Lol!! It's pretty obvious that all of the "American" sailors, besides Captain Toolhead Towers are Aussies faking Yank accents and faking them very, very poorly...
This is so friggin' boring! Who cares about all these damn hysterical emotions? I know it's way cheaper to film emotional moments aboard a Submarine than pretty much anything else......but this is so BORING!
@megaswenson Why watch it then if you find it boring? Its not compulsoryto watch it. There's plenty of mindless bubble gume entertainment on You Tube for to watch.
0:57 What warheads are they talking about? At 4:57 of Part 9, the submarine they are boarding is a Los Angeles Class attack submarine. The only nuclear warheads on board her would be armament on torpedoes and depth charges. These guys are implying that the Captain didn't fire his SLBM's. The only sub that would carry SLBM's in the American fleet are Ohio Class Ballistic Missile subs armed with Trident II MIRV'ed missiles.
What is the explanation at 2:08? Is that 'neutron enrichment'? How the hell is that supposed to explain how a bunch of houses survived the devastation? The explanation that would make sense is 'terrain shielded it from the blast', since the hills would block the thermal pulse and reflect the shock wave.
@ObssesedNuker Perhaps the bomb that exploded there was neutron bomb instead of an ordinary nuke. I remember in the 80s they developed a weapon that didn't destroy buildings but just killed people and everything else in the vicinityall by the intense radiation gamma radiation from the blast.
@Professor6871 A neutron bomb is a very low yield two-stage thermonuclear device whose design is built to maximize the output of neutron radiation. When detonated you still get a nuclear explosion, with the attendant shockwave and thermal pulse, its just less powerful then a ordinary thermonuke. Additionally, a neutron bomb is a poor choice for use against city's, because even a neutron bomb would only inflict lethal levels of direct neutron radiation at only one or two kilometers... cont.
@Professor6871 Where, with a regular nuke of 500 kilotons (which is the rough average of most modern strategic nuclear warheads), an ordinary human would be reduced to the consistency of a McDonalds hamburger in the first second after detonation.
End of the day...which this movie represents...Dont blame the usa, don't blame the communists... blame al ofus asshole's that are willing to live with the god awful weapons. If we didn't have these weapons...asshole terrorists wouldn't want one. That's my soapbox moment for for what it's worth....and YES I believe in freedom!
The sub commander didn't fire his warheads? Traitor, coward. Disobeying orders. Fire them nukes, for God and country, for democracy, for freedom, etc..........yeah, yeah, fuckin' yeah. Politicians who disregard humanity and our Constitution should be arrested.
I was only kidding. The U.S. murders whole nations for the elite. I am against war and invading, conquering, and looting. I am for the Constitution. Only Congress may declare war. Congress hasn't declared war since WWII. What a disgrace!
Something inbetween a banana republic and a european democracy.
a little bit of everything actually.
The roman empire during the republic era called itself a democracy even when they had slavery, so democracy is just an idea. even the communist states call themselves a peoples democracy
I'm not sure Treasure Island was still operational. the Army Base at the Presidio certainly wasn t... I lived there as a child in the early 60s...don't know what became of it...it was closed down some time ago;;
Everything in San Fran Bay is now closed, thanx to the radical Democrats, 10's of thousands of Middle-class jobs gone over the 30 years.
Hunters Point, Mare Island, Treasure Island, Marin Headlands, The Presidio, Hamilton Field, Skagg's Island, Alameda, Moffett Field, etc, etc. everything but the Reserve Fleet Station.
But hey, Nancy Pelosi's husband is making HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS of Dollars off of it, so t's all good, Right?
Felixuncia yes, as a matter of fact there are TWO escape hatches on the L.A. attack subs, one fore and one aft, made to match with a special rescue sub, perhaps you are speaking of the early version of the sub. I can't see how one man could escape through the hatch, since it takes a team to operate it. Someone on the inside has to regulate the flooding of the hatch.
There is NO WAY he could have gotten through the torp tube
no one will notice this plot hole, except on this blog, years later!
Interesting point.. but hey what movie doesn't have a plot hole... I've seen hundreds :)).. and yes we will notice yur comment but before years later .. good call
The thing that really bugged me about "Threads" was the way the government started treating it's people before the missiles fell. Surprising? Probably not but that part really got to me. Of course, it's an excellent movie & it may even highlight a point not covered in any flick; the rush for a diplomatic solution. 3 weeks between the base & the missile exchange. This movie, TDA, BDEL, it's a 1 day war. But in Threads, the 2 countries were working to turn it off.
It started off when Ruth's parents phone to get her a doctor and find out the phones are all cut off. She is calling for medical aid and the gov't has decided that it is non essential. Or the gov't official opening up his emergency powers orders, people being picked up, tossed out of hospitals. Sure, it would probably happen but it was the factor of the movie that bugged me. For all the subjecation afterwards, it started before.
I think that, unfortunately, that would be how things would indeed happen in a global crisis. if .H1N1 becomes lethal next autumn, we will probably see a lot of the same...
Yeah, that movie is definitely not meant to be comforting. The lead-up to the war was scary. One thing that TDA did slightly better IMO was the tension in one day leading up to war. But Threads seemed more realistic in its leadup.
Pretty well made section of the film ..... except there is no forward torpedo room on a Los Angeles class submarine. Their torpedo room is just short of midships and 3 decks down, so there isn't an escape trunk, either. What he got out thru was the torpedo room on a Boomer.
The untouched village they see in San Francisco is much how I imagined it in the book. However, in the book they watch him make ashore and see him move about the streets and enter his family home. I think he may even have taken a car or bike out and ride around the empty roads. This is a good version of the book but it's a real pity they didn't show that scene as it was written. Much of the rest of the film is.
It's also a little inaccurate in so far as there hasn't been an active naval base on Treasure Island in decades. Doesn't detract from the film, though. I'm not one of those guys.
There's a big navy base in Alameda plus an old Naval Air Station(Now closed) called Moffet down near San Jose. Plus there was the main airport near SF itself.
OK guess I didn't realize that as a child... we lived on the Presidio, my dad was just an Army medical officer... when we lived at Ft. Sam in Texas during the Cuban missile crisis, it was much scarier...
Sad, the final second...But I'm wondering: Are the dark clouds above San Francisco (not seen in Anchorage, by the way) supposed to be interpreted as nuclear winter?
That's not nuclear winter its too sunny and warm for that. Nevill Shute wrote this book before the phenomenon of nuclear winter caused by atomic weapons, was even known about. Radiation was the only long term threat that was known then. Anyway the Chinese would launch a few missiles at Ausralia and New Zealand if any war took place. This TV film is pure fantasy that Australia would be untouched by the intital war.
Is that all you've got to say on the subject? A rather facile reply to my comment there I have to say. Obviously this is a modern contemporary interpretation of Shute's book, and so naturally there would be laptops and the Internet in it. Shute wrote this novel in 1957 or so when nuclear weapons had not been proliferated much as they are now. Lets have debate instead of this near monosyllabic reply that you have given me?
Of course. Excuse me for offending you. I ment to say that as this obviously is a modern interpretation of the novel, as you say, it is not unthinkable for scientific details to be updated as well if the core of the story and its ideas and messages do not suffer from it. And I am indeed very interested in this topic, as you can see from my comments on other nuclear war movies here on YouTube (The Day After, Threads - the latter UNFORTUNATELY removed)and look forward to any meaningful debate.
Lol!! It's pretty obvious that all of the "American" sailors, besides Captain Toolhead Towers are Aussies faking Yank accents and faking them very, very poorly...
geoffck6969 10 months ago
This is so friggin' boring! Who cares about all these damn hysterical emotions? I know it's way cheaper to film emotional moments aboard a Submarine than pretty much anything else......but this is so BORING!
megaswenson 10 months ago
@megaswenson Why watch it then if you find it boring? Its not compulsoryto watch it. There's plenty of mindless bubble gume entertainment on You Tube for to watch.
Professor6871 7 months ago
@Professor6871 right on Professor :))
anisete46 3 months ago
0:57 What warheads are they talking about? At 4:57 of Part 9, the submarine they are boarding is a Los Angeles Class attack submarine. The only nuclear warheads on board her would be armament on torpedoes and depth charges. These guys are implying that the Captain didn't fire his SLBM's. The only sub that would carry SLBM's in the American fleet are Ohio Class Ballistic Missile subs armed with Trident II MIRV'ed missiles.
geoffck6969 10 months ago
Then someone in China Command got shot in the head
v19d 11 months ago
What is the explanation at 2:08? Is that 'neutron enrichment'? How the hell is that supposed to explain how a bunch of houses survived the devastation? The explanation that would make sense is 'terrain shielded it from the blast', since the hills would block the thermal pulse and reflect the shock wave.
ObssesedNuker 1 year ago
@ObssesedNuker Perhaps the bomb that exploded there was neutron bomb instead of an ordinary nuke. I remember in the 80s they developed a weapon that didn't destroy buildings but just killed people and everything else in the vicinityall by the intense radiation gamma radiation from the blast.
Professor6871 7 months ago
@Professor6871 A neutron bomb is a very low yield two-stage thermonuclear device whose design is built to maximize the output of neutron radiation. When detonated you still get a nuclear explosion, with the attendant shockwave and thermal pulse, its just less powerful then a ordinary thermonuke. Additionally, a neutron bomb is a poor choice for use against city's, because even a neutron bomb would only inflict lethal levels of direct neutron radiation at only one or two kilometers... cont.
ObssesedNuker 7 months ago
@ObssesedNuker Oh is it dam I should of read my James Weekly then. By the way where did you come by this information?
Professor6871 7 months ago
@Professor6871 Many, many books on the subject as well as research on the internet. I have a fascination with this stuff as my name might indicate.
ObssesedNuker 7 months ago
@Professor6871 Where, with a regular nuke of 500 kilotons (which is the rough average of most modern strategic nuclear warheads), an ordinary human would be reduced to the consistency of a McDonalds hamburger in the first second after detonation.
ObssesedNuker 7 months ago
i really like this film, but it really should have invested in real american actors for the crew of the sub. Coz these guys acting as americans stink
Boobysoupy 1 year ago
@Boobysoupy most of them are "American", except for the US. president lol
anisete46 1 year ago
When the rich wage war, it's the poor who die
CazyWazyWooWoo 1 year ago
End of the day...which this movie represents...Dont blame the usa, don't blame the communists... blame al ofus asshole's that are willing to live with the god awful weapons. If we didn't have these weapons...asshole terrorists wouldn't want one. That's my soapbox moment for for what it's worth....and YES I believe in freedom!
musicalglenn 1 year ago
7:30, that guy is an Aussie with a horrible American accent lol
saintrobbie375 1 year ago
"Because I live, you will live also." Jesus - John 14:19 death is only a doorway to those who truly believe. No fear....hallelujah
janneyisin 1 year ago
@janneyisin There's absolutely no escaping you fuckers is there
chonchonchon 1 year ago 10
I was only joking. Bad joke. I am against war. I am for Congress to declare war, which they haven't done in over sixty years.
2242bzo 2 years ago
You can tell these guys weren't from the Bay Area. No one local would ever call SF, "Frisco."
arscon 2 years ago
When your a Sub Mariner, you arn't FROM the place you are based at. Your from your home town.
nineteenEcho 2 years ago
The sub commander didn't fire his warheads? Traitor, coward. Disobeying orders. Fire them nukes, for God and country, for democracy, for freedom, etc..........yeah, yeah, fuckin' yeah. Politicians who disregard humanity and our Constitution should be arrested.
2242bzo 2 years ago
"for democracy"...what democracy? The USA is and has never been a Democracy.
nineteenEcho 2 years ago
I was only kidding. The U.S. murders whole nations for the elite. I am against war and invading, conquering, and looting. I am for the Constitution. Only Congress may declare war. Congress hasn't declared war since WWII. What a disgrace!
2242bzo 2 years ago
Something inbetween a banana republic and a european democracy.
a little bit of everything actually.
The roman empire during the republic era called itself a democracy even when they had slavery, so democracy is just an idea. even the communist states call themselves a peoples democracy
Ericzeppe 1 year ago
Yeah, Sausalito... beautiful...how did they film it without any old hippies like me hanging out?
anisete46 2 years ago
whaa??? what is so controversial as to merit a thumbs down..? has hippie become a bad word???
anisete46 2 years ago
I'm not sure Treasure Island was still operational. the Army Base at the Presidio certainly wasn t... I lived there as a child in the early 60s...don't know what became of it...it was closed down some time ago;;
anisete46 2 years ago
Everything in San Fran Bay is now closed, thanx to the radical Democrats, 10's of thousands of Middle-class jobs gone over the 30 years.
Hunters Point, Mare Island, Treasure Island, Marin Headlands, The Presidio, Hamilton Field, Skagg's Island, Alameda, Moffett Field, etc, etc. everything but the Reserve Fleet Station.
But hey, Nancy Pelosi's husband is making HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS of Dollars off of it, so t's all good, Right?
tcrlaf 2 years ago
really miss the Presidio tho, spent my childhood there....
anisete46 2 years ago
bit of distortion towards the last few seconds
dbzlover2023 2 years ago
Felixuncia yes, as a matter of fact there are TWO escape hatches on the L.A. attack subs, one fore and one aft, made to match with a special rescue sub, perhaps you are speaking of the early version of the sub. I can't see how one man could escape through the hatch, since it takes a team to operate it. Someone on the inside has to regulate the flooding of the hatch.
There is NO WAY he could have gotten through the torp tube
no one will notice this plot hole, except on this blog, years later!
ddd1953 2 years ago
I noticed it.. :))
anisete46 2 years ago
Interesting point.. but hey what movie doesn't have a plot hole... I've seen hundreds :)).. and yes we will notice yur comment but before years later .. good call
anisete46 2 years ago
lollin at all the terrible fake american accents.
ancalites 2 years ago
That Bobbie Swain is so hot... very different from the guy who played in the movie...
anisete46 2 years ago
The thing that really bugged me about "Threads" was the way the government started treating it's people before the missiles fell. Surprising? Probably not but that part really got to me. Of course, it's an excellent movie & it may even highlight a point not covered in any flick; the rush for a diplomatic solution. 3 weeks between the base & the missile exchange. This movie, TDA, BDEL, it's a 1 day war. But in Threads, the 2 countries were working to turn it off.
Felixuncia 2 years ago
what do you mean about the govt in Thread s exactly?
anisete46 2 years ago
It started off when Ruth's parents phone to get her a doctor and find out the phones are all cut off. She is calling for medical aid and the gov't has decided that it is non essential. Or the gov't official opening up his emergency powers orders, people being picked up, tossed out of hospitals. Sure, it would probably happen but it was the factor of the movie that bugged me. For all the subjecation afterwards, it started before.
Felixuncia 2 years ago
I think that, unfortunately, that would be how things would indeed happen in a global crisis. if .H1N1 becomes lethal next autumn, we will probably see a lot of the same...
anisete46 2 years ago
Yeah, that movie is definitely not meant to be comforting. The lead-up to the war was scary. One thing that TDA did slightly better IMO was the tension in one day leading up to war. But Threads seemed more realistic in its leadup.
arscon 2 years ago
Pretty well made section of the film ..... except there is no forward torpedo room on a Los Angeles class submarine. Their torpedo room is just short of midships and 3 decks down, so there isn't an escape trunk, either. What he got out thru was the torpedo room on a Boomer.
Felixuncia 2 years ago
The untouched village they see in San Francisco is much how I imagined it in the book. However, in the book they watch him make ashore and see him move about the streets and enter his family home. I think he may even have taken a car or bike out and ride around the empty roads. This is a good version of the book but it's a real pity they didn't show that scene as it was written. Much of the rest of the film is.
gevans28 2 years ago
I didn't think people still used words like "woo"
anisete46 3 years ago
It's also a little inaccurate in so far as there hasn't been an active naval base on Treasure Island in decades. Doesn't detract from the film, though. I'm not one of those guys.
cosmicbullfight 3 years ago
An awesome Bobby's statement! Not "Good-bye" or "Farwell": "C ya guys! C ya all!" ... kicks ass!
ezraakave 3 years ago
I lived at the Presidio, south of the bridge in the late 50s.. apart from Treasure Island, why would SF be a target?
anisete46 3 years ago
probably every big city would be a target
XBoyZontherun 3 years ago
There was a naval base also in SF so that's another bullseye. :(
arscon 3 years ago
There's a big navy base in Alameda plus an old Naval Air Station(Now closed) called Moffet down near San Jose. Plus there was the main airport near SF itself.
airdriver 3 years ago
There's also Travis Air Force Base up in the North Bay, and several other strategic targets within 50 miles of the city itself.
cosmicbullfight 3 years ago
OK guess I didn't realize that as a child... we lived on the Presidio, my dad was just an Army medical officer... when we lived at Ft. Sam in Texas during the Cuban missile crisis, it was much scarier...
anisete46 3 years ago
If all military of all countries, could make the same decision: "There didn't seem much point"..
anisete46 3 years ago
Sad, the final second...But I'm wondering: Are the dark clouds above San Francisco (not seen in Anchorage, by the way) supposed to be interpreted as nuclear winter?
NotOnlySelfLover 4 years ago
That's not nuclear winter its too sunny and warm for that. Nevill Shute wrote this book before the phenomenon of nuclear winter caused by atomic weapons, was even known about. Radiation was the only long term threat that was known then. Anyway the Chinese would launch a few missiles at Ausralia and New Zealand if any war took place. This TV film is pure fantasy that Australia would be untouched by the intital war.
turner60 3 years ago 4
Ther were no laptops either at Shute`s times - but nevertheless thanks for your response.
NotOnlySelfLover 3 years ago
Is that all you've got to say on the subject? A rather facile reply to my comment there I have to say. Obviously this is a modern contemporary interpretation of Shute's book, and so naturally there would be laptops and the Internet in it. Shute wrote this novel in 1957 or so when nuclear weapons had not been proliferated much as they are now. Lets have debate instead of this near monosyllabic reply that you have given me?
turner60 3 years ago
Of course. Excuse me for offending you. I ment to say that as this obviously is a modern interpretation of the novel, as you say, it is not unthinkable for scientific details to be updated as well if the core of the story and its ideas and messages do not suffer from it. And I am indeed very interested in this topic, as you can see from my comments on other nuclear war movies here on YouTube (The Day After, Threads - the latter UNFORTUNATELY removed)and look forward to any meaningful debate.
NotOnlySelfLover 3 years ago
Not so! Still can see Threads as well as "Sound an alarm" - a UK film made for the observer Corps which takes a very positive view!
anthonythirteen 3 years ago
will check that out
anisete46 2 years ago
Was Threads removed or just your comment? I seem to remember watching it again recently...
anisete46 3 years ago
Threads was removed, the one I had partly watched. But another user was kind enough to upload it again.
NotOnlySelfLover 3 years ago
Threads is on google video. It's two hours long and it's in one long video with no separations.
Romeoblackwater 2 years ago
threads is the most disturbing thing i've ever seen
fdny9682 2 years ago
Same
Romeoblackwater 2 years ago
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irish89055 1 year ago
thanks for the heads up
anisete46 2 years ago
No problem
Romeoblackwater 2 years ago
If you live in SF, you know all about the famous fog and gray summers (though it's been rather sunny and warm this year.)
Maybe nuclear winter too.
arscon 3 years ago