1981 World Cup 400m women - Koch v Kratchvilova

[mahtivaari72]

During Helsinki world championships 1983 Jarmila Kratchvilova was called Jarmo by Finns. Jarmo is a common Finnish male name.

[sshanan1]

Love the description - Mighty takes on d almighty... perfect title for d video

[HotChixAndMusic]

PED's or no PED's, an athlete with the unique combination of natural born speed AND endurance that Koch had, would blow away all comers in ANY generation. EVERYONE in top class athletics, cycling, swimming etc, is on something and you are foolish if you believe otherwise. So even though her peers were on the juice, Marita still consistently blew them all away regardless.

[jubbadupa]

She really does look like a man !

[ImGrateful1990]

Which dude won this race? What was his name again?

[jeevane1]

that is a man in a woman's body she is jeters inspiration just look they are the same body type long lean and masculine

[mahtivaari72]

She was called Jarmo in Finland when she won 400m and 800m in Helsinki 1983. Jarmo is a usual Finnish male name.

[buroilu]

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[Standardfrank]

BEST WOWEN DRUG USERS OF ALL TIME...THOSE WERE THE DAYS WHEN YER CAN FINE-TUNE DRUGS...& RACE WITH HAIRS FALLING OUT YER PRIVATES & ARM-PITS...LOL! EASTERN-BLOCK-TECHNOLOGY!

[sequiaonda78]

Well, very weird to see Koch to loose a race...

[bycnapepus]

she is Sylvester Stallone

[shadow1985ism]

@bycnapepus hahahhaahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

[islandanka]

Well, I must say when I saw a document about Jarmila how she trained...wow, nobody,nobody in these day could manage that portion. You have to understand, they were more like machines then humans....

[404Orion]

UNBELIEVEABLE !!!! & The IAAF Kept Silent & Did NOTHING !! , That Era was a JOKE .... WHERE ARE ALL THOSE "FAST" EASTERN EUROPEAN WOMEN NOW !!!!

[rubberdildos]

Sir your prescriptions ready

[hasthanakshatra]

USA should remove the world records of all the dopers like florence griffith joyner. This is like day light robbery. Why is not olympic committe the IOA and other world bodies taking note of this. Marian jones accepted saying US athletes dope periodically. US is not fair to world athletics sometimes. Let's be sporty in the world of healthy competition.

[justnatural]

Was that Arnie Shwarzenegger racing in drag winning this race?

[BOOMSLANG85]

Very good performance for Kratochvilova !

[newromantic888]

yep muc 390 as it right.. Sad for the women today. All the records they chase are doped.

[idontsignin]

when she crossed the line i thought it was the mens 400m

[beebeechitown]

Two guys high on steroids doing a lap around the track.

How nice.

[GluteusKingMaximus]

I thought it was a dude that crossed the line, until I read the title

[PKCW22]

She looked like Sylvester Stallone.

[GluteusKingMaximus]

Whaha, Its true, its like somekind of rocky movie

[CHEETAH69]

lol. She did.

[Fatima502]

I don't think Kratochvilova was necessarily on drugs. You can't tell just by looking at people.

[athlete5399]

You can have a good idea of looking at an athlete from one year to the next. That kinda build on a woman does not happen overnight!

[Branded1978]

Perhaps. But I've seen more muscle on Gail Devers and Maria Mutola so what does that say about them?

[CHEETAH69]

You're a damn lie. Devers was muscular. But she was no where NEAR this behemoth.

[PKCW22]

Koch never really looked bulky but she admitted being on drugs.

[winterweib]

@PKCW22: Oh, she did? Then you must have been alone in a room with her and even IF you did, I still wouldn't believe you. She never 'admitted' this.

[massim67]

@athlete5399 you have the video of the 400m-men?...Thanks a lot!!Bye....

[TheCopper05]

@athlete5399 I read the book Faust Gold, that Marita Koch wanted the same kind of injections, that Barbel

Wockel had. I agree with you, that when you have a picture of a swimmer, athlete from a previous year, and then they show up for a competition a year later with a big build, others become suspicious and aware.

[nigelloflaveo]

@athlete5399 All those East Europeans [ and several americans too i reckon ] on drugs. Kathy Cook was clean and got cheated out of so many medals. Such a shame.

[ncaso]

@nigelloflaveo No - all british sportsman on drugs...

[nigelloflaveo]

@ncaso All ?? I agree there were and still are plenty of British cheats too. But , out of interest , if you saw Kathy Cook and Jarmila Kratochvilova standing side by side and you were told that only one of them was on steroids and you had to guess correctly to save your life - which one would you choose ?

[ncaso]

@nigelloflaveo Not every athlete from eastern europe looked like Kratochvilova and not every athlete from eastern Europe was on drugs. Yes, there were cases, as elsewhere. Only in the DDR was a regular procedure.

[schlagerhansi]

@athlete5399

But Kratochvilov wasn't a woman, he was a man! (Today, that's official, but even then, everybody knew -- look at the result board ;-) And that's a fact you can tell just by looking at him.

[beebeechitown]

@Fatima502 Hilarious! Ben Johnson drug coach Charlie Francis said in his book "Speed Trap" that even the East German women athletes laughed at how much Kratochvilova "Looked like a man". I'd like to sell you an official" Abraham Lincoln penny" for only a 100 bucks on Ebay.

[Fatima502]

I never said she didn't look masculine, she even had a masculine running action in the 70s when she couldn't break 53 seconds. In any case my point was that you can't tell people are on drugs just by looking at them. There are many feminine-looking athletes (e.g. Katrin Krabbe) who are proved doping violators, but presumably you wouldn't have picked on her.

[Shrubb1879]

@Fatima502 - Do you still believe in Father Chirstmas and the tooth fairy?

[Dazzler23]

Pair of druggie cheats.

[tietajajoshua]

STATISTICS CALCULATION - from

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[aquamarineeyes]

are you on DRUGS "tietajajoshua" or are you just a sad little cretin that is posting on all of the great Marita's races? SADDO!

[404Orion]

Go Jacquline Pusey Jamaica , the TRUE Winner of this Race for the Americas , It's a SHAME what the IAAF etc. allowed to go on in those days these People Distorted Women Sprinting & to add Insult to Injury they kept the Distorted "World Records"

[Ras09true]

Looking at that build,you instantly saw Marian Jones staring you in the face,and to a lesser extent Jetter.but intrestingly enough take a look where these Europeans are at now.

[CHEETAH69]

Kratochvilova looked nothing like Jones or Jeter. She literally looked like a dude. A big, hulking, muscular, masculine and, almost sexy, dude.

[muc390]

two of the biggest dopers in history along with Flo-Jo....

100,200,400,800 world records shouldn't exist....

[Branded1978]

why the 800?

[aquamarineeyes]

Flo Jo was the biggest cheat in the history of womens athletics. Her records should be scrapped! DRUGGIE!

[SeriousMickey]

@aquamarineeyes

Remember, you're only a cheater if you get caught. Therefore, Flo Jo, Carl Lewis, MJ, Tyson Gay, Usain Bolt and pretty much most of the elite sprinters in the last several decades are not cheaters, if you know what I mean.

[idontsignin]

@aquamarineeyes they where all on drugs in the 80's why do you think no woman has got close to the records and i class field events as well as track events.

[idontsignin]

@muc390 your forgetting field event records that still stand from the 80's

[herbieo1967]

@muc390 I think you should add 1500, 3000 and 10,000 to that set by Chinese athletes in China who did nothing before their world record year, and with one exception nothing after. If I remember correctly not one athlete broke those world records at the same meeting, but a handful. Go and figure that one out

[muc390]

@herbieo1967 you're right, that was even more obvious because with the exception of Yunxia Wang who won Olympic Gold in 1996, all the others disappeared right after...

and add the Shot and Discus too...

[gregaths2016]

@muc390 don't forget the long jump, triple jump, 100 hurdles and 400 hurdles. I know that no one has really talked about the 400 hurdles record, but for me there are so many signs that Pechonkina was dirty..

[StewNWT]

jeebers Kratochvilova has such an insane android body shape, look at those lats

[MrM0j0Risin666]

To Youtube:-

Yes I agree, I quite like the scum scum scum scum one too! :)

[aLOTofGAYSEX]

Is that a penis?

[MrM0j0Risin666]

Koch is a self-confessed user of steroids. As for the other one it was altitude training combined with Czechoslovakian beer-fermenting yeast. Amazing, but that's what it does.

[Branded1978]

Thats not true. Koch has never confessed to using steroids. Which is why her records still stand today.

[MrM0j0Risin666]

Yeah you're right. However the doping plan records from E.Germany make it clear she did. So why the record still stands beats me.

[Branded1978]

Beacause those doping plan schedules could have been written by ANYONE and due to nature of how they were discovered combined with the the rivalry between the west & east a conspiracy theory is actually easy to believe. Maybe she was on something but it can't be proven. However, this was the eighties. I wager 95% of athletes were dirty.

[MrM0j0Risin666]

That 'anyone' you are referring to was the East German government training programme.

[aquamarineeyes]

It was NOT from the East German government but a sports institute and even they have been found wanting with bribes to say certain things after the fall of the Berlin Wall! Get your facts straight.

[MrM0j0Risin666]

Let me remind you that all of those sports initiatives were Government endorsed and government sponsored. This was a government led machine. Now you can say all you like once the Berlin wall falls (where were you? I spent the evening with some US marines) but records are records. Next you'll be denying the holocaust and all because you're thick as pigshit.

[MrM0j0Risin666]

I've looked at your comments on your profile. You're just a mad piece of shit.

[MrM0j0Risin666]

Barring that you're Marita Koch but I'm God and I don't give a shit.

[aquamarineeyes]

you are extremely lucky that you can say such bile to me over this forum as if it were face to face, I would tear you limb from limb you racist anti German scum for brains! Marita Uber Alles!

[MrM0j0Risin666]

racist? anti German?

I don't think you see where I'm coming from. You are ALL scum. There are no exceptions. Proof? You would tear me limb from limb. Go away monkey.

[aquamarineeyes]

Who exactly are all scum you idiot! Away back to the trees where you lot belong!

[MrM0j0Risin666]

Everyone. That's just how it is. From my point of view it's still better this way. Look around and what do I see? Scum scum scum scum scum. See you when you decide to come down from the trees scum.

[Branded1978]

make it clear yes from the period of 1981-1984. She broke the record in 1985. Theres nothing on her.

[aquamarineeyes]

Well said Branded1978! There is not one shred of evidence against Koch. The misinformation on wikipedia is not professionally verified. Marita Koch is the greatest athlete of all time!

[ROUGHBULL]

hey that`s the most funny thing i have ever heard. why don`t they do it anymore? and why never did that any other czech athlete afterwards? :-))

[sequiaonda78]

I was specting this video for the last 3 years. Since I saw the 400 WR of Marita Koch... Thanks, for posting Athlete5399

[bzach71]

Yup..Well said nephron. Thanx SO MUCH athlete5399. Love the good old days. Keep on posting.

[nephron6]

Thanks so much for your uploads Athlete5399. I have many of these classic-era clashes on VHS and have not seen them for many years (especially this historic one). I am of the same vintage as you and it seems we share the same memories. Anything that features those legends Ashford or Koch deserves to be seen by as many as possible, in my opinion. Thanks again!

[idontsignin]

thats a man. or at least steroid aided.