Honduran coup resistance growing

[Patriot4300212016]

THAT CATHOLIC FAG NEEDS TO SHUT THE FUCK UP! THE REGIME DOES NOT RESPECT THE LIVES OF THE COMMOM MAN!

[Patriot4300212016]

Zelaya looks like a middle eastern anyway. foreigners are the enemy. viva la resistencia compatriotas!

[bill07407]

This was not coup you libturds. This was the legal removal of a law breaking would be dictator.

[Cordero787]

Viva Honduras libre y socialista! Puerto Rico esta contigo y al demonio con los elitistas enemigos del pueblo. Pal carajo con los putos republicanos gringos, gilipollas!!

[choumm35]

Military coup....Made in U.S

[DA2344]

I am Honduran,here in Honduras the majority of people want Zelaya back.

[theanarchist16]

actually firstchino, a new poll has shown that the majority of honduras oppose the coup & want zelaya back. So your claim of "nobody want manuel zelaya back in the power" is completely false. It shows that 52.7% are in support of Zelaya, 17.4% in support of the coup leader, & 29.9% had no response. So yes, the majority do want Zelaya. Just because you support an old section of the constitution doesn't mean that's the majority's personal view as well.

[firstchino]

@theanarchist16 I live here in boston and here are many hondurans if you ask everyone of them they will tell you the same thing as me,,they dont want manuel zelaya back in the presidencial house.

[theanarchist16]

You live within American territory, not Honduras. Sure, maybe the Honduran people in America don't agree with Zelaya, but I can't trust U.S. media & their anti-Latin American revolutionaries view nor how they air it on tv with pure propaganda. The fact of the matter is still that the majority of the people in Honduras have spoken out saying they want Zelaya back. Activists are getting assassinated over there by the U.S. backed coup, dying to bring Zelaya back in power. Long Live Honduras!

[firstchino]

I just believe that honduran constitution should be respected,nobody is above the law not even the president, that referendum was illegal,

[theanarchist16]

The one thing that I've learned from advancing ourselves within history is that we must eliminate our old doctrines & adopt to new ones. Besides, the referendum that was ended was non-binding, & can be altered or abolished without any illegal actions. I find the idea of Zelaya ending the referendum of how long he's in power is a great idea because there shouldn't be a limit to that. It should be up to the people if he stays or gos. And right now, the people want him to stay, so I'm with them.

[theanarchist16]

sorry, mis-said it, it wasn't a referendum he ended, but rather one he brought forth. And you should get a better understanding of what he was doing, which it wasn't illegal: hwillyloman (dot) wordpress (dot) com (slash) 2009 (slash) 06 (slash) 29 (slash) zelayas-referendum-could-not-h­ave-kept-him-in-power (slash)

[theanarchist16]

take the h out that's before the w. Had to put it there so that youtube wouldn't prevent me from distributing a link source.

[firstchino]

are you honduran citizen???because I am,I respect your opinion,but I believe that referendun was illegal,I just hope for the best of all,pepe lobo will do a better job,

[theanarchist16]

no, but I've got friends that live down there, & I respect your opinion as well, but the referendum was clearly not illegal. And this new president will only do the U.S.'s bidding & will do more harm to the people that it will to help them.

[firstchino]

so you probably know the manuel zelaya is anti american,he has two faces because he came here beging for help,when when I know he dont like USA,if we let him stay more time in power he wont do any good to us,as honduran I want to stay here legaly but he is puting our legal status at risk,making friends with terrorists,

[theanarchist16]

hahaha, he's not against America, in itself. He's against the policies that are being implemented by this bull shit government. I live in America & I'm against it. I'm with Latin America when it comes to revolutionizing against the imperialists of U.S. occupation. And I'm sure you're referring to Chavez & Castro as the terrorists right? Chavez & Castro are no terrorists. Though, I'm not a fan much of Castro because of his impatience towards implementing a true socialist economy. Chavez is real!

[firstchino]

ok I got your point you are a comunist,

[Patriot4300212016]

we cannot follow a fucked up law. would you kill innocent children if that was the law? no, i believe you would break that law because it's twisted.

[NORALESCARMEN]

In my opinion i would like to finish with this political situation because we are walking to behind like animal and i would like the development of my country I want peace and obtain the solution favorable for everybody.

[NicosNicosNicosNicos]

That is a noble desire, and in order for that to happen it is necessary for 'everybody' to be able to have a say, as in DEMOCRATIC elections (not the Micheletti farce which is designed, like the Reagan constitution, to restrict democratic participation to keep the poor away from power), even referenda. And RESPECT for results of legitimate elections. Don't you think? Saludos.

[MrDouglas1702]

which growth?

unfortunately that is what the international news says ... but let me tell you who is not true.

I always agreed that people express, but what these people, is about terrorism, I disagree when these people underline walls, hit people, burning cars, bombs explode and remove the quiet of the community.

In my opinion Zelaya return, will not be the solution.

[msmart1975]

Resistance are the same groups of unions of Honduras, some are paid and others are forced to go and work so as not to go into the streets.

Our constitution says we have to protest, but please do not scratch the walls of my mind if any of you I will scratch the wall of my house with paint cost me a sacrifice. Do it if you want to go but please do not scratch the walls, please respect for others.

[alexislevel16]

well I dont Support MEL and MIcheleti but the thing is I feel fear when I heard that in someplaces in my City a lot of people march and they fight with other Brothers Honduran Too. well this situation make feel so blue I m sorry But is true Evereday pray to god peace and love for my country and my family too.

[ROJAyNEGRA36]

Honduras has been used as a training ground for different military, and now of days mercenary groups. many of those who learned how to terrorize and torture their people in Chile Argentina, Guatemala, El Salvador etc etc. learned from the school of the Americas and One of there bigger place for this training was done in Honduras. Now the people elect the sort of left and the military backs the right,with a coup how can you justify that

[ROJAyNEGRA36]

wow This news is not to bad but I see a lot of propagandist leaving comments

[Erickcito2009]

Tolerance! We have to listen people even we desagree with them. I just want to Manuel Zelaya's followers will be peaceful.

[ChoasTheory2000]

This military coup is wrong and the oppression won't be tolerated for long. My heart goes out to the people of Honduras and I hope you hang these power hungry elites in the street once you realize that they have sworn allegiance to international corporations. The elites in Venezuela tried the same thing and the people freed Chavez and retook their country. All you who support this coup are traitors to democracy, your country and should be hung for treason.

[firstchino]

my you dont know nothing about my country,I am honduran and most of our people dont wamt manuel zelaya back in the country,before you make an opinion you have investigate what he did he is not a good guy,

[ChoasTheory2000]

I never said they did want Zelaya did I? Seeing as your the expert on what is going on then, what did Zelaya do that warrented his kidnapping and forced extradition from his home? Maybe I'm wrong seeing as so little information is able to leave hondouras do to the governments sensorship of the media. But I guess that's what a real democracy does, kidnapp leaders, censor the peoples voices and shoot protesters... so please enlighten me if you will.

[firstchino]

zelaya wanted to change the constitution to stay in the power for 4 more years wish was ilegal by the supreme court of justice and by the congress, he continue with referendun without the congress aprove this,he arested and send to costa rica because his life could be in danger.

[ChoasTheory2000]

So holding a referendum to make constitutional changes is against the law? Then that just shows how stupid the laws are to begin with. A referendum isn't a means to deport someone, in true democracies referendums are legal and happen all the time. It sounds like the elite within the government didn't want the people of honduras to change the status quo and therefore staged a military coup. I never said I was on Zeleyas side or the current regime, I'm on the side of democracy.

[firstchino]

if you read our constitution it said the only the presindent can for 4 years onlystay in power, but specify just that,but there a lot of thing that can be changed but not that part,we dint make that constitucion it was our ancestors the wanted to keep that way,

[ChoasTheory2000]

Unjust laws and constituions should always be allowed to be changed by the people it is suppoesed to serve. It sounds like your making excuses to justify the kidnapping and exile of a democratically elected official because he might have threatened the ruling elite of Honduras. That is the story of every banana republic in Central and South America and not of a democratic nation. You need to learn some history before you go supporting such anti-democratic actions. You should go back to Honduras.

[firstchino]

I respect your opinion,but this a free nation,we are a country of laws and the president is not above the law,and 1 more thing who are you to tell me to go back to my countrie,??I am legal resident in the USA,I am just worried about my country future,that is all,if my family say they dont want him back is haz to be for a reazon.

[ChoasTheory2000]

Do you always let your family do your thinking for you? Do you even know what justice or freedom is? Just because you think a law is right doesn't mean it is. Alot of the Portesters aren't even Zeleya supporters, they suport the democratic process. You talk about democracy yet are unwilling to understand it or even fight for it. Instead you sit and tell others they have no knowledge of something you know even less about. If Honduras is your country, then go fight for it like your people are.

[firstchino]

listen I am not gonna waste my time trying to convince you,I went to school in honduras and I know the constitution of my country very well,and if this guy think is going back to the power and turn my countrie like cuba or venezuela I am wiling to go there ang kick his ass myself.

[ChoasTheory2000]

Cuba is a dictatorship and Venezuela is a democracy. How you can even make the comparison it's hilarious... why don't you throw Bolivia and all the other South American country's that are taking back their country from foriegn corporations and CIA trained military backed puppet governments. Most of South Americas constitutions were written by the few wealthy elite that helped maintain U.S. corporate intrest. You are nothing but a mouthpiece for the elite of you country, I hope you realize that.

[ChoasTheory2000]

And before you even try to say Venezuela has political ties and economic ties to Cuba (which it does) so that's why their the same, I assure you that could be said with the U.S. and China or Saudi Arabia... it doesn't make the U.S. a communist or theocratic monarchy does it? That the thing with you neo-cons, you try to argue against something but develope amnesia as soon as facts are presented. I've wasted enough time with you, you keep being a good little sheep and repeating what youv'e heard.

[NicosNicosNicosNicos]

Interesting that former President Ronald Reagan was one of your ancestors.

[NicosNicosNicosNicos]

You realise that if people said "yes" to the referendum, then it would only have an effect AFTER Zelaya had finished his term, so he could not have been re-elected anyway, even if it was a binding vote (which it wasn't)?

[firstchino]

nobody want manuel zelaya back in the power,a referendum to change the constitution to stay in power is ilegal,we shuold keep that way,

[Chindro2828]

it was a non binding ref....dum dum

[nidal38]

Oh my bad I thought this was the "Real News Network"... I didn't realize it was just a play on words and it really is just a fucking JOKE.

[marucrespo]

Payaso, ya han sido muerto y agradedidos mucha gente que intenta demostrar el apoyo a zelaya, y que hace la iglesia metido en politica, por eso no creen en los curas, pedofilos

[yvrgator]

LIES, LIES, LIES! 90% of the Honduran population support the new government as it's Honduras only chance to kee democracy alive. Zelaya is being used by Chavez to expand his New Socialist agenda which systematically destroys all democratic institutions! Long live democracy in Honduras!

[PdishmonkeyJJ]

i hardly believe that..

your probably just from the high bourgoisie that should start to open theyr eyes from time to time

[HondurasmyLove]

Ha Ha Ha...... Most of these people are being paid to go on and march in favor of Zelaya. almost NOBODY wants him (only a few far leftists who have always existed in every country of the world), Zelaya has to pay to be loved (Using Chavez's money of course). I know this for a fact, I know A LOT of people who told me they are only marching for the money. Mel Zelaya, you cannot hide the truth, it will eventually come out, you will be punished for all you have made us suffer.

[pixiedustkim]

YES YES YES!!!! that is all soo true..i know thousands of people who getting paid to go and march in favor of Mel but are totally against his return..some are threatened to be fired from their jobs because they dont march..what kind of injustice is this!

[lamortedarthur]

The Real News, Mel is potential dictator, he had set all in place, those poor bastards in the streets, Mel´s chef earned 1000 dlrs, is this fair!!! Real News are biased, yeah maybe we should start a nuclear program!!!!!!!! Drop a bomb on Chavez' ass!!!!

[csanchez2009]

Note: There are 3 major exporting bananas companies (US owned) operating in Honduras. One of the company United Fruit is notoriously know to support oppression and exploitation to the workers of Latin America. This is MOTIVE! Same people are seeking support the Military Coup.

[osofieroso]

ese padresito de mierda es un infitrado

[starmanskye]

BottomContributor: For someone who claims to be informed, why do you support the Court's arbitrary, politically-motivated decision that directly contradicts law? Why are you uninformed about the initiative's basis in Article 5 of Citizen Participation Act 2006, that specifically authorizes periodic poll consultations to ask public opinion re: policy issues? The referendum asking public if they support voting in Nov. on Congress forming a Constitutional Assembly fully complies w/ Honduran Law.

[TenseAlcyoneus]

starmanskye, you've misstated Honduran law. The Honduran Constitution is clear: only the Congress can call a referendum, any attempt to extend the PResidential term is legally an instant resignation.

Once gain, The Real New has lied. It was not a Military Coup, but an action ordered by the Supreme Court and supported by the Congress.

The Real News simply can't be trusted to tell the truth any more.

[csanchez2009]

TenseAlcyoneus, you've misstated Honduran Law. Article 3, which reads in whole: No one owes allegiance to an usurping government nor those who assume public office via force of arms or utilizing means and procedures that violate or circumvent what is in the Constitution and established by law. The acts taken by such authorities are null. The people have the right to recur to insurrection in order to defend the constitutional order. Yep, its a coup

[TenseAlcyoneus]

Not so.

"ARTICLE 374.- It is not possible to reform, in any case, the preceeding article, the present article, the constitutional articles referring to the form of government, to the national territory, to the presidential period, the prohibition to serve again as President of the Republic, the citizen who has performed under any title in consequence of which she/he cannot be President of the Republic in the subsequent period."

Zelaya's illegal actions made him unqualified for office.

[csanchez2009]

You are not getting it. You are saying its a coup and the Zeleya was well punished. My question to you is where in this wacky constitution that says you can kidnap a president at gunpoint and exile him from his own country? Please elaborate more on your answer.

[TenseAlcyoneus]

csanchez, you are abusing language.

Congress voted UNANIMOUSLY to remove Zelaya from office in the Honduran form of impeachement. When the Supreme Court orders the removal of a person, after the Congress and Supreme Electoral Tribunal bring suit to protect the Constitution from illegal government activity - it's called an ARREST for corruption, not a "kidnapping."

Zelaya's arrest was completely lawful. I think I am getting, csanchez. Why aren't you?

[csanchez2009]

MAN!! ARE YOU DUMB? My question AGAIN! Where in the HOnduras Constitution says you can kidnap (NOT ARREST) and exile a president because he wanted to the people to vote in a non-binding referendum whether there should be an assembly to make changes to the constitution?

[csanchez2009]

You defend this wacky constitution, but yet you contradict yourself. PLEASE READ CAREULLY on Article 3 AGAIN. They basically used Arms to remove him Zeleya and exile him. If anyone in any country of world is arrested, than anyone should have a fair trial. WELL, where is this democracy in that?

[TeslaGenius2]

HonduraCIAs

US is back to "good old"

installing of dictators

[elmachucho]

Hondura!....This is a product of Washinton...CIA,.........Ya que el imperialismo Yankee se esta decinflando,....perdio su hegemonia en el mundo, ya sea INDUSTRIAL,SOCIOCULTURAL Y ECONOMICO JAJAJAJAJA.......

[7jerryv7]

Sure

[elmachucho]

Maten a este bombero de la revolucion, Jajajaja Siempre La puta iglesia y sus esbirror al lado del rico y de las fuerzas reprecivas, ese no es ningun argumento, Todos los cambiios sociales se han hecho ala fuerza,

[cathar11]

This was without doubt a coup. Michelotti who replaced Zelaya was the speaker of Congress and not the next in line. who is the Vice President--Aristides Mejia.

Michelotti was beaten as candidate for his party in the November election.

There was tremendous dfisinformation leading up to the Coup as Zelaya wasnt participating as a candidate in November's election.

[7jerryv7]

I am not sure where the meme came from that this was not a coup.  I am not sure anybody, with the exception of the bishop, believes this is a problem - with the exception of the coup leaders.

For instance, one person noted that Obama did not call this a coup. This is incorrect - he did call it a coup.

[charliebarosio]

El pueblo unido

jamas sera vencido!

[charliebarosio]

The Catholic church, that paedophilia abomination shows its colors as the Arch Bishop stands with the car thieving drug running CIA sponsored military scum that have shown what they think about the will of the people. The Honduran church has shown how far it is from the liberal theology and humanism of Arnolfo Romero of El Salvador who died for his beliefs when these thugs were busy with John Black & Decker Negroponte's master plan 2 decades ago. Long live Zelaya and the Bolivarian revolution.

[Okhlopkov]

Long live Zeleya and the popular movement in Honduras! i really hope they can get rid of that fascist micheletti and his gang of schemers.. and i hope they can reinstate popular control over military and police.

[walkwalkslow]

So barely 1 in 4 support the guy but the slant of the report is that everyone wants his return...

What if he was successful in changing the Constitution and basically became leader for life? Seems to me loyalties and convictions are changing depending on what questions are asked.

It also seems as if the people's gov't acted on their behalf, but may have went a little far beyond what was necessary.

[AbtinX]

It's not about that, the people don't want a military dictatorship in their country

[StinkingHombre]

The don't have a military dictatorship!

[UKLooney]

Democracy is great. Just wait until your followers out number theirs, then just steal all their stuff.

[starmanskye]

I'm gratified to note most commenters here are informed, don't buy mass-media BS about Zelaya being a wannabe dictator importing Communism -- the issue is SO different. Actually, for all the hostility by Honduran elites against Zelaya he has been a moderate reformer only able to implement modest change, blocked by entrenched elites who wield power behind the scenes. I don't understand why ordinary people actively HATE Zelaya, tho oligarchy despise him for encouraging popular political activism.

[rspawn]

"I don't understand why ordinary people actively HATE Zelaya, tho oligarchy despise him for encouraging popular political activism."

explanation: the oligarchy is rich enough to buy media to influence opinion of ordinary people.

[jrod2211]

I'd like to hear some commentary on this from Pepe Escobar. Whaddya say TRN?

[ManFaded]

I'd also like to point out that I've seen bigger tea party rallys

[zebb1111]

If there was a military coup in a country with us bases, you can be sure that behind closed doors, Obama supports the coup.

wake up America!

[starmanskye]

zebb1111: I don't think Obama has any more political relevance than Bush did re: foreign policy -- But I concede the Pentagon & State Dept. secretly support Zeleya's removal, tho they probably wished a less high-profile, controversial means than this coup. Clearly, US has continuing interest in backing repressive regimes that limit the spread of progressive social democratic movements ie. Chavez & Bolivarian Revolution, it shows the hypocrisy of US style 'democracy' via corporatism aka fascism.

[zebb1111]

I agree with you about Obama.

I was just refering to the american government in a way that most people could understand. this is youtube and people are looking to the mayans for information overhere. loll

[COUNTCARDULAR]

lol ' THAT VATICAN AGENT PAEDOPHILE PREIST.. THE VATICAN IS GOING DOWN!!! THE WHORE OF BABAYLON

[AndrewMann552]

Long live the Honduran workers!

Long live the Honduran resistance!

Down with the fascist coup!

[barlog20]

Yeahhhhhhhh,overthrow the U.S puppet bastard.

[EmeterioBetances]

Reports are coming out the Roberto Micheletti has got a price on his head. Reports are coming out that in everY jail in Latin America and else where that Roberto Micheletti and his closest friends all have a price on there heads.

[LoveAmericaStyle]

Google Jeff Fisher Politico

Now for an update

This is not just NYC

Its 25 major cites in America

NYC is the smallest contingent of American Patriots following the word of Tom Heneghan.

TREASON in America MUST STOP NOW!!!!

I pray all the time for peace but the Jews(AIPAC, Mossad, Zionists) controlling America want to continue the lies of George W Bush.

How many more soldiers are going to die in the MiddleEast due to BayPoint School & its Direct connection to AIPAC?

Jeff Bootstraps Fisher

[jokerbookshop]

power to the people!

[TainaAtheist1]

It's great to see people taking over sovereignty of their own countries: first, Iran; now, Honduras. Maybe the world is turning the corner into a new age of englightenment.

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[global2012]

don't forget when peru's native people went against there government.When the peruvian government wanted to take there land they rebelled ,and just didn't let them take it.

[Renegen1]

fucking coups, I hate this. Remember the people organizing the coup are ALREADY rich, they simply don't want less people starving, they don't want competition, or to share a little bit of their wealth. This makes me so sick, and of course the US is predictably supporting the coup.

Just because you support freedom doesn't mean you shouldn't be organized. People of all countries need a plan, or else they will be ruled by a dictator.

[BottomContributor]

You're a moron. Zelaya was removed because he kept violating the constitution. This is not like an attack out of nowhere. He was warned SEVERAL times that he was violating the constitution and that an arrest warrant was to be put on him if he kept it up. The only thing that Honduras did wrong was not put him in jail instead of kicking him out.

[StonewallDVGM]

Yep.

[Renegen1]

So military coups are justified, is that what you're saying? He was kicked out over a non binding referendum for God's sake! How is that against the constitution. Tell me who Zelaya supported and who the military coup who threatens violence is supporting.

[ManFaded]

You sound like just another blissfully ignorant that can't conceptually grasp the idea of law and the adhering thereof

[starmanskye]

ManFaded: Before condemning someone's respect for 'law', don't you want to get your facts straight? The 'non-binding referendum' Zelaya promoted, backed by many social justice groups, was an opinion poll consultation specifically authorized by Article 5 of Civilian Participation Act 2006, as means for public to express their opinion on specific policy issues of gov. Zelaya tried to increase political participation of masses who live in grinding poverty & are marginalized--That was his 'crime'.

[BottomContributor]

This was not a military coup. The military was doing what was ordered to them by the congress and supreme court. The referendum was illegal. How can it be illegal? Because the constitution of Honduras says so, explicitly. However, this wasn't the only thing. He tried on several occasions to change the constitution directly. Ballots of the referendum were seized for being illegal and he broke in and stole them with a group of his supporters.

[BottomContributor]

You're just another moron who can't understand that the Honduran constitution is not the same as the US constitution. The Honduran constitution explicitly says that anyone who at the least proposes a change of that law (non binding referendum counts) and isn't the congress itself, needs to be kicked out immediately. And no, there is no impeachment process according to Honduran law. It's straight arrest and being kicked out of office.

[Renegen1]

What brilliant arguments, I am ignorant about the Honduran constitution. Let's pretend there exists such draconian measures over a non-binding referendum (wow, really trying to change something there). Why is his plane not allowed to land? Why is the army threatening violence? WHY ARE PEOPLE OF ALL PARTIES MARCHING FOR DEMOCRACY ON THE STREET. Afterall, aren't they all good Honduran citizen who should know their constitution?

[BottomContributor]

I don't know if my comments are posting. I tried to copy the law that states that even proposing the reform of the term limits is grounds for this action. If you're fair, you'll admit this goes back further than just the referendum.

Don't act as if all of Honduras is against this. There are plenty in the country that are for it. You also fair to acknowledge that Honduras is a Republic and not a Democracy.

[starmanskye]

IF Zelaya tried to reform term limits, he'd be in violation of law. But he didn't. READ the initiative: It asked the voters if they were agreeable to a new Constitution being drafted. This would then have to be approved by Congress, with formation of a Constitutional Assembly composed of all political parties, public groups & interests, with new constitution drafted correcting systemic flaws, and THEN be voted on by public. It would take years. Meanwhile Zelaya's office is up on Jan

26, 2010.

[BottomContributor]

I have read the initiative. The initiative was ruled unconstitutional as well by the entire congress and the supreme court. The Lawyers guild agrees that it is illegal. Your petty understanding of Honduran law doesn't trump the many experts.

[BottomContributor]

They are trying to keep him from landing because it'll ensue bloodshed. The military is not threatening violence. The military is simply acting in response to violence. If they really wanted violence, there would be more than 1 person dead. And I wish all Hondurans knew their constitution. Unfortunately, that's not the case. Others simply disregard it.

[BottomContributor]

Look at this video: watch?v=maMA3PTYoZE

[Renegen1]

Thanks for not answering my question. Guess you conceded defeat.

[huckteeper]

Oh, so the fact that the rich parasites have benefited from this coup is just a coincidence? By the way, calling people morons while hiding behind internet anonymity isn't terribly brave, is it?

[BottomContributor]

Honestly, they have not benefited. The country is not able to produce and gain profit right now the way it was. Either way, they have elections going in about 5 months. The guy was going to be out anyway. I will gladly call you a moron to your face if the opportunity presents itself.

[huckteeper]

Now that I'd like to see :)

[gesellschaft]

If I caught that right; Big props to the police for leaving immediately in protest to the killing of a protester my the military.

[ojosasixoxo]

This military coup d'état goes against the Constitution for one. I don't agree a lot with Zelaya NOR I like the guy much, but there are other alternatives to do this.This coup d'état was lead by Ramon Vasques graduate of the school of the Americas.

I will not recognized Roberto Micheletti as a president because this whole coup d'état was planned/organized and a democratic-elected president was overthrown. The US has a good reputation for installing puppets into countries

[lfag1206]

Send blue berets here.. please!

[nasanction]

Notice the police look the same as here? For that matter, all the democratized countries do... Is there something to this?

[7jerryv7]

Police training is universal. Tactics and strategies are the same. For instance, you find the same tacticts and weapons were used to put down soccer hooligans in the UK.

It is like SWAT. Most advanced industrialized countries adopted United States methods.

[nasanction]

Seems real fishy to me...

Thanks for the response!

[7jerryv7]

Not sure where you are going with this...don't see how it is fishy.

[nasanction]

I guess I just see it as the war machine at work.

[7jerryv7]

Oh, by the way -

President Obama condemned the coup, saying: I think it would be a terrible precedent if we start moving backwards into the era in which we are seeing military coups as a means of political transition, rather than democratic elections.

[Xenu]

Cause you know, Rush Limbaugh is so concerned with Honduran democracy. Obama's condemnation is merely superficial just like everything else that comes out of his mouth. The New York Times last week quoted an anonymous US official saying that US Ambassador Hugo Llorens & Assistant Secretary of State for Western Hemisphere Affairs Thomas A. Shannon, Jr. spoke to military officials and opposition leaders." in the days before the coup.

[Xenu]

... There was talk of how they might remove the president from office, how he could be arrested, on whose authority they could do that... So, in other words, the U.S. was planning the removal of power of Zelaya. Hillary Clinton has said that any settlement has to take into account the underlying causes of the coup. Thus blaming Zelaya.

[Xenu]

This Friday's "Washington Post" : "Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton declined to call the action a coup—in hopes of bringing Zelaya back into government but with wings clipped." And there is nothing paranoid about the US using a client state for subversion. The US used Honduras as a base for the 1954 CIA coup that toppled Guzmán in Guatemala & the US terrorist proxy war against Nicaragua int the 80s. The US was involved in three previous coups in Honduras, in 1955, 1963 and 1972.

[7jerryv7]

No, you said:

"The Obama administration has refused even to formally declare Zelayas ouster at gunpoint a coup, claiming it is studying the situation"

WONG! You said Obama did not call it a coup.

They did speak with the coup leaders before the coup to try to head it off. This is NOT a secret that you found through you sifting through newspaper articles but something that is known.

Many, you just keep digging...and digging...and digging. I look forward to your next comment.

[Xenu]

You haven't refuted a single one of my statements. The Obama administration has not officially called it a coup, like I said. The US tried to head off the coup? Absurd. It is public that the U.S. ambassador & Assistant Secretary of State were there with the opposition & military to get rid of Zelaya. Whether they wanted a coup or wanted him simply arrested we do not know but the NYTs has made it official that the US was planning Zelaya's removal.

[7jerryv7]

THat is the point - he has. Obama has directly called it a coup. No, he has not gone cowboy and shown up with guns blazing, but he has called it a coup. This is not the 1980's.

[Xenu]

Latin American forces should carefully consider forming an international invasion force. Allowing the military coup to stand would allow counterrevolutionary forces a base from which to organize and operate to undermine the burgeoning waves of popular democracy in the South (perhaps similar to the U.S.-Chilean terrorist Operation Condor.)...

[Xenu]

... The U.S. provides 70% of Honduras' export market. If the Obama Administration wanted to get rid of new dictatorship they could quite easily. It wouldn't surprise me if the plan is to turn Honduras into another obedient client-state ala Columbia.

[7jerryv7]

Counter-democracy movement? I think this is a little too paranoid. Fact is nations are taking the right, non-violent steps. Violence should be the last resourt.

You should also judge Obama by what he is and has done. Rush Limbaugh criticized Obama 4 days after the innaguration.

[Xenu]

The Obama administration has refused even to formally declare Zelayas ouster at gunpoint a coup, claiming it is studying the situation. This is a thinly disguised ploy to avoid cutting off military aid & imposing other sanctions against the coup regime, which it is required to do under a US law prohibiting such ties to a government installed through the military overthrow of an elected leader. Thus, Obama is supporting the military coup.

[7jerryv7]

You will have to provide sources. I see official denunciation of the coup by the Obama administration and can provide links. Can you do the same? Or did you hear this from Rush Limbaugh?

[7jerryv7]

The Bishop is the only person in the world that supports the coup. Wow.

[Xenu]

Fascism should no longer be tolerated in Latin America. The progressive forces should consider forming a military plan of attack.

[Zao125]

only when all else fails

[1140Cecile]

Power to the people fighting to bring back democracy in Honduras. The military should NEVER be the deciding power behind who will form government. I encourage soldiers to disobey their superiors and join the people to restore democracy in your country.

[cyberspy034]

F you "real" news. Stop your biased bullcrap.