To all the turtle haters out there, i say this: for self defense purposes, "position before submission" is a good motto. for mma or sport grappling purposes though, the value of a position is relative to the amount of control that you can personally impose from that position. Telles can impose alot of control from the turtle position even though it was originally labeled by the Gracies as a "bad position". A better motto for sport purposes would be "control then submission".
@jasong13 You're dumb if someone goes to turtle guard it is because of being snuffed from the normal positions, which your typical street fighter will not be able to do. When I have turtle if you are not presenting downward pressure then I am going to fall to my back and play open guard which will make the fight neutral. You give street fighters way too much credit they tend to be irascible people and fight viscerally, people like that fighting Martial Artists and defeating them is piffle.
Andre Galvão e Eduardo Telles são monstros do Jiu Jitsu. Hoje eu fiz um rola com o Telles e posso dizer com total autonomia: Não é para qualquer um finalizar um atleta como ele. E digo mais: se em 2008 a guarda dele já era chatíssima, vcs precisam ver agora!
@SuperSneakySteve Who are you again? What are your accolades in Martial Arts? Exactly you are a troll and your opinion on this subject is worth null. A street fighter could not get a BJJ practicioner to turtle your typical street fighter is retarded. You say turtle is a position that is detrimental but it's not like you understand any position in the BJJ system so no one will take your feeble-minded opinion into consideration.
@holdyerground1 Yes he did, so I was wondering the same thing as to why they fought? Seemed like in Galvaos new book to have good feelings towards Telles.
nossa esses caras fazem jiu jistu em q pais nao sabem quem é o galvao e o teles pow é melhor mudar de esporte porq nao tentam a peteca ou o frescobol porq de jiu jitsu nao entendem nada
Olha só, sou só marrom ainda aprendendo, mas sinceramente não entendi a técnica do lutador de preto, uma escolha infeliz de combate, muito infeliz. O pessoal que criticou não está errado não.
Talvez tenham comentado de forma pejorativa e isso irritou outras pessoas.
Mas o fato, analisando secamente, o jogo escolhido pelo atleta de quimono preto foi um jogo ruim do começo ao fim.
@sambadepacone Ninguém entende esse jogo do Telles. Mas se vc já viu ele em competições, sabe q esse jogo funciona contra atletas de alto nivel. Eu também não entendo, mas sei que com ele funciona...O André Galvão soube anular esse jogo. Mas não é pra qualquer um
Galera, tem muita gente falando merda mesmo...conheci o André Galvão quando veio visitar Brasília, o cara tem uma técnica absurda...fez rola com todos da academia e tava inteiro no final. Ele ainda era marrom...imagina agora. Rola de preta é assim...ninguém pode abrir brecha nenhuma!! Só se vê rola muito movimentado até faixa azul...depois é dar mole numa gola...num braço...e já era...foi o que rolou nessa luta! Salve salve Galiza!!!
É engraçado a quantidade de babaquices que postam só para aparecer ou querer dizer que é graduado (muitos invejam quando "poucos"lutadores se tonam top conquistando seu lugar ao sol) Telles e Galvão sempre foram parceiros, foi uma luta de tom recreativo Galvão entregaria a luta e Telles não queria que ele entregasse valorizando o pupilo "Um treino entre amigos e uma ponte para Galvão" "R. Cabeça"
Olha não sei quando foi essa luta, mas pra luta de faixa preta os dois estão horriveis...comentendo erros técnicos gritantes. Luta horrorosa, conheço faixas amarelas que fazem lutas muito mais técnicas...um horror
@drevis86 Na moral, você é quem deve ser faixa branca. Esses dois caras são muito bons, e o Telles é famosíssimo por seus ataques da guarda tartaruga.
I totally agree. He has a good turtle no doubt, but that does not mean it should be his go to position. He should only use the turtle when forced to and try to use other dominant positions.
Even when he was a blackbelt he was still trained by Telles although Galvao is Terere student but Telles and Terere were the co owners of the school before they parted ways!
these guys are best friends I doubt they were going 100 %, but it was very entertaining. Telles seemed to lose his concentration for just a sec and thats all it takes when playing turtle. Lmao trillo telles fought mma ans won.he did'nt use the turtle he took the guy down and armbar'd him. So he fights well enough, but he knows in sport bjj his best postion is turtle.
Nice! Galvao had a pretty good strategy...tried to roll or flatten out Telles but resorted to snagging the choke first and getting the hooks afterwards. I've rolled a few times with Galvao and he's a beast!
Telles plays turtle guard its true. In this blaclbelt mini-tournament Telles tapped out the other blackbelts he faced, but when he met Galvao he resorted to his 'bread and butter' - the turtle guard. And Galvao, being the absolute master he is, had a plan. Peep the 'reverse ezekiel' choke at the end. Galvao put a brilliant submission on Telles effectively shutting down his most famed and skilled position. Woot! *snuggles BJJ :)
if you knew anything about jiu jitsu you'd know that Telles and that he always plays the turtle guard. this is sport jiu jitsu and the turtle position is really powerful (eg. he wins a lot of fights). bjj for mma is totally different and please stop acting like you know anything and that telles gives bjj a bad rap b/c it makes you look ridiculous. if you can't decern the difference between sport and mma bjj than you are a moron.
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I can't believe this guy gave his back for a full 6 minutes!!?? WTF is this sport jiujitsu coming to............ Guys like these are the ones giving jiujitsu a bad rap, especially when they attempt a real fight.
is that josh barnett in the black shirt standing up talking under the basketball hoop later in the fight?
edwardokessler 3 months ago
To all the turtle haters out there, i say this: for self defense purposes, "position before submission" is a good motto. for mma or sport grappling purposes though, the value of a position is relative to the amount of control that you can personally impose from that position. Telles can impose alot of control from the turtle position even though it was originally labeled by the Gracies as a "bad position". A better motto for sport purposes would be "control then submission".
luchador1764 5 months ago
Wtf is up with the cameraman? He's recording the fight while I am watching the ref lol
Kubrickswookie 6 months ago
Turtle Guard = haha
manalotj 10 months ago
GET THE FUCK OUT OF THE WAY
RVGENomini 11 months ago 2
Have fun trying to use the "turtle guard" on the street...
jasong13 1 year ago
@jasong13 its a sport. do you actually think normal ppl will just pull guard in a street fight or turtle up?
yuenj01 1 year ago
@jasong13 You're dumb if someone goes to turtle guard it is because of being snuffed from the normal positions, which your typical street fighter will not be able to do. When I have turtle if you are not presenting downward pressure then I am going to fall to my back and play open guard which will make the fight neutral. You give street fighters way too much credit they tend to be irascible people and fight viscerally, people like that fighting Martial Artists and defeating them is piffle.
jagexisthedevil 11 months ago
@jasong13 have fun using any guard on the street.
crabbit87 6 months ago
Além de excelente lutador, o Telles é uma pessoa extraordinária. Já treinei com ele e sei que o cara é de mais.
diogogoldteam 1 year ago
Andre Galvão e Eduardo Telles são monstros do Jiu Jitsu. Hoje eu fiz um rola com o Telles e posso dizer com total autonomia: Não é para qualquer um finalizar um atleta como ele. E digo mais: se em 2008 a guarda dele já era chatíssima, vcs precisam ver agora!
idstool 1 year ago
masterful.
chesterfieldking 1 year ago
Turtle style will get your ass beat in a street fight!
SuperSneakySteve 1 year ago
@SuperSneakySteve if telles fight in the street he gone kick your ass , watch eduardo telles vs. rafael el sapo
drwang100 1 year ago
@SuperSneakySteve Who are you again? What are your accolades in Martial Arts? Exactly you are a troll and your opinion on this subject is worth null. A street fighter could not get a BJJ practicioner to turtle your typical street fighter is retarded. You say turtle is a position that is detrimental but it's not like you understand any position in the BJJ system so no one will take your feeble-minded opinion into consideration.
jagexisthedevil 11 months ago
Didn't they use to train together at TT?
holdyerground1 1 year ago
@holdyerground1 Yes he did, so I was wondering the same thing as to why they fought? Seemed like in Galvaos new book to have good feelings towards Telles.
Armbar4you 1 year ago
he's better when he doesn't play defensively.
rommelcs79 1 year ago
nossa esses caras fazem jiu jistu em q pais nao sabem quem é o galvao e o teles pow é melhor mudar de esporte porq nao tentam a peteca ou o frescobol porq de jiu jitsu nao entendem nada
edgarsilvasurf 1 year ago
Olha só, sou só marrom ainda aprendendo, mas sinceramente não entendi a técnica do lutador de preto, uma escolha infeliz de combate, muito infeliz. O pessoal que criticou não está errado não.
Talvez tenham comentado de forma pejorativa e isso irritou outras pessoas.
Mas o fato, analisando secamente, o jogo escolhido pelo atleta de quimono preto foi um jogo ruim do começo ao fim.
Desculpe, e como eu disse ainda estou aprendendo.
sambadepacone 1 year ago
@sambadepacone O Telles tem uma guarda muito chata e o jogo dele é esse e é muito eficaz. Apenas o Galvão conseguiu anular bem esse jogo.
domingos79 1 year ago
@sambadepacone Ninguém entende esse jogo do Telles. Mas se vc já viu ele em competições, sabe q esse jogo funciona contra atletas de alto nivel. Eu também não entendo, mas sei que com ele funciona...O André Galvão soube anular esse jogo. Mas não é pra qualquer um
dougbit 1 year ago
Galera, tem muita gente falando merda mesmo...conheci o André Galvão quando veio visitar Brasília, o cara tem uma técnica absurda...fez rola com todos da academia e tava inteiro no final. Ele ainda era marrom...imagina agora. Rola de preta é assim...ninguém pode abrir brecha nenhuma!! Só se vê rola muito movimentado até faixa azul...depois é dar mole numa gola...num braço...e já era...foi o que rolou nessa luta! Salve salve Galiza!!!
cavalhero1 1 year ago
o pessoal nem sabe o que ta comentando aqui !!! duas feras do jiu jitsu, faixas preta de elite ... hahahaha
lukao0 1 year ago
Didn't Telles used to be his coach?
crystalnrich 2 years ago
@crystalnrich More or less. Telles used to be Terere's associate at the academy and Terere used to be Galvao's coach.
domingos79 1 year ago
@crystalnrich yes
bjjartist 1 year ago
@bjjartist ok, two different answers now. haha Thanks.
crystalnrich 1 year ago
this was a really boring match... :(
moonrider99 2 years ago
is that daniel charles pereira refing? and was the gracie barra hong kong team at the match?
imahksdu 2 years ago
É engraçado a quantidade de babaquices que postam só para aparecer ou querer dizer que é graduado (muitos invejam quando "poucos"lutadores se tonam top conquistando seu lugar ao sol) Telles e Galvão sempre foram parceiros, foi uma luta de tom recreativo Galvão entregaria a luta e Telles não queria que ele entregasse valorizando o pupilo "Um treino entre amigos e uma ponte para Galvão" "R. Cabeça"
sacihead 2 years ago 4
Olha não sei quando foi essa luta, mas pra luta de faixa preta os dois estão horriveis...comentendo erros técnicos gritantes. Luta horrorosa, conheço faixas amarelas que fazem lutas muito mais técnicas...um horror
emerson20051972 2 years ago
Vc lutou um campeonato de jiu jitsu na sua vida?
Sabe que em o Andrea Galvao e o Eduardo Telles?
mezzokgjj 2 years ago
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Na moral. que luta merda e essa.. faixa preta ? porra ate faixa branca da gracie ta melhor q esses 2 lixos!
drevis86 2 years ago
that was a excibition, if really was there a medal things have been diferent
joacco87 2 years ago
Yes, they would both be out for blood.
crystalnrich 2 years ago
@drevis86 Na moral, você é quem deve ser faixa branca. Esses dois caras são muito bons, e o Telles é famosíssimo por seus ataques da guarda tartaruga.
JSHEIFETZ 1 year ago
eduardo telles is nuts, that turtle guard is some crazy shit
amendez7449 2 years ago
Esse Telle é muito fraco, ele é faixa azul ainda??? Coitado...
rafaquebras 2 years ago
toma otario, seu jogo é muito feioo!
andré galvão é foda!
kbcaoguns 2 years ago
passo carro
anotaram a placa?!
saqueto 2 years ago
Galvao got his belt from terere.
dan1paredes 3 years ago
the are team mates they got there blackbelts from valente
bigooo62 3 years ago
Pedro Valente?
H8machine888 3 years ago
Carlos Valente
txspider35 2 years ago
Telles has phenomenal skill, I don't understand why he insists on fighting from the turtle all the time.
cyclissmo 3 years ago
He has good attacks from there.
crystalnrich 3 years ago
I totally agree. He has a good turtle no doubt, but that does not mean it should be his go to position. He should only use the turtle when forced to and try to use other dominant positions.
aper3221bitch 2 years ago 4
@aper3221bitch he puts his money where his mouth is.
baelthedemon 1 year ago
@baelthedemon What???
aper3221bitch 1 year ago
@aper3221bitch He is known for the master of turtle guard and octobus guard and he does it in every fight.
baelthedemon 1 year ago
@baelthedemon Thats great buddy......
aper3221bitch 1 year ago
there were many times where they could have won the match with just simple submissions, and there was no attempt to even try to do them
lkjhijojouh 3 years ago
passou o tremm
bobpinto2 3 years ago
Andre Galvao is damn good but in no means is he humble! Telles on the other hand is a top notch dude. Always calm and humble!
RemainsOfTheUndead 3 years ago
cara esse joguinho do Telles é chato pra caralho
tem um mulek na cadimia q joga assim tb, é um saco!!!!!!!!
pett1977 3 years ago
This was a classic matchup!! Very nice
chicagoknowledge 3 years ago 2
Sode-Guruma-Jime
stevemarce1988 3 years ago
Telles used to be Galvão's teacher, when he was not a black belt yet .
Demordio666 3 years ago
Even when he was a blackbelt he was still trained by Telles although Galvao is Terere student but Telles and Terere were the co owners of the school before they parted ways!
vincespell 3 years ago
these guys are best friends I doubt they were going 100 %, but it was very entertaining. Telles seemed to lose his concentration for just a sec and thats all it takes when playing turtle. Lmao trillo telles fought mma ans won.he did'nt use the turtle he took the guy down and armbar'd him. So he fights well enough, but he knows in sport bjj his best postion is turtle.
pookafay 3 years ago
why would they not go 100%,its not mma and they should be professional enough to give their best effort anyway.
billysue2 3 years ago
in bjj. its a waiting game, sometimes. depends on oppenents.
roberto3331 3 years ago
hello! thanks for the video, would you happen to have galvao's other matches from that day. Galvao vs Ikuta?
swolebjj 3 years ago
Nice! Galvao had a pretty good strategy...tried to roll or flatten out Telles but resorted to snagging the choke first and getting the hooks afterwards. I've rolled a few times with Galvao and he's a beast!
-B
blown383 3 years ago
Hey, where did you roll w/Andre? I've always wanted to get a chance to train w/him.
KrishnaMegatron 3 years ago
He visited the gym I trained in for 1 time
kingkongtiger 2 years ago
Man! Galvao was alllll over him. What a brute. Nice.
bethklice 3 years ago
I was so busy taking photos, thank you so much for recording this one. It was a great match and a definite hilite of the weekend.
lukesatoru 3 years ago
Thank you Geeza...
It was simply awesome to witness in person.
And by the way, you're pretty much a living legend your goodself ;-)
lijiang7 3 years ago
That was a superb fight and well filmed. Thank you for posting this. Great match between two BJJ living legends. Galvao has been on a tear!!!!
therealgeeza 3 years ago
People,
Telles plays turtle guard its true. In this blaclbelt mini-tournament Telles tapped out the other blackbelts he faced, but when he met Galvao he resorted to his 'bread and butter' - the turtle guard. And Galvao, being the absolute master he is, had a plan. Peep the 'reverse ezekiel' choke at the end. Galvao put a brilliant submission on Telles effectively shutting down his most famed and skilled position. Woot! *snuggles BJJ :)
lijiang7 3 years ago 4
@lijiang7 turtled vs roger didnt go so well
lagook 1 year ago
if you knew anything about jiu jitsu you'd know that Telles and that he always plays the turtle guard. this is sport jiu jitsu and the turtle position is really powerful (eg. he wins a lot of fights). bjj for mma is totally different and please stop acting like you know anything and that telles gives bjj a bad rap b/c it makes you look ridiculous. if you can't decern the difference between sport and mma bjj than you are a moron.
havocya 3 years ago
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I can't believe this guy gave his back for a full 6 minutes!!?? WTF is this sport jiujitsu coming to............ Guys like these are the ones giving jiujitsu a bad rap, especially when they attempt a real fight.
TrilloJiujitsu 3 years ago