Kargil was a 'big success': Musharraf

[knsivakanth]

Fuck you all pakistanis.. go and eat pig shit

[jat2010100]

gaaaaaanduu

[vijayazhiniau]

you fuc(ing useless pak i idots. if you terrorists didn't fight with us. kashmir will become one of the top tourist place. i am talking about your side kashmir as well. you fuckers lisn ten to US and china. they don't want you or india to grow better. this shit never go into your terrorist mind.

You KASHMIRI even you hold key positions what do you get out of it. look at your shit economy.

if we make peace in kashmir we can attract tourism and that will help your people and our people as wel

[nkhullar1]

Pakistan is terrorist nation rest of world should be against them .. OSAMA BIN LADEN was found in Pakistan .. United Nation should attack and destroy pakistan

[739341]

Brave general now hiding in UK blady deserter from his own country shame Pak shame

[gauravcurious]

porki chutiyon ko musharraf aur ISI ne path padhaya, ki hamare 5000 mujhaeedin bhaiyon ne 2,00000 Indian army ke soldiers ki gaand mar di jabki haqeeqat yeh hain ki pakistan main sirf 357 army regulars ki deadbodies pohochi, baqi 4000-5000 deadbodies abhi bhi kargil heights main dafan hai. asa isliye kiya gaya taqi porki army apne jhoote aur khokhle daavon ko sahi saabit kar sake. aur yeh sab wo deadbodies hai jo mujhahideen ke bhesh main kargil se drass tak ghus aaye the.

[oldey123]

Why do always people blame each other..What the fuck is WAR? Is it just a pride between two nations or is it just after the war how many asses get kicked up on each side..Ok..Let's keep it this way..Can Indian never been killed by an Indian or Pakistan never killed by a Pakistan..War is nothing but just a fantasy..SAVE HUMANITY..The pain you will get when someone from your family is no more..When no GOD comes and rescue..When no RELIGION comes and soothen your heart..When no NATION protects you.

[KASHMIRI7864LYFE]

we still hold key positions india lost that war.

[nkhullar1]

@KASHMIRI7864LYFE You know what any country army lands in Pakistan and destroy its sanctity ... look how US attaked thrice .. And don't you dare to use kashmir ... it is and was Indian State ... we can divide pakistan again if you want to

[KASHMIRI7864LYFE]

@nkhullar1 pakistan gets paid out big time for that from the us but india cry like bitch wen usa gives pakistan modern weapons oh and by the way we carved pakistan out of india so we did the dividing oh and kashmir was never yours it was given to u by a piss drinker

[nkhullar1]

@KASHMIRI7864LYFE You mean to say US pays a lot for fucking pakistan? US can never attack on INDIA.

We gave pakistan to Lung cancered Jinnah ... And kashmir is and was part of INDIA... discussion should be of Pakistan occupied kashmir ... Tell me one thing ... why is Pakistani's mentality so weird and complex .. now you have started war with US .. have u people ever lived in Peace ... why you guys keep peeking in others territory .. apna aangan sambhalo fir dusro ke ghar ki khabar lena ..

[nkhullar1]

@nkhullar1 And one more thing .. India if needed during kargil would have sweeped Pakistan ... like in 1960's .. we didn't because we defend our own borders .. u all son of pigs keep trying to enter India ... obviously if a fox enters a lion den .. he will not be just fucked he will be destroyed .. bloody terrorists!

[KASHMIRI7864LYFE]

@nkhullar1 YEH BECAUSE PAKISTAN DOES THIS FOR THE US LOL NOW GO FUCK THAT COW PISS DRINKING BOLD MOTHERFUCKER GANDI THE FUCKING PISS DRINKER WERS BED SHEETS AND DRINKS HIS OWN PISS

[mark12345678965]

untill pervez musharaf is in government then every thing going fine but today every thing going to be destroys.

[HAFIX361]

watch?v=j_l73BVmlrs&feature=re­lated

watch this indian general admitted '' we r not convinced we are going to win the war it will take atleast a month for a bettellion to reach on da spot''

ahahahhaha Bloody indians......

[amaimabutt21]

JAY MUSSURAF ..DOWN TARANGA..DOWN KRISHNA MA KA PHUDDA...KILL ALL HINDUES KILL EVERY OPPRESSOR..PAKISTANNNNN ZINNNDAABAD

[engalipak]

fuk with the reporters axcent

[powerpk1998]

hindu shataniyo tumhare  ma ko lan GAYYYYYY HINDOOOOOOOOO

[smrsingh18]

pakistan ko aj nek soch wale leader ki sakth jarurat hai......ZiyaUlHq,musharraf,et­c leader ko chunana band kare

[Nick50115]

Why is he hiding in London? His own people will not trust him. India only has corruption to contend with. Pakistans problems are far more complex.

[Ahmad12791]

Kargil reality watch out

watch?v=oWwBbBhHV0w

[KASHMIRI7864LYFE]

Point 5353, the highest peak still Pak-occupied

[kprasad]

so basically he thought the defeat was a victory. this confusion with opposites explains quite a lot actually..

[Baadshahforever]

Pakistanis are the most immoral the most corrupt people in the world.

[IndiaCobra]

@Baadshahforever Immorality comes from poverty, you are unaware about English and American immoral PLEASE CHAKE YOUR BAG BEFORE SERCHING OTHER.BEWICE

[blackpearl098]

Result of Kargil War = India's new military doctrine (Cold Start)

Now dare to enter Indian territory again.. we will show you iron balls..!!

[kchgnathkc123]

What a loser man...What a loser Musharraf. Now hiding in London

[auzer1000]

@quad108

O.K I'll check it once again on Pak Army's website.I checked it tommorrow and I didn't see any 434 soldier's name etc //

[MegaServantofgod]

fucking loser..couldnt accept the humiliation..and poor sole wrote..line of fire..made a complete idiot out of himself..hehhe..these people r amaazingly stupid...

[auzer1000]

@quad108

ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh­h You are NOT getting the point.

Point 5353 is the HIGHEST POINT around Tiger hill hence important for Pakistan cuz that pretty much negates Indian height advantage at Tiger Hill.

Did you read my post??? Dude I CHECKED IT MYSELF..THERE WERE 127 MEN NOT 434 etc..Did you even bothered to check Pak Army's website? lol No more than 90/100 soldiers of Pakistan were present at tiger hill ..400 is too much for holding a point on the top of the hill.

[nandtalk]

@auzer1000

If you think Pakistan won.. so be it. BBC, National Geographic, Wikipedia, the then PM Nawaz Shareef, CNN, Cowasjee, are all wrong. Pakistan still controls kargil, & the whole world is planning a Gigantic Conspiracy to finish off Pakistan. Pakistan is never an aggressor, whether kargil or 26/11 etc but India is.

Happy Now? Its a resounding victory for Pakistan.

Am an Indian, and hope you are now convinced Pakistan`s/Musharraf`s victory.

[auzer1000]

@nandtalk

Annnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn Did I say Pakistan won? Thats the problem most Indians think that war is T20 match...War is an 'extension' of political issues ..Its not like 'we won' or 'you won'.I just said that 'Kargil' wasn't a 'glorious' chapter in Indian Army's CV.Instead it was a humiliation of a kind. Kargil was humiliation for Pakistan too at political front...But projection of Indian Media of Kargil as glorious victory is totally flawed.I think you would agree...

[nandtalk]

@auzer1000

Whether its Victory or not, it caused death of soldiers on both sides which was forced upon unnecessarily by Pakistan. You & Me sitting here shall comment about Victory while its the children of families who apparently lost. Not you me sitting in front of our laptops.

Yes. India was caught napping when Pakistani`s entered the kargil heights? and does it matter how many each side killed? Its a shame that fathers/brothers got killed unnecessarily.

[nandtalk]

@auzer1000

& what did pakistan achieve? International recognition is what musharraf said! International condemnation resulting in withdrawal is what world says. & withdrawal is a victory you claim! Military success, you might claim in occupying the heights and holding india for long time, but at what cost? Lives, and what purpose it achieved. Nothing, precious lives lost.

[nandtalk]

@auzer1000

Look at the Pak Army. Its nothing more than Mercenaries at best. They created Taliban at the behest of US & Now they kill the frankestien again at the behest of the US. US Paid them then & now. & who`s dieing? & what`s the value of life?

& what value have our countries (India included) given to the world? Scientific Innovations in the last 200 years!! Its all the US & West who contributed & instead, there`s only killings/poverty/deprivation in the name of religion/naxals etc.

[nandtalk]

@auzer1000

& finally, Victory is judged in entireity, which is the end result & not on peace meal basis as you are try to define..

Its time both countries look inward (forget Kashmir & every other dispute) & focus on the development of their & not divide on them religious/sectarian lines. If pakistan, in the current status collapses (economy/militancy etc), it will have implications on india too, too many guns/drugs coming in.

[auzer1000]

@quad108

Col Refering to Pakistan Army? in Kargil war? By the way I can quote your chapters from autobiography of GEN (not any col) Chuck Yeager :) And I am telling you that I MYSELF CHECKED IT..IT WAS 127 NOT 434..DIDN'T I SAY IT LOUD ENOUGH????? Did you even bothered to go to Pak Army's website and see it :) Yeah you just heard it on net and quoting me these figures lol...!!!!

[auzer1000]

@quad108

haha look you are revolving around.Its called 'red herrings'.Do you believe that Kargil was 'glorious' victory for India? I NEVER said anything about professionalism about Pak Army. Pakistan Army did defended territory sir :) Thats what I am telling you.Out of 5 0r 6 points captured..3 are STILL UNDER PAKISTAN ARMY'S control.Indian Army's ONLY (Strategic) gain was tiger hill at the cost of 587 lives ..Why putting quotes here? Who is this Col S.V.E etc? Actually I didn't get this quote

[auzer1000]

@quad108

Gen.Ali Kuli Khan wasn't even knew of kargil :) I am quoting general Kishan Pal who was comanding troops AT KARGIL.Who's judgement is more credible?.Even your opposition and your Media said that kargil wasn't a victory (: Sir,quoting Media and different people is not really appreciating in my books.I have met soldiers that fought in Kargil :) And still you didn't give me any source of your claim of 434 casualties of Pakistan?? As I said..It was something around 127.

[auzer1000]

Aannnnn..sorry but let me clarify..

What was India's gain of 'Kargil war'?? yeah the Biggest gain was the recapturing of 'Tiger Hill' BUT you lost 587 soldiers and officiers right? The 'Final' assault may have caused 40 soldiers (Which is still pretty high) BUT you lost 587 in Kargil war and just gained ONE POINT.Still atleast 3 points that Pakistan Army are STILL UNDER PAKISTANI CONTROL .I am referring to Tiger hill because Indian media potrays it as 'glorious' victory which it was NOT.

[auzer1000]

@quad108

587 soldiers and officers for JUST ONE POINT is a COMPLETE FAILURE for any professional Army.And I am not saying this out of my love for Pakistan.THIS IS A FACT.I am not insulting your brave soldiers but I am criticising your corrupt , incapable and selfish elite of Army.Kargil brought many 'dark spots or embarrasments ' to your Army.Pakistan Army exposed Indian Army's artillery 'hole'.Remember you Army was out of guns when Pakistan Army attacked you? Kargil wasn't a glorious chapter

[auzer1000]

@quad108

And even Indian Media criticized Indian Army for pathetic failure..Didn't they? 'Indian' gains were NOTHING when compared to the CASUALTIES inflicted in the process by Pakistan.If you know little bit of military issues you would understand what I am saying.Even Indian General said that he was never convinced that whether India really won kargil."Yes we did take back the territory BUT in process we lost 587 men "..What does this sentence tell you (:

[auzer1000]

And thats what you think..Little to nothing?? Pakistan Army CHOCKED Indian Army at kargil.Your Airforce saved your ass other wise....

And last time I checked,Pakistan Army verified 127 soldiers dead..Were did you get number of 434? I'll check it again..And you are revolving around..MY POINT is that you lost more than 500 soldiers and officers for NOTHING (: IAF took back Tiger hill..Why you guys didn't use IAF at first? So,you see Kargil was a NIGHTMARE for 'Indian Army'.

[auzer1000]

@quad108

And result was expected....loss of 587 soldiers and officers for just ONE POINT.And Tiger hill was gained NOT by Indian Army BUT by bombing of IAF mirages. Did I say anything wrong? If yes then point it out. But you CAN NOT. Pakistan lost 520 soldiers in war in Mangora district and you know what..the gain was 2 complete cities and numerous small towns (Outskirts)..Now compare it to Indian Army..587 soldiers slaughtered for JUST "ONE POINT AT THE HILL"...Kargil wasn't a victory.

[auzer1000]

@quad108

Well,it IS stupid to quote wiki as reference.Notes section has million links.Even I can edit wiki.And my claims do not need references.Because all I am saying is that Indian propaganda of killing 4000 Pakistani soldiers is pure bullshit.NO GENERAL CAN EVER DEPLOY HIS 4000 MEN AT "ONE POINT" and that too on the 'top of the hill'.There were just 90 or 100 men on the tiger hill (: I am just point out your general's insane strategy of putting soldiers against enemy sitting miles above them

[auzer1000]

@quad108

Thats why I always regret talking to any fanboy. WHERE IN THE HELL DID I SAY 'Tiger hill' is under Pakistani control???? If you can show me that..I 'll be grateful to ya.

And ARE YOU FOR REAL !!!??? Quoting wikipedia as source??? I don't have time to scroll all 'wiki' notes etc.Show me authentic reference.If you don't have any then blame your own media cuz they brainwashed Indians so badly that now Indians look kind of a stupid. (NO OFFENSE).

[auzer1000]

By the way..Do you know the 'ratio' of Pakistani and Indian troops in kargil :) They were somewhere around 1:30.For every one Pakistani soldier there were 30 Indian soldiers..But Pakistan had the ultimate advantage ..THE HEIGHT.After knocking their head from kargil..India called out for IAF...!!!! Even today the highest point around tiger hill is still under Pakistani control :)

[auzer1000]

@quad108

And I am not saying that Kargil was good for Pakistan etc. The operation was excellent.BUT the freakin politics of Pak Army took it all away.Kargil (though planned woderfully) was just planned by only 4 generals.PAF and NAVY wasn't taken into confidence.If you are honest and well informed..then you would definitely know that IAF bombing damaged Pakistani Troops not Indian Army.And IAF had to dealt with by using PAF but we couldn't cuz first PAF wasn't ready and second I have explained

[auzer1000]

@quad108

Can you provide any link?? O.K tell me what should I write on google to see the report myself.There is no news paper as 'Pakistan tribune'.Express Tribune is one but not Pakistan tribune.And any claim of '3000 or 4000' is absolutely flawed.Read my previous comments to eldiablo10028 in which I 'thoroughly' explained that why militarily it is IMPOSSIBLE that 4000 Pakistani troops would've died.I don't need to go through newspapers ..I know military issues quite well. :)

[auzer1000]

By the way I am waiting for any Indian to come and start barking at me and start abusing me (A thing you guys are best in ).Open your minds.You guys are not slaves of any body anymore but most Indians still act the same.'Insulting,throwing insults and abusing' your rival is a trait of 'low-class'.If you have any point then prove it by FACTS not by your HATE.

No offense intended just wanted to point out how Indians give a bad name to their own country when barking crap on a serious matter

[auzer1000]

@quad108

And don't misquote..Kargil was disaster for Pakistan NOT militarily but politically.Mushi didn't though of political repercursions of this operation.Moreover he didn't take PAF and NAVY in confidence.When IAF was bombing tiger hill,PAF couldn't do anythng because Pakistan ,by then, has lost his political right.Our point was that PAK Army is not involved but if PAF had bomb back Indians ,world would've asked "Why PAF is bombing India if there is no Pak Army involved" LOL.

[auzer1000]

@quad108

So whats the point in rejecting bodies of soldiers? And can you show me where US state dept says of '700' Pakistani casualties?? And Kargil was actually Shame for Indian Army.It really was.I know military matters sir.Your Army was absolutely wrong in putting your soldiers head-on with Pakistani Army.Pakistan Army ,being on top of mountain, just slaughtered initial Indian onslaughts (as any professional and well trained Army would do).

[auzer1000]

@quad108

So leave dirty politics.Now one point you should understand.You IN THE HELL TOLD YOU THAT PAKISTAN DIDN'T ACCEPT BODIES??? Are you for real? What is your source?? Indian Media? Sorry but your Indian Media is most shitty I even came across. No offense but it really is.TOI is worst newspaper I ever read,you HINDU is pretty good.So coming back,Pakistan never refused to accept bodies of martyred soldiers.When Army goes to war its well known that Soldiers will die.

[auzer1000]

@quad108

Nopes you got it all wrong.Pakistan didn't published official number BUT now it has published it :).Go to Pakistan Army's website and there you will find 127 names.You are quoting Nawaz yeah right..he is not a military man and he is 'politician' of sub-continent.Do I need to explain and say something? I hope you got my point..You know that and I know that.Didn't opposition of India said "You want to celebrate you defeat" when GOI decided to celebrate Kargil??? Now what say?

[eldiablo10028]

Pakis are very embarrassed by their history, so they feel the need to lie and believe in conspiracy theories. Virtually all international observers note india's superiority over pakistan in all 4 wars, and yet pakis remain steadfastly delusional. Many think indian nukes don't work, that indians are not "martial", and that pakistan somehow won the kargil conflict.

[strikernr]

What is Pakistan? Nothing but Hindus and Buddhist who were converted by force during the Islamic invasion by Afghanis extending from 1200 A.D to 1700 A.D. and including people (Hindus) who converted to Islam voluntarily in this era to gain land and money from Afghan rulers for converting. You must read the books covering this era in India to know exactly what happened.

[KASHMIRI7864LYFE]

@strikernr STOP DRINKING PISS AND LEARN OUR BLOODLINE STARTED FROM PERSIA TO THE MONGOLS AND THEN THE PEOPLE HU RAPED U MOGHULS

[strikernr]

For pakis, deceit is written in their religion. No wonder every Indian in the west will warn his fellow newcomer Indian to not trust a sula/paki.

[usamasiraj]

@strikernr lolz, looks like u've read alot of comic books

gay hind

[9690nick]

first this lier cunt says no no they were terrorist & mujahidins & now says success...hahaha no doubt this pussy is frm 10th failed state porkistan.lol.

[9690nick]

world knows how porkis monkeys were licked up hard in Himalayas by indian army & musharraf is nothing but USA slave just read Bush's recent book how he test USA's hairy asses...lol & porkis who thought kargil is success than better educate or read UN report rather like u ever brainwashed sheep or keep bagging money...lol.

[haseebkhawaja1]

LUNDIA!!!!

[chex29]

Two totally different opinions on the person who created blunders...! This sums it up for Porkistan as whole.

[mkqashi]

i want t o say gay hind

[aniketranade]

Hahahaha...Love the shameless Pakis....Nawaz Sharif says it was a mistake....this chutiya says a big success....Looks like Musharraf likes it in his ass.....Try sending your mothers and sisters next time you cowards.....they might fight better than you guys...:))

[hindugando1]

i just want to say phuddi diyaa

[jatkshatriya]

saala kaisaa chutiya neech hai...ek sacche musalmaan ko bilkul represent kartaa hai....jab kargil hua tab national TV par interview de rahaa tha ki kargil mein terrorists hai fauji nahin...apne mare hue fauji bhi lene se manaa kar diye chutiye ne..aur ab kaise shaan se kehrahaa hai ki haan kargil maine karwaaya tha...porki chutiyon ye toh england mein apne katte land se angrej chod rahaa hai...iski wajah se ur pakistani soldiers died labeld as terrorists in the world...shame

[auzer1000]

well Kargil was Pakistan's Millitary Victory and India won politicaly...But Wars are the extension of Political Policies...SO India won the Kargil..!!

[eldiablo10028]

@auzer1000 No, India won the war militarily and politically. There is no controversy on this. You guys occupied kargil, and india re took it by force. India killed more paki troops and took more POWs. Your PM nawaz sharif wanted to nuke india after india started to reconquer parts of kargil, but Clinton was angry and told him not to. by that time, almost all of kargil was recovered.

There is absolutely no way pakis have won that war, every international source has india winning militarily

[auzer1000]

@eldiablo10028

Sir I don't talk with 'fanboys'. What is your source of information? Wars are not what general public think.Wars are extension of political policies.Your own military general that was leading the Indian troops on kargil sector said that he was never convinced that India really won that battle.His name is General Kishan Pal. Winning and loosing wars are not what average people thinks.!!!

[eldiablo10028]

@auzer1000 my information source? BBC articles, wikipedia, ny times, to name a few. The BBC article is the most informative. Did you actually listen to what Kishan pal said? His quotes:

"We did gain some tactical victories, we regained the territories we lost, we lost 587 precious lives. I consider this loss of war because whatever we gained from the war has not been consolidated, either politically or diplomatically. It has not been consolidated militarily."

[eldiablo10028]

@auzer1000 From this quote, its obvious that his definition of winning is different from conventional standards. He admits indian tactial victory, he just wasn't pleased that this tactical victory wasnt consolidated with the rest of indian held kashmir. however, every impartial observer reports india winning this war. you guys are welcome to believe in your delusions, though.

[auzer1000]

@eldiablo10028

huh..thats the problem with sheer nationalism.Do you even know what you are talking about? There is NO such thing called a 'convention defination' of victory.Victory of Army is a different thing.Victory depends upon the achievement of mission set by high command.And there is a 'proportion' in that too.Let me explain..Indian strategy was very very poor as they put their troops head on with Pakistanis.Pakistanis being on top ,slaughter Indians..

[eldiablo10028]

@auzer1000 the mission was to recover kargil from pakistani troops. the mission was accomplished. india may have had a poor strategy, but in the end they recovered lost territory. pakistan failed its objective of capturing kargil, whereas india fulfilled its objective. india win, pakistan lose.

[auzer1000]

@eldiablo10028

Just think about it..You lost 587 soldiers for just ONE POINT.Yup dear,you read it correct..for just ONE POINT.I am not boasting that Pakistani soldiers were better or etc but it was a blunder from you generals.How can you put up your Army head on against an adversary sitting thousand feet above them? Thats why later on IAF had to intervene and avoided India's sheer and I mean absolutely sheer humiliation.As I said,I am not a 'fanboy' who reads from wiki or BBC etc

[eldiablo10028]

@auzer1000 well bbc, wiki, and ny times are what rational and reasonable people use to understand facts and draw conclusions. if being a fanboy means to have an appreciation for facts, then i am the biggest fanboy ever. its called research my friend...books, news articles, academic journals, textbooks, encyclopedias etc all provide facts for us, and i use these modalities to further my understanding of the world.

[auzer1000]

@eldiablo10028

kid,sorry I made a mistake by arguing you.You are on typical sub-continental patriotic fanboy that knows nothing about military or its mode of operation.You are talking about bbc wiki huh..Sir,I have read the report that was given to Bill Clinton on kargil issue :) I can bet that you are a teenager or a college student. It is heavenly impossible that Pakistan lost some 400 0r 4000 men hahahaha...let me explain with a technical point of you.

[auzer1000]

@eldiablo10028

You said figures of something 4000??? Do you have a thing called brain??? How in the HELL would any military general would deploy his 4000 men on ONE POINT? Yes heard it right...JUST ONE POINT AT THE TOP OF THE HILL HAVING FOUR THOUSAND SOLDIERS???? Holy cow...sir with due respect...It is impossible :) You lost 587 soldiers just because of great height advantage of Pakistan.There were just few soldiers sitting on top of the hill..Now please don't say that Nawaz said it or blah bl

[auzer1000]

@eldiablo10028

I am not a internet parrot boy.I met with the soldiers that were fighting in Kargil :) Yes,I am not lying.As in the video Musharaf rightly pointed out...Kargil CHANGED Indian stance on Kashmir.You should know that India used to say that don't mention 'K' word in our diplomatic print out.This war changed their dilomatic stance.It wasn't a huge military success for India thanks to your general's mindless strategy.Less than 150 Pakistan Army soldiers died in kargil..!!

[auzer1000]

@eldiablo10028

You can check out on Pakistan Army's official website..the number there given is 127..but I personally know it was something around 160.Armies do that thing.Even 587 of Indian soldiers weren't accurate..By I can't say anything.Your or anyone else's claim of 4000 is IMPOSSIBLE militarily.I challenge you to prove me wrong technically ...IF YOU CAN .4000 soldiers can't be deployed on one point and that too on the top of the hill.You did take back tiger hill but in process lost more

[auzer1000]

@eldiablo10028

thats why you can claim 'kargil' as military victory.If you don't know than let me tell you...Even today the highest point around the tiger hill is under PAKISTANI CONTROL.I am forgetting that points name.It was something like point no.1153.. I don't know but I do know that soldiers there in Siachen/Kashmir sector have numerical names of different strategic points..!! I never seen an article of BBC on kargil issue claiming Indian victory.I'll be grateful if you show me that

[auzer1000]

@eldiablo10028

Again I am just criticising (spell ?) Indian Army's blunder of putting their brave troops in front of Pakistanis.Its a common sense that you just don't do that.And Though you took back kargil (NOT ALL POINTS CAPTURED BY PAKISTAN ARMY)..but in process you took too much casualties ..!!!

[eldiablo10028]

@auzer1000 pakistan lost anywhere between 453 to 4,000 troops. So even though india took casualties, it achieved its objectives. Look at Russia during world war 2; they lost more ppl than the axis powers, and yet they were military victors. in short, what matters is whether the objective of one side is achieved or not achieved...thats the defining point in deciding between victory and loss.

[auzer1000]

@eldiablo10028 I know that Russia lost more but the strategic gain was such that Germany was seized.War's fate was decided but can you see the same for kargil? What was your gain sir? Yup JUST ONE 'POINT'..Just consider the word ..POINT'.$ you lost 587 Soldiers.Do you know that Pakistan Army lost similar amount of soldiers but gain was three MAIN CITIES and COUNTRY SIDES around them from Taliban.The Area was THOUSANDs sq kilometers. Do you see the difference? Later is victory..FORMER IS NOT.

[madleon81]

Musharraf's wet dreams.... mutthia maarte raho Gen saab !

[choudrycheetah]

my dear indians when Pakistan was at the top positions in start of war than how defeat is possible. true is that we lost that war on the table by nawaz not in the battlefield bcz it is obvios that on good positions we can definitly have the success bcz india know this thing its own tv shows reveals that pakistan is exceeding in mesile technolgies and others, than how can we lost that war.

those dead bodies were propaganda by india, bcz v know how to honor our SHAHEED.

[eldiablo10028]

@choudrycheetah you lost the war because better and more skilled indian soldiers retook the mountains even in a disadvantaged situation. More pakis troops died than indians, and there were more paki POWs. Again, every international source claims an indian military and political victory. In short, pakistan always initiated wars with india, and moreover has always lost wars with india. Deal with it, terrorists.

[abdulbarijan]

hahha

Pakistan still holds the tiger hill

[gmaail444]

suar ke bachho tumhare katele lund ki jagha tumhare 2no bulle toh allah mangta 2 tumhari abaadi toh thodi kam hoti toh allah hu akbar nahi,'BULLA LE GAY-A AKBAR'BOLTE

[newton2day]

love Musharraf

lng live musharraf

God bless MusharrAF!!!

[bilaljhondavid]

bhen chood kargeel nahi hota kargil lund pakistan jeeta hai Kargil chutio jhanday pakar kar Photo khench kar puri dunya ko dikha rahay ho kargil ka lund khao mera

[lovepakistan321]

fuck musshraf

he sell pakistan

[MrMuraG]

LONG LIVE MUSHARAF

LONG LIVE PAKISTAN

[Asfandoo]

indian millitary knows their weakness. in kargil , and they know the casualities done at that time. , the ratio was like 1 of pakistanis and 20 of indian side , if people thinks that i am wrong then they can check the weaknesse of indian military side. i know truth is bitter but u have to accept it. and kargil war has been recorded as cease fire in he war history. pakistanis were in such hight they dey distroyed two indian planes out of 4.

[timberplace2009]

Katuastaan ki Katua Auaaad

Land to tera kat gaya, gaand mei dum hai to aa, khub maja aayega

[Pritash24]

is that wat U father told you...

[Asfandoo]

@Pritash24 : at least i know something. not like ur father. who does not know any thing not even u know something. and last time dont u ever say some thing abt my father. mind it.

[Pritash24]

@Asfandoo ask your father to teach you grammar.......... INDIA ROCKS AND SO DO INDIAN ARMED FORCES

[7777777SIDDHARTH]

@Pritash24 even his father is iiliterate!

[fun435]

@7777777SIDDHARTH your whole country iz illiterate dumb ass!!!

[fun435]

@7777777SIDDHARTH indian are happy bz they took small hills like tiger hill lol!!!!!

[farisfarooq]

@fun435 still indian army has a big weakness as they are incapable of sustaining a the Pakistan Army

[fun435]

@Pritash24 your indian army sucks are pig shit!!!!lol

[farisfarooq]

@Pritash24 hmm very true they are ROCKED by the brave foots of Pakistan army.....true india doesn't even has a proper nuke weapon Pakistan has 12 nuke weapons capable of blasting india out of the world map...all india has is failed technology XD....the reason arabs call u HINDI...AL HINDI......cz u don't have a reputation :P

[babur1231]

To simply put in plain words which every body in india and Pakistan could understand.

"Pakistan nay india kee ma choodh dee kargil may aur us kee bhan ko nunga kar kay road pa nachaya. : )

[timberplace2009]

@babur1231 Katuastaan ki Katua Auaaad

Land to tera kat gaya, gaand mei dum hai to aa, khub maja aayega

[NTSA87]

well there is no need to suffer emotional and psychological rigour friends.. India has tried to subjugate every country in the region but has failed in Sri Lanka, Bangladesh, Nepal but they could not gain enough strength to return a blow to India... However in case of Pakistan the indian dream has always been returned with a nightmare may it be cricket, hockey, intellectual competence, nuclear technology, land & air wars/ naval battle and it hurts india. a Pakistani

[Southiedesi]

NTSA87..

Really.. what about Bangladesh??? 98000 pakistani captured soldiers.. and lost half of your country..We gave away 14000 kms of land (sindh) back to Pakistan as part of simla agreement.. so please shut up and know the facts..

[NTSA87]

well i have replied you on yahoo service but for you it is enough to know that the more you agitate on kargil the more the world will know how successful we were and you feel the pain in you backside even today so it is better to save the rahi sahi unless u lose that as well... so shuttig up suits u cause i was there live and saw what happened dont have to depend on tales being told later on.. take care

[Southiedesi]

NTSA87..

World knows how foolish have you become.. I mean pakistanis .. and you are proving it 100%..

Dont live in denial my friend..!!

[timberplace2009]

@NTSA87 Katuastaan ki Katua Auaaad

Land to tera kat gaya, gaand mei dum hai to aa, khub maja aayega

cricket:: teri maa ne konse world cup ke baad bols tha ki tu hindustani ki arnjadi aulad nahi ha?

Hockey :: Bacho ko chocklate deni padti hai, aakhirkhar bache hai

IC, Chaddi mei reh ke baat kar.

NT, Maa chudaa

L, A, N: Charo taraf dekh bhikari desh ki bhikari aulaad, Teri Maa Behan already Delhi ke randikhane mei bik chuki hai

[daska66]

Underwear 786: The whole Pakistani nation hates Musharraf for 9 years of terrorism and instability. Musharraf proved to all of us that a bad dictator is worse than any politician by the instability Mush brought. 9 years of Musharraf and the only people celebrating were the enemies of Pakistan. Look at the idiot Zardari who accomplshed more in 1 year than Mush could do in 9 years of illegal rule. There is less terrorism, Taleban is on the run, macroeconomic idices are improving and more money!

[underworld786]

whoever hate musharaf..he can fuck his mums aswell indianz and nawaz harami bastards....

[ahmedjamal786]

long live musharaf

if even we bring him back today

he is capable enf to kick indian army ass

he is a brave soldier

[abhi7556]

@ahmedjamal786 ye vahi musharraf hai jo kehta thha" fauji vardi meri chamdi (skin) hai"

isse kabhi nahi utaarunga

or aaj sala bhagta fir raha hai

ise tum brave kehte ho

[Taimoork89]

these mother indians know they can't do shit about Pakistan so they make up these fake issues and blame Pakistan for it... PAKISTAN ZINDABAD!!! MUSHARRAF ZINDABAD!!!

[salman125]

One thousand pakistani troops nailed down 700,000 troops and thanks to the stupid Nawaz Shareef who came so easily under pressure by Clinton to bring relief to the 40,000 thousand dieing Indian troops in Siachin...Siachin will be free soon from the cluthches of Indian invadors!!!! so will be Kashmir!!!

[kl1567]

hello salman brother..ur former pm navaz is a good man....he knew that pak fighters couldnt survive in front heavy artillery firing and air strike by using laser guided weapons.More over that this mushraft ruined the name of pakistan infront of world...mushraft insulted pak soilders who were fighting in mountain terrain calling them terrorists and even mushraf army didnt accept pak soilders bodies....before bargaining for victory dont forget to honour ur pak soilders...

[JagaJatt4444]

Those One Thousand Pakistani troops were disowned by there own country, how sad is that. No one came to collect there dead bodies and Pakistan just claimed they were terrorists. at the End Pakistan lost. If this is the type of country you Kashmiris want to go be with by all means, but dont expect any help from INdia, financially economically or trade wise, because we are helping you now.

[jawadkazmi]

Long live our great and truthful honest leader Gen Pervez Musharraf....

[TheMughul]

musharraf zindaabad

[kl1567]

wht r u talking ....this bastard mushraf doesnt honour ur slained pakistan army soildiers..this man refused to accept pak soilders dead bodies..and insulted them saying they r terrorists.AND FREEDOM FIGHTERS ...morE over that he refused to give air power backup to pak army...when our INDIAN AIR FORCE USE LASER GUIDED BOMBS ON PAK INTRUDERS..ITS NOT WORTH who won ..honour ur soilders before barganing for victory...Jai hind

[TheMughul]

oyee murdaar hindu, they were u r murdaar army not PAK army dead bodies, LASER GUIDED BOMBS,haha, u spent too much money, + lose the war, we r muslim, we have jihaad, we r going to fuck u black murdar hindu, u people r najis for us, najis means bastard, harami.

PAKISTAN ZINDAABAD.

[avdesh0406]

ohey kate lund ki padiesh hamara waste khata hai aaur hame par gurrata hai

. appna lund sambal nahi to bacha hua b jaie ga

[TheMughul]

hindu murdar khor

[kl1567]

kabooomm wht a waste of life

[aaaattiisshh]

Oye Mughal badshah ke katele sardar...abey tu kya be katele chodne aayega...saale randi ki aaulad, aapni maa beheno ko to chudwane le aata haai...aaur jab hum chodte haai to fir chilate hue kahe ta haai...gaand maar di saalo ne

[77777771226]

@TheMughul muhammed the piglet the bullah kat gaya

[PathanAttitude]

Yeah, he is right.