Come on now. Sound is vibration. And the more mass "bigger" something it the lower the audible tone is. Look at a guitar or bass. The fattest string is the lowest note. If u and ur drummer couldn't figure this out I think u need to put the doobie out man. Jk don't put it out. That's drug abuse!!
Water or Vodka in that case transports low frequencies much better then air. That's why some ocean animals can communicate with others even tho they are miles away.
effective mass is increasing while the cup is being filled up, while the effective stiffness is staying ~ constant.....sqrt(K/M)...thus as M increases the fundamental frequency decreases...
@EthanWiner that is for sure (regarding cheap vodka), especially after adding Grenadine and/or the second glass!
so ethan it dawned on me that might be why i've heard of folks placing a weight or even a full paint can (with the lid closed) inside of a kick drum...i guess that would not be a significant change in overall tone, but it would lower the pitch of the shell potentially and may give an overall slightly lower kick drum tone...any other recording applications for this?
@sswatzell I honestly don't know the relation between a drum shell and the pitch produced. A good friend of mine is a drummer, and we've discussed this stuff endlessly. I do know that a shell is not always needed to get a full round tone, as evidenced by the Roto-Tom which is a drum head alone. Another friend recently lent me a great book that explains the physics of musical instruments. I'll read the chapter on drums, and if that offers any insight I'll post again here.
I would like to see the solution! Though if I could take a stab: I would say it's becuase the vibrations going through the sides of the glass are dampened by the liquid in the glass. If the glass was really really short, the frequency would be higher. Here the sound still resonates in the water giving it a low tone.
Check out the video "The Allassonic Effect" by Psidot. Another cool acoustic/fluid effect, but it uses coffee!
Parkinson9999 3 weeks ago
@Parkinson9999 Very cool. But my demo uses vodka! :->)
EthanWiner 3 weeks ago
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Parkinson9999 3 weeks ago
Come on now. Sound is vibration. And the more mass "bigger" something it the lower the audible tone is. Look at a guitar or bass. The fattest string is the lowest note. If u and ur drummer couldn't figure this out I think u need to put the doobie out man. Jk don't put it out. That's drug abuse!!
TheWizardofGore 6 months ago
BTW your videos are good I especially liked the sound reflection graph with Homer. Put that on any form with dummies and everyone understands. LOL
TheWizardofGore 6 months ago
There's more mass? Its not getting smaller its getting heaver
TheWizardofGore 6 months ago
@TheWizardofGore Exactly - the vodka adds weight and mass to the glass.
EthanWiner 6 months ago
*whilst stirring a full mug of hot tea. I wasn't sure if it was something to do with the heat or the vortex created whist stirring.
epodcam 7 months ago
I'm sure I've noticed a similar phenomenon
epodcam 7 months ago
It also has to do with the fact that glass is not completely solid(that's why you can see through it).
mr4y 7 months ago
Water or Vodka in that case transports low frequencies much better then air. That's why some ocean animals can communicate with others even tho they are miles away.
Threemicsrecords 7 months ago
effective mass is increasing while the cup is being filled up, while the effective stiffness is staying ~ constant.....sqrt(K/M)...thus as M increases the fundamental frequency decreases...
sswatzell 7 months ago
@sswatzell You got it! As for why cheap vodka, because it tastes the same as expensive vodka! Especially after adding Grenadine.
EthanWiner 7 months ago
@EthanWiner that is for sure (regarding cheap vodka), especially after adding Grenadine and/or the second glass!
so ethan it dawned on me that might be why i've heard of folks placing a weight or even a full paint can (with the lid closed) inside of a kick drum...i guess that would not be a significant change in overall tone, but it would lower the pitch of the shell potentially and may give an overall slightly lower kick drum tone...any other recording applications for this?
sswatzell 7 months ago
@sswatzell I honestly don't know the relation between a drum shell and the pitch produced. A good friend of mine is a drummer, and we've discussed this stuff endlessly. I do know that a shell is not always needed to get a full round tone, as evidenced by the Roto-Tom which is a drum head alone. Another friend recently lent me a great book that explains the physics of musical instruments. I'll read the chapter on drums, and if that offers any insight I'll post again here.
EthanWiner 7 months ago
My logical guess would be something to do with sound travelling faster through a liquid medium.
fireant1985 7 months ago
I would like to see the solution! Though if I could take a stab: I would say it's becuase the vibrations going through the sides of the glass are dampened by the liquid in the glass. If the glass was really really short, the frequency would be higher. Here the sound still resonates in the water giving it a low tone.
NPC82 7 months ago
why cheap vodka ? for a better headache ? ;)
DubsMood 7 months ago
Interesting! This is something I've always noticed, but I don't think I've ever thought about it.
Is it because adding the vodka increases the "density" of what the sound of the ice clinking is going through?
TheMusicBucket 7 months ago