i just got accepted in the aus army as a crewman mbt... im lebanese muslim but born here so this makes me australian and im proud to be accepted to help fight side by side with my australian brothers...
I hope you know i is haram to participate in the Australian army. I'm also a Muslim with a Lebanese background born in Australia... means squat. I'm a MUSLIM not leb or Aus. My alligence is to Allah and not to a kafir gov't. What you need to do now is leave the army and work for none but Allah
@Babdelwahed and ur way of looking at things is why the world is so fucked up u think about urself saedharrouk thinks about others we need more people like him in the world and this country
Actually I think about others more then you believe. I care for all mankind. But the issue isnt about me. Seeing as your making the statement please enlighten me to your point of view
@Babdelwahed u tell this perosn who is willing to help his nation what he is doing is haram also ur statement about not being of any country but ur faith u would know that would cause tention also this intier work for only allah that would be a very selfish way of looking at things u basically said dnt help any1 but urself
Helping your nation is one thing and the laws and commandments of Allah is another.
The fact that I dont wish to hold a nationality per say means that I will unconditionally help out more people not mainly my own. I didnt say dont help people I said help people in the right way... joinging the army is not the right way esp if your being sent to fight fellow muslims
fellow muslims that spread hate and murder yeah there the people he should help. joining the army isnt just about fighting they go to places hit by natrual disasters and help rebuild, bring food, water, cleaning equipment provide security i have a pround military history in my family and proud to be australian. and this i can help more people if i dont hold a nationality is bs look at the middle east jews and islamics kill each other because of there blifes religoin causes tention
your Jew v Muslims example really shows the shallowness of your insight on the matter.
Yes an army is goes out and helps in certain situations though there are other means to help in those situations ... also the use of armies even during natural disasters is more often then not a political exercise.
There is very little point in discussing the islamic position on the matter due to the assumption your not muslim.(state if otherwise.)
@Babdelwahed no im not muslim im athiest also my dad served in iraq i served in afgan the people he and i have talked to want us there because they dont want the taleban incontrol they feel safer example they r able to grow the crops they want not the opium the taleban makes them grow i was helping ana who want the taleban gone and us there and yes u never said spread hate u said to fight fellow muslims taleban are musilims they spread hate thats who we are fighting
Hey mate. I'm an Aussie atheist too. I appreciate the efforts of yourself and your father in the Iraq and Afghanistan war. No one can blame soldiers in democratic countries for starting wars, as they come under the command of the democratically elected government.
On an unrelated note: I hate the Taliban. They're a bunch of nasty, vile and uneducated religious halfwits engaging in a primitive struggle. They stone women/homosexuals and apostates to death. They need to be confronted.
@Babdelwahed how can you say that joining the army is not the right way in helping others religion is not even the right way too, a lot of people drop out of religion mainly because they're either been sexually abused, violently beaten up, scabbing money from you or simply just trying to brainwash you.
plus there are sub groups of each of the three main faiths that are always constantly at each other's throats.
lastly the taliban are muslims so are you supporting them because of that?
@saedharrouk thats great that you're doing your part, in two weeks im going to kapooka then off to singo for infantry training. my only problem with your comment is that you said you were born here so you're australian. thats like saying if a dog is born in a barn its a horse.
@wellthennevermind No it's not, as a naturalized citizen he has the same right to being Australian as you do mate, your logic is flawed. You were born in a hospital so does that make you a hospitalized citizen? That's a similar train of thought to what you said. I was born here, I am Australian, I come from a mixed cultural background but am no less aussie than you.
He has citizenship, a certificate verifying his status as Australian. So fuck you, learn some respect, fuckhead.
@Abbaddon09 i was actually talking about the heritage and cultural background of people, lets just think for a sec, if i was born overseas to my current parents who are both australian, but i was born in germany, the wouldn't make me german.. just because you are born somewhere doesn't mean that is your homeland..an another thing, everyone has a mixed cultural background, so stop thinking you're something special and unique, because you're not..
@saedharrouk Ignore what the other dickhead said, he is simply unaccustomed to cultures he can't, or chooses not to understand. You are as much of an Australian as anyone else here; your certificate of citizenship verifies that. If people with 'un-Australian' heritage weren't considered Australians even though they were born here, I highly doubt anyone living here could be considered Australian. As a citizen you ARE Australian, even if you are an Australian with a distinct cultural origin.
@saedharrouk Don't be a fool with your life - wars make one not great. Fighting and killing to get what you want will have severe karmic repercussions on you. Fix what is wrong with your own neighborhood instead of messing about with another country.
@jimbolightningy he said he was born in Australia so he dosnt need to do it, only applies if your a citizen of a country that requires national service
This is why us Australian troops are so good at war becouse we understand that war is like a game of chess.Not running in there like rambo,the yanks have all the good toy's but dont know how to use them.
yeah fuck off and leave us alone! 4RAR's doing a fantastic job, anyone that thinks otherwise, join up, and go fight yourself, put YOUR life on the line, see how good of a job you can do
Just fuck off and leave us alone, fuckin hell, try doing it yourself. This never happened to digs from WW1 and WW2. For fucks sake, just let us do our fucking job.
the american senior officer said 'assghanistan' at 8:26
MarekUtd 1 year ago
im off to kapooka on 13th april 2010... finaly a date.. =D
oh and thanks to the guys that backed me up on my last comment left...
saedharrouk 1 year ago
General Dan Mcneill sounds like george bush.
ausbigshot 2 years ago
i just got accepted in the aus army as a crewman mbt... im lebanese muslim but born here so this makes me australian and im proud to be accepted to help fight side by side with my australian brothers...
and to be able to protect my motherland...
LONG LIVE AUSTRALIA!!!!.....
saedharrouk 2 years ago 31
I hope you know i is haram to participate in the Australian army. I'm also a Muslim with a Lebanese background born in Australia... means squat. I'm a MUSLIM not leb or Aus. My alligence is to Allah and not to a kafir gov't. What you need to do now is leave the army and work for none but Allah
Babdelwahed 2 years ago
@Babdelwahed and ur way of looking at things is why the world is so fucked up u think about urself saedharrouk thinks about others we need more people like him in the world and this country
nachospole1 2 years ago
Actually I think about others more then you believe. I care for all mankind. But the issue isnt about me. Seeing as your making the statement please enlighten me to your point of view
Babdelwahed 2 years ago
@Babdelwahed u tell this perosn who is willing to help his nation what he is doing is haram also ur statement about not being of any country but ur faith u would know that would cause tention also this intier work for only allah that would be a very selfish way of looking at things u basically said dnt help any1 but urself
nachospole1 2 years ago
Helping your nation is one thing and the laws and commandments of Allah is another.
The fact that I dont wish to hold a nationality per say means that I will unconditionally help out more people not mainly my own. I didnt say dont help people I said help people in the right way... joinging the army is not the right way esp if your being sent to fight fellow muslims
Babdelwahed 2 years ago
fellow muslims that spread hate and murder yeah there the people he should help. joining the army isnt just about fighting they go to places hit by natrual disasters and help rebuild, bring food, water, cleaning equipment provide security i have a pround military history in my family and proud to be australian. and this i can help more people if i dont hold a nationality is bs look at the middle east jews and islamics kill each other because of there blifes religoin causes tention
nachospole1 2 years ago
your Jew v Muslims example really shows the shallowness of your insight on the matter.
Yes an army is goes out and helps in certain situations though there are other means to help in those situations ... also the use of armies even during natural disasters is more often then not a political exercise.
There is very little point in discussing the islamic position on the matter due to the assumption your not muslim.(state if otherwise.)
Babdelwahed 2 years ago
Also I never said to help spread hate and murder...you make it out as if it is the muslims who are spreading these things.
There is evidence after evidence that the people are against the coalition in there countries that INCLUDES australia
Babdelwahed 2 years ago
@Babdelwahed no im not muslim im athiest also my dad served in iraq i served in afgan the people he and i have talked to want us there because they dont want the taleban incontrol they feel safer example they r able to grow the crops they want not the opium the taleban makes them grow i was helping ana who want the taleban gone and us there and yes u never said spread hate u said to fight fellow muslims taleban are musilims they spread hate thats who we are fighting
nachospole1 2 years ago
Hey mate. I'm an Aussie atheist too. I appreciate the efforts of yourself and your father in the Iraq and Afghanistan war. No one can blame soldiers in democratic countries for starting wars, as they come under the command of the democratically elected government.
On an unrelated note: I hate the Taliban. They're a bunch of nasty, vile and uneducated religious halfwits engaging in a primitive struggle. They stone women/homosexuals and apostates to death. They need to be confronted.
PR0GRAMMING 2 years ago
@PR0GRAMMING let the Taliban destroy themselves. Just a bunch of stupid crazy old dickheads whose bark is worse than their bite. Fuck 'em.
laissezfayre 1 year ago
@Babdelwahed how can you say that joining the army is not the right way in helping others religion is not even the right way too, a lot of people drop out of religion mainly because they're either been sexually abused, violently beaten up, scabbing money from you or simply just trying to brainwash you.
plus there are sub groups of each of the three main faiths that are always constantly at each other's throats.
lastly the taliban are muslims so are you supporting them because of that?
MrMaffew87 11 months ago
"My alligence is to Allah and not to a kafir gov't"
"I'm a MUSLIM not leb or Aus."
You don't really believe in a deity do you? I sure hop not.
PR0GRAMMING 2 years ago
@saedharrouk Your a mad fella =D
WTFworldtankfed 1 year ago
@saedharrouk thats great that you're doing your part, in two weeks im going to kapooka then off to singo for infantry training. my only problem with your comment is that you said you were born here so you're australian. thats like saying if a dog is born in a barn its a horse.
wellthennevermind 1 year ago
@wellthennevermind No it's not, as a naturalized citizen he has the same right to being Australian as you do mate, your logic is flawed. You were born in a hospital so does that make you a hospitalized citizen? That's a similar train of thought to what you said. I was born here, I am Australian, I come from a mixed cultural background but am no less aussie than you.
He has citizenship, a certificate verifying his status as Australian. So fuck you, learn some respect, fuckhead.
Abbaddon09 1 year ago
@Abbaddon09 i was actually talking about the heritage and cultural background of people, lets just think for a sec, if i was born overseas to my current parents who are both australian, but i was born in germany, the wouldn't make me german.. just because you are born somewhere doesn't mean that is your homeland..an another thing, everyone has a mixed cultural background, so stop thinking you're something special and unique, because you're not..
wellthennevermind 11 months ago
@wellthennevermind " just because an animal was born in a stable does not necessarily mean it's a horse"
Arthur wellesley 1st duke of wellington.
MrMaffew87 11 months ago
If saedharrouk really loves this country as much as it looks like then his is an australian to me
patnagorb 1 year ago
@saedharrouk Ignore what the other dickhead said, he is simply unaccustomed to cultures he can't, or chooses not to understand. You are as much of an Australian as anyone else here; your certificate of citizenship verifies that. If people with 'un-Australian' heritage weren't considered Australians even though they were born here, I highly doubt anyone living here could be considered Australian. As a citizen you ARE Australian, even if you are an Australian with a distinct cultural origin.
Abbaddon09 1 year ago
@saedharrouk Don't be a fool with your life - wars make one not great. Fighting and killing to get what you want will have severe karmic repercussions on you. Fix what is wrong with your own neighborhood instead of messing about with another country.
laissezfayre 1 year ago
@saedharrouk dont you have to national service like the turks
jimbolightningy 7 months ago
@jimbolightningy he said he was born in Australia so he dosnt need to do it, only applies if your a citizen of a country that requires national service
WhoDaresWins1189 4 months ago
Goodonya Diggers !!
waynejingo 2 years ago 3
This is why us Australian troops are so good at war becouse we understand that war is like a game of chess.Not running in there like rambo,the yanks have all the good toy's but dont know how to use them.
fpvshitsonhsv 2 years ago 3
megdethpl. - the 4th battalion isnt the only battalion over there. remember the other other regiments mate. their doin the hard yards aswell.
DizTortion09 2 years ago
God Bless all fighting troops.
ethicomm 3 years ago 9
@ethicomm fuck the war in Afghanistan.
laissezfayre 1 year ago
yeah fuck off and leave us alone! 4RAR's doing a fantastic job, anyone that thinks otherwise, join up, and go fight yourself, put YOUR life on the line, see how good of a job you can do
megdethpl 3 years ago
Just fuck off and leave us alone, fuckin hell, try doing it yourself. This never happened to digs from WW1 and WW2. For fucks sake, just let us do our fucking job.
7nspj 3 years ago