U have a good idea but when the ship hit the bodom the bow broke by the super struckture and the ship is geting really weak and u got to think about the pepole who died that's their grave but good idea
He stupid ass! If you're from the future...then you have the ability to go back farther than 2007 to save the fuckin' ship from sinking! Take your meds future boy.
ship, it also might destroy it because right now its almost perfectly preserved in the ocean.. there are still dolls and painting where the only thing wrong is coral growing on it. also its great for ocean life.. people around the world are sinking old ships to create homes and bases for new corral reefs ..the tittanic is already one so by taking it up they would greatly impact the ecosystem surrounding it
They could pull it out of the water.. they have all the equipment to. It's not a question of if they can it's whether its right or not. Most people think that taking it up would be disrespectful to the people resting peacfully after their death on the
A similar plan to yours was proposed when it sank which involved ping pong balls (believe it or not!). The problem is however, Titanic is 12,500 feet below the surface of the water. Due to the immense pressure, the raft will just burst. Using hard containers to withstand the pressure can be extremely expensive.
Secondly, the ship is being eaten away by a bacteria (200 lbs a day!) it has many holes and structure is so weak that even if we lift it, it will break it many more pieces and fall again
ok i beleive it should be raised not to be disrespectful but just because it is breaking apart way too much if we dont raise it soon its going to be basically copletely gone
BUT COME ON IF THIS WOULD WORK THEY WOULD OF ALREADY DONE IT
there r several things wrong with this idea! 1st thing is sumting u learn in scuba: air compresses onderwater, so those life rafts will not fill completely or even probly enven fill halfway. 2nd the other half 2 that is if by some mircle it works, wen it rises the opposite will happen, the air will expand which will make the ship rise way 2 fast, which will rip it apart! the other thing is its not only a gravesite its a "house" 4 fish and by law u cant raise it
if you had be down there 3 and a half miles you would see for yourself the condition of the wreck, it's physically impossible to pull a rusty thin crust out of 60 feet of mud down that depth, there is more chance of you raising the atlantic than raising the titanic!
or you could just get scottie to lock onto it's coordinates.
wtf it would rip it self to bits in the first 5 seconds its got over 50+ years of corsion of saltwater and other aquatic damage and please if you dont know what the heck your talking about DONT It only shows how stupid you are pluss THATS A FKING GRAVE FOR ONLY A COPPLE THOUSAND PEOPLE
this was the most boring vedio i have scene, i was waiting for the rick-riddel to pop up but i got this vedio... the titanic cant be raised it is just pure logic. the steel is failing for years, all the bolts are mostly rusted away. it would fall apart when it is coming up. did anybody see when they raised the moniter? they had to bring it up in so many harnesses cause it was falling apart and it was a 50 ft civil war sub.
You can't raise it. It's freezed on the bottom, you have to make the bottom so hot so the Titanic will get lost of it. You can't fix the ship, it's very hard damaged.
This whole theory would work in a smaller scale, but not on Titanic. First, she is buried into the silt by about what, 50 feet. Secondly, the metal has been failing all these years and there is no way it could take the strain of this. Thirdly, there is no way to get that much air down there to it. The pressures involved would keep you from pumping air down to her or sending tanks down there. Lets just face it, Titanic wil dissapear here in the near future forever.
Honestly my friend. The world is a technical place. You really didn't expect the world to hold you up on their shoulders and say "Why didn't we think of this" now did you? I'm not even sure why you sent me back such a responce. I didn't attempt to tear you down. You proposal did that for me.
First, you insult my intelligence.. then you deny doing it... What are you thinking?? And yes I do expect some people to help me... especially since I'm from the future! I have knowledge that can help you people now... All of you should take advantage of it while you can. You should be studying my videos and comments to learn from me... and ask me questions... Why is that so hard for you arrogant humans to understand?
Yes my friend. The logic is sound but real life is always a bit harder. Lifting bags have been used to bring many objects up to the surface but it is a delicate process because each bag must be matched in pressure to the others. If a single bag were to be used it would have to be positioned midship and the stresses would be too great in most cases. A vessel on the bottom can be a very fragile object. Once again. Nice theory.
I assumed that since I stated in my video that numerous floatation devices would have to be used throughout the ship that you would have understood that it still applied to my last comment. I keep expecting people to make intellectual leaps that they just seem incapable of making... My mistake. I apologize for expecting too much from you all in this time period...
The Titanic holds special meaning to me. I will be leading an expedition to the site where she sank next year. Your idea is not without merit but there are several problems. The hull would never withstand the brutal force of being raised and to inflate anything that deep would require incredible air pressure due to the fact that the water pressure down there is 6000 pounds per square inch. I like your thinking though. It just would not work under actual real world conditions.
Thanks. As I've mentioned before, Titanic is just a well known ship I used as an example.. not expecting anyone to actually do it. It would, however, have application for other vessels that could withstand this.
Secondly, in the future they actually use purified water, which is then electrolysized at the level of the sunken vessel, and finally oxygen is allowed to flow up into a container that resembles the shape of a parachute in order to create lift of the vessel to the surface. Unfortunately I didnt have enough time to include info like this on the video... had to give only the basic idea within 10 minutes time.
The Titanic is in pieces on the ocean floor, not mention the years of corrosion it has under gone. In fact the stern of the ship was practically destroyed on the ways down, guess why, pockets of trapped air!
this is impossible it would take millions of life rafts and the hole would need to be repaired aswell as the snaped bow. what a waste of 8minutes 17seconds you are a retard
Wow..! You missed the whole point of this... could be used on other sunken vessels... just used the Titanic as an example.. etc... Very narrow-minded. You're definitely not a team-player...
Im not sure if im correct, And i no your only using the Titanic as an example.
But i don't think the Titanic is able to be raised due to it being a memorial/grave site. Because of all the people that died there and it would be like disrespectful could you say?
You could raise the Titanic many different ways but why would you want to? Its a habitat for marine life now, It is also the resting ground of all those poor people. Besides who would want to take responsibility of raising the Titanic and keeping it. No one!
I think it would be like pulling a biscuit out of hot coffee. The deck would not be able to hold the weight of the outer hull. It's two hours to the surface.
Navy divers and salvage operators have known this for years. Of course it works, quite well on small applications. The pressure at that depth it is unlikely that you could inflate a simple airbag. The containment device would need to be so heavy that it would be lucky to even lift its own weight. If you could even displace the amount of water required the ships hull would likely fall apart during ascent. Not to mention exposing the hull to the atmosphere would cause rapid deterioration.
Oh.. absolutely not. How can we live with ourselves if we can retrieve something from the moon (soil samples), but can't even retrieve something from the bottom of our own ocean?... We need to do this. We need to prove that we are capable of doing this. For shame... for shame... if we don't. @titaniclibery333
your description is quite eduacational technocreep. Thanks for the video. The guy who proposed using ping pong balls was Douglass ? something. Not as crazy as he was sounding, the principle is correct his method was wrong. Ping pong balls would not stand the great depth where Titanic lies. Remember styrofoam cups thrown overboard during expeditions were crushed to the size of a thumbnail. I would try raising Lusitania or Britannic first(both in shallower water) as a warmup to Titanic.
The question would be why? Why raise it? It's not like it's hiding some secret to further our current technology or holding a much needed secret. It would be interesting to say the least, but how would they keep it floating being torn in two? What would they put the bow on or how would they get it to where ever they wanted to take it? I don't know if it could handle even being moved. I'm not saying it's impossible, but not easy.
To prove it can be done... And besides, wouldn't it be nice if we could put people to rest even though the bodies have sunk that far down in the ocean? @DarkTruth33
there are no bodies on the ship or around it. They've decayed or have been eaten decades ago. Symbolically the ship is a grave for those people. It's a moral question of grave robbing which for all intensive purposes has already been done by RMS Titanic INcorporated. Yes it could be done if only that we learn from the ship itself the lessons to never let a disaster like that happen again. The ship itself still may have something to teach if only by raising. Who knows?
con't: the main obstacle to raising the ship has always been that victims bodies one lay among it's ruins. Another question is that the Titanic is certainly not going to last forever down there and should an attempt to raise it while there's still a ship to raise should be done? or should survivor's wishes that their lost loved ones be left alone and the ship is there only grave? it is a tough question concerning this ship's place in world history.
The ship could be raised, in fact it could've been raised a long time ago. The technology exists and/or could be created. One would be a giant underwater floating dock that could rise, like a hot air balloon rises into the atmosphere, bringing the bow to the surface. It could also descend for safety purposes(ie storms). This platform would cost a ton of money but it's not impossible. The main issue has always been the fact that the ship is an underwater cemetary. It's a moral ?
It's been done already. You just don't know that they're keeping it a secret. The real Titanic is hidden in a science building somewhere. Those videos you see of Titanic are just an underwater stage, a set, fake. LMAO
Probablu true, but this is still a fun idea. What you'd also need, if you still want to do this, is some kind of net or sieve underneath the ship to catch the crumbly bits. In fact, if you raised the ship slowly, it might not just break apart; you'd still need to hold everything together.
The point is that this could work for any ship in decent condition.
Well, the trouble with that ida is that the very metal of the ship itself is being eaten by some type of microbe, & has weakedned the hull to the extent that the only way to preserve it is to leave it alone.
To be certain, this is not always the case, as I have read accounts where they have brought up WW-II aircraft intact after 50 some years.
well your not the first to think of it, many years ago a guy on tv said fill it up with ping-pong balls, but as they said at the time you cant gat air down that far. if you used small tanks to get it down it would take a thousand trips, and as i said if you could get air down there and fill the titanic or any other ship it would just sit there, the mud would not let it go
We can't get air down that far?!?! What do you think the guys in the submersibles are breathing when they are filming the Titanic??? If what you said were true, we wouldn't have any film on Titanic. And as for the mud, it could be dug out. I guess it doesn't matter, though, because it wouldn't be someone like you who would accomplish it, so I might as well stop waisting my time with you... @gaylordbazza
titanic 1912 if rose died never mind but if she didnt pull titanic up and let her walk on it her brain might rember were her room is where every thing is
okay raising 3/4 of a ship, with countless wholes in it, not to mention the huge one at the back where the stern used to be. the forcastle deck conpletely buckled and a structure thats weaker than a baby. yeahh.......
that concept has already been done, it could be done on a large scale it just takes money and lots of it. on such a large scale you would need R&D to deveolpe special air pockets straps and a way of stabalisation for the ship when surfacing it
no offence but it wouldnt be very sensible because it would be like removing somebodys grave. you wouldnt like it if somebody dug up your grave and put it in a museum. I am not starting any arguments i am just giving my point of view.
Agreed, no argument, but would you now go back and read how many times I've already responded to this same sentiment... and what my response actually was...
But the thing is the majority of the people that died died on the surface of the ocean and their bodies were allowed to drive far away from the wreck site not many would have died inside the ship.
How many people died within the ship is simply a matter of conjecture. Many migrants could not speak/read English so how many made it to the deck is debatable. Allowing that many exits were locked against 3rd class passengers who then had to find another way out and you probably have a fair number of people trapped below decks. Only a small proportion of bodies were recovered, some it is known did drift many miles, but it is still possible that there may be/have been bodies within the ship.
I never said that there was deaths inside the ship. One thinks back to the postal clerks that died while trying to keep the mail from getting wet. But it comes back to the fact that we do not know how many people were on deck or below deck and died I mean after all not everyone was wearing life vests then theres the problem with having easy access to the upper decks due to no gates preventing 3rd class from getting to the deck.
THe reasion why I say this is because I have done years of research and there are only two known locations to me for gates and both of them would have only prevented third class from going down stairs that lead to crew spaces. Third class could easily get to the aft well deck and climed to the "poop deck" which is the aft most surface deck on Titanic.
I should say only two locations below decks that boswick gates are located. There was garden gates located one on the bow on the stairs from the 3rd class open promenade deck (forward well deck) to B deck, then there was two aft from the 3rd class open promenade to the aft second class promenade deck which is the aft B deck. These garden gates were waist heigth and could easily be climbed.
Interesting. I do like the idea, and I know they use similar methods to salvage much smaller boats and ships. However, they would need to test the strength of the haul, just to make sure it doesn't break into smaller pieces.
You wouldn't believe how many times I've had to respond to this exact sentiment. I Only Used Titanic As An Example Because It's So Well Known! Of course we wouldn't really do it even if we could, but the possibility really does exist.
It used to be that without medicines to put someone to sleep, you would kill (destroy) the person you were operating on. But now we can put a person completely to sleep, and perform operations without someone feeling one sensation, and without subsequently dying from the pain. Don't you think it's possible the future will hold technology that could bring the Titanic to the surface if that technology existed now?
it would just collapse in on its self because shes been under water at the bottom of the north to long it would be better to build a replica and it would be cheaper
Think outside the box. If there were a way (and there is) to strengthen the hull of the ship to withstand it, Titanic could in fact be raised. But that technology doesn't exist yet here in Your time period. It will in mine, though, some 200 years from now.
Just watch the movie "Raise the Titanic". Bad as it was, it did present a credible method of raising the ship. They used inflatable gas bags inside those cages mounted to the hull. But this is over 2 miles down with a ship a hundred years old that already has been stressed and broken, then dropped to the ocean floor. It could never happen in reality. Just trying to free her from the bottom mud would probably break her remains apart.
Thx for your comment. Robots could do the work of digging out the bottom of the ship before inflating the gas bags that you mentioned. But as I've said to others, Titanic is just what I've used for an example b/c it's well known. I don't expect anyone to actually raise it...
titanic's hull will withstand the lift if they decide to raise the ship, but unfortunatley many rooms will collapse within the ship due to decaying structure and supports holding deck after deck, there is a risk of losing the remaining rooms aboard the wreck and losing remaining secrets that are still in the ship ever since the ship sank in 1912, so i don't think it's worth the risk of losing the ship and losing some important clues into the disaster.
the pressure down there is 2 tons per square inch or somethin like that, surely trying to inflate some air pockets down there would be impossible, the material should burst
Not if the material is thick enough, and the pockets small enough. Besides, once again, I'm using Titanic merely as an example b/c it's so well known.
You may be just using the RMS Titanic as an example, but you've got everyone here thinking TITANIC!!! I'm not going to harp on ya' or nothing-luv the vid!!!, but your talking about using air bags made of some damn strong stuff to efectivly raise a ship wreck, and all we see is that grand lady of the deep, rusting beautifully in the darkness...
Please remember, I'm theshipman!!! I LOVE this stuff!!!! And I'd luv ta' raise ANY ship. But take doctorftardis's advise: leave theTitanic be
but do you think any materials really gonna displace dat pressure, using titanic as an example is flawed, ships have been raised but none as far as in know from anywhere near that depth, how thick is that material gonna have to be??
Good question. We have to take into account that the pressure on any object would be equal all over; So to a point, the pressure itself would actually reinforce the material all over. And the air inside would resist compression to a point that the material is able to withstand. The real problem would be prevalent during inflation of the material
-cont'd... One way this has been dealt with in the future, is an open, weighted, reinforced structure, that is like an upside down boat. Move this into position inside a sunken vessel, and then pump air up into it to drive the water down and out. It was made of strong enough material (a polymer, I believe) that could withstand the pressure at that depth. Enough of these, and it would work.
Okay why are you on my sister's side i mean she always logs me out without telling me and i should get her back because she purposely doens't listen to me and i'm the oldest.
But you have to think about the condition of the ship, now it would crumble and the pressure would make impossible, Thats hundreds of pounds of pressure. your video and idea shows that this wasn't thought that much no offense.
First, as I've said before in response to many comments, I've used Titanic only as an example since it is so well known. But to answer your question, there are compounds that can solidify underwater that could possibly be applied to the remaining hull to strengthen it, even build it up. Then this idea might work. But what about all the other ships? Titanic isn't the only one that has sunk. @temarifangirl01
based on the plexiglass bubble, it seems as if it would be impossible anyway, amolst as bad as building a city in space, but you could slowly try and build the bubble and move it upwards very slowly. but the shop itsef is in such bad condition. its almost 100 years old (since it it was first bulit, not when it sank)
The only way I could truly see it possible to raise the ship would be to use a compound that could solidify underwater, fusing and strengthening what's left of the hull. Then a lift of any sort might be possible. The Romans were able to develop concrete that could solidify after being poured underwater. Shouldn't we be able to do at least the same, if not more than this?
Howwould the Plexiglass bubble be impossible? You have water onboth sides of the bubble and that is an equal force unlike having a bubble with air on the underside and water on the other side. The bubble would reduce the weight of the ocean cause the ocean is sitting atop the bubble holding it down to the bottom of the ocean. But since a liquid cant be compressed the water inside the bubble would keep the shape.
Not possible, This is stupid to be honest. Create air pockets in a hull that has aged under water for almost 100 years and at a depth that is double that the stern was at when she started to crush from airpockets in the hull. Also if your going to lift a hull from the ocean floor you never want to lift one end more than the other it stresses the object you want equal lift all along the whole length of the hull.
Thats what worried the salvagers over the big piece, too much lift in the center caused the piece to warp. Plus you cant use a hollow life raft, the pressure would crush them. Thats why the lift bags they used for the big peice was filled with diesel fuel, the bag wasnt hollow so the pressure couldnt crush it, and diesel fuel is lighter than water so it would be bouyant.
Another thing is that Titanic is burried in more than 90 feet of mud so that mud would create a quick sand effect and it would require more bouyancy than airpockets or "life rafts" could ever create to float the ship up.
You know... everyone forgets that I've said the titanic is just a well-known name that I've used as an example, and that this idea applies to Any ship that has sunk (whose hull may be intact enough for this to work). @Milner62
I understand that. My point is that Titanic was a bad choice considering all the impossibles for that wreck. The Britannic that is possible shallow enough to build a wall and pump the water out. Only thing is that the wreck is protected by the greece government atleast it was last time I heard since it was in their waters. It is possible to raise titanic but not by the methods that was stated in the video.
I would think building a 5" thick plexiglass bubble around the whole wreck and then pumping the water out and refilling the bubble with a solution to treat the wreck. then you could have the bubble reduce the weight of water and dock with the assembly and scuba dive through the wreck since the plexiglass bubble would be preventing the weight of the ocean above from being felt. But thats not gonna happen would cost too much.
No i didnt say air pocket, i said i would build a plexiglass bubble to reduce the weight of the ocean and to pump out the sea water and pump in a solution that would slow down and eventually stop the rusting. There is no air as the sea water comes out you pump in the solution its a simple exchange.
Oops, my bad. It would take a Lot of that solution you speak of. And how would you pump the solution that far down under the ocean? There are compounds that might be used (as I mentioned in a previous comment) that can solidify underwater, strengthening the materials in the hull of the ship. This might accomplish the same goal. @Milner62
well you wouldnt need that much solution. Add alittle bit over time you would be able to slowly increase the strength of the solution. Not sure about the pumping of the fluid. I think a large 5" diameter pipe that is 2" thick which would leave 1" for the solution to be pumped through would be strong enough but I think it could be possible for that considering that we have had a submersiable go down 4 miles below the surface in the pacific before.
Third, it's a graveyard to the thousands of people who died that day and to those who gave up their lives so that others could live. Therefore, I find the entire concept of raising it unacceptable. They're already starting to dabble a little to much in recovering artifacts...
If you've read any of the other comments, you would know that this is merely an example... But I do think it would be nice if we had the titanic accessible to those who wished to visit it and pay respects to those who were lost. We should raise the titanic and make it a memorial, now that would be honorable.
I can see where you are comming from, but I still say that, to raise it would be grave robery. If you see the videos of when they found it back in '85, there are still boots laying down there where bodies were, which is just an errie reminder that the place is a grave to thouse people. To raise it would be disrupting that grave, whihc I myself find to be very disrespectfull. Besides that, it would coast a forutune to raise it, if it would even be possibe at all.
Um, they go down there on expeditions a LOT actually... How do you think they have brought artifacts up? And just cause EVERYONE can't get down there, doesn't mean it isn't a grave. A grave is defined as a place someone is buried, well over 1200 people are buried under the sea there.
Technically a grave is anyone that is laid to rest after a burrial ritual (church for example), those people actually werent burried. Most of them floated miles away from the wreck of the Titanic before the life vest couldnt support them anymore. There was an account of three people pulled from an abandoned life boat that was 30 miles away after drifting for a week i think it was.
Yes, but can you really say the place is not a grave to the thousands that died there? There were several bodies that went down with the ship and to disrupt that is to disrupt their peace in a way.
The issue is whether or not people could actually visit this grave. Besides, you're getting off the topic that titanic exemplifies, which is simply that ships can in fact be raised from the bottom of the ocean.
Yes, ships can be raised and DKC if you have a problem with graves maybe you should complain to the us and russian governments after they raised that russian sub that sunk even though people died during the sinking.
First off, I doubt it could even BE raised, considering it's been down there for 95 years and therefore will be emencly brittle.
Second, the Bow section of Titanic lies 2 and 1/2 miles deep. That far down, you have about 1000 tons of pressure per square inch. If you tried to inflate a raft, it would collapse in a heartbeat. And even at that, consider the weight of it... I'm not so sure rafts could even do it.
I feel sorry for you that you wasted all this time on a response to a false premise. Titanic is just the name of a well known ship that I was using as an example, to illustrate the concept. But thanks for telling me and others what is already known.
Just pointing out that I highly doubt that theory would ever work. You are wanting to know peoples opinions on if it will work of not, otherwise you would'nt allow comments. I don't think that floatation devices will work, if the ship is sunk too far down and depending on it's weight.
And, if you are really serious about learning how to raise ships, please learn the proper terms (ex: "the front part" is known as the "Bow" of the ship).
Would you please also familiarize yourself with the idea of reaching your audience. There may be viewers who don't know the term "bow" in reference to a ship. Let's not try to exclude people.
Yes, of corse, at which point you say "The Bow (front end) of the ship." That way, the people who don't know the terms are not going to be left confused and also will learn what it is called in the prosses.
The ship can't raise its so old that it would colapse in and then it would be garbage. See my idea is to build a big wall around the wreck and then drain it and then do what you can do to fix it so it can raise.
I have actually heard of compounds that can solidify underwater, so you might try strengthening the hull utilizing these compounds. Then you can attempt a lift. And my mentioning the titanic was just an example, using a name for a ship that is well known.
U have a good idea but when the ship hit the bodom the bow broke by the super struckture and the ship is geting really weak and u got to think about the pepole who died that's their grave but good idea
redneckpoop 9 months ago
You forgot one little detail...THE BOW IS OVER 160 FEET UNDER SAND!
thebradybunchlover 9 months ago
argh, the titanic IS TOO WEAK! ITS RUSTY man. each time you try, it will snap.!!!
MrDrunkman10 1 year ago
He stupid ass! If you're from the future...then you have the ability to go back farther than 2007 to save the fuckin' ship from sinking! Take your meds future boy.
brianvimx 1 year ago
ship, it also might destroy it because right now its almost perfectly preserved in the ocean.. there are still dolls and painting where the only thing wrong is coral growing on it. also its great for ocean life.. people around the world are sinking old ships to create homes and bases for new corral reefs ..the tittanic is already one so by taking it up they would greatly impact the ecosystem surrounding it
SexIsNotForKids 1 year ago
They could pull it out of the water.. they have all the equipment to. It's not a question of if they can it's whether its right or not. Most people think that taking it up would be disrespectful to the people resting peacfully after their death on the
SexIsNotForKids 1 year ago
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SexIsNotForKids 1 year ago
A similar plan to yours was proposed when it sank which involved ping pong balls (believe it or not!). The problem is however, Titanic is 12,500 feet below the surface of the water. Due to the immense pressure, the raft will just burst. Using hard containers to withstand the pressure can be extremely expensive.
Secondly, the ship is being eaten away by a bacteria (200 lbs a day!) it has many holes and structure is so weak that even if we lift it, it will break it many more pieces and fall again
EngineProblems 1 year ago
ok i beleive it should be raised not to be disrespectful but just because it is breaking apart way too much if we dont raise it soon its going to be basically copletely gone
BUT COME ON IF THIS WOULD WORK THEY WOULD OF ALREADY DONE IT
Greendude11green 1 year ago
You don't actually expect this to work, do you?
Dirtboy101 1 year ago
raise it? for what precise purpose?
stardaddyo9 1 year ago
yeh but could the rafts explode inside im with this tho sounds cool
allthings321 1 year ago
It is sad that the Titanic broke up. Some people told that the Titanic was too strong, and they said a explosion occured in boiler rooms 6 and 7.
We should raise the Titanic and Britannic fast. The Titanic is nearly collapsing the last ten years.
Peekarica 2 years ago 2
cheaper raising the pier at Weston Supermare!
90xdoctor900 2 years ago
ha lol im from there
allthings321 1 year ago
there r several things wrong with this idea! 1st thing is sumting u learn in scuba: air compresses onderwater, so those life rafts will not fill completely or even probly enven fill halfway. 2nd the other half 2 that is if by some mircle it works, wen it rises the opposite will happen, the air will expand which will make the ship rise way 2 fast, which will rip it apart! the other thing is its not only a gravesite its a "house" 4 fish and by law u cant raise it
CODEyREDding 2 years ago
Its impossible.
CarlosBcn1989 2 years ago
how bout they put a concrete tube around the ship.then pump the water out..
jraedriggars 2 years ago
sorry correct myself 2 and half miles down.
90xdoctor900 2 years ago
if you had be down there 3 and a half miles you would see for yourself the condition of the wreck, it's physically impossible to pull a rusty thin crust out of 60 feet of mud down that depth, there is more chance of you raising the atlantic than raising the titanic!
or you could just get scottie to lock onto it's coordinates.
90xdoctor900 2 years ago
lol
CODEyREDding 2 years ago
lol are you making this video as a joke to make people laugh or are you actually serious? if you are serious you must be pretty stupid.
1kingconan 2 years ago
wtf it would rip it self to bits in the first 5 seconds its got over 50+ years of corsion of saltwater and other aquatic damage and please if you dont know what the heck your talking about DONT It only shows how stupid you are pluss THATS A FKING GRAVE FOR ONLY A COPPLE THOUSAND PEOPLE
thatonigod 2 years ago 2
Do you know anything about the ship?
iBook3503332 2 years ago 2
this was the most boring vedio i have scene, i was waiting for the rick-riddel to pop up but i got this vedio... the titanic cant be raised it is just pure logic. the steel is failing for years, all the bolts are mostly rusted away. it would fall apart when it is coming up. did anybody see when they raised the moniter? they had to bring it up in so many harnesses cause it was falling apart and it was a 50 ft civil war sub.
Stu44121 2 years ago
You can't raise it. It's freezed on the bottom, you have to make the bottom so hot so the Titanic will get lost of it. You can't fix the ship, it's very hard damaged.
Abricialio 2 years ago
its not frozen down there u idiot! its just stuck in about 60 feet of mud
CODEyREDding 2 years ago
@CODEyREDding you mean 12,500 feet of mud.
EngineProblems 1 year ago
This whole theory would work in a smaller scale, but not on Titanic. First, she is buried into the silt by about what, 50 feet. Secondly, the metal has been failing all these years and there is no way it could take the strain of this. Thirdly, there is no way to get that much air down there to it. The pressures involved would keep you from pumping air down to her or sending tanks down there. Lets just face it, Titanic wil dissapear here in the near future forever.
dhart1977 2 years ago
Honestly my friend. The world is a technical place. You really didn't expect the world to hold you up on their shoulders and say "Why didn't we think of this" now did you? I'm not even sure why you sent me back such a responce. I didn't attempt to tear you down. You proposal did that for me.
sandman19681012 2 years ago
First, you insult my intelligence.. then you deny doing it... What are you thinking?? And yes I do expect some people to help me... especially since I'm from the future! I have knowledge that can help you people now... All of you should take advantage of it while you can. You should be studying my videos and comments to learn from me... and ask me questions... Why is that so hard for you arrogant humans to understand?
technocreep 2 years ago
Yes my friend. The logic is sound but real life is always a bit harder. Lifting bags have been used to bring many objects up to the surface but it is a delicate process because each bag must be matched in pressure to the others. If a single bag were to be used it would have to be positioned midship and the stresses would be too great in most cases. A vessel on the bottom can be a very fragile object. Once again. Nice theory.
sandman19681012 2 years ago
I assumed that since I stated in my video that numerous floatation devices would have to be used throughout the ship that you would have understood that it still applied to my last comment. I keep expecting people to make intellectual leaps that they just seem incapable of making... My mistake. I apologize for expecting too much from you all in this time period...
technocreep 2 years ago
The Titanic holds special meaning to me. I will be leading an expedition to the site where she sank next year. Your idea is not without merit but there are several problems. The hull would never withstand the brutal force of being raised and to inflate anything that deep would require incredible air pressure due to the fact that the water pressure down there is 6000 pounds per square inch. I like your thinking though. It just would not work under actual real world conditions.
sandman19681012 2 years ago
Thanks. As I've mentioned before, Titanic is just a well known ship I used as an example.. not expecting anyone to actually do it. It would, however, have application for other vessels that could withstand this.
technocreep 2 years ago
Secondly, in the future they actually use purified water, which is then electrolysized at the level of the sunken vessel, and finally oxygen is allowed to flow up into a container that resembles the shape of a parachute in order to create lift of the vessel to the surface. Unfortunately I didnt have enough time to include info like this on the video... had to give only the basic idea within 10 minutes time.
technocreep 2 years ago
The Titanic is in pieces on the ocean floor, not mention the years of corrosion it has under gone. In fact the stern of the ship was practically destroyed on the ways down, guess why, pockets of trapped air!
crossey83 2 years ago
this is impossible it would take millions of life rafts and the hole would need to be repaired aswell as the snaped bow. what a waste of 8minutes 17seconds you are a retard
darthkevster 2 years ago
Wow..! You missed the whole point of this... could be used on other sunken vessels... just used the Titanic as an example.. etc... Very narrow-minded. You're definitely not a team-player...
technocreep 2 years ago
This guy is a retard!
sandman19681012 2 years ago 2
Im not sure if im correct, And i no your only using the Titanic as an example.
But i don't think the Titanic is able to be raised due to it being a memorial/grave site. Because of all the people that died there and it would be like disrespectful could you say?
TomLovesSascha 3 years ago
see my responsed to others above..
technocreep 2 years ago
Iv been studying the titanic a long time now but this this! is the best video Iv ever
seen!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
autumncreighton 3 years ago 3
it would tear it apart its more like paperafter being underwater after 10 minutes its in very bad condition. there are man holes
doctero110 3 years ago
See my response to 1999UTD, above.
technocreep 3 years ago
You could raise the Titanic many different ways but why would you want to? Its a habitat for marine life now, It is also the resting ground of all those poor people. Besides who would want to take responsibility of raising the Titanic and keeping it. No one!
GeneticSupremacy 3 years ago
...see my response to titanicliberty333
technocreep 3 years ago
you CANT raise the titanic many different ways.
not for the moral issue, but the literal issue. its impossible
1999UTD 3 years ago
See my response to 1999UTD, above.
technocreep 3 years ago
wrong i would!
eleventhdr 3 years ago
Dude the titanic would just fall to pieces if you tried to raise it.
ww2freak8 3 years ago
your d one who make the video??
Red0976 3 years ago
I think it would be like pulling a biscuit out of hot coffee. The deck would not be able to hold the weight of the outer hull. It's two hours to the surface.
storiesinthepark 3 years ago
I agree. That's why I've suggested using some polymers that could harden underwater, to strengthen the hull first before attempting retrieval.
technocreep 3 years ago
Navy divers and salvage operators have known this for years. Of course it works, quite well on small applications. The pressure at that depth it is unlikely that you could inflate a simple airbag. The containment device would need to be so heavy that it would be lucky to even lift its own weight. If you could even displace the amount of water required the ships hull would likely fall apart during ascent. Not to mention exposing the hull to the atmosphere would cause rapid deterioration.
ulgyamerican 3 years ago
Well yeah it is worth a try but they are to cheap to try anyway so we should just froget about it.
titanicliberty333 3 years ago
Oh.. absolutely not. How can we live with ourselves if we can retrieve something from the moon (soil samples), but can't even retrieve something from the bottom of our own ocean?... We need to do this. We need to prove that we are capable of doing this. For shame... for shame... if we don't. @titaniclibery333
technocreep 3 years ago
maybe after all the survivors are gone. Out of respect to them.
deepseadirt 3 years ago
the would of raised it aready but there afraid to ad the thick it will break trough the floor and damage it even more
titanicliberty333 3 years ago
Try anyway... couldn't make it any worse. @titanicliberty333
technocreep 3 years ago
your description is quite eduacational technocreep. Thanks for the video. The guy who proposed using ping pong balls was Douglass ? something. Not as crazy as he was sounding, the principle is correct his method was wrong. Ping pong balls would not stand the great depth where Titanic lies. Remember styrofoam cups thrown overboard during expeditions were crushed to the size of a thumbnail. I would try raising Lusitania or Britannic first(both in shallower water) as a warmup to Titanic.
deepseadirt 3 years ago
The question would be why? Why raise it? It's not like it's hiding some secret to further our current technology or holding a much needed secret. It would be interesting to say the least, but how would they keep it floating being torn in two? What would they put the bow on or how would they get it to where ever they wanted to take it? I don't know if it could handle even being moved. I'm not saying it's impossible, but not easy.
DarkTruth33 3 years ago
To prove it can be done... And besides, wouldn't it be nice if we could put people to rest even though the bodies have sunk that far down in the ocean? @DarkTruth33
technocreep 3 years ago
there are no bodies on the ship or around it. They've decayed or have been eaten decades ago. Symbolically the ship is a grave for those people. It's a moral question of grave robbing which for all intensive purposes has already been done by RMS Titanic INcorporated. Yes it could be done if only that we learn from the ship itself the lessons to never let a disaster like that happen again. The ship itself still may have something to teach if only by raising. Who knows?
deepseadirt 3 years ago
con't: the main obstacle to raising the ship has always been that victims bodies one lay among it's ruins. Another question is that the Titanic is certainly not going to last forever down there and should an attempt to raise it while there's still a ship to raise should be done? or should survivor's wishes that their lost loved ones be left alone and the ship is there only grave? it is a tough question concerning this ship's place in world history.
deepseadirt 3 years ago
The ship could be raised, in fact it could've been raised a long time ago. The technology exists and/or could be created. One would be a giant underwater floating dock that could rise, like a hot air balloon rises into the atmosphere, bringing the bow to the surface. It could also descend for safety purposes(ie storms). This platform would cost a ton of money but it's not impossible. The main issue has always been the fact that the ship is an underwater cemetary. It's a moral ?
deepseadirt 3 years ago
You cannot raise the Titanic for the simple reason it has deteriorated far too much to ever hope to bring what is left of it up in one piece.
Were you to try to raise it, you would effectively destroy it in the process.
sphinxrising58 3 years ago
It's been done already. You just don't know that they're keeping it a secret. The real Titanic is hidden in a science building somewhere. Those videos you see of Titanic are just an underwater stage, a set, fake. LMAO
technocreep 3 years ago
Ah, I see. You have been taking some happy pills, huh ? ;)
sphinxrising58 3 years ago
If, by happy pills, you mean the kind that make you really really sarcastic, then yes...
technocreep 3 years ago
I was trying to be humorously sacastic, but I guess it did not come across well in text :P
sphinxrising58 3 years ago
That's okay, I forgot to put "LOL" at the end of my last message... @sphinxrising58
technocreep 3 years ago
This I gotta see.
PandaMishima 3 years ago 2
Probablu true, but this is still a fun idea. What you'd also need, if you still want to do this, is some kind of net or sieve underneath the ship to catch the crumbly bits. In fact, if you raised the ship slowly, it might not just break apart; you'd still need to hold everything together.
The point is that this could work for any ship in decent condition.
PandaMishima 3 years ago
Well, the trouble with that ida is that the very metal of the ship itself is being eaten by some type of microbe, & has weakedned the hull to the extent that the only way to preserve it is to leave it alone.
To be certain, this is not always the case, as I have read accounts where they have brought up WW-II aircraft intact after 50 some years.
sphinxrising58 3 years ago
have you been reading raise the the titanic?
darthkevster 2 years ago
No, why would I ?
Incase you failed to catch it, the ship is falling apart, being eaten by microbes, hence is way too fragile to even think about beinging up intact.
Raising The Titantic mae for a great fantasy movie, but that is where it stops, fantasy.
sphinxrising58 2 years ago
well your not the first to think of it, many years ago a guy on tv said fill it up with ping-pong balls, but as they said at the time you cant gat air down that far. if you used small tanks to get it down it would take a thousand trips, and as i said if you could get air down there and fill the titanic or any other ship it would just sit there, the mud would not let it go
gaylordbazza 3 years ago
We can't get air down that far?!?! What do you think the guys in the submersibles are breathing when they are filming the Titanic??? If what you said were true, we wouldn't have any film on Titanic. And as for the mud, it could be dug out. I guess it doesn't matter, though, because it wouldn't be someone like you who would accomplish it, so I might as well stop waisting my time with you... @gaylordbazza
technocreep 3 years ago
Ouch, that was harsh...
technocreep 3 years ago
who gave this guy a license to think?
even if you could get air down that far the suction on that ship would pall it apart.
have you ever got your boot stuck in the mud?
gaylordbazza 3 years ago
In response to "who gave this guy a license to think?": The same person who gave you a license to make stupid comments... LMAO @gaylordbazza
technocreep 3 years ago
titanic 1912 if rose died never mind but if she didnt pull titanic up and let her walk on it her brain might rember were her room is where every thing is
AppleturnoverZZZ 3 years ago
okay raising 3/4 of a ship, with countless wholes in it, not to mention the huge one at the back where the stern used to be. the forcastle deck conpletely buckled and a structure thats weaker than a baby. yeahh.......
1999UTD 3 years ago
In the description for this video, I explained that Titanic is only being used for example b/c it is so well known... but thanks for the comment.
technocreep 3 years ago
what about raising the britannic?
chikagurl 3 years ago
Good question. I made this same point in previous comments, that this concept can be used in the case of other sunken ships... @chikagurl
technocreep 3 years ago
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jraedriggars 3 years ago
In the description for this video, I explained that Titanic is only being used for example b/c it is so well known... but thanks for the comment.
technocreep 3 years ago
still not possable, top deckwould just rip right off andany lower deckswould then collapse from the fore of that.
eXorceast 3 years ago
In the description for this video, I explained that Titanic is only being used for example b/c it is so well known... but thanks for the comment.
technocreep 3 years ago
let she rest !!
vietnamdude 3 years ago
Don't worry. Noone will ever actually try to raise the titanic. She's just used as an example.
technocreep 3 years ago
that concept has already been done, it could be done on a large scale it just takes money and lots of it. on such a large scale you would need R&D to deveolpe special air pockets straps and a way of stabalisation for the ship when surfacing it
unheard128 3 years ago
Really? Where? When? What was the name of the ship?...
technocreep 3 years ago
no offence but it wouldnt be very sensible because it would be like removing somebodys grave. you wouldnt like it if somebody dug up your grave and put it in a museum. I am not starting any arguments i am just giving my point of view.
XxBAYBEExCAITxX 3 years ago
Agreed, no argument, but would you now go back and read how many times I've already responded to this same sentiment... and what my response actually was...
technocreep 3 years ago
But the thing is the majority of the people that died died on the surface of the ocean and their bodies were allowed to drive far away from the wreck site not many would have died inside the ship.
Milner62 3 years ago
How many people died within the ship is simply a matter of conjecture. Many migrants could not speak/read English so how many made it to the deck is debatable. Allowing that many exits were locked against 3rd class passengers who then had to find another way out and you probably have a fair number of people trapped below decks. Only a small proportion of bodies were recovered, some it is known did drift many miles, but it is still possible that there may be/have been bodies within the ship.
XxBAYBEExCAITxX 3 years ago
I never said that there was deaths inside the ship. One thinks back to the postal clerks that died while trying to keep the mail from getting wet. But it comes back to the fact that we do not know how many people were on deck or below deck and died I mean after all not everyone was wearing life vests then theres the problem with having easy access to the upper decks due to no gates preventing 3rd class from getting to the deck.
Milner62 3 years ago
THe reasion why I say this is because I have done years of research and there are only two known locations to me for gates and both of them would have only prevented third class from going down stairs that lead to crew spaces. Third class could easily get to the aft well deck and climed to the "poop deck" which is the aft most surface deck on Titanic.
Milner62 3 years ago
I should say only two locations below decks that boswick gates are located. There was garden gates located one on the bow on the stairs from the 3rd class open promenade deck (forward well deck) to B deck, then there was two aft from the 3rd class open promenade to the aft second class promenade deck which is the aft B deck. These garden gates were waist heigth and could easily be climbed.
Milner62 3 years ago
Interesting. I do like the idea, and I know they use similar methods to salvage much smaller boats and ships. However, they would need to test the strength of the haul, just to make sure it doesn't break into smaller pieces.
8TRandom8 3 years ago
It is a very cool idea, and plausible, but, this shouldnt happen. I mean, after all, the Titanic is a grave site. Leave the souls at peace.
SoCalCoaster 3 years ago
You wouldn't believe how many times I've had to respond to this exact sentiment. I Only Used Titanic As An Example Because It's So Well Known! Of course we wouldn't really do it even if we could, but the possibility really does exist.
technocreep 3 years ago
it would disroy her as well if you to raise a ship like titanic raise britannic you might have a beter chance
tradingplaces400 4 years ago
It used to be that without medicines to put someone to sleep, you would kill (destroy) the person you were operating on. But now we can put a person completely to sleep, and perform operations without someone feeling one sensation, and without subsequently dying from the pain. Don't you think it's possible the future will hold technology that could bring the Titanic to the surface if that technology existed now?
technocreep 4 years ago
it would just collapse in on its self because shes been under water at the bottom of the north to long it would be better to build a replica and it would be cheaper
tradingplaces400 4 years ago
Think outside the box. If there were a way (and there is) to strengthen the hull of the ship to withstand it, Titanic could in fact be raised. But that technology doesn't exist yet here in Your time period. It will in mine, though, some 200 years from now.
technocreep 4 years ago
it would bge cheper it would cost millions
bojack99 4 years ago
no you should not because its a grave it wood be like going into a grave yard and diging someone up you dont do it
tradingplaces400 4 years ago
As I've said to others, Titanic is just what I've used for an example b/c it's well known. I don't expect anyone to actually raise it...
technocreep 4 years ago
Just watch the movie "Raise the Titanic". Bad as it was, it did present a credible method of raising the ship. They used inflatable gas bags inside those cages mounted to the hull. But this is over 2 miles down with a ship a hundred years old that already has been stressed and broken, then dropped to the ocean floor. It could never happen in reality. Just trying to free her from the bottom mud would probably break her remains apart.
dallaskeffer 4 years ago
Thx for your comment. Robots could do the work of digging out the bottom of the ship before inflating the gas bags that you mentioned. But as I've said to others, Titanic is just what I've used for an example b/c it's well known. I don't expect anyone to actually raise it...
technocreep 4 years ago
titanic's hull will withstand the lift if they decide to raise the ship, but unfortunatley many rooms will collapse within the ship due to decaying structure and supports holding deck after deck, there is a risk of losing the remaining rooms aboard the wreck and losing remaining secrets that are still in the ship ever since the ship sank in 1912, so i don't think it's worth the risk of losing the ship and losing some important clues into the disaster.
doctoroftardis1963 4 years ago
Secrets like what, possibly?
technocreep 4 years ago
the pressure down there is 2 tons per square inch or somethin like that, surely trying to inflate some air pockets down there would be impossible, the material should burst
mullers88 4 years ago
Not if the material is thick enough, and the pockets small enough. Besides, once again, I'm using Titanic merely as an example b/c it's so well known.
technocreep 4 years ago
Dude!!!
You may be just using the RMS Titanic as an example, but you've got everyone here thinking TITANIC!!! I'm not going to harp on ya' or nothing-luv the vid!!!, but your talking about using air bags made of some damn strong stuff to efectivly raise a ship wreck, and all we see is that grand lady of the deep, rusting beautifully in the darkness...
Please remember, I'm theshipman!!! I LOVE this stuff!!!! And I'd luv ta' raise ANY ship. But take doctorftardis's advise: leave theTitanic be
theshipman 4 years ago
but do you think any materials really gonna displace dat pressure, using titanic as an example is flawed, ships have been raised but none as far as in know from anywhere near that depth, how thick is that material gonna have to be??
mullers88 4 years ago
Good question. We have to take into account that the pressure on any object would be equal all over; So to a point, the pressure itself would actually reinforce the material all over. And the air inside would resist compression to a point that the material is able to withstand. The real problem would be prevalent during inflation of the material
technocreep 4 years ago
-cont'd... One way this has been dealt with in the future, is an open, weighted, reinforced structure, that is like an upside down boat. Move this into position inside a sunken vessel, and then pump air up into it to drive the water down and out. It was made of strong enough material (a polymer, I believe) that could withstand the pressure at that depth. Enough of these, and it would work.
technocreep 4 years ago
fair enuf u seem to no ur stuff!
mullers88 4 years ago
Yep eye shewr dew!
technocreep 4 years ago
ther are 6 gashes
heartlesshadows 4 years ago
On Titanic, you mean?
technocreep 4 years ago
LOL! I'm only using Titanic as an example of the concept because it's so well known... @9jea1
technocreep 4 years ago
this is a fucking joke... just looking that drawings...... besides, titanic structure it's too weak for that shit
9jea1 4 years ago
This guy's pretty good, and he drews better than Bishop Sheen.
PandaMishima 4 years ago
I would suggest they raise the seabed which the ship is on! =P
KeenyFox 4 years ago
eso es imposible desgraciadamente el titanic esta condenado ha estar en el fondo del mar¬¬
ferropink 4 years ago
Y los otros? Titanic no es el unico barco en el fondo del mar.
technocreep 4 years ago
Okay why are you on my sister's side i mean she always logs me out without telling me and i should get her back because she purposely doens't listen to me and i'm the oldest.
sxracer44 4 years ago
Sorry. My bad. I don't want to get between a sibling rivalry, seriously. lol
technocreep 4 years ago
But you have to think about the condition of the ship, now it would crumble and the pressure would make impossible, Thats hundreds of pounds of pressure. your video and idea shows that this wasn't thought that much no offense.
temarifangirl01 4 years ago
First, as I've said before in response to many comments, I've used Titanic only as an example since it is so well known. But to answer your question, there are compounds that can solidify underwater that could possibly be applied to the remaining hull to strengthen it, even build it up. Then this idea might work. But what about all the other ships? Titanic isn't the only one that has sunk. @temarifangirl01
technocreep 4 years ago
True, but she's about the most famous one after Noah's ark, and that one's on top of a mountain.
PandaMishima 4 years ago
yeah hi this is temarifangirl and that comment above was by my bother he doesn't log me off
sxracer44 4 years ago
LOL. Sucks to be you... Just kidding. I hope you get him back good for using your name, then. @temarifangirl01
technocreep 4 years ago
based on the plexiglass bubble, it seems as if it would be impossible anyway, amolst as bad as building a city in space, but you could slowly try and build the bubble and move it upwards very slowly. but the shop itsef is in such bad condition. its almost 100 years old (since it it was first bulit, not when it sank)
koreanweed 4 years ago
The only way I could truly see it possible to raise the ship would be to use a compound that could solidify underwater, fusing and strengthening what's left of the hull. Then a lift of any sort might be possible. The Romans were able to develop concrete that could solidify after being poured underwater. Shouldn't we be able to do at least the same, if not more than this?
technocreep 4 years ago
What do you think about a way to get the ship off the bottom of the ocean? @koreanweed
technocreep 4 years ago
Howwould the Plexiglass bubble be impossible? You have water onboth sides of the bubble and that is an equal force unlike having a bubble with air on the underside and water on the other side. The bubble would reduce the weight of the ocean cause the ocean is sitting atop the bubble holding it down to the bottom of the ocean. But since a liquid cant be compressed the water inside the bubble would keep the shape.
Milner62 4 years ago
Not possible, This is stupid to be honest. Create air pockets in a hull that has aged under water for almost 100 years and at a depth that is double that the stern was at when she started to crush from airpockets in the hull. Also if your going to lift a hull from the ocean floor you never want to lift one end more than the other it stresses the object you want equal lift all along the whole length of the hull.
Milner62 4 years ago
Thats what worried the salvagers over the big piece, too much lift in the center caused the piece to warp. Plus you cant use a hollow life raft, the pressure would crush them. Thats why the lift bags they used for the big peice was filled with diesel fuel, the bag wasnt hollow so the pressure couldnt crush it, and diesel fuel is lighter than water so it would be bouyant.
Milner62 4 years ago
Another thing is that Titanic is burried in more than 90 feet of mud so that mud would create a quick sand effect and it would require more bouyancy than airpockets or "life rafts" could ever create to float the ship up.
Milner62 4 years ago
You know... everyone forgets that I've said the titanic is just a well-known name that I've used as an example, and that this idea applies to Any ship that has sunk (whose hull may be intact enough for this to work). @Milner62
technocreep 4 years ago
I understand that. My point is that Titanic was a bad choice considering all the impossibles for that wreck. The Britannic that is possible shallow enough to build a wall and pump the water out. Only thing is that the wreck is protected by the greece government atleast it was last time I heard since it was in their waters. It is possible to raise titanic but not by the methods that was stated in the video.
Milner62 4 years ago
I would think building a 5" thick plexiglass bubble around the whole wreck and then pumping the water out and refilling the bubble with a solution to treat the wreck. then you could have the bubble reduce the weight of water and dock with the assembly and scuba dive through the wreck since the plexiglass bubble would be preventing the weight of the ocean above from being felt. But thats not gonna happen would cost too much.
Milner62 4 years ago
In other words, you want to create a big air pocket underwater, hmmmmmmmmmmmm, sounds familiar...
technocreep 4 years ago
No i didnt say air pocket, i said i would build a plexiglass bubble to reduce the weight of the ocean and to pump out the sea water and pump in a solution that would slow down and eventually stop the rusting. There is no air as the sea water comes out you pump in the solution its a simple exchange.
Milner62 4 years ago
Oops, my bad. It would take a Lot of that solution you speak of. And how would you pump the solution that far down under the ocean? There are compounds that might be used (as I mentioned in a previous comment) that can solidify underwater, strengthening the materials in the hull of the ship. This might accomplish the same goal. @Milner62
technocreep 4 years ago
well you wouldnt need that much solution. Add alittle bit over time you would be able to slowly increase the strength of the solution. Not sure about the pumping of the fluid. I think a large 5" diameter pipe that is 2" thick which would leave 1" for the solution to be pumped through would be strong enough but I think it could be possible for that considering that we have had a submersiable go down 4 miles below the surface in the pacific before.
Milner62 4 years ago
Third, it's a graveyard to the thousands of people who died that day and to those who gave up their lives so that others could live. Therefore, I find the entire concept of raising it unacceptable. They're already starting to dabble a little to much in recovering artifacts...
DKCGamerGirl 4 years ago
If you've read any of the other comments, you would know that this is merely an example... But I do think it would be nice if we had the titanic accessible to those who wished to visit it and pay respects to those who were lost. We should raise the titanic and make it a memorial, now that would be honorable.
technocreep 4 years ago
I can see where you are comming from, but I still say that, to raise it would be grave robery. If you see the videos of when they found it back in '85, there are still boots laying down there where bodies were, which is just an errie reminder that the place is a grave to thouse people. To raise it would be disrupting that grave, whihc I myself find to be very disrespectfull. Besides that, it would coast a forutune to raise it, if it would even be possibe at all.
DKCGamerGirl 4 years ago
You say it's a grave, eh? And...How many people do you know would be able to go that far down into the ocean to see this "grave"? COME ON!!!
technocreep 4 years ago
Um, they go down there on expeditions a LOT actually... How do you think they have brought artifacts up? And just cause EVERYONE can't get down there, doesn't mean it isn't a grave. A grave is defined as a place someone is buried, well over 1200 people are buried under the sea there.
DKCGamerGirl 4 years ago
Technically a grave is anyone that is laid to rest after a burrial ritual (church for example), those people actually werent burried. Most of them floated miles away from the wreck of the Titanic before the life vest couldnt support them anymore. There was an account of three people pulled from an abandoned life boat that was 30 miles away after drifting for a week i think it was.
Milner62 4 years ago
Yes, but can you really say the place is not a grave to the thousands that died there? There were several bodies that went down with the ship and to disrupt that is to disrupt their peace in a way.
DKCGamerGirl 4 years ago
The issue is whether or not people could actually visit this grave. Besides, you're getting off the topic that titanic exemplifies, which is simply that ships can in fact be raised from the bottom of the ocean.
technocreep 4 years ago
Yes, ships can be raised and DKC if you have a problem with graves maybe you should complain to the us and russian governments after they raised that russian sub that sunk even though people died during the sinking.
Milner62 4 years ago
First off, I doubt it could even BE raised, considering it's been down there for 95 years and therefore will be emencly brittle.
Second, the Bow section of Titanic lies 2 and 1/2 miles deep. That far down, you have about 1000 tons of pressure per square inch. If you tried to inflate a raft, it would collapse in a heartbeat. And even at that, consider the weight of it... I'm not so sure rafts could even do it.
DKCGamerGirl 4 years ago
I feel sorry for you that you wasted all this time on a response to a false premise. Titanic is just the name of a well known ship that I was using as an example, to illustrate the concept. But thanks for telling me and others what is already known.
technocreep 4 years ago
Just pointing out that I highly doubt that theory would ever work. You are wanting to know peoples opinions on if it will work of not, otherwise you would'nt allow comments. I don't think that floatation devices will work, if the ship is sunk too far down and depending on it's weight.
And, if you are really serious about learning how to raise ships, please learn the proper terms (ex: "the front part" is known as the "Bow" of the ship).
DKCGamerGirl 4 years ago
Would you please also familiarize yourself with the idea of reaching your audience. There may be viewers who don't know the term "bow" in reference to a ship. Let's not try to exclude people.
technocreep 4 years ago
Yes, of corse, at which point you say "The Bow (front end) of the ship." That way, the people who don't know the terms are not going to be left confused and also will learn what it is called in the prosses.
DKCGamerGirl 4 years ago
The ship can't raise its so old that it would colapse in and then it would be garbage. See my idea is to build a big wall around the wreck and then drain it and then do what you can do to fix it so it can raise.
Wizard713 4 years ago
I have actually heard of compounds that can solidify underwater, so you might try strengthening the hull utilizing these compounds. Then you can attempt a lift. And my mentioning the titanic was just an example, using a name for a ship that is well known.
technocreep 4 years ago