After the current batch of the old rapture-hustlers like Harold Camping, Hal Lindsey, Tim LaHaye, John Hagee, etc. have all died, will people finally grow up mentally and realize that Jesus won't come back with a sack full of presents for them?
@ CTYFOLK You said "how Paul was wrong in saying..." amongst other incorrect statements. The Apostle Paul wrote under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit. So Paul is not wrong…. JESUS is King of King’s and Lord of Lord’s. All 66 books of the protestant canon are God breathed. The New & Old Testaments are the Word of God…. It’s a grand illusion if you think you can judge God’s Book…for It judges you....
Why do people hold so clutchingly to the rapture theory? I am in constant discussion with a brother who cannot give me scripture that states plainly that we will be raptured, cannot show me in the word that Satan is the current ruler of this earth, cannot show me in scripture where Jesus is "not yet" king of kings, cannot even begin to discuss how Paul is wrong in saying thst "thete is no jrw or greek, man or female, slave or free." He insists tbat Jews have always neen and will always be sepa
It's always amazing to listen to Amillennialist, Partial-preterists attempt to refute Dispensational futurists.
Lk.17:22-37 is not speaking about the temple destruction in 70 A.D., as partial-preterists assert. Nor does the context suggest the one's "taken" are the righteous who are "taken" up in the rapture. Just study the context in light of Mt.24:36-41. Who is "taken"? The Wicked! Who is "left behind"? The righteous, to be "caught up in the air".
41The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity; 42And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth. 43 ""THEN"" shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Who hath ears to hear, let him hear.
The word caught up does not mean Raptured as the word "Rapture" is used in a technical sense. The word Rapture is used to indicate that Christians are caught up to meet Jesus in the air to depart with Him back into heaven for seven years and then return again. There is nothing like that in the Bible....
What the Bible does teach is that when Jesus comes the second time (Hebrews 9:29), in the same slowly, visible, bodily way He left (Acts 1:11), Christian will rise to MEET the Lord in the air which means we go out to GREET Him and then to escort Him where is going. Where is the Lord going? He is coming to earth. It is the last day of human history....
There is not a word in the NT about being raptured AWAY back into heaven for seven years and then returning. This is a new teaching introduced into the church c. 1830. ....
As far as the passage in Luke 17, the context deals with the prophetic future by Jesus of the coming Judgment on Israel which would take place in AD 70. Jesus gave many signs of the impending judgment. All of the signs Christ gave came to pass. In the context of forewarning about the destruction Jerusalem Jesus warned people that when they say the signs, such as the surrounding of the city by Roman armies, people were to flee....
Death would catch up to many. Two would be in the field, One would be taken by the Romans, and another would escape. And so the terrible events unfolded as Jesus predicted in Matthew
After the current batch of the old rapture-hustlers like Harold Camping, Hal Lindsey, Tim LaHaye, John Hagee, etc. have all died, will people finally grow up mentally and realize that Jesus won't come back with a sack full of presents for them?
MrAdvancedAtheist 6 months ago
@ CTYFOLK You said "how Paul was wrong in saying..." amongst other incorrect statements. The Apostle Paul wrote under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit. So Paul is not wrong…. JESUS is King of King’s and Lord of Lord’s. All 66 books of the protestant canon are God breathed. The New & Old Testaments are the Word of God…. It’s a grand illusion if you think you can judge God’s Book…for It judges you....
tdosoldier 11 months ago
Why do people hold so clutchingly to the rapture theory? I am in constant discussion with a brother who cannot give me scripture that states plainly that we will be raptured, cannot show me in the word that Satan is the current ruler of this earth, cannot show me in scripture where Jesus is "not yet" king of kings, cannot even begin to discuss how Paul is wrong in saying thst "thete is no jrw or greek, man or female, slave or free." He insists tbat Jews have always neen and will always be sepa
CTYFOLK 11 months ago
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I think you are right, you make more sense to me now so far, im lurning alot from you
god bless you
maxbird2003 1 year ago
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maxbird2003 1 year ago
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Most excellent teaching! Clear and Biblical points to ponder on. No hokas-pokas theology here.
billnjune 1 year ago
Most excellent teaching! Clear and Biblical points to ponder on. No hokas-pokas theology here.
billnjune 1 year ago
It's always amazing to listen to Amillennialist, Partial-preterists attempt to refute Dispensational futurists.
Lk.17:22-37 is not speaking about the temple destruction in 70 A.D., as partial-preterists assert. Nor does the context suggest the one's "taken" are the righteous who are "taken" up in the rapture. Just study the context in light of Mt.24:36-41. Who is "taken"? The Wicked! Who is "left behind"? The righteous, to be "caught up in the air".
rkg62976 1 year ago
friend you fail to realize the parable spoken by Yashua
matt 13:41-43
41The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity; 42And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth. 43 ""THEN"" shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Who hath ears to hear, let him hear.
also revelations 5:10
WE SHALL REIGN ON THE EARTH
Schtayven 1 year ago
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maxbird2003 1 year ago
@maxbird2003
Here is my response.
Dear Maxbird:
The word caught up does not mean Raptured as the word "Rapture" is used in a technical sense. The word Rapture is used to indicate that Christians are caught up to meet Jesus in the air to depart with Him back into heaven for seven years and then return again. There is nothing like that in the Bible....
tdosoldier 1 year ago
What the Bible does teach is that when Jesus comes the second time (Hebrews 9:29), in the same slowly, visible, bodily way He left (Acts 1:11), Christian will rise to MEET the Lord in the air which means we go out to GREET Him and then to escort Him where is going. Where is the Lord going? He is coming to earth. It is the last day of human history....
tdosoldier 1 year ago
There is not a word in the NT about being raptured AWAY back into heaven for seven years and then returning. This is a new teaching introduced into the church c. 1830. ....
tdosoldier 1 year ago
As far as the passage in Luke 17, the context deals with the prophetic future by Jesus of the coming Judgment on Israel which would take place in AD 70. Jesus gave many signs of the impending judgment. All of the signs Christ gave came to pass. In the context of forewarning about the destruction Jerusalem Jesus warned people that when they say the signs, such as the surrounding of the city by Roman armies, people were to flee....
tdosoldier 1 year ago
Death would catch up to many. Two would be in the field, One would be taken by the Romans, and another would escape. And so the terrible events unfolded as Jesus predicted in Matthew
tdosoldier 1 year ago