As one with limited knowledge of Carnatic music, but nevertheless enjoys it, I was captivated by Sri TNS's alapana (?) of Hindolam. I am not sure how many musicians can do this! Can somebody post the whole alapana of Hindolam?
The so called big names in carnatic music in chennai...they dont understand that music has to surpass techniques and should feel 'nice' to the ears... A group of jokers say 'wah, wah bale bale' and others follow suit...lol
Im amazed by the way he can seamlessly do the brigas. A very nice alapana, but like someone said it came at a cost. 0:36 has an apaswara, Ni3 (?). Awesome max, otherwise.
In Hindustani, the taans in Malkauns would have been rendered with greater beauty. The South does not care for beauty or shringaram and is just technical.
just because malkauns and hindolam share the same notes it does not mean they are the same raag. malkauns in hindustani music has a totally different 'feeling' to carnatic hindolam, so it is fruitless to compare.
The vocal power of TNS and his virtuosity are unquestionable. But sometimes he gets carried away. I remember an otherwise splendid kutcheri in Cochin (circa 1994) wherein something snapped and his swara rendition in Todi trangressed into another raga!
But, lest we forget, some strangeness in the proportion is often characteristic of genius and along with BMK, TNS is a true musical genius of our times.
Alapana essentially refers to the expansion of a raga well confined to its limits as exemplified by the typical swaras or notes and sancharas or characteristics of the given raga. Gamakas, with reference to Indian music , denote the subtle , yet sublime variation of pitch of a note, by resorting to the usage of heavy forceful oscillations between adjacent and distant notes. Brigas refer to electrifying transitions up and down the scale (Arohana,Avarohana) of a given raga.
Utubevelloreears" thank you for the information. So are gamakam and briga essentially the same. Can you please point out an example. As per your defenition, will it be correct to say that hindustani music adotes briga usage while carnatic music is more on gamakam?
I don't think your judgement of my "knowledge" is of any concern to anyone nor is it of any concern to me in particular. That being said, there is complexity in simplicity. What is complex isn't necessarily what is good. If you dont understand this, you should listen to MD Ramanathan. People that claim to be "knowledgeable" are the ones who struggle to understand music for what it is, a subjective art, open to interpretation.
and your "assessment" of TNS's music and my knowledge couldn't have made me care any less.. I have listened to a lot of MDR's renditions- I am in agreement with you that he is great. People who criticize TNS's way of singing as being complex are simply those who are speaking out of jealousy boss.. before doing that.. please make a self assessment of your own self to see if you can even identify the basic math (kanakku) in any of his RTP's.. or do you even know wat an RTP is?
Impressive singing, with breath-taking brigas. I call this briga-oriented singing. But Carnatic music is gamaka-oriented, not briga-oriented. Carnatic music sounds better when sung with proper gamakas. At high speed, gamakas go out the door. He is pleasant to hear when he sings in slow or medium tempo: e.g., when he sings Surati at madhyama kala. Vocalists should give gamakas their prime and proper place, and sing with bhava, as the Alathoor Brothers and Madurai Mani Iyer did.
sounds like a choo-choo train. To each their own I suppose. Rendering the most technically difficult combinations isn't necessarily the most pleasing to the ear. There are people who can play guitar and lightning speeds. Doesn't mean a thing.
yes.. probably true.. it wont mean a thing to you anyways if you dont understand it.. how can one appreciate certain things if he is totally ignorant.. applies in your case!
hmm. sure, that was breathtaking.. but seriously, guys, haven't you heard a better hindolam in your life? hyping up stuff like this conveys a wrong idea about carnatic listeners.
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you know absolutely nothing about carnatic music buddy. aesthetics are a huge part of carnatic music; however, a voice which can execute such phenomenal brigaa is to be celebrated. one must use it to it's full power. TNS is god. maybe you have people who sing nice sangathees in hindolam that everybody likes, but this is true innovation with proper raga bhavam. you suck balls buddy.
holy shit. i have a recording in kalyani TNS from like 1970. amma ravamma it's like a 3 minute brigaa fest building on the Nishadam and everybody claps afterwards when he comes back to the Nishadam and touches Shadjam.
This is incredible. Shame on the fools who tried to judge this master.
adiddude 3 weeks ago
ah this thing is really breath taking,wat a breath control
barathmusic2009 1 month ago
As one with limited knowledge of Carnatic music, but nevertheless enjoys it, I was captivated by Sri TNS's alapana (?) of Hindolam. I am not sure how many musicians can do this! Can somebody post the whole alapana of Hindolam?
thodilover 5 months ago
However beautiful combination of notes he uses; everything is spoiled by his lack of discipline to adhere to harmony(Sruthi)
Chempadu123 1 year ago
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hey who the hell do you think you are? you stupid screw bag...your talking about apaswaram...you can hardly fart when you are in that age...
paintshroedinger 1 year ago
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hey who the fuck do you think you are? you stupid fuck head...your talking about apaswaram...you can hardly fart when you are in that age...
paintshroedinger 1 year ago
hey who the fuck do you think you are? you stupid fuck head...your talking about apaswaram...you can hardly fart in that age...
paintshroedinger 1 year ago
hey who the fuck do you think you are? you stupid fuck head...your talking about abaswaram...you can hardly fart in that age...
paintshroedinger 1 year ago
The so called big names in carnatic music in chennai...they dont understand that music has to surpass techniques and should feel 'nice' to the ears... A group of jokers say 'wah, wah bale bale' and others follow suit...lol
sangeetha216 1 year ago
@sangeetha216 What do you mean to say??? Is this one good or not
integrateindia 3 months ago
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le le le le ahh le le, sounds like a goat sucking sick.
kaybabeyyy123 1 year ago
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how many of them have you sucked...you seem to knowing about sucking sounds
paintshroedinger 1 year ago
Im amazed by the way he can seamlessly do the brigas. A very nice alapana, but like someone said it came at a cost. 0:36 has an apaswara, Ni3 (?). Awesome max, otherwise.
youisfun 1 year ago
Mr Panchamkauns... There is nothing weird in him.. may be in you... !!!
Prasad92751 1 year ago
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vickra2007 1 year ago
see the guy beside him continious shaking head trying to tell ...ITS WRONG,,,NO.. NO.. NO.. NO..
4923ariwan 1 year ago
@4923ariwan ha ha.. that is the funniest interpretation of an acknowledgment.
someac 1 year ago
@4923ariwan
YES :))
Bushrraff 1 year ago
@4923ariwan
YES :)) I agree with you!
Bushrraff 1 year ago
In Hindustani, the taans in Malkauns would have been rendered with greater beauty. The South does not care for beauty or shringaram and is just technical.
vs gopal
vsgopalakrishnan 1 year ago
@vsgopalakrishnan
just because malkauns and hindolam share the same notes it does not mean they are the same raag. malkauns in hindustani music has a totally different 'feeling' to carnatic hindolam, so it is fruitless to compare.
korektphool 1 year ago
He took breath many times in between.. Looks, he has OVER done, spoiling the mood of the beautiful raga.
Bushrraff 1 year ago
amazing..........
revakishore 2 years ago
Yes, Seshagopalan does some weird stuff sometimes. He has given concerts where he played a synthesizer instead of singing. But what a singer he is!!
panchamkauns 2 years ago
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Holly fuck
:O
oh my gosh
92Bremely 2 years ago
I agree with sramkris70...however, TNS sometimes almost never cares about proper diction when he sings.
knagaraj 2 years ago
The vocal power of TNS and his virtuosity are unquestionable. But sometimes he gets carried away. I remember an otherwise splendid kutcheri in Cochin (circa 1994) wherein something snapped and his swara rendition in Todi trangressed into another raga!
But, lest we forget, some strangeness in the proportion is often characteristic of genius and along with BMK, TNS is a true musical genius of our times.
sramkris70 2 years ago
One of the Amazing renditions.... i like his way of singing,......
9941150163 2 years ago
Most welcome 9941150163
utubevellorears 2 years ago
can anyone explain what is Alapana, gamaka & briga... ? please.......
9941150163 2 years ago
Alapana essentially refers to the expansion of a raga well confined to its limits as exemplified by the typical swaras or notes and sancharas or characteristics of the given raga. Gamakas, with reference to Indian music , denote the subtle , yet sublime variation of pitch of a note, by resorting to the usage of heavy forceful oscillations between adjacent and distant notes. Brigas refer to electrifying transitions up and down the scale (Arohana,Avarohana) of a given raga.
utubevellorears 2 years ago 3
thank you utubevellorears........ now i understand to my best,
9941150163 2 years ago
Utubevelloreears" thank you for the information. So are gamakam and briga essentially the same. Can you please point out an example. As per your defenition, will it be correct to say that hindustani music adotes briga usage while carnatic music is more on gamakam?
uptothe 2 years ago
@9941150163 think of Alapana as a metaphor of life: freedom with limits! ;)
Ooga001 1 year ago
I don't think your judgement of my "knowledge" is of any concern to anyone nor is it of any concern to me in particular. That being said, there is complexity in simplicity. What is complex isn't necessarily what is good. If you dont understand this, you should listen to MD Ramanathan. People that claim to be "knowledgeable" are the ones who struggle to understand music for what it is, a subjective art, open to interpretation.
guitarguy1381 3 years ago
and your "assessment" of TNS's music and my knowledge couldn't have made me care any less.. I have listened to a lot of MDR's renditions- I am in agreement with you that he is great. People who criticize TNS's way of singing as being complex are simply those who are speaking out of jealousy boss.. before doing that.. please make a self assessment of your own self to see if you can even identify the basic math (kanakku) in any of his RTP's.. or do you even know wat an RTP is?
totalflirtster 3 years ago
Impressive singing, with breath-taking brigas. I call this briga-oriented singing. But Carnatic music is gamaka-oriented, not briga-oriented. Carnatic music sounds better when sung with proper gamakas. At high speed, gamakas go out the door. He is pleasant to hear when he sings in slow or medium tempo: e.g., when he sings Surati at madhyama kala. Vocalists should give gamakas their prime and proper place, and sing with bhava, as the Alathoor Brothers and Madurai Mani Iyer did.
Yesh Prabhu
writer2244 3 years ago
dude.. i think it takes amazing brilliance to sing such stuff man.. and some knowledge to even understand this!
totalflirtster 3 years ago
sounds like a choo-choo train. To each their own I suppose. Rendering the most technically difficult combinations isn't necessarily the most pleasing to the ear. There are people who can play guitar and lightning speeds. Doesn't mean a thing.
guitarguy1381 3 years ago
yes.. probably true.. it wont mean a thing to you anyways if you dont understand it.. how can one appreciate certain things if he is totally ignorant.. applies in your case!
totalflirtster 3 years ago
I loved this. I liked Jon Higgins' Hindolam too, actually. :)
schopenhauersring 3 years ago
which one came first - chicken or egg ? well, what ever you ordered first !!
ksmani01 3 years ago
i have a question. i'm not very knowledgeable abt carnatic music, but i do follow hindustani classical very closely.
which came first: hindolam or malkauns?
cricketlover1117 3 years ago
amazing Hindolam! no one can equal TNS!
totalflirtster 3 years ago
yes its really breathtaking hindolam . nodoubt hes saraswathys amsam.longlive tns
shankari15bala 3 years ago
hmm. sure, that was breathtaking.. but seriously, guys, haven't you heard a better hindolam in your life? hyping up stuff like this conveys a wrong idea about carnatic listeners.
savvysubu 3 years ago
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you know absolutely nothing about carnatic music buddy. aesthetics are a huge part of carnatic music; however, a voice which can execute such phenomenal brigaa is to be celebrated. one must use it to it's full power. TNS is god. maybe you have people who sing nice sangathees in hindolam that everybody likes, but this is true innovation with proper raga bhavam. you suck balls buddy.
imsupersmart815 3 years ago
that was outta this freakin world!!
bugsnspikes 3 years ago
holy shit. i have a recording in kalyani TNS from like 1970. amma ravamma it's like a 3 minute brigaa fest building on the Nishadam and everybody claps afterwards when he comes back to the Nishadam and touches Shadjam.
imsupersmart815 3 years ago