Republicans are so stingy and prudish when it comes to comedy. They will laugh their asses off at an impersonator making racist jokes, but when it comes to a Mormon joke about Romney heaven forbid...
Wow. So it's cool when he makes fun of Obama but it's not funny when he makes fun of Republicans. Though I do understand because it was at a Republican debate. Still they shouldn't have removed him for that. A joke is a joke.
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So, him making fun of his race was met with applause and laughter from the conservative audience, but when he directed his jokes toward political opponents, the crowd had enough? Seems like you Republicans can dish it out, but can't take it back.
Coal was everything. Commerce and people would've died with no resolution to the dispute. So he forced them to settle it; and that definitely was how TR rolled- far from a principled man, no doubt lol.
"My belief was that it was not only his right but his duty to do anything that the needs of the nation demanded unless such action was forbidden by the Constitution..."
Coolidge is probably the most underrated President though, save for Polk.
Flat tax might work if the spending is dashed- but sadly Congress is COMPLETELY top to bottom corrupt as all hell. They have 14% approval. FOURTEEN! That is our primary problem- not Obama. What Obama has managed despite that shit-show is fairly impressive.
According to Warren Buffet, 17% is about what he paid in income taxes- half the rate of any of his staff of 20, who of course were paying at least double that rate. We need a new tax CODE. Too many Richie Rich loopholes.
He and News media proclaims he was pulled off for making too many remarks, but when I watched it the audience seemed to like it though the sound is cut off just when he starts to talk about bachmann. So I lipped synced that part of the video to find out he was mouthing out a joke about her being "racist". Not that I think it would be a big deal to her "supporters", but I believe if it wouldn't have any actual impact on how she's viewed the RLC wouldn't have kept it a secret.
People people people, calm down... the fact is, and this is an actual fact not an opinion, americans aren't as educated as they SHOULD be in politics and quite frankly dont care enough to do proper research in their politicians. This truly is a country for the people and by the people, however, when the people arent active and concerned enough to serve each others REAL needs then the result is what we have now. Low quality politics and shady deals because of lack of transparency and regulation..
They had every right to kick him out, it's their show. But they ARE being pussies, and worse yet- the whole "Racial joke" cop out excuse at the end was ridiculous. Just admit you didn't appreciate his jabs at the GOP so you booted him out.
they're oversensitive. i like how people got offended when he joked about obama's biracial heritage... because this guy is half black and half white himself.
"Don't get me wrong, he might make a great president. Along with his first lady, uhhhh, second lady, annnnd third lady." If you dont get the joke, Mitt Romney is a mormon, a religion that claims to be christian despite allowing multiple marriages and claiming that if you are born black, then God cursed you. So, you know a little more about mitt romney....
@BassGuitarGuy128 You talking about wright? The difference is, Obama denounced the shit wright said, and wright only started to talk that way when Obama became well known. But romney has yet to denounce being a mormon, and they do still support polygamy, AND, they still claim that if you are any other race than white, then God cursed you. Go figure about mormons, at least other religions pretend to give a damn about morality....
Denounced what he said? Then why did Obama chose him to be his reverend? Why would Obama listen to his preachings if he disagreed with them? What would the point of that be? Obama denounced what Wright said because Wright's ideology was revealed, so Obama tried to squeeze his way out of it. Quit making these BS excuses for Obama.
The Mormon congregation denounced polygamy in the late 1800's. And there are black mormons. Why would you chose a religion of they said you were cursed?
I don't know what else to do, sir. I told you unadulterated facts, but you ignore them because they reveal how radical Obama really is. And then you just start throwing out spineless, unfounded insults like a fourth grader.
How am I supposed to argue with an immature, biased fool?
Unemployment with black people in American have increased since Obama has been in office.Abortion among blacks have also increased under Obama.TY Obama.
Obama voters are so stupid.Every democrat have implied that I am republican because I don't like Obama.I am a independent voter sho doesn't vote for the republican or democrat party but every democrat implies that if you are against Obama, you must be a republican.I conclude that democrats are dumber than republicans
@Gregospinky no. i just used logic and common sense, neither of which you seem to be very good at. if you're going to directly quote someone, you might want to actually USE WHAT THEY SAID. i exposed you and your bullshit and now your grasping at straws to try and worm your way out of it to make it seem like you can form a coherent thought. obviously you can't. oh and thanks for throwing me in with the liberals. because if i disagree with you, there's no other side i could POSSIBLY belong to.
Preisdent are marketing tools to bring the public to vote because if people knew the truth.....They would stop the vote and begin practicing the second amendment instead.
I wish republicans and Democrats who are not politicians would stop hating on one another because in the end you are both being screwed by the government
I went to see one of these residential centers that was on jesse show and they are real and they do look like prisons but no one will call them that.African Americans and Jews are being targeted more than anyone else in America
I hate Obama. Him and the rest of the Democrats would crucify Bush over the Patriot Act yet he signs an extension for it. Fucking hypocrites. RON PAUL 2012
Libertarianism = Anarchy for rich people. The past has shown that smaller government does not work. It will NEVER catch on with the populace (thank lord Jebus for that). No matter how much you lobby for Ron Paul. The polls showed it last time and they show it now. When most of your voters believe in Alternate Dimension Reptiles and 9/11 "truth" -- it's time to stick a fork in it.
@MaMudkipzIsTrollin The polls show Ron Paul winning. =) Should we not get out of the Middle East? Isn't the Patriot Act unconstitutional? Big government doesn't work either. I guarantee you the rest of the candidates will only do the same. Now you're trying to discredit me by saying Ron Paul's supporters are "conspiracy theorists" despite wanting smaller government so fuck you.
@MaMudkipzIsTrollin The straw poll in Iowa and the CPAC straw poll in the link below. Ron Paul supporters want smaller government and you resort to call us conspiracy theorists in your comment? You're an a-hole who probably wants the same government we have. How about you fuck off. Instead of debating me with facts you call Ron Paul supporters "believers in alternate dimension reptiles". You lose if this was even a debate at all but win at trolling.
@elr456 I obviously hit a nerve when I mentioned conspiracy theories, so it seems that you are pretty aware that MOST of his supporters believe in some of these things. There are no polls to support what I'm saying, but going by Youtube and the copius amounts of Ron Paul related conspiracy videos -it's pretty obvious. At this point you're only lying to yourself.
You also didn't mention 9/11 in either one of your posts. Are you a "truther", by any chance?
@HUMANSAREBENEATHME Preisdent are marketing tools to bring the public to vote because if people knew the truth.....They would stop the vote and begin practicing the second amendment instead.
I wish republicans and Democrats who are not politicians would stop hating on one another because in the end you are both being screwed by the government
As a Republican I am ambarrassed by what happened here. The leadership has become so thin-skinned when it comes to race. I saw the comments he made about 1/2 of February and it was funny but no where near over the top. Ever listen to Stephanie Miller? Black comedians get rediculous. GOP leadership, man-up dammit!
@earlyhemibill I think it might've been the jokes about Republican candidates rather than Obama's race, something I don't think. It was kinda brutal but I don't think it's fair how some Republican politicians talk about morals and values and then go through women like hamburgers.
Respond to this video... Clinton bombed brown people,Bush jr bombed brown people and Obama has bombed brown people.All three should be tried in court since all 3 likes to bomb brown people
Does anyone still actually believe that A American President can be impeached.LoL Clinton=not impeached Bush Jr=not impeached Obama who is Bush Jr Buddy behind closed doors=not impeached Conclusion The Government is to strong and the two parties you vote for our destroying America Vote for anyone but a democrat or republican Why NOT BRING WILL CHANGE
Nixon almost certainly would've been removed from office had he not resigned- and in the cases of both Clinton and Johnson- say what you will about the men themselves, both impeachments were 100% political and the charges themselves were very flimsy.
well, first off, he wasn't taken down because he criticized the GOP. The assholes backstage thought that one of his jokes was racially insensitive. I noticed how the up loader put that in the description box but not in the title in order to make it seem like the Republicans can't take a joke. second, someone would be bitching about this if he hadn't been taken off stage. You just can't win in the liberal controlled media.
@Gregospinky that's not an actual quote of what i said, but ok. put words in my mouth. i was implying that he was responsible for giving the order. i was hoping common sense would play a part in your decision making on that one. i gave you too much credit. and i'm not speaking, i'm typing. these are words on a computer, they're not actually coming out of my mouth. there's a difference between the two. if you'd like me to explain it, i'd be more than happy to.
@Gregospinky I never said Obama should get full and complete credit for the whole deal, I'm saying he was involved in it. No he didn't pull the trigger, but gave the orders to do so. The same applies to Truman. So yes he was involved in it. You're saying he "didn't do a thing". Which is incorrect. No need to go all apeshit because you're wrong. Assclown.
@GrassValleyGreg I don't think republicans can beat Obama because they're not willing to do what Obama's willing to do. Barry loves to suck George Soros' package!!! Barry loves to suck Richard Trumka's package!!! And he loves to suck Andy Stern's package!! BARRY LOVES WHITE MEN!!!
Seriously- who of that laughing stock of a litter is going to beat Obama? At the end of the day, GOP CAUSED this mess, AND would rather obsess about birth certificates than actually fixing it.
I asked first. But hey, I'll humor you. Unemployment is down 1% from it's peak (from the recession that Bush and the GOP caused, I might add), and has been declining since Oct. 09. And Osama bin Laden is dead. There's two actual specifics- in case you were unclear on the definition. You gonna quit being a pussy now, or what?
@GrassValleyGreg obama had little to do with osama's death. Bush was the one that started the search for him in the first place. Also you are completely wrong about the unemployment. Since he was elected 3 million morepeople are unemployed. Also he added two trillion dollars of debt. You just got served.
Bush TRIED and failed to find bin laden. So what if he started the search? Eight years and never found his ass! Obama did- in 3. GW had jack shit to do with it.
Also- he entered office during Bush's recession. In October 09, the Unemployment was at 10%, It has been steadily declining ever since and is now closer to 9%. There have been more months of decline in unemployment than increase. So if you reread my post you will see I'm not wrong it all "Ye who supposedly served me'
And Bush and the GOP controlled congress added 5 trillion to the debt- and I don't remember hearing a peep at the time. In fact, not only were they spending all of that money on fool-hearty wars- they were cutting the taxes of billionaires and not bring any money in. But now Obama spends 2 trillion HERE in the US to help OUR economy and save OUR country and what do we get from the TeaBaggers?
Bitch, Bitch, Bitch. Obama could cure cancer and you would still bitch up a storm.
@GrassValleyGreg bush was in office 8 years about 4 times longer than obama has do the math: 2 X 4= 8 obama is aiming to add 8 trilion dollars of debt where Bush did 5. Besides this has nothing to do with bush, the debt obama adds is not helping the u.s clearly as unemployment has increased. This is too easy you have no solid arguements
Firstly: Bush had NOTHING to do with Bin Ladens death, in fact in the eight years he was president, we KNEW Bin Laden had fled to Pakistan, in fact the left that you would call Libtards or the leftist machine knew this as well, even people like Keith Olbermann stated that "Bin Laden is now living, unmolested in Pakistan." (Countdown Special Comment 12 years in 12 minutes. Towards the end. Look It Up) And apparently you and Mrs Palin can't take the truth.
And secondly, Bush's final financial action was to pass the TARP, wanna know what that was, The First Bank Bailout he passed it with no transparency and it was later found some of the money used went to office remodelings and for raises, that Socialism crap started because Obama gave them a SECOND bailout when the country was using words like "Too big to fail" And he demanded transparency. But hot damn the right-wing sure likes to forget about that first bailout don't they?
And you're assuming that Obama will spend that much at every 2 year interval- which you're basing on nothing. Bush added 2 trillion in his first term then 3 trillion in his second. Obama's first term has just over a year left- so he's not far off GW's pace actually. And again, the money was spent HERE- not in the middle east on two ill-conceived wars. It has everything to do with Bush and the GOP- it was HIS deregulation and HIS spending that caused this whole thing.
@GrassValleyGreg ahaha now you're contradiciting yourself, You congratulated obama for taking down osama(which he had little to do with) yet are mad at bush for spending money in the middle east you are a hypocrite. Also Bush didn't cause the recession in case you didn't know there are too many causes to say, but do yourself a favor and google freddie mac and fannie mae
So TOTAL war in TWO countries was necessary to take down one man?! Obama suggested he was in Pakistan way back during the primaries! If you think the Commander-in-Chief of the US Military had little to do with an special military operation to take down the world's most wanted man- you're a moron. It was not luck.
And deregulation caused the financial crisis. Wall Street gambled and lost big. And who pushed deregulation? Hank Paulson and the GOP. Same guys who brought you TARP.
@GrassValleyGreg you watch too much micheal moore. if you think the war was only for bin laden you are an idiot. Hundreds of thousands of innocent people were being massacred. such as hussein and the kurds. What i'm saying is the operation to go after binny was in effect b4 obama. I notice you keep changing the subject and you have let to say any 'good' things obama has done in his presidency
Of course the war wasn't only for Bin Laden- but you are giving Bush credit for Bin Laden's death because of the War, which is complete nonsense. There are plenty of bad guys on planet earth. We are not the World Police and should not be nation building.
And I mentioned two specific goods that have happened during Obama's presidency. I'm the one who asked the fucking question and you've yet to give me a SINGLE specific negative. Time to pay up, or fuck off dude. Seriously.
Lol Ok Captain Cop Out. And no- you thought you had proven my statement false, but I demonstrated you were wrong on both counts. You cannot provide a single specific negative other than deficit, which every president since Jackson has raised. You are a typical hate spewing, narrow minded ditto head tea bag that can't think for themselves. Time to fuck off, I'm afraid.
@GrassValleyGreg Again it is impossible to prove that he hasn't done anything good which is what I am saying. The onus is on you idiots to show what good he has done. U have said 2 things. One that he reduced unemployment, which is completely false, and the other that he caught Osama even though the operation was in effect before him. Try actually adding something to your side of the arguement because right now you are just making obama look worse
No, .I did NOT say unemployment has reduced- I said there have been more months of gains than losses, which is true, and it's down 1% from it's peak from Oct 09, which is also true. When he took office, unemployment was skyrocketing. You teabags seem to forget Obama was handed a bigger shit sandwich than any other President to ever take office. Two total wars and a depression! As for Osama- prove that the operation in PAKISTAN was in effect before Osama took office. It wasn't.
Oh, and "That IS a negative, he's done nothing good." is the biggest cop out ever, dude. You can't name one bill? One policy? Not one single specific for all of the noise you make about it. Which pretty much makes you typical, actually.
@GrassValleyGreg dude, he's done more bad than good, and he's accumulated more debt than any other president....COMBINED!!!! Obama sucks, he's not a good president and he needs to leave office, and we CAN'T KEEP ACCUMULATING DEBT!!! China? they want their money back. Yea, he's been handed a bad situation, given that, but we have to be conservative, not keep spending! Stimulus package was a complete failure because it mostly went to unproductive causes, and the hc reform wasn't even reform!
The Stimulus was NOT a complete failure- Unemployment's down 1% since a year and a half ago- and if anything it wasn't big enough. Not to mention HALF of it was TAX CUTS. We've been accumulating debt since Andrew Jackson- and if you look at a chart- the only time it ever settles down is during Democratic administrations. In the end, we have to stop these mindless tax cuts. They are helping a very small fraction of the country in the long run. The promised jobs just aren't there.
@phil198711 NO, HC REFORM WASN'T REFORM BECAUSE IT DIDN'T SOLVE ANY OF THE PROBLEMS WITHIN THE HC SYSTEM WE CURRENTLY HAVE!! how is forcing everyone to get medical insurance solving the bigger issues within it?? the issue isn't just the medical insurance companies! the biggest issue are the prices of medications in this nation! you want reform? regulate the pharmacies...but of coarse that will never happen, because the government won't get taxes out of that...and they are in their back pockets
@GrassValleyGreg it's not just repubs, it's both repubs and dems...no one has ever brought up the idea of regulating the pharmacies...NOBODY! People like you and I have, but no one in higher power. Take a hard lesson here, you give people power, and they will take it. As long as the big pharmas are handin out bribes to our politicians, and we continue to have corrupt politicians to take those bribes, our problems will never be solved.
Thing is- you don't have to bribe a Repub to get them to adamantly speak out against regulation- especially with the crazy pack of newbies that essentially run the party now. I will agree that the Obama administration has been short on the promised "Change"- but he's had to fight hard to get even what he's gotten, and that is because of the Blue Dogs (who were almost to a man removed from office in 2010) and the GOP, who have not really allowed anything effective to happen.
@GrassValleyGreg well, think of it like this, what's worse? GOP not needing bribes to regulate? or democrats trying to come up with regulations in reasons to obtain bribes? either way, it's all crooked. I think that fighting upstairs needs to quit happening and some comprimise has to be made to help the currently struggling Americans out.
Well, If lack of regulation is the key problem, I would submit that the group who universally opposes regulation in principle is worse; but indeed it is the greater of two evils. But Obama is trying to compromise- that's ALL he's done for 3 years and I would argue that's his main problem. Compromise is a two way game- but that's not how it's been playing out during his term. Debt Ceiling is only the latest example- and really the first where Obama's put his foot down in any sense.
@GrassValleyGreg i know this was a while ago, but the debt ceiling plan was a complete joke, there were no real cuts involved, just lowering the increased spending. Spending needs to stop, period, not just be lowered. And if you think obama cares about you and me, you better start thinkin twice. This guy cares more about other countries in the middle east and the illegal immigrants here than the actual taxpayers of this nation. You actually thinks he can stop the fighting in the mideast? com'on
lmao NO ONE can stop the fighting in the Middle East- which is why it was stupid to go over there, *George*. Obama has no interest in fighting- we were just THERE on two fronts when he took office. While it'd be sweet if we could just yank the plug on that whole mess- we can't. The debt ceiling WAS a joke- but once again I think Congress is to blame for that. As for caring more about foreign countries and immigrants- I'll need a "for instance" before I can even address that one.
@GrassValleyGreg Obama has not interest in fighting there? than why did he go into Libya? explain that one, and no congress was not the only blame for debt ceiling bill, HE DIDN'T HAVE TO SIGN THE BILL, but he did! And what good has this guy done for the taxpayers of this nation besides raise their tax rates and create a bigger defecit for them to pay off?
I didn't agree with the Libya invasion- but I still see a major difference between a humanitarian effort (which Libya clearly is) and Iraq, of which the entire premise of the hasty invasion proved to be false.
Obama would've taken a HUGE political gamble by vetoing the Debt ceiling bill. Too many unknowns with a default.
Obama extended the Bush tax cuts, so tax rates have not gone up. He got smokers and tanners- but I say good on that one. The reality is we NEED more revenue.
@GrassValleyGreg ok, completely wrong on the fact that they need more revenue, no, im sick of giving these guys my tax dollars and having put it toward places it doesn't belong! They got revenue, just putting it toward useless, unproductive shit! If we didn't pay out so much money toward taking care of illegals, abuse of welfare and unemployment, food stamps, etc. (and by doin this, your practically telling these people "it's ok, you don't have to work and be responsible, we'll pay your way!)
@GrassValleyGreg they would have money! oh, but ok? it's ok to invade because it's humanitarian?? no, that's bullshit! Let them fight their own fight, what's goin on down there is not our fight nor our business! We have to start worrying about america over anyone else starting now! And the tax cut deal? he only did that because he knew he had no choice! We are supposed to be the saviors of the world?? come on now! we got a lot of problems in this nation, by sayin that, you look pretty damned dum
I said didn't agree with the Libya invasion- So I don't think I look that dumb. I think you look pretty damn dumb by claiming tax rates have gone up when they haven't. He did extend the cuts under protest, (extending unemployment was the issue, you'll recall), nonetheless, taxes aren't up. And Obama was never going to raise the average American's taxes- he never indicated he would, and in fact he ALWAYS indicated he wouldn't. This is just some of that classic GOP fear mongering.
@GrassValleyGreg ok, with the hc reform, tax rates are goin up, how else would that all get paid for really? And i'm not GOP, i'm just giving you the reality...i don't like the republican party either, trust me, i guess you could say i'm one of those "tea-partyers"...do they indicate the tax rates in checks? no, it's all tax rates rising in the IRS rates (see? this is where they get people)...wealthy people by themselves cannot completely pay off obamacare...
We need more frugality, but pork comes from congress- and when they spend months and months fighting over every issue- Obama almost HAS to sign what comes because it's marginally better than nothing.
Putting the rates back to the Clinton era levels isn't asking wealthy people to completely pay off anything. There is no evidence that Reaganomics works- everyone just WANTS it to. But clearly all we've done in the last 30 years is make the rich richer and create an enormous bubble.
@GrassValleyGreg right, and what obama is suggesting is the Keynsian theory (if you put out a dollar into the economic bubble, it will return more back into the system), if you remember your history well, they already tried that in 1920s...it did not work because businesses started spending money that they did not have in reality (remember, that money is only theirs temporarily until it's spent)...the stimulus package, that was all just temporary jobs to certain skilled people (Keynsian Theory)
@GrassValleyGreg and plus reaganomics did work in statistically in creating jobs and economic growth (something we can use)...during his presidency, he had a 7% economic growth and unemployment under 4% after it being up at 12%! And if the wealthy get wealthier, so what? doesn't phase me...I've personally never been hired by a poor person, and a lot of people can safely say that, like it or not, it's the wealthy people who create and expand businesses and jobs, and obama wants to hinder them
The wealth distribution in this country is the worst it's been in almost 100 years. The top 20% own 85% of the assets. The bottom 40 own nothing or are in the red. And polls show that the VAST majority of Americans think that it's too lopsided. And it's this very idea that you kind of hinted at that troubles me- the disappearance of the middle class- it's either rich or poor. GHWB was right- it's Voodoo Economics- and it made "rags to riches" so to speak a virtual impossibility.
@GrassValleyGreg YOu just can't use the words wealth and distribution in the same sentence. Eveyone in America has the freedom to use their heads and accumulate wealth, the fact that a smaller percentage are wealthy speaks for itself. And the simple math that the wealthiest own the lions share is kindergarten, it's only logical.
But the theory is that if the wealthy have more, which we GIVE them through these tax cuts, they hire more. But they have more money now than ever, both relative and absolute, so our current situation with unemployment then doesn't make sense. That's because this idea that people who spend less than they bring in (that's how they got rich), will just spend, spend, spend to hire people regardless of whether there's any demand is nonsense. Clinton era tax rates are HARDLY socialistic.
@GrassValleyGreg .First off; tax cuts never made anybody rich, and the wealthy do not have more because of tax cuts, it’s just a fabricated mode of thought. There are always ways to fine-tune and manage money to profit the most, and wealthy people are usually patient and manage future earnings well. If not somebody does it for them. Secondly; the thought that they hire more with more tax cuts is ludicrous to say the least.
@GrassValleyGreg Tax rates will never make the U.S. strong economically, and giving to the least only creates a larger poverty base. There is only one thing that will help the U.S. out of this whole we are in, stop spending money we don’t have. Restore a place of manufacturing and produce the world’s best products, and limit the amount of imports into our country. If we can’t govern this, then we will never make it “period”. Tax the rich all you want, all you will get is less.
No, we are in too deep. We need to raise taxes. Reagan did it both as Governor and as President- in both instances to counter a skyrocketing deficit. He then signed the Tax Equity & Fiscal Responsibility Act which specifically taxed... Get ready for it... BUSINESSES! This was in '82. And he did it AGAIN in '83 when he raised payroll taxes. GHWB raised taxes too, after he famously swore "No New Taxes". So did Clinton. And yet I seem to remember the 90s going pretty well...
@GrassValleyGreg The history is exactly right, I remember the early 80's having the same economic atmosphere of today. When the things really tanked it brought about the same hopelessness that we have today. Reagan was one of best presidents if not the best president ever, and I would have considered myself to be a democrat back then, Today I would rather not be associated with being anything but an American who is disgusted with the distance we have gone by eliminating good jobs overseas.
Listen, I'm not saying we can just tax our troubles away- I don't think ANYONE is arguing that. But we need to be pragmatic about this- Reagan didn't want to raise taxes, but he knew he had to. And this idea that even a smidgen of a tax increase (ie: from GWB rates back to Clinton) will cause Armageddon is really the product of the last decade- and it's complete nonsense. Demand determines whether a "job creator" hires- not the amount of cash they've got. We have a DEMAND problem.
@GrassValleyGreg you idiot, I said he has done nothing. It is impossible to state the amount of nothingness as it is infiinite. You have yet to say any positive things obama has done, and therefore are proving my point. But fine, obama has increased unemployment rate, cut military funding, increased debt, and he has taken more vaction trips and time off than any other president. Check and mate
Unemployment's been steadily dropping for most of his term- more good months than bad. Now surely you understand there was some carryover from Bush's historic recession- and Obama could not simply stop unemployment in it's tracks.
We need to cut military- that's a good thing. We're in a budget crisis and we're building shit like we're still fighting the Cold War! You are flatly wrong on the vacation time- and every president since Jackson has increased the debt. So, try again.
@rootbeer9000 Oh, and just to demonstrate how hilariously off you are on your completely irrelevant (as presidents are never really off the clock) vacation gripe- In 2001 George W. Bush took 69 vacation days. That's just 2001 (busy year, too) In 1981 Ronald Reagan took 42 vacation days - not counting the hospital. President Barack Obama has taken- are you ready?.... . . 90 days in 3 years. GWB wound up with over 1000 days of vacation. Reagan, 438. They are #1 and #2 respectively. GTFO.
@GrassValleyGreg Yes that is very much tilted to the left. Fox news which is tilted to the right says the exact opposite so no1 wins here you scrub. I notice you havn't even trieed to deny the tax being raised and unemployment increasing
Well Fox News is wrong. There isn't even a debate here- it is a well known fact that GWB took more vacation days than any other president- having broken Reagan's record in the process. Obama's not even close. And actually I did respond to you- and you never mentioned taxes btw- which mine, incidentally, have gone down. You did mention the military, which NEEDS to be cut- Speaking of Military DADT repeal was a good thing. But go to "View All" and find my original response.
Wasn't he cheered off of stage? o.O
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this a great video, i found this one on chatitout (.com) website
MrChatItOut 3 weeks ago
Republicans are so stingy and prudish when it comes to comedy. They will laugh their asses off at an impersonator making racist jokes, but when it comes to a Mormon joke about Romney heaven forbid...
Fucking Christ.
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Everyone check out the Obama impersonation by tomrichards213 under Absolutely Incredible Obama Impersonation
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OBAMA 2012 !!!!!
Michthemitch 1 month ago
Wow. So it's cool when he makes fun of Obama but it's not funny when he makes fun of Republicans. Though I do understand because it was at a Republican debate. Still they shouldn't have removed him for that. A joke is a joke.
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Yea but some of this jokes just wasn't funny. Then, he killed them buy just going on and on and on. Some people are funny and some people aren't.
360jeepboy 1 month ago
@360jeepboy Nah man they removed him when he started making Republican jokes.
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t's not enough to say "Vote Ron Paul"
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GovernMentalFreedom 2 months ago
I'm not ashamed to admit that I'm a Christian, but you don't need to be in the pew every Sunday to know there's something wrong in this country when gays can serve openly in the military but our kids can't openly celebrate Christmas or pray in school.
As President, I'll end Obama's war on religion. And I'll fight against liberal attacks on our religious heritage.
Faith made America strong. It can make her strong again.
I'm a Reptilian Illuminatus and I approve this message.
SuperTruth77 2 months ago 7
@SuperTruth77 Wow. Just wow.
Benjabob2012 2 months ago
@SuperTruth77 and you're a complete retard and/or troll. Just fuck off.
YorVideoSux 1 month ago
Vote for Real Change American Idiots; Ron Paul
take3dublin 3 months ago 17
@take3dublin I agree 100% Unfortunately, Americans often only follow what mass media tells them, and they are trying to censor him.
Pvtbrex 2 months ago
@take3dublin YEAH!
SgtCraigHart1 1 month ago
@take3dublin Ron Paul? change? Don't make me laugh
JarvisWade 2 weeks ago
I never even heard about this until now. I mean, it's not like news nowadays is heavily bias...
"Racist jokes? HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!" "Oh, a minor joke about something we tried getting Clinton impeached for? THAT'S JUST SICK. GET HIM OUT OF HERE!"
pirateschool101 4 months ago
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Check out this Barack Obama impression
skittles10001000 4 months ago
The Republicans can't take it. From the Dems or from each other.
walmartdog1142 4 months ago
and i got an obama advertisment...
eliseandjenny09 5 months ago
So, him making fun of his race was met with applause and laughter from the conservative audience, but when he directed his jokes toward political opponents, the crowd had enough? Seems like you Republicans can dish it out, but can't take it back.
DarkReapersGrim 5 months ago 26
@DarkReapersGrim agreed
BIGMAN7917 1 month ago
@DarkReapersGrim
You Republicans can dish it out but can't take it?.... lol I would say that is both sides.
360jeepboy 1 month ago
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MrBetelnut 5 months ago
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iAMVyt 5 months ago
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roger7c297 5 months ago
I'm Porto Rican i celebrate half
Acid4YoWound 5 months ago
OBAMA 2012!!!!!!!!
HoboGus 5 months ago
Everyone blaming Obama for the economy n its not his fault the economy was bad even wen bush was president. OMAMA 2 TERMS!
dstreaterkid19 5 months ago 3
He'd probably make a better president than the one we have now!!
sapher2020 5 months ago
@JuliusCaesar1914
"...when people need coal!"
Coal was everything. Commerce and people would've died with no resolution to the dispute. So he forced them to settle it; and that definitely was how TR rolled- far from a principled man, no doubt lol.
"My belief was that it was not only his right but his duty to do anything that the needs of the nation demanded unless such action was forbidden by the Constitution..."
Coolidge is probably the most underrated President though, save for Polk.
GrassValleyGreg 6 months ago
@JuliusCaesar1914
No way- TR for the win.
GrassValleyGreg 6 months ago
Misfires? That act was amazing!
gavmcguinness8024 6 months ago
@JuliusCaesar1914
Flat tax might work if the spending is dashed- but sadly Congress is COMPLETELY top to bottom corrupt as all hell. They have 14% approval. FOURTEEN! That is our primary problem- not Obama. What Obama has managed despite that shit-show is fairly impressive.
According to Warren Buffet, 17% is about what he paid in income taxes- half the rate of any of his staff of 20, who of course were paying at least double that rate. We need a new tax CODE. Too many Richie Rich loopholes.
GrassValleyGreg 6 months ago
He and News media proclaims he was pulled off for making too many remarks, but when I watched it the audience seemed to like it though the sound is cut off just when he starts to talk about bachmann. So I lipped synced that part of the video to find out he was mouthing out a joke about her being "racist". Not that I think it would be a big deal to her "supporters", but I believe if it wouldn't have any actual impact on how she's viewed the RLC wouldn't have kept it a secret.
Baron2yahoo 6 months ago
fuck off misfires... he killed!
kayjay1269 6 months ago
People people people, calm down... the fact is, and this is an actual fact not an opinion, americans aren't as educated as they SHOULD be in politics and quite frankly dont care enough to do proper research in their politicians. This truly is a country for the people and by the people, however, when the people arent active and concerned enough to serve each others REAL needs then the result is what we have now. Low quality politics and shady deals because of lack of transparency and regulation..
ramote8 6 months ago
They had every right to kick him out, it's their show. But they ARE being pussies, and worse yet- the whole "Racial joke" cop out excuse at the end was ridiculous. Just admit you didn't appreciate his jabs at the GOP so you booted him out.
GrassValleyGreg 6 months ago
they're oversensitive. i like how people got offended when he joked about obama's biracial heritage... because this guy is half black and half white himself.
CABabc12345 6 months ago
lol @ conservafags kicking him out after tearing them up
iamawesome511 7 months ago
@iamawesome511 u hate allen west because hes black you racist
peptopro17 6 months ago
@DictatorOfTheFree
You spelled it "DIVIL."
Its "DEVIL." -______-
BassGuitarGuy128 7 months ago
@DictatorOfTheFree
You spelled "DEVIL" wrong -_-
BassGuitarGuy128 7 months ago
The series Americans refused to believe
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eliasmouawad 7 months ago
"Don't get me wrong, he might make a great president. Along with his first lady, uhhhh, second lady, annnnd third lady." If you dont get the joke, Mitt Romney is a mormon, a religion that claims to be christian despite allowing multiple marriages and claiming that if you are born black, then God cursed you. So, you know a little more about mitt romney....
jmorris6758 7 months ago
@jmorris6758
And Obama's "reverend" is a radical Marxist who blames all of the world's problems on white people. And mormons do not support polygamy anymore.
BassGuitarGuy128 7 months ago
@BassGuitarGuy128 You talking about wright? The difference is, Obama denounced the shit wright said, and wright only started to talk that way when Obama became well known. But romney has yet to denounce being a mormon, and they do still support polygamy, AND, they still claim that if you are any other race than white, then God cursed you. Go figure about mormons, at least other religions pretend to give a damn about morality....
jmorris6758 7 months ago
@jmorris6758
Denounced what he said? Then why did Obama chose him to be his reverend? Why would Obama listen to his preachings if he disagreed with them? What would the point of that be? Obama denounced what Wright said because Wright's ideology was revealed, so Obama tried to squeeze his way out of it. Quit making these BS excuses for Obama.
The Mormon congregation denounced polygamy in the late 1800's. And there are black mormons. Why would you chose a religion of they said you were cursed?
BassGuitarGuy128 7 months ago
@BassGuitarGuy128 Something tells me you dont keep up with current times. I'm done debating with an ignorant fuck....
jmorris6758 7 months ago
@jmorris6758
I don't know what else to do, sir. I told you unadulterated facts, but you ignore them because they reveal how radical Obama really is. And then you just start throwing out spineless, unfounded insults like a fourth grader.
How am I supposed to argue with an immature, biased fool?
BassGuitarGuy128 7 months ago
Pharmaceutical companies don't want OBAMA care because they will lose too much money - take that to bank mr clean...
robdrums69 7 months ago
He'll look like that after his first term, fixing what they did LOL
robdrums69 7 months ago
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usa decoded is 666 and the world is right behind, what do expect from brainwashed tv robots!!!
BeUnotATVrobot 7 months ago
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RON PAUL 2012...
uclarulesomc 7 months ago
this guy sounds like a chipmunk
letterboy90 7 months ago
Unemployment with black people in American have increased since Obama has been in office.Abortion among blacks have also increased under Obama.TY Obama.
Madcowrage 7 months ago
the black stevo haha
darkmanx4434 7 months ago
Stoopid Uhmericans!
polymer11235 7 months ago
Obama voters are so stupid.Every democrat have implied that I am republican because I don't like Obama.I am a independent voter sho doesn't vote for the republican or democrat party but every democrat implies that if you are against Obama, you must be a republican.I conclude that democrats are dumber than republicans
Madcowrage 7 months ago
baracka flacka flame one hood ass n****a
surrey23 7 months ago
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''SAVING MY PRIVATES" ★★★★★ (2011 - Tom Hanks)
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MrChatItOut 7 months ago
ugh they need to take the fucking reply button off youtube cos this whole comments section is just retards arguing with each other
kickmeout1 7 months ago
@kickmeout1
Uh.... Don't read it if it bothers you so?
GrassValleyGreg 7 months ago
Obama 2012
harwicke 7 months ago
@Gregospinky no. i just used logic and common sense, neither of which you seem to be very good at. if you're going to directly quote someone, you might want to actually USE WHAT THEY SAID. i exposed you and your bullshit and now your grasping at straws to try and worm your way out of it to make it seem like you can form a coherent thought. obviously you can't. oh and thanks for throwing me in with the liberals. because if i disagree with you, there's no other side i could POSSIBLY belong to.
allenrw3 8 months ago
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Preisdent are marketing tools to bring the public to vote because if people knew the truth.....They would stop the vote and begin practicing the second amendment instead.
I wish republicans and Democrats who are not politicians would stop hating on one another because in the end you are both being screwed by the government
Madcowrage 8 months ago
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I went to see one of these residential centers that was on jesse show and they are real and they do look like prisons but no one will call them that.African Americans and Jews are being targeted more than anyone else in America
Madcowrage 8 months ago
I hate Obama. Him and the rest of the Democrats would crucify Bush over the Patriot Act yet he signs an extension for it. Fucking hypocrites. RON PAUL 2012
elr456 8 months ago
@elr456
Libertarianism = Anarchy for rich people. The past has shown that smaller government does not work. It will NEVER catch on with the populace (thank lord Jebus for that). No matter how much you lobby for Ron Paul. The polls showed it last time and they show it now. When most of your voters believe in Alternate Dimension Reptiles and 9/11 "truth" -- it's time to stick a fork in it.
=)
MaMudkipzIsTrollin 8 months ago
@MaMudkipzIsTrollin The polls show Ron Paul winning. =) Should we not get out of the Middle East? Isn't the Patriot Act unconstitutional? Big government doesn't work either. I guarantee you the rest of the candidates will only do the same. Now you're trying to discredit me by saying Ron Paul's supporters are "conspiracy theorists" despite wanting smaller government so fuck you.
elr456 8 months ago
@elr456 Which polls? The imaginary ones in your head?
MaMudkipzIsTrollin 8 months ago
@MaMudkipzIsTrollin The straw poll in Iowa and the CPAC straw poll in the link below. Ron Paul supporters want smaller government and you resort to call us conspiracy theorists in your comment? You're an a-hole who probably wants the same government we have. How about you fuck off. Instead of debating me with facts you call Ron Paul supporters "believers in alternate dimension reptiles". You lose if this was even a debate at all but win at trolling.
/watch?v=r3amcdLjupw
elr456 8 months ago
@elr456 I obviously hit a nerve when I mentioned conspiracy theories, so it seems that you are pretty aware that MOST of his supporters believe in some of these things. There are no polls to support what I'm saying, but going by Youtube and the copius amounts of Ron Paul related conspiracy videos -it's pretty obvious. At this point you're only lying to yourself.
You also didn't mention 9/11 in either one of your posts. Are you a "truther", by any chance?
MaMudkipzIsTrollin 8 months ago
GOP=FUCK THE MIDDLE CLASS
HUMANSAREBENEATHME 8 months ago
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@HUMANSAREBENEATHME Preisdent are marketing tools to bring the public to vote because if people knew the truth.....They would stop the vote and begin practicing the second amendment instead.
I wish republicans and Democrats who are not politicians would stop hating on one another because in the end you are both being screwed by the government
Madcowrage 8 months ago
GOP=FUCK THE MIDDLE CLASS
HUMANSAREBENEATHME 8 months ago
As a Republican I am ambarrassed by what happened here. The leadership has become so thin-skinned when it comes to race. I saw the comments he made about 1/2 of February and it was funny but no where near over the top. Ever listen to Stephanie Miller? Black comedians get rediculous. GOP leadership, man-up dammit!
earlyhemibill 8 months ago
@earlyhemibill I think it might've been the jokes about Republican candidates rather than Obama's race, something I don't think. It was kinda brutal but I don't think it's fair how some Republican politicians talk about morals and values and then go through women like hamburgers.
Savior20061 8 months ago
Bankrupt America...........yes we can.
kolgy1 8 months ago
Respond to this video... impeach obama for murdering and deporting brown people and unemployment is higher than last year
Madcowrage 8 months ago
Respond to this video... Obama is impersonatig the president.Someone
Please go find the real U.S.A. president
Madcowrage 8 months ago
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Respond to this video... obama has also deported more immigrants than Bush Jr
Madcowrage 8 months ago
Respond to this video... Clinton bombed brown people,Bush jr bombed brown people and Obama has bombed brown people.All three should be tried in court since all 3 likes to bomb brown people
Madcowrage 8 months ago
Madcowrage, Clinton was indeed impeached. Just FYI.
gshapiro2 8 months ago
Does anyone still actually believe that A American President can be impeached.LoL Clinton=not impeached Bush Jr=not impeached Obama who is Bush Jr Buddy behind closed doors=not impeached Conclusion The Government is to strong and the two parties you vote for our destroying America Vote for anyone but a democrat or republican Why NOT BRING WILL CHANGE
Madcowrage 8 months ago
@Madcowrage
Nixon almost certainly would've been removed from office had he not resigned- and in the cases of both Clinton and Johnson- say what you will about the men themselves, both impeachments were 100% political and the charges themselves were very flimsy.
GrassValleyGreg 8 months ago
His jokes do not represent the veiws of republicans, good reason to ask him to leave.
timothycharron 8 months ago
well, first off, he wasn't taken down because he criticized the GOP. The assholes backstage thought that one of his jokes was racially insensitive. I noticed how the up loader put that in the description box but not in the title in order to make it seem like the Republicans can't take a joke. second, someone would be bitching about this if he hadn't been taken off stage. You just can't win in the liberal controlled media.
colinjrob1 8 months ago
@colinjrob1 That's so true.
freakman707 8 months ago
@colinjrob1 Which joke?
Savior20061 8 months ago
@Gregospinky that's not an actual quote of what i said, but ok. put words in my mouth. i was implying that he was responsible for giving the order. i was hoping common sense would play a part in your decision making on that one. i gave you too much credit. and i'm not speaking, i'm typing. these are words on a computer, they're not actually coming out of my mouth. there's a difference between the two. if you'd like me to explain it, i'd be more than happy to.
allenrw3 8 months ago
GOP are people are such nasty people!!!!
fabbehn 8 months ago
herman cain 2012
capotegabriel 8 months ago
There will NEVER be another Republican president ever again. I GUARANTEE it.
Youtubbemain 8 months ago
@Youtubbemain well you show youre stupity
1generalk 8 months ago
Haha what pussies.
GrassValleyGreg 8 months ago
@Gregospinky I never said Obama should get full and complete credit for the whole deal, I'm saying he was involved in it. No he didn't pull the trigger, but gave the orders to do so. The same applies to Truman. So yes he was involved in it. You're saying he "didn't do a thing". Which is incorrect. No need to go all apeshit because you're wrong. Assclown.
allenrw3 8 months ago
Republicans can't take a joke
jamiethomasqwerty 8 months ago
no way obama is getting reelected
rootbeer9000 8 months ago
@rootbeer9000
Oh yea? Why is that (be specific), and who's gonna beat him?
GrassValleyGreg 8 months ago
@GrassValleyGreg I don't think republicans can beat Obama because they're not willing to do what Obama's willing to do. Barry loves to suck George Soros' package!!! Barry loves to suck Richard Trumka's package!!! And he loves to suck Andy Stern's package!! BARRY LOVES WHITE MEN!!!
HappyNathan80 8 months ago
@HappyNathan80
I don't think republicans can beat Obama because they're irrational nincompoops. Go figure.
GrassValleyGreg 8 months ago
@GrassValleyGreg RON PAUL 2012
08zea 8 months ago
@08zea
Case in point- Ron Paul. The GOP will NEVER. EVER. Nominate him. Why? Because they're irrational nincompoops.
GrassValleyGreg 8 months ago
@GrassValleyGreg
any one this guy is a moron
1generalk 8 months ago
@1generalk
MMM hmmm. And why is he a moron?
GrassValleyGreg 8 months ago
@GrassValleyGreg obamba
1generalk 8 months ago
@1generalk
Seriously- who of that laughing stock of a litter is going to beat Obama? At the end of the day, GOP CAUSED this mess, AND would rather obsess about birth certificates than actually fixing it.
GrassValleyGreg 8 months ago
@GrassValleyGreg because hopefully by now people see that he is useless as a president and has done little good for the country
rootbeer9000 8 months ago
@rootbeer9000
Wow- great specificity there.
GrassValleyGreg 8 months ago
@GrassValleyGreg please specify what good things he has done during his presidency
rootbeer9000 8 months ago
@rootbeer9000
I asked first. But hey, I'll humor you. Unemployment is down 1% from it's peak (from the recession that Bush and the GOP caused, I might add), and has been declining since Oct. 09. And Osama bin Laden is dead. There's two actual specifics- in case you were unclear on the definition. You gonna quit being a pussy now, or what?
GrassValleyGreg 8 months ago
@GrassValleyGreg obama had little to do with osama's death. Bush was the one that started the search for him in the first place. Also you are completely wrong about the unemployment. Since he was elected 3 million morepeople are unemployed. Also he added two trillion dollars of debt. You just got served.
rootbeer9000 8 months ago
@rootbeer9000
Bush TRIED and failed to find bin laden. So what if he started the search? Eight years and never found his ass! Obama did- in 3. GW had jack shit to do with it.
Also- he entered office during Bush's recession. In October 09, the Unemployment was at 10%, It has been steadily declining ever since and is now closer to 9%. There have been more months of decline in unemployment than increase. So if you reread my post you will see I'm not wrong it all "Ye who supposedly served me'
GrassValleyGreg 8 months ago
@rootbeer9000
And Bush and the GOP controlled congress added 5 trillion to the debt- and I don't remember hearing a peep at the time. In fact, not only were they spending all of that money on fool-hearty wars- they were cutting the taxes of billionaires and not bring any money in. But now Obama spends 2 trillion HERE in the US to help OUR economy and save OUR country and what do we get from the TeaBaggers?
Bitch, Bitch, Bitch. Obama could cure cancer and you would still bitch up a storm.
GrassValleyGreg 8 months ago
@GrassValleyGreg bush was in office 8 years about 4 times longer than obama has do the math: 2 X 4= 8 obama is aiming to add 8 trilion dollars of debt where Bush did 5. Besides this has nothing to do with bush, the debt obama adds is not helping the u.s clearly as unemployment has increased. This is too easy you have no solid arguements
rootbeer9000 8 months ago
@rootbeer9000
Firstly: Bush had NOTHING to do with Bin Ladens death, in fact in the eight years he was president, we KNEW Bin Laden had fled to Pakistan, in fact the left that you would call Libtards or the leftist machine knew this as well, even people like Keith Olbermann stated that "Bin Laden is now living, unmolested in Pakistan." (Countdown Special Comment 12 years in 12 minutes. Towards the end. Look It Up) And apparently you and Mrs Palin can't take the truth.
LetsAskJack 8 months ago
@rootbeer9000
And secondly, Bush's final financial action was to pass the TARP, wanna know what that was, The First Bank Bailout he passed it with no transparency and it was later found some of the money used went to office remodelings and for raises, that Socialism crap started because Obama gave them a SECOND bailout when the country was using words like "Too big to fail" And he demanded transparency. But hot damn the right-wing sure likes to forget about that first bailout don't they?
LetsAskJack 8 months ago
@rootbeer9000
And you're assuming that Obama will spend that much at every 2 year interval- which you're basing on nothing. Bush added 2 trillion in his first term then 3 trillion in his second. Obama's first term has just over a year left- so he's not far off GW's pace actually. And again, the money was spent HERE- not in the middle east on two ill-conceived wars. It has everything to do with Bush and the GOP- it was HIS deregulation and HIS spending that caused this whole thing.
GrassValleyGreg 8 months ago
@GrassValleyGreg ahaha now you're contradiciting yourself, You congratulated obama for taking down osama(which he had little to do with) yet are mad at bush for spending money in the middle east you are a hypocrite. Also Bush didn't cause the recession in case you didn't know there are too many causes to say, but do yourself a favor and google freddie mac and fannie mae
rootbeer9000 8 months ago
@rootbeer9000
So TOTAL war in TWO countries was necessary to take down one man?! Obama suggested he was in Pakistan way back during the primaries! If you think the Commander-in-Chief of the US Military had little to do with an special military operation to take down the world's most wanted man- you're a moron. It was not luck.
And deregulation caused the financial crisis. Wall Street gambled and lost big. And who pushed deregulation? Hank Paulson and the GOP. Same guys who brought you TARP.
GrassValleyGreg 8 months ago
@GrassValleyGreg you watch too much micheal moore. if you think the war was only for bin laden you are an idiot. Hundreds of thousands of innocent people were being massacred. such as hussein and the kurds. What i'm saying is the operation to go after binny was in effect b4 obama. I notice you keep changing the subject and you have let to say any 'good' things obama has done in his presidency
rootbeer9000 8 months ago
@rootbeer9000
Of course the war wasn't only for Bin Laden- but you are giving Bush credit for Bin Laden's death because of the War, which is complete nonsense. There are plenty of bad guys on planet earth. We are not the World Police and should not be nation building.
And I mentioned two specific goods that have happened during Obama's presidency. I'm the one who asked the fucking question and you've yet to give me a SINGLE specific negative. Time to pay up, or fuck off dude. Seriously.
GrassValleyGreg 8 months ago
@GrassValleyGreg you idiot, I am saying he has done little to nothing good that is the negative. Both your points I have already proven to be false.
rootbeer9000 8 months ago
@rootbeer9000
Lol Ok Captain Cop Out. And no- you thought you had proven my statement false, but I demonstrated you were wrong on both counts. You cannot provide a single specific negative other than deficit, which every president since Jackson has raised. You are a typical hate spewing, narrow minded ditto head tea bag that can't think for themselves. Time to fuck off, I'm afraid.
GrassValleyGreg 8 months ago
@GrassValleyGreg Again it is impossible to prove that he hasn't done anything good which is what I am saying. The onus is on you idiots to show what good he has done. U have said 2 things. One that he reduced unemployment, which is completely false, and the other that he caught Osama even though the operation was in effect before him. Try actually adding something to your side of the arguement because right now you are just making obama look worse
rootbeer9000 8 months ago
@rootbeer9000
No, .I did NOT say unemployment has reduced- I said there have been more months of gains than losses, which is true, and it's down 1% from it's peak from Oct 09, which is also true. When he took office, unemployment was skyrocketing. You teabags seem to forget Obama was handed a bigger shit sandwich than any other President to ever take office. Two total wars and a depression! As for Osama- prove that the operation in PAKISTAN was in effect before Osama took office. It wasn't.
GrassValleyGreg 8 months ago
@rootbeer9000
Oh, and "That IS a negative, he's done nothing good." is the biggest cop out ever, dude. You can't name one bill? One policy? Not one single specific for all of the noise you make about it. Which pretty much makes you typical, actually.
GrassValleyGreg 8 months ago
@GrassValleyGreg dude, he's done more bad than good, and he's accumulated more debt than any other president....COMBINED!!!! Obama sucks, he's not a good president and he needs to leave office, and we CAN'T KEEP ACCUMULATING DEBT!!! China? they want their money back. Yea, he's been handed a bad situation, given that, but we have to be conservative, not keep spending! Stimulus package was a complete failure because it mostly went to unproductive causes, and the hc reform wasn't even reform!
phil198711 8 months ago
@phil198711
The Stimulus was NOT a complete failure- Unemployment's down 1% since a year and a half ago- and if anything it wasn't big enough. Not to mention HALF of it was TAX CUTS. We've been accumulating debt since Andrew Jackson- and if you look at a chart- the only time it ever settles down is during Democratic administrations. In the end, we have to stop these mindless tax cuts. They are helping a very small fraction of the country in the long run. The promised jobs just aren't there.
GrassValleyGreg 8 months ago
@phil198711
Oh, and Healthcare reform wasn't reform because the GOP in DC do not want reform and didn't allow it.
GrassValleyGreg 8 months ago
@phil198711 NO, HC REFORM WASN'T REFORM BECAUSE IT DIDN'T SOLVE ANY OF THE PROBLEMS WITHIN THE HC SYSTEM WE CURRENTLY HAVE!! how is forcing everyone to get medical insurance solving the bigger issues within it?? the issue isn't just the medical insurance companies! the biggest issue are the prices of medications in this nation! you want reform? regulate the pharmacies...but of coarse that will never happen, because the government won't get taxes out of that...and they are in their back pockets
phil198711 8 months ago
@phil198711
I agree. And who stands in the way of regulation?
GrassValleyGreg 8 months ago
@GrassValleyGreg it's not just repubs, it's both repubs and dems...no one has ever brought up the idea of regulating the pharmacies...NOBODY! People like you and I have, but no one in higher power. Take a hard lesson here, you give people power, and they will take it. As long as the big pharmas are handin out bribes to our politicians, and we continue to have corrupt politicians to take those bribes, our problems will never be solved.
phil198711 7 months ago
@phil198711
Thing is- you don't have to bribe a Repub to get them to adamantly speak out against regulation- especially with the crazy pack of newbies that essentially run the party now. I will agree that the Obama administration has been short on the promised "Change"- but he's had to fight hard to get even what he's gotten, and that is because of the Blue Dogs (who were almost to a man removed from office in 2010) and the GOP, who have not really allowed anything effective to happen.
GrassValleyGreg 7 months ago
@GrassValleyGreg well, think of it like this, what's worse? GOP not needing bribes to regulate? or democrats trying to come up with regulations in reasons to obtain bribes? either way, it's all crooked. I think that fighting upstairs needs to quit happening and some comprimise has to be made to help the currently struggling Americans out.
phil198711 7 months ago
@phil198711
Well, If lack of regulation is the key problem, I would submit that the group who universally opposes regulation in principle is worse; but indeed it is the greater of two evils. But Obama is trying to compromise- that's ALL he's done for 3 years and I would argue that's his main problem. Compromise is a two way game- but that's not how it's been playing out during his term. Debt Ceiling is only the latest example- and really the first where Obama's put his foot down in any sense.
GrassValleyGreg 7 months ago
@GrassValleyGreg i know this was a while ago, but the debt ceiling plan was a complete joke, there were no real cuts involved, just lowering the increased spending. Spending needs to stop, period, not just be lowered. And if you think obama cares about you and me, you better start thinkin twice. This guy cares more about other countries in the middle east and the illegal immigrants here than the actual taxpayers of this nation. You actually thinks he can stop the fighting in the mideast? com'on
phil198711 6 months ago
@phil198711
lmao NO ONE can stop the fighting in the Middle East- which is why it was stupid to go over there, *George*. Obama has no interest in fighting- we were just THERE on two fronts when he took office. While it'd be sweet if we could just yank the plug on that whole mess- we can't. The debt ceiling WAS a joke- but once again I think Congress is to blame for that. As for caring more about foreign countries and immigrants- I'll need a "for instance" before I can even address that one.
GrassValleyGreg 6 months ago
@GrassValleyGreg Obama has not interest in fighting there? than why did he go into Libya? explain that one, and no congress was not the only blame for debt ceiling bill, HE DIDN'T HAVE TO SIGN THE BILL, but he did! And what good has this guy done for the taxpayers of this nation besides raise their tax rates and create a bigger defecit for them to pay off?
phil198711 6 months ago
@phil198711
I didn't agree with the Libya invasion- but I still see a major difference between a humanitarian effort (which Libya clearly is) and Iraq, of which the entire premise of the hasty invasion proved to be false.
Obama would've taken a HUGE political gamble by vetoing the Debt ceiling bill. Too many unknowns with a default.
Obama extended the Bush tax cuts, so tax rates have not gone up. He got smokers and tanners- but I say good on that one. The reality is we NEED more revenue.
GrassValleyGreg 6 months ago
@GrassValleyGreg ok, completely wrong on the fact that they need more revenue, no, im sick of giving these guys my tax dollars and having put it toward places it doesn't belong! They got revenue, just putting it toward useless, unproductive shit! If we didn't pay out so much money toward taking care of illegals, abuse of welfare and unemployment, food stamps, etc. (and by doin this, your practically telling these people "it's ok, you don't have to work and be responsible, we'll pay your way!)
phil198711 6 months ago
@GrassValleyGreg they would have money! oh, but ok? it's ok to invade because it's humanitarian?? no, that's bullshit! Let them fight their own fight, what's goin on down there is not our fight nor our business! We have to start worrying about america over anyone else starting now! And the tax cut deal? he only did that because he knew he had no choice! We are supposed to be the saviors of the world?? come on now! we got a lot of problems in this nation, by sayin that, you look pretty damned dum
phil198711 6 months ago
@phil198711
I said didn't agree with the Libya invasion- So I don't think I look that dumb. I think you look pretty damn dumb by claiming tax rates have gone up when they haven't. He did extend the cuts under protest, (extending unemployment was the issue, you'll recall), nonetheless, taxes aren't up. And Obama was never going to raise the average American's taxes- he never indicated he would, and in fact he ALWAYS indicated he wouldn't. This is just some of that classic GOP fear mongering.
GrassValleyGreg 6 months ago
@GrassValleyGreg ok, with the hc reform, tax rates are goin up, how else would that all get paid for really? And i'm not GOP, i'm just giving you the reality...i don't like the republican party either, trust me, i guess you could say i'm one of those "tea-partyers"...do they indicate the tax rates in checks? no, it's all tax rates rising in the IRS rates (see? this is where they get people)...wealthy people by themselves cannot completely pay off obamacare...
phil198711 6 months ago
@phil198711
We need more frugality, but pork comes from congress- and when they spend months and months fighting over every issue- Obama almost HAS to sign what comes because it's marginally better than nothing.
Putting the rates back to the Clinton era levels isn't asking wealthy people to completely pay off anything. There is no evidence that Reaganomics works- everyone just WANTS it to. But clearly all we've done in the last 30 years is make the rich richer and create an enormous bubble.
GrassValleyGreg 6 months ago
@GrassValleyGreg right, and what obama is suggesting is the Keynsian theory (if you put out a dollar into the economic bubble, it will return more back into the system), if you remember your history well, they already tried that in 1920s...it did not work because businesses started spending money that they did not have in reality (remember, that money is only theirs temporarily until it's spent)...the stimulus package, that was all just temporary jobs to certain skilled people (Keynsian Theory)
phil198711 6 months ago
@GrassValleyGreg and plus reaganomics did work in statistically in creating jobs and economic growth (something we can use)...during his presidency, he had a 7% economic growth and unemployment under 4% after it being up at 12%! And if the wealthy get wealthier, so what? doesn't phase me...I've personally never been hired by a poor person, and a lot of people can safely say that, like it or not, it's the wealthy people who create and expand businesses and jobs, and obama wants to hinder them
phil198711 6 months ago
@phil198711
The wealth distribution in this country is the worst it's been in almost 100 years. The top 20% own 85% of the assets. The bottom 40 own nothing or are in the red. And polls show that the VAST majority of Americans think that it's too lopsided. And it's this very idea that you kind of hinted at that troubles me- the disappearance of the middle class- it's either rich or poor. GHWB was right- it's Voodoo Economics- and it made "rags to riches" so to speak a virtual impossibility.
GrassValleyGreg 6 months ago
@GrassValleyGreg YOu just can't use the words wealth and distribution in the same sentence. Eveyone in America has the freedom to use their heads and accumulate wealth, the fact that a smaller percentage are wealthy speaks for itself. And the simple math that the wealthiest own the lions share is kindergarten, it's only logical.
thisux7x7 6 months ago
@thisux7x7
But the theory is that if the wealthy have more, which we GIVE them through these tax cuts, they hire more. But they have more money now than ever, both relative and absolute, so our current situation with unemployment then doesn't make sense. That's because this idea that people who spend less than they bring in (that's how they got rich), will just spend, spend, spend to hire people regardless of whether there's any demand is nonsense. Clinton era tax rates are HARDLY socialistic.
GrassValleyGreg 6 months ago
@GrassValleyGreg .First off; tax cuts never made anybody rich, and the wealthy do not have more because of tax cuts, it’s just a fabricated mode of thought. There are always ways to fine-tune and manage money to profit the most, and wealthy people are usually patient and manage future earnings well. If not somebody does it for them. Secondly; the thought that they hire more with more tax cuts is ludicrous to say the least.
thisux7x7 6 months ago
@GrassValleyGreg Tax rates will never make the U.S. strong economically, and giving to the least only creates a larger poverty base. There is only one thing that will help the U.S. out of this whole we are in, stop spending money we don’t have. Restore a place of manufacturing and produce the world’s best products, and limit the amount of imports into our country. If we can’t govern this, then we will never make it “period”. Tax the rich all you want, all you will get is less.
thisux7x7 6 months ago
@thisux7x7
No, we are in too deep. We need to raise taxes. Reagan did it both as Governor and as President- in both instances to counter a skyrocketing deficit. He then signed the Tax Equity & Fiscal Responsibility Act which specifically taxed... Get ready for it... BUSINESSES! This was in '82. And he did it AGAIN in '83 when he raised payroll taxes. GHWB raised taxes too, after he famously swore "No New Taxes". So did Clinton. And yet I seem to remember the 90s going pretty well...
GrassValleyGreg 6 months ago
@GrassValleyGreg The history is exactly right, I remember the early 80's having the same economic atmosphere of today. When the things really tanked it brought about the same hopelessness that we have today. Reagan was one of best presidents if not the best president ever, and I would have considered myself to be a democrat back then, Today I would rather not be associated with being anything but an American who is disgusted with the distance we have gone by eliminating good jobs overseas.
thisux7x7 6 months ago
@thisux7x7
Listen, I'm not saying we can just tax our troubles away- I don't think ANYONE is arguing that. But we need to be pragmatic about this- Reagan didn't want to raise taxes, but he knew he had to. And this idea that even a smidgen of a tax increase (ie: from GWB rates back to Clinton) will cause Armageddon is really the product of the last decade- and it's complete nonsense. Demand determines whether a "job creator" hires- not the amount of cash they've got. We have a DEMAND problem.
GrassValleyGreg 6 months ago
@thisux7x7
Oh, and for my money- Reagan is not even the best Republican president of the 20th Century... ;)
GrassValleyGreg 6 months ago
@GrassValleyGreg you idiot, I said he has done nothing. It is impossible to state the amount of nothingness as it is infiinite. You have yet to say any positive things obama has done, and therefore are proving my point. But fine, obama has increased unemployment rate, cut military funding, increased debt, and he has taken more vaction trips and time off than any other president. Check and mate
rootbeer9000 8 months ago
@rootbeer9000
Unemployment's been steadily dropping for most of his term- more good months than bad. Now surely you understand there was some carryover from Bush's historic recession- and Obama could not simply stop unemployment in it's tracks.
We need to cut military- that's a good thing. We're in a budget crisis and we're building shit like we're still fighting the Cold War! You are flatly wrong on the vacation time- and every president since Jackson has increased the debt. So, try again.
GrassValleyGreg 8 months ago
GrassValleyGreg 8 months ago
@GrassValleyGreg love your made up statistics there. Do you have any credible unbias websites saying that?
rootbeer9000 8 months ago
@rootbeer9000
Washington Times? Oooooh let me guess- That's a LIBERAL rag lol! I thought I told you to GTFO.
GrassValleyGreg 8 months ago
@GrassValleyGreg Yes that is very much tilted to the left. Fox news which is tilted to the right says the exact opposite so no1 wins here you scrub. I notice you havn't even trieed to deny the tax being raised and unemployment increasing
rootbeer9000 8 months ago
@rootbeer9000
Well Fox News is wrong. There isn't even a debate here- it is a well known fact that GWB took more vacation days than any other president- having broken Reagan's record in the process. Obama's not even close. And actually I did respond to you- and you never mentioned taxes btw- which mine, incidentally, have gone down. You did mention the military, which NEEDS to be cut- Speaking of Military DADT repeal was a good thing. But go to "View All" and find my original response.
GrassValleyGreg 8 months ago