of sedition against the Roman Empire, and on the orders of Roman Governor Pontius Pilate was sentenced to death by crucifixion"
dumalucky.... I was an atheist before i read your comments. Now i have converted to orthodox christianity after reading your words haha. seriously dude, you need to chill and meditate or something, you just say the same things over and over again and insult ppl, how is that a good representation of intellectual america? your absolutely pathetic and i hope that you reach the hospital before you hurt yourself, or someone else:)
I am sorry but terms such as an 'intellectual america' are an oxymoron.. in practical terms... Funny thing is.. I know a million times more about meditation than you do.. ha ha..
What does the latest version of Encyclopedia Britannica say about Jesus?
"These independent accounts prove that in ancient times even the opponents of Christianity never doubted the historicity of Jesus, which was disputed for the first time and on inadequate grounds by several authors at the end of the 18th, during the 19th, and at the beginning of the 20th centuries."
THIS IS WHAT IS ACTUALLY SAID IN THE ENCYCLOPEDIA BRITANICA WHEN U TYPE IN 'JESUS' : cut and pasted here!
founder of Christianity, one of the worlds largest religions, and the incarnation of God according to most Christians. His teachings and deeds are recorded in the New Testament, which is essentially a theological document that makes discovery of the historical Jesus difficult.
THIS IS WHAT IS ACTUALLY SAID IN THE ENCYCLOPEDIA BRITANICA WHEN U TYPE IN 'JESUS' : cut and pasted here!
founder of Christianity, one of the worlds largest religions, and the incarnation of God according to most Christians. His teachings and deeds are recorded in the New Testament, which is essentially a theological document that makes discovery of the historical Jesus difficult.
"a theological document that makes discovery of the historical Jesus difficult."
The difficulty is the question of who exactly the historical Jesus can be pieced together to be, not the question of whether he existed; his existence being evidenced by the encyclopedia britannica and mainstream scholarship.
Really you are just pathetic Michaelmemisbacl... we are in the 21st century! and its becoming clear that we have been lied to.. jesus is a myth..The guy who walked on water and rose from the dead did not exist.. there are hundreds of jesus now and there was then.. some preach now as did then.. but no jesus rose from the dead or walked on water... stop tricking people into following trhis bullshit
"The guy who walked on water and rose from the dead did not exist.. there are hundreds of jesus now and there was then.. some preach now as did then.. but no jesus rose from the dead or walked on water... stop tricking people into following trhis bullshit"
I am talking about the historicity of Jesus as a regular person divorced from the miraculous. You have not refuted why the Encyclopedia Britannica is wrong in saying that arguments waged against his historicity were on inadequate grounds.
I saw all three. Am I missing something? All more lies from the pit of hell, like most things and most people today. So, many false prophets and anti-Christs in these days just like the bible predicted. Next time recommend a channel of someone with intellectual integrity, thanks!
OK, how about mine? Right mow I'm in the process of making videos that proove that Mithras, Dionysus, Krishna, Attis, etc... were Pagan Christs, and I have evidence to back my claims up.
Also, please ask Keith this, for I am blocked, if he's so truthful, why does he block?
It would be better to read actual readbooks by accredited non-biased Egyptologists than to make videos based on your own line of thinking. For example, absolutely NO professional Egyptologists adhere to the claim that Jesus and Horus are alike. As for books, I recommend Richard Wilkinson, the current professor of Egyptology at the University of Arizona, and Geraldine Pinch Harris, Ph.D., a retired professor of Egyptology at Oxford.
The allegedly most similar is Mithras, but check this examination (spaces were added to make it more likely to post): h t t p: //christopherbutler (dot) wordpress (dot) com / 2006 / 10 / 07 / jesus-is-not-a-mithras-redux /
I've never heard of a connection between Krishna, a Hindu figure, and Jesus, a monotheistic figure. Seems like a stretch and just a video project to entertain yourself.
Michaelmemisbacl.. You really are just another trickster.. you are dishonest.. a really screwed up guy.. You know that the facts speack for themselves and you quote bogus facts or make weak arguments using minor irrelevant points..
"You know that the facts speack for themselves and you quote bogus facts"
Be specific and refute the argument that mainstream historians believe that a human named Jesus existed (I am not referring to the supernatural Jesus when I am talking about these historians)
There is a key quote from a skeptic/unbeliever that I want to use: "In fairness however, one purported similarity needs to be discredited. Skeptics sometimes cite Kersey Graves in Sixteen Crucified Saviors in asserting that Krishna was a crucified deity. No such event occurred in the Gita or in any recognized Hindu scripture. Given the pronounced syncretic tendency of Hinduism, it is assumed that any odd tales of Krishna's being crucified arose only after the existence of Christian proselytism
First off, Krishna was never crucified, I know that. In my opinion, The Worlds 16 Crucified Saviours is, meh. Good, but sloppy. But he was killed on a tree, and was ressurected.
I took the day off so you can expect a Krishna video from me soon.
I never said Krishna was crucified, I said he was killed on a tree, not crucified. Yes, if Krishna was ever crucified it is a safe bet it was after christianity came around.
The tree thing is a variant of an extra-canonical Hindu tradition which states that Krishna was crucified. According to some traditions, Krishna died on a tree OR was crucified between two thieves.
Consider Alexander the Great. The two earliest biographies of his life were written by Arrian and Plutarch more than 400 years after his death, and yet no historian believes that he did not exist or that the biographies are legend. Why treat Jesus differently? Why do new standards of historical inquiry need to be adopted when it comes to Jesus?
"In SOME traditions he died on a tree" is a claim that was responded to by the paraagraph I gave, Do you expect these people who have been making false claims about Krishna and Jesus to draw the right conclusions or make honest statements?
catfish.. thank egh? God you are here.. really theswe christians are just so dishonest.. its imposiible to have a real debate with them?. They are like a husband who wont admit his wife is having an affair.. even after seeing the pictures
Is MICHAELMEMISBACL dishonest? Hmm. Let's see, he says that Krishna was concieved by Devaki by a bit of Vishnu's semen, I ask for evidenc, it turns out he got the wrong God.
I am a born-again believer. I'm not so much a Keith Truth fan as a Jesus fan. I don't like Zeitgeist and other pro-Zeitgeist people tearing apart and spreading lies about the authenticity of scripture and Jesus being the only way like He said. When you truly know Jesus you know who He is and truth. People showing similarities of all religions might have some valid points. However Christ is who He says He is alone! Similarities are just that! Christ stands alone as Lord!
I don't talk to KeithTruth. I don't know the guy. but, every video of his I've seen point people to Christ and tear apart the new age movement, the nwo and zeitgeist in a accurlate and concise way. Tearing apart lies that take people off course and put people on that broad road that leads to death many are on that Jesus was speaking of!
Here are some of the references corresponding to the essential information:
Raymond E. Brown, The Death of the Messiah: From Gethsemane to the Grave (New York: Doubleday, Anchor Bible Reference Library 1994), p. 964; D. A. Carson, et al., p. 50-56; Shaye J.D. Cohen, From the Maccabees to the Mishnah, Westminster Press, 1987, p. 78, 93, 105, 108; John Dominic Crossan, The Historical Jesus: The Life of a Mediterranean Jewish Peasant, HarperCollins, 1991, p. xi-xiii
there are no non-biblical references to a Jesus by any known historian of the time during and after Jesus's purported advent. "No literate person of his own time mentioned him in any known writing." Eminent Hellenistic Jewish historian and philosopher Philo (20 B.C.E.-50 C.E.), alive at the time makes no mention of him. Nor do any of the some 40 other historians who wrote during the first two centuries of the Common Era. all you will be able to quote is the Book of lies.. the bible!!!
Alex, a great military leader, but normal human, and I'm pretty sure Alex wrote down about his travels, and other things he did.
Jesus, raised the dead, walked on water, caused the Jews to meet on Passover eve, beaten, killed, and ressurected. No records. Who do you think is more interesting and deserves more notice?
your a moron Michaelmemisbacl.. Really face it!!.. Your full of crap because you are afraid to look in the mirror and say'' 'Shit , I have to grow up.. Jesus is fake just like santa' Grow up idiot!
What does the latest version of Encyclopedia Britannica say about Jesus?
"These independent accounts prove that in ancient times even the opponents of Christianity never doubted the historicity of Jesus, which was disputed for the first time and on inadequate grounds by several authors at the end of the 18th, during the 19th, and at the beginning of the 20th centuries."
Cattfish or duma, you may respond to this. But I won't bother you to do it or force you to do it.
To his credit, G.A. Wells has now abandoned the Christ-Myth hypothesis andhas accepted the historicity of Jesus on the basis of the "Q" document. [SeeG.A. Wells, The Jesus Myth (La Salle, Illinois: Open Court, 1999).]
And even his death: "The New England Journal of Medicine article is believed to be the first collaboration between medical scientists and an historian to answer an ancient question about what caused a famous historical figure to die. Dr. Borza says the earliest surviving accounts about Alexander's death available today were written three centuries after he died, so there was not a lot of information to go on."
what is written about Alexander does not fly in the face of science and common sense.. and therfore could be true.. but the jesus rubish demands greater evidence and there simply is none! but there is a lot to say its a lie..
You Moron!! If people were saying and writting 100 years after his death.. that Alexander performed mirracles and rose from the dead and walked on water.. would you believe that ? looks like you would.. You are crazy!! Open your eys and your brain idiot!
"Jesus the son of god.. did not .. sad to say" VS. "With few exceptions (such as Robert M. Price), scholars in the fields of biblical studies and history agree that Jesus WAS a Jewish teacher from Galilee who was regarded as a healer, on the orders of Roman Governor Pontius Pilate was sentenced to death by crucifixion"
One claim has sources, one of which is John Dominic Crossan, The Historical Jesus: The Life of a Mediterranean Jewish Peasant, HarperCollins, 1991, p. xi-xiii
Name any historian at the time of Jesus that mentions him! go on!! name one!! and dont say josephus!! because those short entries in his writtings are now admitted to be forgeries by even Christian Historians!!
""No literate person of his own time mentioned him in any known writing." Eminent Hellenistic Jewish historian and philosopher Philo (20 B.C.E.-50 C.E.)"
This is irrelevant to the sources of Pliny, Tacitus, Suotonius, and the unaddressed concept (by you) that "With few exceptions... scholars in the fields... agree that Jesus WAS a Jewish teacher from Galilee who was regarded as a healer, was baptized by John the Baptist..., and was sentenced to death by crucifixion"
YOU DIRTY TRICKSTER!! Philo, a prolific Jewish writer who lived from 20 BCE to 50 CE, wrote extensively about the political and theological movements throughout the Mediterranean, and his views foreshadowed Christian theology, yet he never once wrote anything about Jesus. Not only this, but he actually wrote about political conflicts between the Jews and Pontius Pilate in Judea COME ON!! QUOTE WHAT PHILO SAID ABOUT JESUS!!
your the one that needs to cheack sources!! you idiot!! because ther is no independant historical evidence of Jesus worth a hoot!! other than the bible which is a crock of shit that contradicts itself.. its concocted as a form of social control!!
you can almost smell the desperation of the deluded. comment pending approval,says it all,in many of there videos, its a case of leave your brain at the church entry door. what a shameless bunch.
kram83au 6 months ago
He is also a coward who cannot stand someone beating him in the argument. He blocked one of my comments on criticizing shepards channel and now I am blocked as well. Only people who cannot refute something they dont like do cowardly things like that and all they do is prove how wrong and afraid they are!
DetoxMansion 6 months ago
Even Jordan Maxwell called Chris White out as a "satanist" and Chris denied it NOT.... It's because ALL these people are in bed with each other. AND I see people talking about "Islam"?.. How come? ALL "religions" are the SAME, in FACT if there were ANY one religion that is MOST "loyal" to THIER "god" that would ne Islam, because they pray to their Allah 5 times a day and the christian walks into a masonic building only 1 time a week, so WHO'S the most loyal? Lol! People cannot see what goes on.
QueenyCameron 9 months ago
KeithLIES is PART of the United Nations and the one''s he based his fabulous production on who are "new Age" as he claims, are WHO he and Chris White are working for. They have used these other people to point in their direction so no one will take a looksie at them. Chris White, connected to Chris Pinto, connected to Alex Jones and WEARECHANGE who promotes Pinto. Keith connected to John Piper, who is connected to Rick Warren who is a MEMBER of the United Nations CFR.. whattayaknow about that!
QueenyCameron 10 months ago
@QueenyCameron Whattayaknow about proof? I mean really, I don't trust anyone 100%, that includes a random commenter, so, if this is true, produce evidence, you have a youtube right? make a video, and put it as a response to this or other videos, don't just come out of know where saying this, it does no justice, and makes it look like your just saying this for your own reasons.
Shadowlooker12 9 months ago
@Shadowlooker12 I DID make a video, it's right on my channel in front and I connected ALL these people together, it was a response to Keef Twoof which HE removed HIS uploads because he CANNOT respond to ME... My video was a response to HIM and instead of responding to mine, he simply removed his original.. And I LMAO!
QueenyCameron 9 months ago
@Shadowlooker12 watch?v=qY_xtGmofRE&feature=channel_video_title
QueenyCameron 9 months ago
now on to more about keith.i questioned his belief (calvinism),i didnt do it in a rude manor just stated what ive read about calvin and keith blocked me from adding comments.isnt that strange?i believe,there is a possibility mr"truth"is part of the same organizations he is exposing.they know there is a hell and want as many "christians"to go there as possible,so calvinism is just another gate to hell.calvin was a brutal tyrant and was known as the protestant pope.
dead300times 10 months ago
@dead300times I don't agree with Calvinism, so called "4 point" or 5 point or ANY Calvinist views, but keiths arguments that he engages in for Christianity are pretty solid and valid, he does thorough research, and does not use Calvinism when it comes to defending Christianity from bs accusations.Calvinism has been refuted by good people and shown to be false teaching, too bad Keith is stuck on it, either A.Because he believes it or B.He's got an agenda.
Shadowlooker12 9 months ago
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keith has been confused in the past,like about what george washington said about the illuminati infultrating.however,these occultists do want to kill off a large part of the population.on the q and a section of shareintl.or maitreya(the person the new agers promote as christ)says when he appears all will be givin a choice to either follow him into the new age or be annihilated.ted turner,bill gates and alot of others promote population reduction.they should lead by example.
dead300times 10 months ago
keith has been confused in the past,like about what george washington said about the illuminati infultrating.however,these occultists do want to kill off a large part of the population.on the q and a section of shareintl.or maitreya(the person the new agers promote as christ)says when he appears all will be givin a choice to either follow him into the new age or be annihilated.ted turner,bill gates and alot of others promote population reduction.they should lead by example.
dead300times 10 months ago
Keith Truth is the real deal!. You can flip and twist carpenters all you want. You're a Disgrace
EddieinNy 11 months ago
Keith Truth is the real deal!. You can flip and twist carpenters all you want. You're a Disgrace
EddieinNy 11 months ago
Are you serious you totally only put parts in there too make KTruth look like a lair it's sad that so many people can't accept the truth, Even when they are blessed enough too have a person go out of the way too tell them. I'll pray for you.
TravisLFTU 1 year ago
omg he said filthy scum bag how unholy.
who gives a fuck this is the dumbest video ever and yes acharaya is against christian religion. How? Well it goes much further in depth than posting one paragraph she quoted from edward carpenter, but by saying christianity needs to change in order to evolve shows that she dosnt accept it because she is saying it needs to be changed in the new age coming...
keith is tha man
MccMac 1 year ago
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ok to stupid Christiants here is something for you ...see this video `` Dr Bart Ehrman 2/2 `` in other words you can take your bible and put it in your ass...because it is shit...shit shit shit ahahahahaha shit shit shit ...idiots... its a book what has soon no meaning ahahahahahah
thelion2430 1 year ago
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Nice job! It's truely saddening to see people like Keith Thruth lie so blatently. His whole thesis about aquarius is actually about himself and the church he promotes maybe?
wateenkutnaam 1 year ago
Nice job! It's truely saddening to see people like Keith Thruth lie so blatently. His whole thesis about aquarius is actually about himself and the church he promotes maybe?
wateenkutnaam 1 year ago
Wrong! She seems to have great disdain for Christian to me. Keith seems to be right on track. Are you trying to convince us that Acharya S. LIKES Christianity and respects those who believe in it? Looks like YOU are the one mixed up.
stajantho 1 year ago
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Lazarusrizing 1 year ago
Oh whatever, man. Seriously. It's like you're going to a great length to split some hairs here. The fact is that Revelations lines up with what KTruth is saying. The mention of Christianity perishing is not just metaphorical and there are other sources to support that. We know that one must take the mark of the beast to buy and sell. So please... KTruth is on point. You're just exposing yourself as a hater and a theosophist sympathizer. C'mon.
Lazarusrizing 1 year ago
They know they cannot convert god loving ppl to their ways.this is we all know they will destroy them.I am no christian & see that! Christ's followers will follow no other way.They will not want them around-plus they are all about spreading the "word".It isn't rocket science folks.Stpo playing into their hands by ridiculing others-spreading hate & negativity for other ppl just because they have a belief system u dont agree with.This is how they empower themsleves & control us.
crowbar0404 1 year ago
WAKE up sheeples-notice at the end of film, Canadian law was threatening Keith for his FREEDOM of speech!They DONT have any FREEDOMS in socialist CAN.Thats where we are heading!!THAT in itself should tell you sheep something!!KT is a good guy-the christians r being ridiculed-read ur own comments! God is the way!Im no religion just a good person seeking truth.They infiltrate everything & mix lies in it all.You have 2 b able 2 C through the lies 2 get the truth!!!
crowbar0404 1 year ago
May god forgive all of ya...fuick zeitgeist that shit is a bunch of new age crap placed to lead yall sheeple from the truth so go ahead and follow on yall day of truth The Almighty will tell yall that Keith tried to give you the truth how ironic.lol.
mr44doom 1 year ago
keither most deifnatley shared this video (and probably a lot others) with his list of contacts (votebots) to mark the video down. and he calls other people scumbags? ever seen his "zeitgeist debunked/RENAMED-refuted"? it's laughable, all he does is speak and speak and speak and speak and speak twisted fallacies. it doesn't matter whether he's a kid or not, the point is... He's a liar. i mean.. his name's a bit of a give away "keithtruth" :/
Constavlos 1 year ago
shut the fuck up keith liar!
micap20078 1 year ago
you shut the fuck up micabitch
TheVickrey 1 year ago
I'm back?? what an ego...this guy hates all Buddists, Catholics, and Muslims, I know Muslims that this guy couldn't shine their shoes, dude you are a delusional born again Christian
THEOPTIA 2 years ago
Keith Truth has said nothing to cause an inquisition, quite the opposite actually. He is warning christians about our coming inquisition by the pagan sheep.
Sterlacea 2 years ago
"He is warning christians about our coming inquisition by the pagan sheep."
No. All he's doing is twisting 5 dollar New Age books out of context for his e-begging agenda and chanting the 'Kill All Christians" mantra for the marks that are dumb enough to follow him. He's a heel cutting a promo and blaming pagans for their own demise caused by the very people crying persecution.
Homer177 2 years ago
Keith truth blocked me....much like his brain blocks reality.
blaziermissy 2 years ago
Keith Truth reminds me of the ignorant mindset of those in the "witch burning" era:
Rally the ignorant, for we shall do inhumane deeds in the name of "holy righteousness."
Insanity prevails.
Fortunately, not for all.
blaziermissy 2 years ago
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blaziermissy 2 years ago
Completely writing him off as nothing but a pathological liar is a bit over the top.
Rob187ok 2 years ago
Keith TRASH is just another Christian extremist pathological liar for the lord. It's that simple.
He desires a new, modern day Inquisition to rid the world of nonbelievers. His goal is to shore up his faith at all costs - even if it means smearing, libeling & maliciously attacking living breathing people.
Even decent Christians are embarrassed by him and his videos.
Hercules2345 2 years ago
@Hercules2345 I'm not embarrassed, as a Christian I like how Keith Truth is putting the real truth out there.
mitzydawn 2 years ago
keith Trash's BS version is demonstrably false and yes, DECENT Christians who are intelligent enough to know better are embarrassed by him & his videos. The video here you are responding to PROVES he purposely lies & it's just a small sample of what he does on a constant basis. People who constantly lie are pathological liars. Jesus would not approve of the BS by k. trash you shouldn't either. Try to have higher standards for yourself.
Hercules2345 2 years ago
@Hercules2345....DECENT Christians see right through you and your "new age" propaganda.
mitzydawn 2 years ago
Nice attempt at KT style BS.
freethoughtnation. com /forums/viewtopic. php?f=19&t=2622&start=60
Do some real research & you will see for yourself that KT is a pathological liar. Unless, of course, you just another biased, prejudice Xian out to shore up your faith at all costs even if it means smearing & libeling other people who actually exist just because they don't rigidly adhere to your loony religious views. Then, no, I won't expect you to get it.
Hercules2345 2 years ago
If Christ came back today He wouldn't be the Christ keith truth is looking for,he states Christ will condemn all non-Christians, and any non-"born again Christian" is on his way to hell, part of the big conspiracy, Man I went to India last year and was overwhelmed with humility, kindness,love and loyality from "non-born again Christians" actually Catholics, poor, hardworking and honest human beings, they're illuminatti right??? The author of these tapes just seems to be on a witch hunt.
THEOPTIA 2 years ago
I have read the New testament and I cannot see anything there to suggest that Keith is a liar or a bad person. He is trying to inform people of the spiritual wickedness of this people that they might come to our Lord and saviour - the King of Kings and Lord or Lords - Jesus Christ.
Can you explain to me how Keith is supposed to be an anti-christ?
Is he filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity? No.
5to22a 2 years ago 3
His Videos are filled with sub-liminals, wake up dude, seriously
THEOPTIA 2 years ago
I'm sorry but those lttle snippits which just say Jesus is the way or whatever are clearly visible and though they go by quickly.. I already do believe in Jesus as my Saviour..so it doesn't bother me so much. Also, Acharya S is an advocate of the new age movement which is going to eliminate Christianity. Please watch my video on the Club of Rome. The jesuits/illuminati or the synagogue of satan have set up the new one world religion and they have to remove Christianity as their only obstacle.
5to22a 2 years ago
@THEOPTIA
SHIT! i noticed that too a while ago. listen to the way he phrases things, and speak, and besides that... even twists certain arguments for his own justifications. "christianity", rome still rules, sorry to say.
Constavlos 1 year ago
straining at gnats and swallowing elephants. In the end, the over all forces Keith is exposing is very real, and they are bringing in one world religion under Gnosticism/Theology, a one world Government to go along with it. It is evil and we sit and pick our nose with this crap.
dankeewolnir4042 2 years ago
21 Goals of The Committee of 300
1. To establish a One World Government with a unified church and monetary system under their direction.
2. To bring about the utter destruction of all national identity and national pride.
3. To engineer and bring about the destruction of religion, and more especially, the Christian Religion, with the one exception, their own creation, as mentioned above...
Keith is illustrating this point. Acharya is an anti-christ and you are wrong, I'm afraid.
God bless anyway
5to22a 2 years ago
That reminds of the story of moses when he came down with the ten commandments he saw people were worshipping the golden calf (taurus) and he ordered them to kill theyre selves because they were entering the new age and could not bring the old age with them
LAMELFERRIERA 2 years ago
hahaha... Perhaps you'd like to read the account for yourself instead of taking other people's account:
The golden calf was an idol to the god "Baal" NOT taurus.
Aaron, Moses' brother was also a priest who was to keep an eye on the Israelites while Moses was away. Aaron makes it all the way to the edges of the Holy Land some 50 years later. I don't see how he, the "leader" of the flock, was ordered to kill themselves.
Truth seekers who don't even do their research. How sad is that?
Etherdancer 2 years ago 3
Or when it says in the Bible loads of times not to worship idols AT ALL... And how it was the fools worshipping the calf that Moses was angry with, because they had been tricked by the same zodiac nonsense that you are suggesting is the real truth.
No we are not entering the age of aquarius...read up on WHO the people that suggest as such are. They are satanists and they channel most of this stuff.
Can you guess who they are contacting when they do this 'channeling'?
Ask Jesus to help you.
5to22a 2 years ago
she didn't say WILL perish . . she said it MUST perish . . . and the winner KEITH TRUTH
dzheath 2 years ago 3
Great to see Keith refuting the lies and deception of the new age luciferian schema. Keep up the good work buddy.
It's only natural to be attacked by those who hate the truth.
Lentenlands 2 years ago
I totally agree. Keep it up Keith, your videos are brilliant!
strongbowist 2 years ago
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whitedragonawa 2 years ago
So you're one of those who prefers how things are said instead of what is being said. Your words are an embarrassment.
God loves you, friend. Just because you are a child in his eyes, doesn't mean you have to be immature.
5to22a 2 years ago
Keithttruth, Keithtrutth & I think Keithtruthh (& probably more I'm not aware of) were all accounts created by keith TRASH when his original account was frozen by youtube for violations.
So before you assume anybody needs to lie about KT you may want to check first. He does a fine job of that all on his own - that's what makes him a pathological Liar for the Lord.
KT's gay lover chris white has several accounts too as he admits in 1 of his videos.
Hercules2345 2 years ago
In your vid, the user quoted is "keithtrutth"
thats not KeithTruth who you are making him out to be.
christianftwyeahlol 2 years ago
KeithTruth created the keithtrutth account. See his video "I'm back"
spaceagebachelor 2 years ago
new age propaganda
nothing new
stupaod 2 years ago
Uh the guy that posted this video totally used a comment from Keithttruth, notice the double tt, that is not the same guy, keithtruth has actually complained about this guy in the past. Nice try
travett1001 2 years ago 2
I noticed that the screen name of the comments shown had all lowercase letters, while Mr. Truth's screen name is: KeithTruth.
tomopotamus 2 years ago
Good call, yeah it's kind of sad the lengths people will go to in order to discredit someone they've never met before.
travett1001 2 years ago
KeithTruth created the keithtrutth account. See his video "I'm back"
spaceagebachelor 2 years ago
@travett1001
Keithtruth is a liar, and he does not use the scripture to support what he says. I've showed him over 50 different scriptures that say we are supposed to keep the laws, statutes, commandments, holy days, and the faith in Jesus. And he says we can do whatever we want, and still get into the kingdom. That is the biggest lie and I'm making a video series right now on Him. I'm going to show people what as big phony he is.
TheIsraelite7777 8 months ago
well, ill tell u this because of the qoutes of how christian will fading away and not perish. how can we faded? we know the truth. we will never change to their order and so will many once they see it with their eyes of what the order is really like..
chouavue2 2 years ago
Oh shut up!! no christians are going to be wiped out for gods sake! scuse the pun! :) there will be no removal of millions other than the possiblity of you lot forcabley bringing on the false prophesy of the book you call the bible/revelation..MAN will make that happen NOT god! and its a good excuse for a war!
TheRinsewell 2 years ago
PLease note that the broader agenda of the new age movemene is absolutly to exterminate Christians as stated clearly in Happy Birthday Planet Earth by Hubbard in which she describes Christians as the regrettable cancer which will have to be cut out of society- lets not be naive here
pianohbc 2 years ago
In addition the whole new age agenda regarding the so called Masters of wisdom ONLY see Christians as the threat- thats because these beings are fallen angels and know their end is near. the Georgia guidestones explain in full the agenda to remove millioms from the world
pianohbc 2 years ago
Hubbard also talks about the "removal" of those in society who refuse to go along with their moevment and will be taken to another planet to live out their lives or "perish"- is not that serious enough for you?
pianohbc 2 years ago
Jeesh, do you guys think you'll all come to some consensus...on youtube?lmao Good luck.
Btw for all you guys putting down Yeshua. Just lay-off.
He's the son God, and loves you all. It's just the mainstream distortion of society, that has tarnished his real message.
There are a lot of 'Christians' in this world, but that's just a label for someone to adhere to...I doubt there are millions of true followers. Don't drink the kool-aid!
LogansRunning 2 years ago 4
Where's the proof he's a liar?
Camel76 2 years ago 12
exactly what ive asked every zeitgesist "movement" advocator....still no answer
McClinchey09 2 years ago
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@Camel76:
"Where's the proof he's a liar?"
have you not seen Zeitgeist Refuted/Debunked?
put the information war aside for a minute, and just listen to the guy and his voice, and how he twists words and a lot of phrases to make the viewer percieve something in the way he wants them to. i don't know if he's aware of it or not, but it's clear that all he does, and all his video are about supporting.. not truth.. but what he chooses to believe, truth is for the wind in keith's book.
Constavlos 1 year ago
Why all the crap on christainity.What about Islam?Why all this antichristain hate being thrown around.Was Mohammad real?Josephus confirms christ as does the bible.The bible is the BASIS FOR AT LEAST 3 RELIGIONS NOT ONE.
onecare01 2 years ago 8
This video exposes keith as the pathological liar he is & he's Xian. There are many other videos addressing Islam. Josephus, the bible does *NOT* confirm squat. Even Xian biblical scholars admit:
"The Gospels are neither histories nor biographies, even within the ancient tolerances for those genres."
- Dr. John Dominic Crossan
"Apart from the New Testament writings ....sources of information about the life and teaching of Jesus are scanty and problematic"
- F.F. Bruce
Hercules2345 2 years ago
You're right. They attack Christianity because, in essence, they see it as a threat. They can come up with all the lies they want to but the fact that Jesus is God is undeniable. That's why they attack us.
cfdp529 2 years ago 3
@onecare01 I know your comment is a year old, but if yo do a bit of digging plus looking at scholar stances and actual validity+historical accuracy, you'll see what's wrong with Islam, all in all, Muhammad was a false profit, and I'm not saying this because I dislike Islam or anything of the matter, Muhammad said himself the devil influenced him in revelation before, and Muhammad willfully worshiping the pagan deity of pre Islamic tribes, Hubal. So what does that say about the Quran
Shadowlooker12 9 months ago
@Shadowlooker12 I know Islam is wrong.I said how they ALL seem to cut down christains.In HISTORY you see how the BIBLE was HIDDEN from the PUBLIC.PROTESTANTS WERE right IN condeming ROME,but THEY TO THIS DAY FOLLOW HER by her MANMADE TRADITIONS AND HOLIDAYS.tHIS NEW AGE IS THE SAME AS SATAN TELLING EVE YOU WILL NOT DIE but be like gods.HE LIED FROM THE BEGINING.The new age same difference we will be like gods setting the world stage for deceit.
onecare01 9 months ago
@Shadowlooker12 If you follow this NEW AGE BULLCRAP you are truely being deceived.These people know WHO THEIR GOD IS do you?.Think about it Satan tells eve you will surely NOT DIE but you will become as god knowing good and evil.Did eve die?did she truely know good and evil?Christ the messiah said seek me and you shall find me.Take heed he not only brings you to the Father but your EYES will be OPENED TO ALL TRUTH.... AMAZING.WHAT GREAT THINGS YOU LEARN
onecare01 9 months ago
"The guy who walked on water and rose from the dead did not exist.. there are hundreds of jesus now and there was then.. some preach now as did then.. but no jesus rose from the dead or walked on water... stop tricking people into following trhis bullshit"
I am talking about the historicity of Jesus as a regular person divorced from the miraculous
dumalucky 2 years ago
What tricks am I using to prove that Jesus walked on water and rose from the dead? I am talking about the existence of Jesus not any feat of his.
MICHAELMEMISBACL 2 years ago
Look MICHAELMEMISBACL i think you are obbessed,and listen i had jesus and the bullshit story of the bible rammed down my throat at school,i persoanlly do NOT beleive ANYTHING re: jesus and i think christians are dangurous,i dont know if you are a christain or not but biblical stoires are fiction and a made up myth,what ever else your waffling on about ,well just carry on,what point are you trying to make? jesus MAY have excisted? ok i give up! your right, he MAY have excisted
TheRinsewell 2 years ago
"what point are you trying to make?"
The same point that the encyclopedia makes. Is that so hard to believe?
MICHAELMEMISBACL 2 years ago
"i think you are obbessed"
I had a desire to be a teacher when I was younger. Any teacher would be obsessed about people who think that encyclopedias cannot be trusted because they are "not evidential." It is almost like a conspiracy theory to say that encyclopedias do not count as legitimate information. Is it that you only said the encyclopedia was not worthy of being used for information because it explicitly contradicted what people like Acharya S. have said about the historical Jesus?
MICHAELMEMISBACL 2 years ago
The point is!! Acharya S makes sense!! her arguments are backed up with refs.. She is able to sustain a credible position.. That holds a lot more water than just some quote in a book thats simply going along with an ignorent mainstream position.. Really you are a joke! In fact Acharya S only says that Jesus may or probably didnt exist! her main point is that his story is false!!.. Grow up and stop waisting my time
dumalucky 2 years ago
Guys who think like cattfish, duma, etc. are in the minority of scholary opinion. Counter that or say the opposite of that based on bogus sources (which you will not admit the illegitimacy of) if you want, there is no proof that mainstream scholarship agree with you.
MICHAELMEMISBACL 2 years ago
Monority has no validity!! Its was a monority that believed the world was round!. It was a monority that believed in Christ! and still is!! Only 33% of the world believe that Jesus is the mesia.. a minority!! for sure!.. Use valid arguments or fuck off Moron!!
dumalucky 2 years ago
First you say minority has no validity. Then you say nothing mainstream is reputable. So, is the Encyclopedia's point that Jesus existed as a man a minority opinion or a majority opinion?
MICHAELMEMISBACL 2 years ago
"Use valid arguments"
This line of argument is about the credibility of an encyclopedia. I do not know what is more valid than saying "I think the encyclopedia is a legitimate source on Jesus; it is not Wikipedia; it is a comprehensive set of books that scholarship is poured into by people who know what it takes for information to be admitted into a encyclopedia."
MICHAELMEMISBACL 2 years ago
I am unitarian (and in some ways I am not) so do not come up with the argument that I will believe what other Christians tell me.
MICHAELMEMISBACL 2 years ago
"ask the mainstream historians and they will tell you that Jesus as a man (I am not saying "as a supernatural being") existed. "
so do you believe that "as a supernatual being" jesus did not exist? or are you actually confirming that there is NO EVEIDANCE AT ALL to prove he was super natural?its good that your finally getting there!! wel done! im glad we are finally starting to agree
TheRinsewell 2 years ago
We agree that if one asks mainstream historians if Jesus as a man existed, they would say yes, right?
MICHAELMEMISBACL 2 years ago
I cannot believe you bringing up the supernatural Jesus just like the other people I was talking to. Was I talking about what historians say about the supernatural Jesus or about the historical Jesus? Rhetorical question.
MICHAELMEMISBACL 2 years ago
"so do you believe that "as a supernatual being" jesus did not exist? or are you actually confirming that there is NO EVEIDANCE AT ALL to prove he was super natural?"
Wow this is no way deals with the issue that I AM confirming by reputable source research, which I clearly said was HISTORICAL Jesus, not mythical Jesus.
MICHAELMEMISBACL 2 years ago
"are you actually confirming that there is NO EVEIDANCE AT ALL to prove he was super natural?"
I was not dealing with evidence for or against the idea of his supernatural nature.
MICHAELMEMISBACL 2 years ago
If Jesus was not supernatural.. who gives a fuck if he existed or not? The point is.. Jesus son of God is fake!!
dumalucky 2 years ago
It is irrational to say that because a person is not supernatural, then nobody should care whether they existed. What about all the history books about famous people and the authors who cared that they existed?
I have not met anybody who is supernatural. Going by what you said, who cares if all the people I met existed? Who cares if Einstein, Stalin, Tesla, FDR, and Abraham Lincoln existed?
MICHAELMEMISBACL 2 years ago
you really are an idiot!! WE care about Einstein , because his history is factual.. Ther is no point in caring about a character that has had lies attached to his name.. because it is those lies that make him notable . nothing else.. No other information exists other than those lies.. so its pointless talking about him
dumalucky 2 years ago
its good that your finally getting there!!
Where am I getting? Sarcastic snake.
MICHAELMEMISBACL 2 years ago
I do not believe Jesus is the one God, I do not believe the Trinity as even a biblically-proven concept, I do not believe that people go to a hell where they spend all eternity. I have my own beliefs. But this is not about beliefs this is about using sources and mainstream information that you should have learned in high school, college, and you know that unless you do not care about sources and respected modern scholarship, which says differently than the Jesus-is-a-myth and did not exist idea.
MICHAELMEMISBACL 2 years ago
MICHAELMEMISBACL:Cite one scholar or journal or textbook that says "most historians believe that Jesus DID exist. Cite one!
most historians in fact did NOT write about jesus so they are not going to bother quoting he DID NOT excist, its bloody obvious
TheRinsewell 2 years ago
I was talking about historians that study the historicity of Jesus, of course.
MICHAELMEMISBACL 2 years ago
I was trying to get you to admit that there repeatedly are references to the mainstream idea that Jesus was a person.
Here is another way for me to make my point. Cite one journal or textbook that says "most historians do NOT believe that Jesus existed."
MICHAELMEMISBACL 2 years ago
"so they are not going to bother quoting he DID NOT excist, its bloody obvious"
I quoted a source. It is obvious that an encyclopedia is infinitely more reputable than wikipedia or whatever sources it is that you are using that contradict encyclopedic and mainstream facts about Jesus. Even Webster's New World Book of Facts says that Jesus actually lived in a specific time frame. Quit using your preconceived notions to dismiss facts and realize I do not believe Jesus is God, am I stupid?.
MICHAELMEMISBACL 2 years ago
Nothing mainstream is reputable!! nothing!! Mainstream.. is a product of a controlled society.. that has written and more dangerously unwritten rules!! This is what Geroge Orwell had as a note in the cover of his books! to warn people.. and guess what!! publishes removed the warning!! from his books!!
dumalucky 2 years ago
"Nothing mainstream is reputable!! nothing!!"
There is nothing dangerous about saying someone existed. What about Buddha? Did he exist?
MICHAELMEMISBACL 2 years ago
The only thing irrational is your stupid arguments..
dumalucky 2 years ago
Wait, I read what you said about minority, and that cleared up my wondering of what your point was. Not that I agree with you, but I can answer my own question that I asked you. The question about whether the encyclopedia's position is majority or minority.
Answer: The encyclopedia's position is a majority position.
MICHAELMEMISBACL 2 years ago
Your full of shit!! Whos majority opinion?? You know nothing about the politics of that publication.. the bias or anything about it!.. If thats your argument for the existance of a man named Christ who is the basis for the myth of Jesus son of God.. then you are really grabbing at straws..
dumalucky 2 years ago
Mr MICHAELMEMISBACL "encyclopedia britannica" is hardly mainstream evidance,indeed as Mr dumalucky states, you ARE tyring to pull the wool over everyones eyes regarding the unthruths your telling,in fact you are talking utter rubbish,there is NO EVIDANCE for the existance of Jesus other than the mythical stories that were fabricated(thats means made up) in the book you call the bible by a corrupt government 2000 years ago
TheRinsewell 2 years ago
"encyclopedia britannica" is hardly mainstream evidance
Ask any teacher whether that is true. And if you care about mainstream, ask the mainstream historians and they will tell you that Jesus as a man (I am not saying "as a supernatural being") existed.
MICHAELMEMISBACL 2 years ago
" "encyclopedia britannica" is hardly mainstream evidance"
I cannot believe someone would say this. Nobody disputes encyclopedias.
MICHAELMEMISBACL 2 years ago
" "encyclopedia britannica" is hardly mainstream evidance"
The funny thing is; is wondered if someone would be daft or ignorant enough to say something like this.
MICHAELMEMISBACL 2 years ago
" "encyclopedia britannica" is hardly mainstream evidance,"
Than that would be a strike against duma's citation of that source; you are really begging an exception for the crediblility of an encyclopedia, inquire for the mainstream opinion of scholars already, cattfish, duma, and Rinsewell! Cite one scholar or journal or textbook that says "most historians believe that Jesus did not exist." Cite one!
MICHAELMEMISBACL 2 years ago
Fact: "The articles in the Britannica are aimed at educated adult readers, and written by a staff of about 100 full-time editors and more than 4,000 expert contributors. It is widely regarded as the most scholarly of encyclopaedias"
If I am telling untruths, I am certainly not lying about Encyclopedia Britannica.
MICHAELMEMISBACL 2 years ago
"With few exceptions (such as Robert M. Price), scholars in the fields of biblical studies and history agree that Jesus WAS (emphasis mine) a Jewish teacher from Galilee who was regarded as a healer, was baptized by John the Baptist, was accused of sedition against the Roman Empire, and on the orders of Roman Governor Pontius Pilate was sentenced to death by crucifixion"
MICHAELMEMISBACL 2 years ago
dumalucky.... I was an atheist before i read your comments. Now i have converted to orthodox christianity after reading your words haha. seriously dude, you need to chill and meditate or something, you just say the same things over and over again and insult ppl, how is that a good representation of intellectual america? your absolutely pathetic and i hope that you reach the hospital before you hurt yourself, or someone else:)
mardok1010 2 years ago
I am sorry but terms such as an 'intellectual america' are an oxymoron.. in practical terms... Funny thing is.. I know a million times more about meditation than you do.. ha ha..
dumalucky 2 years ago
What does the latest version of Encyclopedia Britannica say about Jesus?
"These independent accounts prove that in ancient times even the opponents of Christianity never doubted the historicity of Jesus, which was disputed for the first time and on inadequate grounds by several authors at the end of the 18th, during the 19th, and at the beginning of the 20th centuries."
MICHAELMEMISBACL 2 years ago
Source: latest version of Encyclopedia Britannica Macropædia, Vol. 10, p. 145
MICHAELMEMISBACL 2 years ago
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THIS IS WHAT IS ACTUALLY SAID IN THE ENCYCLOPEDIA BRITANICA WHEN U TYPE IN 'JESUS' : cut and pasted here!
founder of Christianity, one of the worlds largest religions, and the incarnation of God according to most Christians. His teachings and deeds are recorded in the New Testament, which is essentially a theological document that makes discovery of the historical Jesus difficult.
dumalucky 2 years ago
How does what you quote refute the fact that the Encyclopedia actually says that Jesus existed and the arguments against that are inadequate?
MICHAELMEMISBACL 2 years ago
Read the Encyclopedia to find out whether it says Jesus existed.
MICHAELMEMISBACL 2 years ago
THIS IS WHAT IS ACTUALLY SAID IN THE ENCYCLOPEDIA BRITANICA WHEN U TYPE IN 'JESUS' : cut and pasted here!
founder of Christianity, one of the worlds largest religions, and the incarnation of God according to most Christians. His teachings and deeds are recorded in the New Testament, which is essentially a theological document that makes discovery of the historical Jesus difficult.
dumalucky 2 years ago
I have never read anywhere the claim that most historians believe he did not exist. I've read that mainstream historians say that he existed.
MICHAELMEMISBACL 2 years ago
"a theological document that makes discovery of the historical Jesus difficult."
The difficulty is the question of who exactly the historical Jesus can be pieced together to be, not the question of whether he existed; his existence being evidenced by the encyclopedia britannica and mainstream scholarship.
MICHAELMEMISBACL 2 years ago
Really you are just pathetic Michaelmemisbacl... we are in the 21st century! and its becoming clear that we have been lied to.. jesus is a myth..The guy who walked on water and rose from the dead did not exist.. there are hundreds of jesus now and there was then.. some preach now as did then.. but no jesus rose from the dead or walked on water... stop tricking people into following trhis bullshit
dumalucky 2 years ago
"The guy who walked on water and rose from the dead did not exist.. there are hundreds of jesus now and there was then.. some preach now as did then.. but no jesus rose from the dead or walked on water... stop tricking people into following trhis bullshit"
I am talking about the historicity of Jesus as a regular person divorced from the miraculous. You have not refuted why the Encyclopedia Britannica is wrong in saying that arguments waged against his historicity were on inadequate grounds.
MICHAELMEMISBACL 2 years ago
It's pretty sad you want to attack someone with courage to speak truth and expose darkness. It just shows who you serve!
greg8998 2 years ago
You talking about Keith? Ha. Please watch some of dudekin's, ChelevSaRa's, and voiceofreason467's videos.
1cattfish 2 years ago
I saw all three. Am I missing something? All more lies from the pit of hell, like most things and most people today. So, many false prophets and anti-Christs in these days just like the bible predicted. Next time recommend a channel of someone with intellectual integrity, thanks!
greg8998 2 years ago
OK, how about mine? Right mow I'm in the process of making videos that proove that Mithras, Dionysus, Krishna, Attis, etc... were Pagan Christs, and I have evidence to back my claims up.
Also, please ask Keith this, for I am blocked, if he's so truthful, why does he block?
1cattfish 2 years ago
It would be better to read actual readbooks by accredited non-biased Egyptologists than to make videos based on your own line of thinking. For example, absolutely NO professional Egyptologists adhere to the claim that Jesus and Horus are alike. As for books, I recommend Richard Wilkinson, the current professor of Egyptology at the University of Arizona, and Geraldine Pinch Harris, Ph.D., a retired professor of Egyptology at Oxford.
MICHAELMEMISBACL 2 years ago
The allegedly most similar is Mithras, but check this examination (spaces were added to make it more likely to post): h t t p: //christopherbutler (dot) wordpress (dot) com / 2006 / 10 / 07 / jesus-is-not-a-mithras-redux /
MICHAELMEMISBACL 2 years ago
"Krishna"
I've never heard of a connection between Krishna, a Hindu figure, and Jesus, a monotheistic figure. Seems like a stretch and just a video project to entertain yourself.
MICHAELMEMISBACL 2 years ago
Keep an eye out for my Krishna video later today. I had my jaw open while I was reading on Krishna.
1cattfish 2 years ago
Michaelmemisbacl.. You really are just another trickster.. you are dishonest.. a really screwed up guy.. You know that the facts speack for themselves and you quote bogus facts or make weak arguments using minor irrelevant points..
dumalucky 2 years ago
"You know that the facts speack for themselves and you quote bogus facts"
Be specific and refute the argument that mainstream historians believe that a human named Jesus existed (I am not referring to the supernatural Jesus when I am talking about these historians)
MICHAELMEMISBACL 2 years ago
There is a key quote from a skeptic/unbeliever that I want to use: "In fairness however, one purported similarity needs to be discredited. Skeptics sometimes cite Kersey Graves in Sixteen Crucified Saviors in asserting that Krishna was a crucified deity. No such event occurred in the Gita or in any recognized Hindu scripture. Given the pronounced syncretic tendency of Hinduism, it is assumed that any odd tales of Krishna's being crucified arose only after the existence of Christian proselytism
MICHAELMEMISBACL 2 years ago
First off, Krishna was never crucified, I know that. In my opinion, The Worlds 16 Crucified Saviours is, meh. Good, but sloppy. But he was killed on a tree, and was ressurected.
I took the day off so you can expect a Krishna video from me soon.
1cattfish 2 years ago
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MICHAELMEMISBACL 2 years ago
I never said Krishna was crucified, I said he was killed on a tree, not crucified. Yes, if Krishna was ever crucified it is a safe bet it was after christianity came around.
1cattfish 2 years ago
The tree thing is a variant of an extra-canonical Hindu tradition which states that Krishna was crucified. According to some traditions, Krishna died on a tree OR was crucified between two thieves.
MICHAELMEMISBACL 2 years ago
My Krishna video is up now.
1cattfish 2 years ago
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Consider Alexander the Great. The two earliest biographies of his life were written by Arrian and Plutarch more than 400 years after his death, and yet no historian believes that he did not exist or that the biographies are legend. Why treat Jesus differently? Why do new standards of historical inquiry need to be adopted when it comes to Jesus?
MICHAELMEMISBACL 2 years ago
"In SOME traditions he died on a tree" is a claim that was responded to by the paraagraph I gave, Do you expect these people who have been making false claims about Krishna and Jesus to draw the right conclusions or make honest statements?
MICHAELMEMISBACL 2 years ago
catfish.. thank egh? God you are here.. really theswe christians are just so dishonest.. its imposiible to have a real debate with them?. They are like a husband who wont admit his wife is having an affair.. even after seeing the pictures
dumalucky 2 years ago
"really theswe christians are just so dishonest"
What dishonesty did I engage in?
I am actually having a civil debate with catfish, see his Krishna video.
MICHAELMEMISBACL 2 years ago
Why don't you ask catfish about whether he thinks I am dishonest? In fact, ask him to tell me himself if he thinks I am dishonest.
MICHAELMEMISBACL 2 years ago
Is MICHAELMEMISBACL dishonest? Hmm. Let's see, he says that Krishna was concieved by Devaki by a bit of Vishnu's semen, I ask for evidenc, it turns out he got the wrong God.
I say it's plausible.
1cattfish 2 years ago
That's not dishonesty. That is a mistake.
MICHAELMEMISBACL 2 years ago
I am a born-again believer. I'm not so much a Keith Truth fan as a Jesus fan. I don't like Zeitgeist and other pro-Zeitgeist people tearing apart and spreading lies about the authenticity of scripture and Jesus being the only way like He said. When you truly know Jesus you know who He is and truth. People showing similarities of all religions might have some valid points. However Christ is who He says He is alone! Similarities are just that! Christ stands alone as Lord!
greg8998 2 years ago
I've also got a good feeling by 2010, next year, Keith won't even be taken seriously any more.
1cattfish 2 years ago
I don't talk to KeithTruth. I don't know the guy. but, every video of his I've seen point people to Christ and tear apart the new age movement, the nwo and zeitgeist in a accurlate and concise way. Tearing apart lies that take people off course and put people on that broad road that leads to death many are on that Jesus was speaking of!
greg8998 2 years ago
greg Kieth is just a silly twat who has mental problems.. the NWO exists.. Sad to say.. Jesus the son of god.. did not .. sad to say.
dumalucky 2 years ago
Here are some of the references corresponding to the essential information:
Raymond E. Brown, The Death of the Messiah: From Gethsemane to the Grave (New York: Doubleday, Anchor Bible Reference Library 1994), p. 964; D. A. Carson, et al., p. 50-56; Shaye J.D. Cohen, From the Maccabees to the Mishnah, Westminster Press, 1987, p. 78, 93, 105, 108; John Dominic Crossan, The Historical Jesus: The Life of a Mediterranean Jewish Peasant, HarperCollins, 1991, p. xi-xiii
MICHAELMEMISBACL 2 years ago
there are no non-biblical references to a Jesus by any known historian of the time during and after Jesus's purported advent. "No literate person of his own time mentioned him in any known writing." Eminent Hellenistic Jewish historian and philosopher Philo (20 B.C.E.-50 C.E.), alive at the time makes no mention of him. Nor do any of the some 40 other historians who wrote during the first two centuries of the Common Era. all you will be able to quote is the Book of lies.. the bible!!!
dumalucky 2 years ago
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MICHAELMEMISBACL 2 years ago
Alex, a great military leader, but normal human, and I'm pretty sure Alex wrote down about his travels, and other things he did.
Jesus, raised the dead, walked on water, caused the Jews to meet on Passover eve, beaten, killed, and ressurected. No records. Who do you think is more interesting and deserves more notice?
1cattfish 2 years ago
How does that address the point that even Alexander was not written about by anyone else?
MICHAELMEMISBACL 2 years ago
your a moron Michaelmemisbacl.. Really face it!!.. Your full of crap because you are afraid to look in the mirror and say'' 'Shit , I have to grow up.. Jesus is fake just like santa' Grow up idiot!
dumalucky 2 years ago
What does the latest version of Encyclopedia Britannica say about Jesus?
"These independent accounts prove that in ancient times even the opponents of Christianity never doubted the historicity of Jesus, which was disputed for the first time and on inadequate grounds by several authors at the end of the 18th, during the 19th, and at the beginning of the 20th centuries."
Cattfish or duma, you may respond to this. But I won't bother you to do it or force you to do it.
MICHAELMEMISBACL 2 years ago
To his credit, G.A. Wells has now abandoned the Christ-Myth hypothesis andhas accepted the historicity of Jesus on the basis of the "Q" document. [SeeG.A. Wells, The Jesus Myth (La Salle, Illinois: Open Court, 1999).]
MICHAELMEMISBACL 2 years ago
And even his death: "The New England Journal of Medicine article is believed to be the first collaboration between medical scientists and an historian to answer an ancient question about what caused a famous historical figure to die. Dr. Borza says the earliest surviving accounts about Alexander's death available today were written three centuries after he died, so there was not a lot of information to go on."
MICHAELMEMISBACL 2 years ago
what is written about Alexander does not fly in the face of science and common sense.. and therfore could be true.. but the jesus rubish demands greater evidence and there simply is none! but there is a lot to say its a lie..
dumalucky 2 years ago
Look, I posed a very simple concept. If Alexander should have been written about; who wrote about him 100 years after his death? Who?
MICHAELMEMISBACL 2 years ago
You Moron!! If people were saying and writting 100 years after his death.. that Alexander performed mirracles and rose from the dead and walked on water.. would you believe that ? looks like you would.. You are crazy!! Open your eys and your brain idiot!
dumalucky 2 years ago
"Jesus the son of god.. did not .. sad to say" VS. "With few exceptions (such as Robert M. Price), scholars in the fields of biblical studies and history agree that Jesus WAS a Jewish teacher from Galilee who was regarded as a healer, on the orders of Roman Governor Pontius Pilate was sentenced to death by crucifixion"
One claim has sources, one of which is John Dominic Crossan, The Historical Jesus: The Life of a Mediterranean Jewish Peasant, HarperCollins, 1991, p. xi-xiii
MICHAELMEMISBACL 2 years ago
Name any historian at the time of Jesus that mentions him! go on!! name one!! and dont say josephus!! because those short entries in his writtings are now admitted to be forgeries by even Christian Historians!!
dumalucky 2 years ago
""No literate person of his own time mentioned him in any known writing." Eminent Hellenistic Jewish historian and philosopher Philo (20 B.C.E.-50 C.E.)"
This is irrelevant to the sources of Pliny, Tacitus, Suotonius, and the unaddressed concept (by you) that "With few exceptions... scholars in the fields... agree that Jesus WAS a Jewish teacher from Galilee who was regarded as a healer, was baptized by John the Baptist..., and was sentenced to death by crucifixion"
MICHAELMEMISBACL 2 years ago
YOU DIRTY TRICKSTER!! Philo, a prolific Jewish writer who lived from 20 BCE to 50 CE, wrote extensively about the political and theological movements throughout the Mediterranean, and his views foreshadowed Christian theology, yet he never once wrote anything about Jesus. Not only this, but he actually wrote about political conflicts between the Jews and Pontius Pilate in Judea COME ON!! QUOTE WHAT PHILO SAID ABOUT JESUS!!
dumalucky 2 years ago
Check sources
MICHAELMEMISBACL 2 years ago
your the one that needs to cheack sources!! you idiot!! because ther is no independant historical evidence of Jesus worth a hoot!! other than the bible which is a crock of shit that contradicts itself.. its concocted as a form of social control!!
dumalucky 2 years ago