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  • La collaboration wallonne et bruxelloise-francophone avec l'Allemagne et les forces de l'Axe.

  • Leon Degrelle por siempre en mi corazon!!! Un valiente soldado catolico y con los huevos bien puestos, no como los putos aliados Putos aliados que se aliaron los Yankees con los comunistas para la supuesta salvacion de los judios, cuando Stalin hacia pogroms contra los judios y los yankees no dejaban ir al mismo baño a los blancos y a los negros...Putos hipocritas!!!

  • @elarrancacorazonesar Y dime tontokulo, porque los nazis asesinaron brutalmente a la hermana Restituta quien era una monja catolica?

  • MAGNA EVROPA EST PATRIA NOSTRA

  • Without a doubt one of the greatest heroes of the war..

  • @SirBoboBalde long live Hitler !

  • @SCHEDTER YES LONG LIVE HITLER :)

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  • TEN TO ONE!

    Fokjock,

    Ein Soldaten aus ehemaligen Grossdeutschland

  • DEFEAT for you-haende hoch untermann!

  • its sore LOSING isn't it?

    Never mind, it time for you 10 o'clock WANK?

  • Are you crying now little gayboy?

  • Ok, 6000 Dead Germans on the Greek mainland?

    How many dead Greeks then?

  • ON CRETE, YOU MORON!

  • Yes, but were debating how many died on the Greek mainland?-Germans/Greeks

    Don't you remember?

  • Now, we're changing the subject again... Right... Now the main guestion is: WHAT'S YOUR SOURCE, YOU LIAR?

  • You mean you are changing the subject.

    I was good enough to tell you howmany Greek soldiers and howm any German soldiers died in Unternehmen Marita.

    I gave you the following figures.

    German dead-1099

    Greek dead-13,325

    Do you diagree with these figures? yes or no?

  • you disagree?

  • WHERE DID YOU FIND THEM? SIMPLE!

  • You therefore agree that German soldiers were killing Greek girlies at the rate of 10 to 1?

  • WHERE DID YOU FIND THE FIGURES, CUNT?

  • You're the googler cunt-go and find the figures that are lying waiting for you-you've been good at googling up to now.

    You KNOW you are wrong, you KNOW the Greeks were steamrollered by the Wehrmacht, but because you are yet another homosexual Greek with an overinflated opinion of yourself, you can't bring yourself to admit HISTORY

    I can hear the fart gas escaping from your deflated ego right now!!

  • HA-HA-HA!

  • TALKING ABOUT YOURSELF AGAIN?

  • YOU ARE A FUCKING COWARDLY PUSSY!

  • TEN TO ONE!!

  • YOU CAN'T EVEN TELL ME THE SOURCE!

  • YOU LIAR, YOU DIDN'T KNOW THE NUMBER!

  • YOU FUCKING GOOGLER, YOU LIAR!

  • WHAT'S YOUR SOURCE?!!

  • Go back to page 2 with your short memory , you said quote:-

    "THE INFO, YOU TWAT! THE INFO! "

    Well you'll get the info, BUT WHERE IS YOURS??

  • I told you, six fucking thousand. What the fuck do you want? And, honestly, how old are you? You beahve like a fucking child. Is this how you're gonna prove you're worth something? Ha-ha, for fuck's sake.

    And if you didn't google it, you wouldn't have any problem telling me the source.

  • Good-so are we getting an answer at last?

    How many Germans, how many Greek?

    Is that 6000 Greek you say?

  • I asked you first, you smartass. I remember what I said. Give me a fucking answer, it's so simple. You accused me of googling while I wasn't doing so. Give me a fucking answer. But, I'm sure you googled it, you fucking liar.

  • Having some trouble are we?

  • Ha-ha-ha, whatever, you faggot. You are fucking stupid. And you are a fucking liar. Now, you started playing games? You are hilarious. "I'll give you mine, if you give me yours". Ha-ha-haa! Fuck off, dude. Just fuck off...

  • You accuse me of googling when that's what you've been doing all the time, you hypocritic son of a bitch.

  • Also, I told you I am learning German, you cunt. Therefore, I can only create simple sentences. WTF? How can you be such a cowardly pussy, man? "And I'll give you mine" XD

  • Fucking liar, you've got some nerve...

  • Come on now-you asked me for figures for the casualty figures for Unternehmen Marita?-the land campaighn in Greece 1941.

    YOU ASKED ME for my sources?-now produce you figures-I can produce figures-CAN YOU? So SHUT THE FUCK UP if you can't you lying bastard.

  • When the fuck did I ask you about anything, you retard? Did I ask you to give me fucking figures? You did it by yourself, because you thought that this would annoy me, for fuck's sake! If you can produce figures, you asshole, regardless of the source, when what the fuck is your problem about me supposedly googling shit?

  • What kind of an idiot are you? You've been doing it since the beginning, you pussy. Fucking pussy, man. And you've got the nerve to accuse others. Fuck you man... You are a fucking lying piece of shit...

    And still, you're too ashamed to say where the fuck you're from, miserable moron.

  • You've a short memory, YOU SAID, quote

    "Oh, did you just look it up, you fucking pussy? WRONG information. Cocksucker.

  • And who THE FUCK cares if anyone can produce figures, you moron? Is this the whole fucking point about fucking history? I don't fucking remember! But, I remember the figure of the Battle of Crete, because it was fucking remarkable. But, what the fuck am I telling you? You are a fucking liar. Who FUCKING GOOGLES!

  • Now you are BACKTRACKING you liar, you say I'm wrong but YOU can't produce the figures

  • Ha-ha-ha! You're funny! You're fucking funny! I asked about your source, and you didn't answer my question! You didn't answer it, did you... Who's backtracking, you lying coward?

  • I asked you for your sources-you couldn't even tell me how many of your Gay Greek army died.

    I told you I'd produce my source.

    I already gave you the figures, which you said are wrong.

    SO WHAT ARE THE GREEK/GERMAN CASUALTY FIGURES YOU CUNT?

  • WHERE DID THE FIGURES COME FROM?

  • The figures you give are 4 answers down, you said quote:

    "I told you, six fucking thousand. What the fuck do you want?

    IS THAT CORRECT?

  • WHAT'S YOUR SOURCE????!!!!

  • I take it you now are saying you didn't say 6000?

  • I SAID 6000 GERMANS, CUNT!

  • WHAT'S YOUR SOURCE?

  • AND WHERE THE FUCK DO YOU COME FROM?

  • of course your Jewish blood stems from your Jewish ancestry in Austria, well known until many escaped before the war began.

    Where did your Jewish momma end up?

  • Yes, indeed, they escaped to Gayland (England that is). I know, extremely well known, you stupid faggot. And not only from Austria. So, that proves your whore mother is jewish, just as I stated in the beginning, you jewish, cocksucking faggot. Hence the "superiority" bullshit you write about, you lowlife.

  • Your weak insults about the English are like water off a ducks back as I'm not English you fudpucker.

    Gayland=Geiland your "heimat"-"Osterreich" land of the pervs and your onkel Fritzl who taught you all your incestuous ways-gaemes for all the family ho-ho!

  • What are you then, you fucking cunt? Are you a little scottish pussy maybe? Yes, I think you are. A pathetic, assfucked little pussy.

    There in no such word as "Geiland", you retarded little faggot. What does "Gei" mean, you cocksucking little twat? Your heimat is the public restrooms where your father vomited you from his ass. That's right, the place where you are so used to suck black cock. That's your home and birthplace, you little english cunt.

  • One place I'm not is where you are you -that YOUR Gay Greek land

    Disd you realise that your Gay Greek fathers were invaded THIS DAY in 1941?

    Do you know how long it took for the Glorious Wehrmacht to reach Athens?

    Try APRIL 27TH-IT TOOK 3 WEEKS TO DISPATCH THE GREEKS

    REAL SOLDIERS VERSUS FAIRIES-NO COMPETITON

  • Faggots versus real soldiers you mean. They couldn't handle the resistance, those cocksucking german faggots. So, what did they do? They invaded Yugoslavia (no defensive line on this part of the borders) and then invaded Greece from there. So fucking brave, ha-ha-ha! The poor little faggots. Not to mention that the Greek army was already exhausted before the cunts arrived. Are you happy now, you little cunt? Ha-ha, why did you tell me that for, you fucking wanker? You're ridiculous. Fucking twat

  • The German "Faggots" defeated you in THREE WEEKS!-now if "faggots can do that, what does it say for your Greek ladysoldiers?-NOT A LOT!

    Then when they invade Crete the big brave men fired at the Fallschirmjaegers while STILL in their chutes!-big brave men the Greeks!

  • What the fuck are you talking about, you clueless wanker? They avoided the Greek and english forces and carried on to Athens. Where's the bravery, you cunt? Now, if an army is fighting in the borders and some bunch of faggots gows around and proceeds to the capital, what' the fucking point of fighting? You faggot...

    Ah yeah, awesome shit. You're right on that. They should have waited for them to unpack, offer them some coffee maybe, and then start fighting. You fucking wanker. 6,000 dead, ha-ha.

  • Oh yes , casualties:

    GREEK DEAD=13325

    GERMAN DEAD=1099

    HAHAHAHAH!

  • Oh, did you just look it up, you fucking pussy? WRONG information. Cocksucker.

  • Your manhood can't take it Gayboy!!

    Greeks=gays in uniform

  • AH but don't worry, all the Greek cowards who were firing that went back to their villages were found out.

    Those with bruises on their shoulder from firing rifles were EXECUTED ON THE SPOT!

    LIKE YOU SHOULD BE!

  • And he calls other cowards. Typical german faggots. Their ass was in so much pain by the assfucking, they had to do something to ease the pain. Ha-ha-ha! You fucking wanker. And once again you're talking bullshit. They executed random people, you little faggot. But who cares? 6,000 faggots dead, you little cocksucker! 6,000! And Hitler went to his mommy to cry, ha-ha! And the nazi faggots didn't try sth like that EVER again, ha-ha!

  • You refer to the Crete invasion, penis.Even though the Greeks and British knew the Germans were coming, they still were victorious.

    There weren't random shooting, those cowardly civilians were singled out and shot rightly bu military firing squad for breaching military convention.

    Like you should be SHOT!

  • Total German deaths , Greek mainland invasion

    = 1099

    GREEK DEATHS =13325

  • Where did you read that, you sneaky fucking twat? Eh, you pussy? Wasn't I talking about Crete, you faggot? I don't give a shit what you mant. You fucking faggot! Answer me, you wanker, where did you read this, you fucking lowlife cocksucker?

  • Yes, I know like in every country they occupied. "Executed for partisan action", ha-ha. Common cowardness by the german faggots. You clueless little wanker!!

  • Thats right, and if you'd have been there i would have shot you too untermann!

  • Ha-ha-ha, you're hilarious! For fuck's sake, I can't believe I'm actually giving attention to such a frustrated faggot like you. Your country had such a gay army during WW2 that you can't even talk about them. You fucking pussy. Ha-ha-ha. Shut the fuck up, you silly cunt! You stupid faggot.

  • No, actually I would slit your faggot throat and fuck the stabwound, you gay, lying pussy. You fucking lying son of a whore.

  • You're giving attention to me because I'm your superior in every way-thats why-you can't geddit that whatever you comeout with I better your stoopid Gay Greek slander.

  • You don't even know which country I come from cockboy-but i was right about you you Greek pederast-no wonder they talk about "a la Greque"- ie UP THE ASS

  • Your brains would be splattered on Greek soil before you got 10 paces.

    I'm good with a Luger, especially when shooting Greek criminals!

  • Ha-ha, you fucking pathetic shit, I pity you. You are nothing but a smelly turd on the pavement, ha-ha-ha.

    You are the one with suckcock as a nickname, you english faggot, ha-ha. Yes, up the ass of faggots like you, you aorry ass wanker. You filthy swine.

  • Ha-ha, I give you attention because you are a funny bitch, you little retarded faggot.

    You are only a little pathetic shite who is so ashamed of where she comes from, that you cannot even say it, ha-ha-ha! You are a stupid piece of shit! Why don't you put your Luger in you cumfilled asshole and pull the trigger, you miserable, frustrated faggot?

  • Still, WHERE DID YOU READ THIS "INFO" ABOUT THE INVASION OF GREECE, YOU FUCKING FAGGOT?! ANSWER THAT, YOU PUSSY! YOU FILTHY SCUM, HA-HA-HA! YOU ARE A SHAME. THE INFO, YOU TWAT! THE INFO!

  • So you deny the figures?-they are not a matter of opinion, they are consigned to history-go and google it like you normally do.

    Despite your fragile ego the truth still stands wheter you deny it or not-just like you deny your homosexuality I would suggest

  • You give me your Greek+German casualties source and I'll give you mine

  • but tell me first how mant Greeks and how many Germans died in mainland Greece?-

    you won't answer will you, cos your a LIAR

  • COME ON THEN!-WHATS KEEPING YOU LIAR?

  • Also, what kind of logic is that, you retarded, brainless faggot? Did they act like the stupid fucks they are? They did! Did you expect the defenders not to exploit that? Also, to correct you on something. They didn't only shoot at them. They slit their throats too. Just when they reached the ground, ha-ha. You pussy cunt. While your faggot gay soldiers, be it english fucks or scottish pussies, were fleeing with shit in their pants. Ha-ha-haa, you fucking piece of shit.

  • I know where the jewish whore you call a mother ended up. Sucking pakistani and african cocks and getting fucked for a piece of bread with sperm on it. She seems to have a thing for subhuman cocks. That's why you keep talking about subhumans and acting all tough over the internet. You fucking idiot...

  • The Paki and Wog are your specialised minority interest.

    You m.o. is to make a curry, insert into your infested asshole and proceed to eat the resulting hellish cocktail thru a straw, knocked back a semen cocktail provided by your other esteemed gay lovers!

  • did you get fucked during your tea break????????

  • Only english faggots and cunts like you have tea breaks, you wanker. Your mum had a tea break, and wanted me to shoot a load in her tea. And her face of course...

  • UNTERNEHMEN MARITA=Wehrmacht susccess=Gay Greek defeat!

  • It's Gayland that's filled with these people. You must be an expert on every aspect regarding them. Although, you concetrate mainly on the sizes and colours of their dicks. Cool, you're throwing qute a party there with your boyfriends... Honestly now, you should stop this twisted gay fantasies of yours. They reveal too much about you, you stupid faggot. At least, don't share it with other people.

  • of course i don't underestimate the power of your pevereted mind.

    I know you are capable of having sex even while at the computer-even now some large cock is probably penetrating your reeking arsehole!

  • Now, who's copying whose lines, you little faggot? You are the one who acts tough over the internet while getting fucked by black cocks. You are the one who feels like letting other people know when he gets fucked by typing gay screams.

  • how often do you whang your microdonger in the kedgeree?

  • Again you got assfucked... Listen, you don't have to write it down... Your boyfriend can hear you already... But, if you want to notify me with another "heeeeeeeeeeehaaaaaaw!", I can't stop you. Do let me know when you'll get fucked again.

  • No, what you hear are the hallucinations brought on by your tertiary syphillis-you really must go and see your doctor!

    How many are you going to infect tonight down at the toilets?

  • Oh are you away for your 6 o'clock wank??

  • Yes, your mother wanted another facial, so I had to give her one.

  • no balls=no facial

    impotent one!

  • Ask you whore mother about my balls, you cocksucker. Just go now, to your mum. You'll find her whiping the cum from her face.

  • I told you:

    microphallus=no balls= no semen production you lying cunt.

  • the only cum going about is your boyfriends cum dripping from your lips!!!!

    wowee dickydido!

  • You mean your black boyfriends' cum dripping from your asshole and rotting in your interiors...

  • haha you really are only good for copying my lines-truly only an empty head but full of spunk ass!

  • Of course, I can't speak original faggot talk like you can... You brainless faggot.

  • no,thats because my COMMAND of englisg is far superior to you!

  • No, that's because your command of sucking cock and getting fucked is far superior to even your fellow faggots.

  • you no its true bender-i defeat you on every front bar your homosexuality!

  • You know it's true faggot. You are a faggot! Moreover, when you're not getting fucked, you jerk off while you trying to prove your dick is bigger that it is, and of course, that you're not a faggot. The englishman's curse, ha-ha.

  • Englishfaggot I mean.

  • You already know you can never be a sperm donor!!

  • How's it feel for me to better you at just about anyhing gaylord?

    You will "cum" to see my superiority.

    Just remember

    Untermensch=unterman=YOU

    Ubermensch=ubermann=ME

    hahahaha!

  • You should remember, you fucking lowlife. I'm not making such discrimintaions. Although, in your case, it is quite obvious that you are the Untermensch, you fucking faggot.

    Remember, there is no such word as "Untermann", you stupid piece of shit.

  • The word "Untermann" is a natural derivative of untermensch.

    The word describes you perfectly you imbecile.

    Under Hitlers eugenics programm, you would have had the 3 crosses made next to your name-and one less piece of human trash would be removed from society.

  • Shut the fuck up, you clueless, dumb fuck. There is no such thing as "Untermann". No, you've got it all wrong. It's you who would have such a fate. You are the half black, half jewish, cocksucking faggot. But, I think Hitler would keep you for himself, ha-ha. You know, to lick his one and only ball, ha-haa! So much of a faggot "leader". You are such a pansy.

  • You make me shut up go on what are you going to do about it??

    You are THE UNTERMANN YOU COCK GOBBLER!

  • I'm not going to do anything, you fucking retarded asshole! If you can't get it, what can anyone do? It's in your gay rights to say "Untermann", you Untermensch! Although, in your case, it's Unterfrau, ha-haa! You are an Unterfrau! Or maybe and Unterschwuler, ha-ha. Do go on, you pansy cocksucker. You braindead faggot.

  • You'd know all about "gay rights" would you.You are a professor of arsenomics, knowing every fine detail of the law and your ass??

    How else would you still be a free man instead of being in jail where you belong?

    Oh, still throwing in a little German to pretend you know the language?

  • I must admit that you beat me in decribing gay sexual intercourse... It's natural of course.. You are a faggot and, moreover, and english faggot. Remember? Tha national faggotry of your country? That's right...

    "Untermensch" is still "Untermensch", you cockuscucking faggot. Get over it. And I don't pretend I know the language, you retarded asshole.

  • You are a hero,Leon!My grandfather fought against nazis and he was called a resistant for that,but if I want to fight against the African invasion of my ancestors'land,I am called a nazi.Burn in hell grandpa!If you weren't dead,I would kill you by myself...

  • Your grandfather was just fighting against his invaders, as you now want to fight against your African "invaders".

    There is nothing to be ashamed of.

  • obivously look at an empire in history that maintained different ethnic groups under their jurisdiction. But having them even sharing the same land will cause conflict once the soveriegn breaks up. There are no excuses for non-white Europeans in Europe, simply put.

  • You will always remain in our memories over here, in Estonia. Great man!

  • I know Estonians hated the Russians but why don't you also hate the Germans. Both regimes were inhuman especially in this period of history.

  • True. But Soviet regime killed or deported over 20% of our population. So every family had lost someone cause of russians. When Germans made it to Estonia, many people saw germans as liberators and as an end to massmurders so they joined german side and started to fight against Soviet beast to make end to Soviet Terror. They didnt like germans, but German Army was a way to destroy Soviet Union.

  • ...especially after Soviet occupation in Estonia when we had no weapons to mobilize our own army. They gave us guns, food, everything we needed. Third Reich even promised liberation to Estonia if we help them to victory on the Eastern Front. (It was a lie of course, but people believed it then.)

  • I met an old guy when I was a teenager working in the local supermarket(in Rockingham Western Australia)that was Estonian who fought for the nazi's in WW2. I ended up telling him he was a disgrace to the human race. Maybe I shouldn't have been so hard on him.... He said he still had his SS uniform at home too. Sorry but I really hate nazi's and stand by my comments. Ever heard of Konrads Kolejs. He fought alongside that Latvian Nazi murdering bastard. Another criminal who escaped to this country

  • Well, its just your point of view. Since 1030, Russians have started 49 wars against my country...I would even be pleased to join Devil itself to fight against Russian aggression if nessecary. Sometimes you just have to choose between bad and worse...Estonia chose bad.

  • You are the only disgrace here. At least this old Estonian fought for justice. You just race mix, get drunk and appear otherwise worthless to everyone. Turd.

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  • Actually, my (great)grandparents lived in a country that suffered (as most european countries), though it's resistance assfucked the nazis. They also participated, even though they were very young. But, anyway, you've got a fucking stupid point. What does that mean? No they didn't, but still, everyone knows what the nazis did to germans people.

    Do you know how it's like to live in such a state? You cannot even fart without permission. Not to mention your political ideology.

  • What exactly did they do to 65 germans? Besides given them their proud back after WWI and a better economic system.

  • Hmm, yeah, I know. They gave them some fake pride for about 12 years, with a so called better economy, established with american money. Just 12 years. Then, the Russians came. End of fucking story, ha-ha. All of Germany lay in ruins, millions of Germans killed, no future whatsoever. Yeah, how nice!

  • Yeah, The Sovjets were obviously better people then the Nazi's. Killing 45 million people and creating 3th world countries in Eastern Europe.

  • There's no accurate number of the people that died. I said in my previous comment that he was a dictator and I don't consider him good. He was a piece of shit. But, he did defeat the nazis. Besides, the nazis killed people just because they considered them inferior. It was part of their "ideology". Well, yeah, they created 3rd world countries let's say. The germans occupied Europe and sucked everything that was useful. Fuck the natives, everything for the reich, right?

  • can't we just all live together and sing "we are the world" around a camp fire? :-(

  • Of course we can and I agree. With no one to tell us what to fucking do. With no one who doesn't respect his fellow man. With no fucking idiots, no nazis, no racists, not anyone who loves oppression and no one who cares only for their own ass. And so on... But, considering that this is the disgusting human nature, no we can't, after all. :p

    BTW, cheesy song! :p

  • People died in the streets from famine, because the fucking nazis wanted to use all the fucking supplies for the army or get anything valuable for their own. So, don't tell me about fucking 3rd world countries that the soviets supposedly created.

  • Everything is controlled. There's nothing you can do without the fucking government's permission. Everything is censored. It's like, "either you're with us or against us". What place is this, where you are jailed or murdered for your choices? You can be dragged to a fucking pig station just because your neighbour reported you as a communist for example. But, you can say that they liked it man. Or that these are lies. Let's pretend they are.

  • They were free to leave the country

  • How about "I want to be free in my own fucking country, MY country, and not have a bunch of fucking scum tell me what to do"? How about that? Leave their own country? Fuck this shit!

  • exactly what did the nazi's tell them to do?

  • "exactly what did the nazi's tell them to do? "

    What do you mean?

  • Still, you know fucking shit, dude. You're clueless. You know shit, but still you like the fucking nazis.

    Let me tell you this: If you are not fucking stupid like the rest of these worthless scum, you'll stop doing that.

  • Let me guess you think Hitler is the devil but Stalin a saint?

  • Typical crap that every stupid nazi lover says. I don't think that! Not at all! Stalin was a piece of shit, a dictator, but let's not consider him the same with Hitler. I certainly wouldn't like to live in the USSR either. I despise both regimes. And I am not in favour of communism or socialism. Got that? You reach to conclusions too easily.

  • And to give you an example on how well the nazis behaved to germans, check out that:

    Aktion T4

    I doubt you know fucking shit about that. So shut the fuck up!

  • There were 65 Million Germans, they only committed crimes against a very small group. I'm not glorifying them but don't act like everything was bad.

    Besides what does this have to do with Léon Degrelle who fought for my country Belgium?

  • Oh right. So, we forget that. We forget that they killed some thousands of german people. It's not that big a number, right? For fuck's sake! They killed disabled people! Germans, you idiot! They even killed disabled WW1 veterans! Also, there were situations when german soldiers in the eastern front where so badly injured and disfigured, that the nazis didn't want the german people to see that! So, they gassed them! It was bad for propaganda you see. Can you fucking imagine that?!

  • Did i defend that policy?

  • I hope you don't defend it. This fact alone is enough for me to see that nazis were fucking scum.

  • You said that the nazis didn't harm the german people, that's where it started. Anyway, you're full of shit.

    Yeah, I see, he fought for his country. In the fucking eastern front, ha-ha. Are you fucking joking? He was a fucking traitor, a nazi collaborator. He joined the occupiers of his country, he was a fucking traitor. After all, since he was such a hero who defended you country (in the eastern front; fucking hilarious), why did he fuck off to Spain when the germans lost the war?

  • Without the 400,000 volunteers the Russians would have reached Paris and the USSR would probably still exist today.

  • Oh, so you say that, because of 400,000 traitors the Russians didn't reach Paris. Ha-ha-ha! You're funny, dude. If the Russians wanted it, they would have reached fucking France, Italy and Greece. These traitors would be just blown away if the whole Red Army farted. It was all predetermined, divided and settled. They even slowed down, because the allies had problems advancing. You're too naive. Read some history.

  • Sure they would have, but the Russians were stalled for 12-18 months thanks to those extra Legions. By the time the Russians reached Germany the Americans came from the other side.

    Sure it was a kamikaze action, but it worked, Western Europe was kept communist free.

    And Bro, please don't talk like i don't know anything. At least i'm able to have a discussion without insulting people.

  • Yeah, sorry about that. I appreciate it, really.

    But, I tell you, the Russians even slowed down by their own, so that the allies could keep up. And again, you're exaggerating. The numbers of volunteers were much smaller, as was the number of those who got to fight, eventually. There were two belgian divisions, that's it. And man, this is not a reason to join the nazis. This makes you a traitor. The Russians weren't supposed to advance further, anyway. The agreement was that.

  • There sure shit weren't 400,000 Belgians that fought on the EF, i meant 400,000 volunteers from all over Europe. You had Spanish, French, Dutch.... etc... Legions.

    And Stalin obviously had not intentions to keep himself to the agreement. He was probably pissed because he wanted D-Day a few years earlier. For example keeping East Germany wasn't part of the deal.

    It's remarkable how close he was to losing at one point, his bags were littarly packed to escape at the end of 1941.

  • Do you by the way know that Stalin did a few very nice peace offers towards Nazi Germany?

  • During when?

  • 1941: He offered Hitler Ukraine, Belarus, Moldavia and the Baltic States. (The offer never reached Hitler)

    19 februari 1942: He offered the same + the Kaukasus, and also offered to fight together against the Western Powers.

    Some say he did at least 2 more, even one in 1944. (!)

  • Yeah, but it was settled after the end of the war. So, he kept it. After all, it's the allies' fault that they didn't make it to Berlin on time.

    Of course it's remarkable. 30 km from the suburbs of Moscow. But things changed right there. Leningrad was also remarkable. But most remarkable was Stalingrad. I mean, who would hold these places?! But, even if they captured Moscow, the nazis would still have nothing on their hands. They wouldn't achieve anything. It was just a matter of prestige.

  • Patton could have taken Berlin but he didn't get the persmission. I guess the Americans must have felt stupid when Stalin refused to give East Germany back.

  • It's because they wanted the Russians to do the "dirty work", actually...:p No, seriously. Stalin had every right though. It was completely reasonable. They advanced as far as they did, with the allies fucking around, and turning the tide of war all by themselves (in Russia). After all, everyone knows what toll the Russians had to pay...

  • No it wasn't.

    It was the opinion of the German General staff that had Moscow been taken, Barbarossa would have been succesful.

    Even Henning Von Trecow, not known for his support of Hitler believed if Moscow had been taken the campaign in the East may have been a success.

    For you to say "it wouldn't achieve anything" is totally wrong.

    Further when you say "it was the allies fault" they didn't make it to Berlin"-they were never meant to-thanks to Eisenhower-it wasn't the result of plan failure.

  • That was their opinion, obviously. And you say "may have been a success". Even if they took Moscow, still, they were in a totally hostile country with terrible weather conditions and partisan resistance. Plus, the Germans had replenishment problems, which was natural. But, the most important thing, the russian war factories were nowhere near Moscow. They were beyond the Urals, as you know. The Germans would never reach them. Moreover, the Russians had reserves of millions.

  • Yes, but you forget the factories could not have been moved in time had the Germans took Moscow with the original resources