Jim Cornette is right. And Butterbean knocked Bart Gunn OUT in WAY less than one minute. The point is that OVERALL the Brawl for All was a terrible idea for a Professional Wrestling Organization.
i actually liked the brawl for all, but yeah, it was a bad idea.. as far as butterbean, he was kind of a big deal back in the day. how many ppl can say they had a video game based off of them? also, marc mero was in it and had plenty of boxing expirience, former golden glove winner, so bart gunn vs butterbean is only stupid because he lost since he already beat someone with plenty of time in the ring
@mmscott9 say even with all that charisma ablitt in ring on mic telling a story. wwe never gave billy a big push or run as than wwf champion. wwe could have had billy in 1999 had 1 couple month reign as wwf champion. but no wwe had billy stuck in midcarder with just mid card tag team single titles.
I can't even imagine how the scope of the WWE would have changed had Steve Williams fought Stone Cold, and Bart Gunn became a huge star. Just one of those things to think about.
yea, they really missed out on money in the late 90s on the Dr Death-austin match... They were then forced to put him against losers like the undertaker, triple H, and the Rock.
It was such a weird concept. Everyone knows that wrestling is scripted (i hate people who call it fake and say it in such a derogatory way, 99% of everything you watch on TV falls under the word "fake" if you apply the same rules as those applied to wrestling). Yet, they have a contest which is unscripted, but is going to have a scripted ending. It makes about as much sense as sticking your thumb up your ass and calling yourself a traffic light.
This just goes to show this is ''BIG'' difference between able to hand your self handle on the Street. And able to fight against trained professional, like Boxers & MMA fighters.
@msu15 No disrespect to Dr Death he was a great wrestler. However, Im with you. He wasnt over enough with all of the fan base to have a match with stone cold. He looked old at this time anyways. Excellent wrestler just not a top draw
Yknow, im reading a lot about butterbean, in the boxing world he was considered to be a fat joke, but his name ment something to people who weren't fans at the time. Any real heavywieght would have beat the shit out of that fatass. He knocked out a wrestler who had done some tough man fights 10 years ago, grats.
@MrAqminor back in the day butterbean was the best super heavyweight around, you have to realize super heavyweights are not the same fighters as heavyweights
the brawl for all was stupid but jim cornette wouldn't have the balls to say the shit he said about butter bean to his face butter bean would fuck him up
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Doctor Death is a fucking joke and Cornette is a liar....watch the so called doctor death in mma....a punch and a kick and he is done....yet corny says he could beat sooo many guys??
Give me a fucking break.....doctor death has always sucked and I was glad to see him get ko'ed.
For the record...holly wasn't the first....it was Dr. douche,JBL,the godfather,THEN hardcore holly..........quit lying and spinning it you fucking liar Jim Cornette.
@dooob69 Dr. Death had so many injuries from pro wrestling that it wasn't even worth it going to MMA in the 1st place, let alone do that stupid Brawl for All. Dr. Death was one of the most dominant pro wrestlers back in the day. He was talking about him fighting a bunch of marks back in the day because he was a heel and ppl believed it. Dr. Death was no chump by any means (MMA fighter or not).You never been in the wrestling business to even know what went on, only the ppl that lived it.
Cornette's profanity-laden rants are always entertaining, and 9x out of 10, you can't disagree with him. But sometimes he really sounds as fucking stupid as he looks. First, if anyone disagrees with him, he'll fight them? Come on, Corny, you're not fighting anybody. If you look up "pussy" in the dictionary, you'll see James E. himself, alongside Michael Cole. And Dr. Death vs. Austin wouldn't draw a dime. Austin will forever be the man, but Dr. Death was NOT money. Tough bastard, but not a draw.
@GoodMicWork Dan Severn was simply worried that an injury in "Brawl for All" would ruin his MMA career (not that he did much MMA after pro-wrestling). Not really much to tell there.
@DevilTakeMe Which was smart because a few guys did get injured in it. I think Savio retired after because of an injury facing Darren Drozdov, ironically about a year before his injury.
@yoyo2ma He also didn't need to do it. Dan Severn was already a legitimate MMA champion, so he didn't really need it for his career. If he didn't make it as a wrestler, he still had MMA to fall back on.
For all the other guys, it was probably seen as a way to try and get over, and for some guys, it was a last chance at stardom.
Wrestlers risk their lives all the time with their maneuvers, and they do get hurt a lot of the time. But to take them out of their element and have them fight/box was foolish and extremely dangerous. Even at WM I thought the wrestling fans were in shock from the reality of boxing. They saw one of their own get knocked out for real by a professional prize fighter. Imagine a klitschko Swanton Bomb…that’s got botch written all over it.
The WM fight against Butterbean actually took place more than 6 months after Gunn won the Brawl for All. For whatever reason, the WWF kept Gunn off TV and failed to capitalize on his victory. Anyway, there was no way Williams was being pushed to headline a PPV against Austin. He was washed up by then.
I like Jim and respect a lot of his opinions but I figured out how "fake" or "scripted" wrestling was by the time I was 9 yrs old. Still loved it, and still do. I'd like to think that he'd give the fans a littlle more credit. Thats all I'm sayin.
Yeah, when Butterbean hit Gunn it sounded like a watermelon getting crushed with a sledgehammer. I remember when the fight took place that I could hear Vince McMahon tearing up Gunn's contract after that!!
Bart Gunn knocking out Dr. Death was awesome, still one of the best moments on RAW from July 1998 (which last I checked was no where near WrestleMania 15 in 1999)
@diceCasden As part of Marc Mero's attempted push, they put him up against Butterbean in '97 (see, uh, In Your House 19). Worked match - Didn't go anywhere. That was what got the idea for Brawl for All was only around for 3 months in '98 (Marc Mero lost again in a real match). And it's because Gunn won the Brawl for All that they put him in Wrestlemania 15 in a real boxing match against Butterbean.
I wonder what Cornette's IQ is? That man is no slouch in the intellectual department. His business sense is impeccable and his mind works at about the speed of light. I love this guy.
i have to agree with Cornette about all of this. I remember that shit. I also remember that it didn't go over at all. The majority of the fans didn't give a shit about it. It was a non-wrestling spectacle being put on with a group of guys who had absolutely no push in the actual wrestling story arcs, thus nobody gave a shit about the competitors. And Butterbean... shit. Nobody in wrestling had heard of him until they started pushing that one damn match. And nobody cared during or after the match
loved the brawl for it all disagree with cornett....but he is dead right about having gunn face butterbean....that was a throwin match for the ppv, and just obviously ruined gunns "heat" to no end..
Dr Death Steve Williams vs Stone Cold Steve Austin would have been an excellent Wrestlemania main event for the WWF Championship if that ever happend but it wont now because of the bullshit (Brawl For All) and Stone Cold Steve Austin dosent wrestle anymore and Dr Death Steve Williams is dead. RIP Dr Death Steve Williams you were one hell of a wrestler!
@368790TylerM I respect Dr. Death a great deal. Was an awesome wrestler, and he made it believable. But he wasn't marketable. WWF brought him in after gaining a pretty big name internationally, but the American market for lack of a better term didn't give a shit about him. Steve Austin vs Dr, Death at Wrestlemania for the title? Are you kidding me? That would of got a whole 100 PPV buys maybe.
Takedowns were allowed in the Brawl For All, though. I watched a handful of matches from it and Steve Blackman won a couple of matches based on takedowns.
I always wonder if there are still people in the wrestling world who speak with cornette in privat. He does wounderfull rants, but everybody makes mistakes, there is no need to yell every time.
Did Butterbean and Bart Gunn's match even last a minute, I remember Butterbean knocking him out in one or two hits. It was short very short and stupid I agree.
vince mcmahon i believe cause of how fuckin b.s. it was both russo and mcmahon thopughts this was awesome yet the attitude era fans like me thought ok this is so fucking funny at the smae time is real and there talent got hurt so at wm15 butterbean aka. the biggest waste of money since bastion booger desecrated bart bunn in a minute and it was like why? and how would u think that at the time with hardcore being so popular that this would go over with the fans. brawl 4 all was not 4 me. russo sux
Have to agree with Cornette about this one. Brawl for all was fuckin stupid and the WWE did not manage to get anyone over from Brawl for all. I remember that after the Brawl for all there was a really dumb angle between Bart Gunn and Dr Death which lasted about two weeks and then they took Bart Gunn off of TV for about 3 months so people have almost forgotten about him. Then suddenly they drag him out for Wrestlemania when he got knocked out by Butterbean.
I always felt that this was done to "punish" Gunn for fucking up their plans for Dr. Death. I felt that Jim Ross wanted his pound of flesh for his broken relationship with his friend Dr Death.
@carl22069 and both were either legit tough guys or in mero's case had a background in boxing. I was a teen during the BFA and I kinda liked some of the fights. Some were pretty boring though. The lasting legacy of the BFA was the theme lol. Big Zeke uses the BFA theme with lyrics and a few musical tweeks..
Try to say that whenever you're in japan and see what they have to say about the legend that is "Dr. Death"
A nobody...Tsh, there is a world OUTSIDE WWE
Don't get the impression that the match was HIS idea, go to 2:01 in the clip where he mentions that OTHERS came up with that match (guessing Russo, perhaps)
They made him pretty famous in Japan, though, people cared for him there (and alot of people in other countries, including USA who imported AJPW tapes to see him and others)
Well, whatever, it's too late either way, the "Brawl For All" is already passed and Dr. Death is sadly not alive anymore
Corny is on the ball, once again. What a waste of the great Steve Williams. He is right, it was a retarded idea, and Steve Williams v. Steve Austin would have drawn amazing international revenue had they done it right.
Dr. Death was a huge star in Japan who, given the right push, could have easily gotten over in WWE.
@Un1c0RnArmy Both Brawl for All and Junkyard Match are Wrestlecrap inducted. JYM is what I thought of when Jim Cornette mentioned all the guys WWF hurt with this Brawl for All. In the Wrestlecrap Book of Lists they said, "WCW had no buildup for the match, spent a lot of money on a poorly lit match and legitimately hurt many wrestlers and got no extra buys for they're PPV, man we loved WCW."
@sserpent21 yeah I read the book [very good book especially the piece they did on Mordecai] I remember seeing the brawl for all when I was a kid and thinking 2 things 1] when are they gonna wrestle again? and 2] this is really stupid and that's saying a lot because I was like 5 when this happened
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This is when he was still at TNA right? It pisses me off that he clearly thinks Russo is an idiot but he won't admit it until he left the company, it makes hjim sound like a pussayyyyyy
@nwo1234life He didn't leave TNA on bad terms though. There was no ill will from either side. Cornette disagreed with what they were doing and TNA didn't think they needed Cornette. Jim has long said he hoped the company turned around and survived, he's just got issues with a lot of what goes on there.
@CombatSportFan Jim went on record saying that he would be willing to return to TNA as long as he could get behind the creative department (which more or less boils down to "Russo being gone" and Ed Ferrera never returning).
@DevilTakeMe Honestly, anybody with any sanity would make that their one demand if they were to go to work for TNA. As long as Vince Russo is in the position he is in, NOTHING in TNA will ever get over. The guy thinks that everything has to be shocking or exciting or what have you when he doesn't realize you build that stuff up progressively. It's like a stripper doing her act. If she just walked out on stage naked, where's the fun in that? It's all in the build up and then the pay off.
@CombatSportFan TNA has all the potential in the world, but they have the worst person in the world driving their creative direction. What we've got is WCW 2.0 - sure there's still people watching, but no one cares. They were put up against RAW on Monday Nights last year, and their ratings tanked immediately. That should tell you what people think of their product. It's "filler" on nights when they're not watching WWE.
@DevilTakeMe And if anyone in TNA would look you can see the effect Russo had. 1999 WCW was doing OK, not great, but a solid promotion still. Russo arrives and they plummet like a rock. 2001 Bischoff gets back and for 3 months they were becoming a solid, steady promotion once again. It wasn't a coincidence and Dixie Carter and Jeff Jarrett should both realize that. There is a difference in being loyal and being business smart. If they want to keep him employed make him a manger. He can draw heat
@jaryd12345 He never held back about how he felt about Russo. This is just a rare moment where he is pointing out it's not ALL Russo's fault. There was never a time when Cornette EVER hid how he felt about Russo.
@jaryd12345 When you're working at a place, you never badmouth it but when you leave, you have a chance to look at it from the outside.
Take a McDonald's for example, you have a job there and make decent money then they fire you. Chances are, you'll let loose with the venom since you're not required to bite your tongue plus Cornette probably said so many times but TNA was too foolish to listen.
Are you kidding me? Cornette's been calling Vince Russo a moron publicly since at least 2000. His stance on Russo is well established and has been for a long time.
@newfrickinshow ...Yes... Captain Missthepoint. What I'm saying is, in tihs clip, when we already knew he thought Russo was an idiot, he shits ALL over a Russo idea, but because he's working with him he won't bury him for it and just blames McMahon for going with the idea.
Here we go again. Two fans arguing over who would win between athletes of two different sports. If it was an MMA fight, the MMA fighter would win, if it were a boxing match the boxer would win. Two different sports with different rules, different strategies, and different mind sets going in.
I usually always agree with Cornette on most things, but his desicrpition on Butterbean was off. Look at his records, Butterbean knows how to kick ass.
i like how he said at the end that is the stupidest thing vince mcmahon has ever atleast on television oh god i have to meet this guy and ask em what vince did off television l
sorry yeah you'r right, i confused severn's case with steve blackman's...blackman won against mero, but could not compete in the next round due to injury.
It's sad that when they mentioned guys who were tough, and in the tournament, they didn't even bother mentioning Steve Blackman. Hell, even Marc Mero had boxing experience. Just a horrible idea.
Huh? He didn't any of that. He said Williams lost because he had never fought with gloves AND tore a hamstring in the fight. He then said Gunn lost because he had minimal "tough man" experience while fighting a guy with pro boxing experience.
@skinwalkerxxx Hes not saying that. What Cornette is saying is that out of the other wrestlers, Bart had the experience, but if you compare the experience Bart has to Butterbean then Cornette is right saying Bart has no experience because thats what Butterbean does for a living so Bart never stood a chance.
I enjoyed the brawl for all but i can see where jim is comming from. you build up a wrestler as a tough guy and a bad ass and risk that by letting him shoot fight, and a guy who was not even mid card exposes this tough guy as a bit of a pussy. can you imagin if stone cold was in it and got knocked out by bart gun? bye bye to the toughest s.o.b in the wwe.
I enjoyed the Brawl for All. But Jim C is right, it killed a few characters.
SteaksauceandRob 2 hours ago
Jim Cornette is right. And Butterbean knocked Bart Gunn OUT in WAY less than one minute. The point is that OVERALL the Brawl for All was a terrible idea for a Professional Wrestling Organization.
TripleRp 1 week ago
Do you marks seriously agree with Jim with Steve Williams and Austin making millions? That shit would NOT have sold!
joemj413 1 week ago
length of the video 6:19 :D
Pander8874 2 weeks ago
i actually liked the brawl for all, but yeah, it was a bad idea.. as far as butterbean, he was kind of a big deal back in the day. how many ppl can say they had a video game based off of them? also, marc mero was in it and had plenty of boxing expirience, former golden glove winner, so bart gunn vs butterbean is only stupid because he lost since he already beat someone with plenty of time in the ring
ratedtriplex 2 weeks ago
He was right..The Brawl for All was fucking stupid.
acehighpat 2 weeks ago
I cant imagine Bart Gunn as a huge star, he didnt have the charisma or ability that Billy Gunn had, which really isnt saying a lot.
mmscott9 3 weeks ago
@mmscott9 say even with all that charisma ablitt in ring on mic telling a story. wwe never gave billy a big push or run as than wwf champion. wwe could have had billy in 1999 had 1 couple month reign as wwf champion. but no wwe had billy stuck in midcarder with just mid card tag team single titles.
MrDivalover1 2 weeks ago
I can't even imagine how the scope of the WWE would have changed had Steve Williams fought Stone Cold, and Bart Gunn became a huge star. Just one of those things to think about.
Capitalist111 1 month ago
yea, they really missed out on money in the late 90s on the Dr Death-austin match... They were then forced to put him against losers like the undertaker, triple H, and the Rock.
Jim isnt wrong often, but hes wrong here.
mwrich01 1 month ago
It was such a weird concept. Everyone knows that wrestling is scripted (i hate people who call it fake and say it in such a derogatory way, 99% of everything you watch on TV falls under the word "fake" if you apply the same rules as those applied to wrestling). Yet, they have a contest which is unscripted, but is going to have a scripted ending. It makes about as much sense as sticking your thumb up your ass and calling yourself a traffic light.
weirds0up 1 month ago 5
The brawl for all was just stupid booking. It was not needed at all, specially having Bart fight Butterbean after winning the brawl for all.
dannielpreto 1 month ago
This just goes to show this is ''BIG'' difference between able to hand your self handle on the Street. And able to fight against trained professional, like Boxers & MMA fighters.
AFFTL 1 month ago 2
I would've loved to see "Dr. Death" Steve Williams vs. "Stone Cold" Steve Austin.
Enigma5469 1 month ago 4
I have to disagree with Cornette here, nobody, and I mean NOBODY, would've cared about Austin vs Dr. Death.
msu15 1 month ago
@msu15 No disrespect to Dr Death he was a great wrestler. However, Im with you. He wasnt over enough with all of the fan base to have a match with stone cold. He looked old at this time anyways. Excellent wrestler just not a top draw
GLazz85 1 month ago
Yknow, im reading a lot about butterbean, in the boxing world he was considered to be a fat joke, but his name ment something to people who weren't fans at the time. Any real heavywieght would have beat the shit out of that fatass. He knocked out a wrestler who had done some tough man fights 10 years ago, grats.
MrAqminor 1 month ago
@MrAqminor back in the day butterbean was the best super heavyweight around, you have to realize super heavyweights are not the same fighters as heavyweights
809Ollie 1 month ago
the brawl for all was stupid but jim cornette wouldn't have the balls to say the shit he said about butter bean to his face butter bean would fuck him up
raplyclark1987 1 month ago
Yeah I remember the fans used to boo and chant boring during the brawl for all.
CaBr0n76 1 month ago
Hey how about the fact that Dan Severn and Steve Blackman ended up getting removed from the competition due to them being too talented?
HawaiianRoss 1 month ago
@HawaiianRoss : Yeah. I remember his wiping the mat with Marc Mero. Legitimately it should have been Severn and Blackman.
D2Kprime 1 month ago
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Doctor Death is a fucking joke and Cornette is a liar....watch the so called doctor death in mma....a punch and a kick and he is done....yet corny says he could beat sooo many guys??
Give me a fucking break.....doctor death has always sucked and I was glad to see him get ko'ed.
For the record...holly wasn't the first....it was Dr. douche,JBL,the godfather,THEN hardcore holly..........quit lying and spinning it you fucking liar Jim Cornette.
dooob69 1 month ago
@dooob69 Dr. Death had so many injuries from pro wrestling that it wasn't even worth it going to MMA in the 1st place, let alone do that stupid Brawl for All. Dr. Death was one of the most dominant pro wrestlers back in the day. He was talking about him fighting a bunch of marks back in the day because he was a heel and ppl believed it. Dr. Death was no chump by any means (MMA fighter or not).You never been in the wrestling business to even know what went on, only the ppl that lived it.
ticalmeth86 1 month ago
@dooob69
Legit tough guy who could beat people up doesn't really mean that you're a fucking MMA expert
Me scoring the toilet with my turd does not mean that I'm gonna become a great sniper
SolidMike84 1 month ago
jim is funny about what he said about butter bean but it wouldn't be funny if he said it to his face butter bean would fuck him up
raplyclark1987 2 months ago
the brawl for all was fucking stupid!!! hey jim it was funny what you said about butter bean how about you say it to his face he would fuck you up!!
raplyclark1987 2 months ago
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They need to bring back another brawl for all, i just wanna see what superstars would be in it
theGting 2 months ago
The only good thing to supposedly come out of this was that Bart supposedly had his future career in Japan solidified by knocking out Dr. Death.
EzekielWinnfield 2 months ago
Cornette's profanity-laden rants are always entertaining, and 9x out of 10, you can't disagree with him. But sometimes he really sounds as fucking stupid as he looks. First, if anyone disagrees with him, he'll fight them? Come on, Corny, you're not fighting anybody. If you look up "pussy" in the dictionary, you'll see James E. himself, alongside Michael Cole. And Dr. Death vs. Austin wouldn't draw a dime. Austin will forever be the man, but Dr. Death was NOT money. Tough bastard, but not a draw.
GLITZandGLOOM 2 months ago
AHAHAHA Brakkus got KO'd by TNT aka Kwang the Ninja aka Savio Vega.
StanKingston420 2 months ago
thumbs up if you only know butterbean thru jackass :)
bmofano 2 months ago
dr. death and austin would have been killer !
Laingraves 2 months ago
This should have been a Red Flag for WWE.
jww112093 2 months ago
Dan Severn was in this thing too but I think he dropped out or something...I wish Jim would have given the story on that
GoodMicWork 3 months ago
@GoodMicWork Dan Severn was simply worried that an injury in "Brawl for All" would ruin his MMA career (not that he did much MMA after pro-wrestling). Not really much to tell there.
DevilTakeMe 3 months ago
@DevilTakeMe Which was smart because a few guys did get injured in it. I think Savio retired after because of an injury facing Darren Drozdov, ironically about a year before his injury.
yoyo2ma 2 months ago
@yoyo2ma He also didn't need to do it. Dan Severn was already a legitimate MMA champion, so he didn't really need it for his career. If he didn't make it as a wrestler, he still had MMA to fall back on.
For all the other guys, it was probably seen as a way to try and get over, and for some guys, it was a last chance at stardom.
DevilTakeMe 2 months ago
Steve Dr. Death Williams vs.Stone Cold Steve Austin I don' think so .
thewilliamgregg 3 months ago
Wrestlers risk their lives all the time with their maneuvers, and they do get hurt a lot of the time. But to take them out of their element and have them fight/box was foolish and extremely dangerous. Even at WM I thought the wrestling fans were in shock from the reality of boxing. They saw one of their own get knocked out for real by a professional prize fighter. Imagine a klitschko Swanton Bomb…that’s got botch written all over it.
bowcreel 3 months ago
Savio Vega and Hawk got hurt doing Brawl for All too I believe
supaTW 3 months ago
@supaTW yep, the Brawl For All ended Savio Vega's career in WWE
Argee11 3 months ago
The WM fight against Butterbean actually took place more than 6 months after Gunn won the Brawl for All. For whatever reason, the WWF kept Gunn off TV and failed to capitalize on his victory. Anyway, there was no way Williams was being pushed to headline a PPV against Austin. He was washed up by then.
BruiserKnux 4 months ago
I could listen to his rants all day long!
Caseygarnerguitar 4 months ago 4
@Caseygarnerguitar me too.
TheLegendkiller2100 4 months ago
i don't think steve williams woulda been big time
cottodabodykill 4 months ago
I like Jim and respect a lot of his opinions but I figured out how "fake" or "scripted" wrestling was by the time I was 9 yrs old. Still loved it, and still do. I'd like to think that he'd give the fans a littlle more credit. Thats all I'm sayin.
RobLeRu 4 months ago
Yeah, when Butterbean hit Gunn it sounded like a watermelon getting crushed with a sledgehammer. I remember when the fight took place that I could hear Vince McMahon tearing up Gunn's contract after that!!
Clintbdee 5 months ago 4
I felt bad for Bart Gunn when this happened. The Brawl for All gave him mad respect from the fans and they the WWF squashed him with this fight.
FAITHandLOGIC 5 months ago 18
RIP Dr. Death.
upabittoolate 5 months ago
Bart Gunn knocking out Dr. Death was awesome, still one of the best moments on RAW from July 1998 (which last I checked was no where near WrestleMania 15 in 1999)
diceCasden 5 months ago
@diceCasden As part of Marc Mero's attempted push, they put him up against Butterbean in '97 (see, uh, In Your House 19). Worked match - Didn't go anywhere. That was what got the idea for Brawl for All was only around for 3 months in '98 (Marc Mero lost again in a real match). And it's because Gunn won the Brawl for All that they put him in Wrestlemania 15 in a real boxing match against Butterbean.
DevilTakeMe 5 months ago
I was so pissed about the repercussions to Dr. Death, bunch of bs.
KansaiJesse 6 months ago 4
@EmeraldIsleStar
So Buster Douglas,Evander Holyfield, & Lennox Lewis never put Tyson on his ass right?
UMOGrunt 6 months ago
I wonder what Cornette's IQ is? That man is no slouch in the intellectual department. His business sense is impeccable and his mind works at about the speed of light. I love this guy.
spudnutsncoffee 7 months ago 4
@spudnutsncoffee Smokey Mountain Wrestling would beg to differ.
Fiendishfoe666 7 months ago
i have to agree with Cornette about all of this. I remember that shit. I also remember that it didn't go over at all. The majority of the fans didn't give a shit about it. It was a non-wrestling spectacle being put on with a group of guys who had absolutely no push in the actual wrestling story arcs, thus nobody gave a shit about the competitors. And Butterbean... shit. Nobody in wrestling had heard of him until they started pushing that one damn match. And nobody cared during or after the match
krazyzark 7 months ago
loved the brawl for it all disagree with cornett....but he is dead right about having gunn face butterbean....that was a throwin match for the ppv, and just obviously ruined gunns "heat" to no end..
bettydaw1970 7 months ago
Next to making David Arquette WCW Champion, WWF Brawl For All comes in at #2 of worst ideas in wrestling history.
hustleking17 8 months ago
@hustleking17 where does the AWA's Team Challenge Series rank on that list?
d820m 7 months ago
Didn't Dr. Death show up a little after this wearing some kind of ninja getup or am I thinking of something else
udderprojectz 8 months ago
Dr Death Steve Williams vs Stone Cold Steve Austin would have been an excellent Wrestlemania main event for the WWF Championship if that ever happend but it wont now because of the bullshit (Brawl For All) and Stone Cold Steve Austin dosent wrestle anymore and Dr Death Steve Williams is dead. RIP Dr Death Steve Williams you were one hell of a wrestler!
368790TylerM 8 months ago 13
@368790TylerM I respect Dr. Death a great deal. Was an awesome wrestler, and he made it believable. But he wasn't marketable. WWF brought him in after gaining a pretty big name internationally, but the American market for lack of a better term didn't give a shit about him. Steve Austin vs Dr, Death at Wrestlemania for the title? Are you kidding me? That would of got a whole 100 PPV buys maybe.
HBKCommish 2 weeks ago
Droz was in the Brawl For All.
hbehain4441 9 months ago
Takedowns were allowed in the Brawl For All, though. I watched a handful of matches from it and Steve Blackman won a couple of matches based on takedowns.
evrbody 9 months ago
I always wonder if there are still people in the wrestling world who speak with cornette in privat. He does wounderfull rants, but everybody makes mistakes, there is no need to yell every time.
Phexyn 9 months ago
"We're all just a bunch of young schoolgirls with shiny new vibrators..."
LMFAO. Jim Cornette is insanely hilarious.
TheStranglehold 10 months ago 6
"what the fuck is this?" @butterbean
ooooooSCORPIONoooooo 10 months ago 4
'Most people didn't give two shits and a holla!' awesome quote
stillagooner2011 10 months ago
I would've paid to see Dr.Death Steve Williams wrestle Stone Cold for the WWF Title.
blugoblin01 10 months ago
Did Butterbean and Bart Gunn's match even last a minute, I remember Butterbean knocking him out in one or two hits. It was short very short and stupid I agree.
swsanders 10 months ago
vince mcmahon i believe cause of how fuckin b.s. it was both russo and mcmahon thopughts this was awesome yet the attitude era fans like me thought ok this is so fucking funny at the smae time is real and there talent got hurt so at wm15 butterbean aka. the biggest waste of money since bastion booger desecrated bart bunn in a minute and it was like why? and how would u think that at the time with hardcore being so popular that this would go over with the fans. brawl 4 all was not 4 me. russo sux
SVSR2011 11 months ago
bradshaw terry funk but im i think im wrong.
SVSR2011 11 months ago
who would favor dr.death over dan severn?
hazelenoch 11 months ago
Have to agree with Cornette about this one. Brawl for all was fuckin stupid and the WWE did not manage to get anyone over from Brawl for all. I remember that after the Brawl for all there was a really dumb angle between Bart Gunn and Dr Death which lasted about two weeks and then they took Bart Gunn off of TV for about 3 months so people have almost forgotten about him. Then suddenly they drag him out for Wrestlemania when he got knocked out by Butterbean.
bikerboygeoff 1 year ago
Got to agree with Cornette about this one the Brawl for all was fuckin stupid.
bikerboygeoff 1 year ago 24
Bunch of young school girls with shiney new vibrators,lol.
80swrestling 1 year ago
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80swrestling 1 year ago
Jim Cornette is right. the wwe brawl for all was not that good.
rlcinnj 1 year ago 8
I like how they reward Gunn's victory with making him box butterbean.
Thats like taking a test for a job and then the employer says "good, now you have to fight the company tiger."
vernsi 1 year ago 31
@vernsi
I always felt that this was done to "punish" Gunn for fucking up their plans for Dr. Death. I felt that Jim Ross wanted his pound of flesh for his broken relationship with his friend Dr Death.
UCKABAH 6 months ago
@vernsi or like beating Test in a wrestlingand then saying "congratulations....now you have to fight big show in a boxing match the next week"
bmsman816 4 months ago
@carl22069 Savio Vega sucks worse than John Cena
pladampa 1 year ago
John Cena is a badass! A badass homo!
pladampa 1 year ago
I would've loved to have seen Dr. Death vs. Stone Cold at Wrestlemania, or any PPV for that matter.
AxelLaw 1 year ago
@carl22069 and both were either legit tough guys or in mero's case had a background in boxing. I was a teen during the BFA and I kinda liked some of the fights. Some were pretty boring though. The lasting legacy of the BFA was the theme lol. Big Zeke uses the BFA theme with lyrics and a few musical tweeks..
bkstyle82 1 year ago
'The wrestling fans don't give 2 shits and a holler' LOL
utuber377 1 year ago
Jim Cornette is the man!!!!
doesyourgodcomeinaca 1 year ago
i have to admit i liked the Brawl for All, but it was indeed bad for the business
jakedge 1 year ago
Who the heck would be interested in seeing Stone Cold Steve Austin vs a nobody? No wonder Cornette keeps getting fired.
wsymphony 1 year ago
@wsymphony
Try to say that whenever you're in japan and see what they have to say about the legend that is "Dr. Death"
A nobody...Tsh, there is a world OUTSIDE WWE
Don't get the impression that the match was HIS idea, go to 2:01 in the clip where he mentions that OTHERS came up with that match (guessing Russo, perhaps)
SolidMike84 1 year ago
@SolidMike84
WWE is an American company and they barelly if ever have done business in Japan at that time. Other than Japan, nobody cares about this nobody.
wsymphony 1 year ago
@wsymphony
Yeah, because americans care ONLY for american made stuff, right?
Gimme a break
Oh yeah there are quite alot of people who cared/cares for this legend
SolidMike84 1 year ago
@SolidMike84
Uh, Steve Williams is an American. The reason he was in Japan was because nobody cared about him in America.
wsymphony 1 year ago
@wsymphony
Yes, I know that
They made him pretty famous in Japan, though, people cared for him there (and alot of people in other countries, including USA who imported AJPW tapes to see him and others)
Well, whatever, it's too late either way, the "Brawl For All" is already passed and Dr. Death is sadly not alive anymore
SolidMike84 1 year ago
@SolidMike84
My point was that it wouldn't have been a big draw in the WWE to have Austin vs Steve Williams. It would have been a big draw in Japan though.
wsymphony 1 year ago
@wsymphony
Not the way WWE presented Steve Williams, they could've built him up alot better but you're right, but he certainly wasn't a "nobody"
SolidMike84 1 year ago 5
@SolidMike84
They shouldn't have hired him to begin with. WWF was all about Attitude, which Williams didn't have.
wsymphony 1 year ago
@wsymphony
He was a badass though, but I see your point
SolidMike84 1 year ago
Corny is on the ball, once again. What a waste of the great Steve Williams. He is right, it was a retarded idea, and Steve Williams v. Steve Austin would have drawn amazing international revenue had they done it right.
Dr. Death was a huge star in Japan who, given the right push, could have easily gotten over in WWE.
MAJS444 1 year ago 2
Butterbean the human waterbed. Thats good.
This Brawl for All sounds like WCW's Junkyard match.
sserpent21 1 year ago
@sserpent21 WOW that's pretty brutal dude, I thought I was the only one who didn't repress that memory of that "match" lol
Un1c0RnArmy 1 year ago
@Un1c0RnArmy Both Brawl for All and Junkyard Match are Wrestlecrap inducted. JYM is what I thought of when Jim Cornette mentioned all the guys WWF hurt with this Brawl for All. In the Wrestlecrap Book of Lists they said, "WCW had no buildup for the match, spent a lot of money on a poorly lit match and legitimately hurt many wrestlers and got no extra buys for they're PPV, man we loved WCW."
sserpent21 1 year ago
@sserpent21 yeah I read the book [very good book especially the piece they did on Mordecai] I remember seeing the brawl for all when I was a kid and thinking 2 things 1] when are they gonna wrestle again? and 2] this is really stupid and that's saying a lot because I was like 5 when this happened
Un1c0RnArmy 1 year ago
Corny is right again..
Maskedsuperstar 1 year ago
great job WWE keep up the bad work MMA RULES
78Bigtank 1 year ago
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Cornette would talk all day if you let him.
bled83 1 year ago
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This is when he was still at TNA right? It pisses me off that he clearly thinks Russo is an idiot but he won't admit it until he left the company, it makes hjim sound like a pussayyyyyy
jaryd12345 1 year ago
@jaryd12345 If he leaves ROH on bad terms, he might be tempted to bad mouth them on podcasts.
nwo1234life 1 year ago 3
@nwo1234life He didn't leave TNA on bad terms though. There was no ill will from either side. Cornette disagreed with what they were doing and TNA didn't think they needed Cornette. Jim has long said he hoped the company turned around and survived, he's just got issues with a lot of what goes on there.
CombatSportFan 8 months ago
@CombatSportFan Jim went on record saying that he would be willing to return to TNA as long as he could get behind the creative department (which more or less boils down to "Russo being gone" and Ed Ferrera never returning).
DevilTakeMe 7 months ago
@DevilTakeMe Honestly, anybody with any sanity would make that their one demand if they were to go to work for TNA. As long as Vince Russo is in the position he is in, NOTHING in TNA will ever get over. The guy thinks that everything has to be shocking or exciting or what have you when he doesn't realize you build that stuff up progressively. It's like a stripper doing her act. If she just walked out on stage naked, where's the fun in that? It's all in the build up and then the pay off.
CombatSportFan 7 months ago
@CombatSportFan TNA has all the potential in the world, but they have the worst person in the world driving their creative direction. What we've got is WCW 2.0 - sure there's still people watching, but no one cares. They were put up against RAW on Monday Nights last year, and their ratings tanked immediately. That should tell you what people think of their product. It's "filler" on nights when they're not watching WWE.
DevilTakeMe 7 months ago
@DevilTakeMe And if anyone in TNA would look you can see the effect Russo had. 1999 WCW was doing OK, not great, but a solid promotion still. Russo arrives and they plummet like a rock. 2001 Bischoff gets back and for 3 months they were becoming a solid, steady promotion once again. It wasn't a coincidence and Dixie Carter and Jeff Jarrett should both realize that. There is a difference in being loyal and being business smart. If they want to keep him employed make him a manger. He can draw heat
CombatSportFan 7 months ago
@jaryd12345
You don't shit where you eat, you wouldn't either if you were on a payroll
Sad but true
SolidMike84 1 year ago
@jaryd12345 He never held back about how he felt about Russo. This is just a rare moment where he is pointing out it's not ALL Russo's fault. There was never a time when Cornette EVER hid how he felt about Russo.
CombatSportFan 1 year ago
@jaryd12345 When you're working at a place, you never badmouth it but when you leave, you have a chance to look at it from the outside.
Take a McDonald's for example, you have a job there and make decent money then they fire you. Chances are, you'll let loose with the venom since you're not required to bite your tongue plus Cornette probably said so many times but TNA was too foolish to listen.
CAWGregoryBlack 1 year ago
@jaryd12345 im pretty sure he was working for tna when Powerslam magazine interviewed him a few years ago and he took a few veiled shots at Russo.
1981bigdee 1 year ago
@jaryd12345 it makes him a smart business man and a good co worker
liveandletrock864 9 months ago
@jaryd12345
Are you kidding me? Cornette's been calling Vince Russo a moron publicly since at least 2000. His stance on Russo is well established and has been for a long time.
newfrickinshow 6 months ago 5
@newfrickinshow ...Yes... Captain Missthepoint. What I'm saying is, in tihs clip, when we already knew he thought Russo was an idiot, he shits ALL over a Russo idea, but because he's working with him he won't bury him for it and just blames McMahon for going with the idea.
jaryd12345 6 months ago
The BFA was one of those ideas that was only good on paper.
KevServo 1 year ago
Road Warrior Hawk during his LOD 2000 phase and Droz were in it as well. That was the first or second fight.
John3nigma 1 year ago
Actually, the fighters could use takedowns in the fights.
See Steve Blackman's fight against Mark Mero.
If Blackman didn't get injured at the time, he would have went on to win The Brawl For All. Not Bart Gunn and certainly not Steve Williams.
He probably would have beat Butterbean at WM too.
wozisababe 1 year ago
@wozisababe which I dont understand why blackman,mero,and severn were overlooked since they actually knew how to fight.
hazelenoch 1 year ago
@wozisababe which I dont understand why blackman,mero,and severn were overlooked since they actually knew how to fight.
hazelenoch 1 year ago
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@wozisababe which I dont understand why blackman,mero,and severn were overlooked since they actually knew how to fight.
hazelenoch 1 year ago
Here we go again. Two fans arguing over who would win between athletes of two different sports. If it was an MMA fight, the MMA fighter would win, if it were a boxing match the boxer would win. Two different sports with different rules, different strategies, and different mind sets going in.
blazen34 1 year ago 2
@blazen34 either way John Cena would lose to them all
pladampa 1 year ago
It was actually Wrestlemania XIV--Bart Gunn vs. Butterbean.
MrRVDppv2002 1 year ago
@MrRVDppv2002 it was XV actually but close enough.its an event i dont think anyone wants to remember
ZippoReviews 1 year ago 2
that so true he is so right....
78Bigtank 1 year ago
I usually always agree with Cornette on most things, but his desicrpition on Butterbean was off. Look at his records, Butterbean knows how to kick ass.
HeyLookItsTorizu 1 year ago
@HeyLookItsTorizu nope Butterbean is a fat slob of a joke. over hyped and over pushed. real MMA guys would kill the fat pig
Aznar245 1 year ago
@Aznar245 You're talking MMA, I am talking boxing. Look up his records if you don't believe me he can kick some ass.
HeyLookItsTorizu 1 year ago
@HeyLookItsTorizu again.. fucking fat pig. he's never really been in any serious contention like world heavyweight cause he is a fucking fat pig
Aznar245 1 year ago
@Aznar245 A "fat pig" that can take people's heads off with his right hand.
HeyLookItsTorizu 1 year ago
@Aznar245 John Cena sucks too!
pladampa 1 year ago
the brawl 4 all sucked balls
michaeldavis678 1 year ago
@michaeldavis678 So does John Cena
pladampa 1 year ago
i like how he said at the end that is the stupidest thing vince mcmahon has ever atleast on television oh god i have to meet this guy and ask em what vince did off television l
TheRagev3 1 year ago
Dan Severn Was in it
calikid05 1 year ago
@calikid05
he got injured
sayanroy36 1 year ago
@sayanroy36 From what I read he dropped out cause he thought the rules were stupid.
calikid05 1 year ago
@calikid05
sorry yeah you'r right, i confused severn's case with steve blackman's...blackman won against mero, but could not compete in the next round due to injury.
sayanroy36 1 year ago
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@calikid05 John Cena would too!
pladampa 1 year ago
@sayanroy36 wish john cena would get injured
pladampa 1 year ago
@calikid05
dan severn dropped out of it
hustleking17 6 months ago
little harsh there on butterbean...
stalingrad32 1 year ago
@stalingrad32 they meant that loser John Cena
pladampa 1 year ago
damn steve williams vs stone cold an bart gunn an bradshaw as the new midnight express would have been tight
thefriendsociety 1 year ago
Marc Mero, he was in it too. The only one I really remember, since he was doing the boxer/wrestler gimmik at the time.
newfrickinshow 1 year ago
It's sad that when they mentioned guys who were tough, and in the tournament, they didn't even bother mentioning Steve Blackman. Hell, even Marc Mero had boxing experience. Just a horrible idea.
MDG248 2 years ago
I <3 Cornette.
ECWNET 2 years ago 5
I laughed so bad when Jim was talking about Butterbean
simplyphenomenal 2 years ago 27
wasn't this at Wrestlemania 14....not 15, and it was Austin and Micheals for the main event, no one knows who Dr. Death is.
regardless.....brawl for all is up there as far as epic fails go.
DeathAdder83 2 years ago
okay i was wrong, it was 15, i just looked it up...........man its awful to watch!
DeathAdder83 2 years ago
@DeathAdder83
Nah it was definitely Wrestlemania 15
blackartsviper 2 years ago
the brawel for all
alexbuthge290 2 years ago
Kill Bart Gunn career as well and He should also talk about Vince McMahon faking his death and accident
Coldstonechampion 2 years ago
Wait he says Bart Gunn beat Dr. Death because Gunn had training and then say Gunn got beat by Butter Bean because Gunn had no training?
It seems to me that he's trying to defend Williams there. Seeing Gunn, this guy had no training. He beat Williams fair and square.
skinwalkerxxx 2 years ago
Huh? He didn't any of that. He said Williams lost because he had never fought with gloves AND tore a hamstring in the fight. He then said Gunn lost because he had minimal "tough man" experience while fighting a guy with pro boxing experience.
madthinker14 2 years ago 7
training compaired to butter bean.
the idea was stupid, what are jr and lawler going to say on air? everything else tonight is fake, but this is real. wtf
goldenryano 2 years ago
@skinwalkerxxx Hes not saying that. What Cornette is saying is that out of the other wrestlers, Bart had the experience, but if you compare the experience Bart has to Butterbean then Cornette is right saying Bart has no experience because thats what Butterbean does for a living so Bart never stood a chance.
Nosveractu 2 years ago
I enjoyed the brawl for all but i can see where jim is comming from. you build up a wrestler as a tough guy and a bad ass and risk that by letting him shoot fight, and a guy who was not even mid card exposes this tough guy as a bit of a pussy. can you imagin if stone cold was in it and got knocked out by bart gun? bye bye to the toughest s.o.b in the wwe.
LeeMk6 2 years ago 8
Sadly I can see someone like Nunzio (little Guido) beating Austin or HHH in a real fight
JohnFromSpace 2 years ago 5
altho he is rite about the wrestlemania butterbean thing was ridiculous to make it shoot and knock gunn out in 30 seconds making him look like a joke
Crookmeisteren 2 years ago
jim cornette is too old school and hasn't been with the times for about 15 yrs now
Crookmeisteren 2 years ago
Only thing brawl 4 all proved was that Bob Holly, Godfather, and Bradshaw cant fight worth shit.
TheRogueHorsemen 2 years ago 11