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  • Describe what an alternative PC should be to the Mac Pro. I'm trying to by a new computer and want to get the most bang for my buck. When I guy a Dell or HP, I just get different problems.

  • @drucef you obviously don't know anything about hardware and that apple does nothing more than make an overpriced shiny product that breaks with a single error and limits the user from doing anything above apple approved software

  • @triloblitz you mean every time except when there's a single error and you have to buy an entire new Mac because it bricked itself from a cookie error.

  • @jpiflier Mac are shit from s hardware standpoint also

  • Sad that a 32 bit beat the shit outta that thing!

  • You are either a complete and utter shameless fraud or had no idea what you were doing. A single i7 will never achieve more than approximately 20,000 points at the very most at 3.80GHz. There are numerous videos available on YouTube which demonstrate this fact.

    Your high score was due to that fact that you were running the R11 engine, which uses a different scale. If you would care to use the same engine as AppleSoldier, you will find yourself greeted by a practically identical score.

  • let me throw my spinning wheel of death at that winthingy

  • You can't really compare an all-in-one PC to a tower PC. All-in-one is essentially a desktop notebook. Yes its price / performance ratio sucks but a lot of people consider this performance sufficient for their needs while they get benefits like complete silence, low power consumption, great display and nice look.

  • Anyone who thinks the only comparison is raw CPU is missing the point. The biggest reason to prefer Apple over Windows is the OS. If you like working in Windows, great. Stick with it. Those of us who grew up on more professional environments (pick your favorite UNIX flavor) appreciate Mac OS.

  • btw 10.6 catalyst released today ;)

  • These tests can be faked, You can open scene in cinema and change some settings like AA and result can be much different

  • Not a fanboy by any means but I will say this...

    Been using a PC forever, Currently have a WIndows 7 driven laptop that I love (2 thumbs up to W7)

    However, for HD video and photo editing you just can't beat a Mac. The freaking things blaze through it. The OS is also 2nd to none. It has style and substance and just looks freaking bad ass.

  • yeh, but can you finnish the project before you a blue screen or a virus?

  • You're a fucking idiot. It's obvious you want a Mac, but you can't afford it, so you bash it with some baseless claim. This video is the biggest moron bait I have ever seen. FAIL.

  • the pc results may have been superior, but the other one is still a mac. you can't compete with that, no matter what you do. you can't compare a mac with a pc doing benchmarks, the mac is simply superior because it doesn't crash, it doesn't slow, it's apple. there's nothing you can do about it

  • @triloblitz

    icrontic did a study testing the falure rate of varios computers (in the same form factor) and the mac falure rate was 17.4% and the average good quality build computers' (which were all cheaper than the mac) faluire rate was 16%

  • @Chromespan

    well that's impossible, because we all know windows. and you know you can't work with your pc an entire day without having at least 2 or 3 error messages. At least! :P you know it

  • @triloblitz

    i would write the website, but youtube won't let me....if u go to N4G and search there, thats how i found it....

    your right to some extent; i can work on most things without errors, but when it comes to video editing, i use my dad's imac.....

    but i do get errors gaming on the imac, some even while on bootcamp.

  • big deallio , my mac pro pwns your shitty pc

  • Perhaps but I am still purchasing the iMac i7, its just sexy and FAST!

  • windows won like usual

  • Wow, insane score.

    How on earth can that CPU benchmark be so high?

    I thought it was only the CPU that was benchmarked, and I have my Hackintosh running both XP and OSX, getting slightly lower scores than the i7 iMac (which figures, since the iMac runs at 2.8GHz while mine runs at stock speed, 2.66GHz).

    When I overclock my i7 920 to 2.8GHz I get scores that are similar to the iMac.

    I even get better scores than the HD Mobility 4850 with my OLD Nvidia 9600GT.

  • who gives a fuck that macs don't have as much speed? the average person comes know where close to needing that kind of power. macs are easier to keep virus free and still perform everyday tasks well. .

  • i love my barbie toy :D

  • I still like Apple, but you fucking owned that iMac dude.

  • @ViciousDave4Life

    no he didn't, because the pc still runs on windows, and we all know windows sucks :P "fatal error" - when do you get that in mac? NEVER

  • @triloblitz Oh I know. Macs rule. They work right and they don't crash.  They may be more expensive, but they don't crash and they always work.

  • and we all know OS-X sucks :P "fatal error" - when do you get that in Win7? NEVER

  • I suppose this video proves that at least the first 60+ pages of Geekbench scores are 99% Mac computers and maybe that 1% of high-end custom machines that need "upgrading" every 6 months to a year. Oh, wait...

  • lol a bit random to use foreign beggars!

  • Are you familiar with modified Toyota Supras? They're great on dynometers...but have no usable power & are awful street cars. I own both a very powerful pc for gaming, a macbook pro 13.3" and an i7 iMac for pure functionality. It really all boils down to preference, and to each his/her own, but in my opinion macs have more usable power. They remind me of a finely engineered automobile, like BMW. Design, & functionality is centered around the user in both the bimmer and the Mac. Mac user 4ev

  • post a video of your power gaming pc then oh wait you're just a butthurt apple fanboy who can't accept the fact that macs are garbage underpowered overpriced proprietary junk

  • custom will always beat anything.

  • Yeah... just like a tuned up Ford will beat a Lexus just because. Come ON!!

  • Yep pretty much. Your point is?

  • K... i'm missing something here like something called (logic)

    so whats your point again??

  • oh and try not to use false analogies to support your fallacy filled argument lol.

  • Well... how about if you stop using random words to respond to my comment and just respond with something more elaborate; Why would it bee better a tuned up Ford than some random Lexus?

    Let's give a chance to your independent logic to prove logic wrong... Take your time.

  • What do you mean I am using random words? I am talking about your false analogy about comparing computers to cars, idiot.

  • @TearsOfWar1

    no because you have to upgrade it every six months

  • @triloblitz Only if you want to stay up to date with the latest technology. Oh and it takes forever for Apple/Mac to get ahead of the times, and when they do, they are already too far behind again. Oh I've had my experience with Macs, and guess what? They suck. The OS is so closed off it doesn't have half of what Windows has. Face it, Windows is used more than any OS, ya know why? Because it can do a hell of a lot more that's why.

  • How many and what kind of graphics card are in that PC?

  • you doesn't know nothig.. about mac... your pc can be stronger and more power but.. but I'm shure that if I switch on same professional program like protools HD or final cut HD...in that moment you can taje out your pc... becouse you can't do nothing... until you will have windows!... and what I say is not just one thing... but try to visit important studio for movie or audio and chek witch tipe of computer they have!!!!

  • I'm professional Motion Designer and work on windows and Mac. People who say that PCs are not for professionals, have no idea. Apps like 3D Studio Max don't even run on MAC OS. Most 3D Artists are Windows Users. Studios like Lucas Animation or Dreamworks work on HP PC Systems. CG for Avatar was made on PCs. The iMac Core i7 is great compact Consumer Computer and its Design is awesome. But it will never replace a custom built workstation or a Mac Pro.

  • about big studio like lucas or dreamworks... I don't know.. adn about motion designer I don't know... But I'm professiona sound/ light technician and I work in the most tech theatres: like the cruise ship and importat stage...

  • So there for live application (even musician, producers and more) I have sow always mac.. for live.. for example the time code.. is very difficult to find one Control booth with one computer PC with protools and to control one big show in time code.. is very usefull that the dsp used for windows.. same times blocked..

  • @comunicatore : I use a iMac i7 , a Macbook Pro and a i7 PC. For extreme HD & 3D i prefer my custom built PC.For 2D graphics and flash animation I use Mac. In the agency I work we use MAC, Win and Linux Systems and it really depens on what you do. For Audio I know that most people use Macs - the built in sound interfaces of macs are great..Don't condem one system without knowing all the pro's and con's. I need both mac an pc for my work and enjoy worlking on both systems

  • for this... FAST AND FURIOUS, THIS IS IT of michael jackson and more protuction with very hard job with audio, this people have used mac.. and I know this.. becouse I have just sow behind the scenes of the movie for see what they use... in any case.. the coputer and pc... for me are two different machine.. about motion designer I don't know.. but about audio I'm shure (for experience) that the PC non are so good for this job.. but for example I can say that is good for control one laser machine

  • @momotaro84 Nor was it ever intended too.

  • @Dysanfel23 No, but as a matter of fact the imac i7 with 8GB Ram is faster than the basic mac pro. I use an iMac i7 @work and it is a great computer. I was replying to posts of people claiming that macs are more used for creative production which is not true. It depends on which kind of production - in fact a lot of animation studios use mainly PC and of course a overclocked custom built PC with the right hardware will be faster. By the way Macs are also PCs (Personal Computers) .

  • Which Mac took 17s?

  • @ 0:05 before is magnified the rendering score, if you read at the bottom the time is 17s. When the PC score is showed the time is magnified so we can read it, but not for the Mac. Am I wrong?

  • It's 57s

  • 0.57 it says I think :)

  • I don't know much about benchmark, but shouldn't be the most important how many second took to load the image? Because the mac took 17s vs 19s, doesn't this count?

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  • Imac is in relation to unreliable German luxury brand cars

    Windows based PC's are kind of like american cars. Decently reliable but very high performing

    Linux and windows 7 is like the Honda/Toyota of os's. Stable, and more reliable.

  • @EpiDemic117 yeah, linux is stable, but seriously windows 7 yeah right. I have it on my mac, and that thing can't open up more than 3 cs4 apps without crashing. On m mac i can open up all cs4 apps and use it no problem. Windows 7, not half as stable as OS X. I would say that windows 7 is about as stable as a pontiac fiero.

  • @randomtechdude macs run windows like complete shit. i used to run vista on my macbook and it was awfully slow.

    windows 7 is VERY stable

  • windows 7 is PRETTY stable, it gets better after each update.

  • I'm pretty sure thats because vista is awfully slow period, it has nothing to do with the computer. Macs actually run windows great, it has actually received awards from pc world for being one of the fastest computers to run windows... That's mainly because after you install windows on your mac you can install a set of very specific drivers that make every component in the machine work great, are you sure you did that?

  • what's a cs4 app?

  • Barbie computer  LOL

    PC THE BEST!!!!! :)

  • Stupid dumb-ass mac users thinking that PC's monitor resolution is small.

  • I really don't think this a fair comparison. Considering your CPU is at 3.8 while his is at 2.8. Underclock it to 2.8 then see the score.

  • Yes it wasn't fair but the next vid will be :D

  • @iPhenom3G i know the numbers arnt even, but it is somewhat fair, when you build a pc, you have the FEATURE to overclock it. macs you dont. so yea.

  • What the fuuucckkk, 44k? That's insane bro. I seriously need to upgrade from this C2D. That's ballin'.

  • 3.8? Back that sucker down to 2.0Ghz. lol I'll bet it still knocks out a high score.

  • He did another video with 2 cores, in a virtual machine, and still beat Emeeks score.

  • its almost 3 times your score, why are you complaining that it is overclocked? poor imac got brutally raped.

  • @AppleSoldierIts

    Its overclocked at 3.8 because i want to get the most out of my machine, you cant!!. Thats why it takes you over one minute to render on cinbench which only takes me 19 seconds.

    Big difference.

  • A %30 overclock to get a score that's over %200+ percent higher than the imac. I'll go with the overclock thank you very much.

  • @oOADROo I don't know I've had my share of PC's and all of my macs have outlived any of my pc's. Not to spread the whole pc vs mac bull shit. Pro choice is all I can say, buy whatever WORKS for YOU. But please no need to push or tarnish OTHEr users.

    Mac users for the most part aren't buying for SHEER POWER and speed. A combination of factors, design and operating system being a MAJOR player in that field.

  • @AppleSoldier

    His score was 3 times yours dude. He could beat it at half that.

  • @AppleSoldier .... watch the dual core video. by the way, HING DANG DURR. IMMA SUTHNU

  • @AppleSoldier why dont you just OC your imac... o wait...

    hahahahaha

  • @AppleSoldier We are talking about the price. mac sucks.

  • @AppleSoldier You can't overclock even if you wanted to, that and compare to what you're paying plus the fact that a PC machine owned the mac OS in it's own turf, what's reason to ever get a mac at all? 

  • i love your video man

  • Song?

  • Foreign Beggars - One Take

  • thanks

  • also, did it come with a 27" IPS flat panel display? LOLOLOL

  • @AppleSoldier

    No mine has a 30'

  • @zoulkyud It's 30", not 30' but whatever

  • @Tha2ndWimp

    its the same key, maybe I accidentally did not hit shift. Maybe it was a typo. :-p

  • d for divert

  • Why because you don't understand. Quit being a douche bag to everyone.

  • ADR beat your score with 2 cores

    LOL owned. now enjoy your horseshit of a machine

  • I look at macs as little toys. look at Erics barbie computer its nowhere near as powerful as a real computer. Macs are just stupid toys for stupid people

  • lol, god i smell jealousy and spite, lol. are you bitter little girl? lol.

  • @Applesoldier

    Nah your jealous that ooadroo only had to pay a fraction of the price of your imac it rapes your score in cinebench.

  • @Applesoldier

    Im very jealous of your Barbie computer I want one so badly XD

  • How is it that my core i7 was able to kill of your Barbie machine and also the 16 core Mac Pro?

    Like i said Macs are just toys for little kiddies :D

  • @oOADROo You seriously beat a 16 core Mac Pro?

  • no businesses use pc's because they are cheap and disposable, macs are more for pros. pc's are geared to kids and women.

  • You exposed macward66 ... you ignore the facts.

    "no businesses use pc's because they are cheap and disposable"

    this is an oxymoron - you moron

  • you keep forgetting you are dealing with custom builders on YT, not the general public

  • I'm gonna bitchslap your face to think no businesses uses PC. I can name any businesses that uses pc mactard66, and I can shut you up in just a second.

  • No businesses use PCs? What the fuck are thousands of businesses using than if not PCs?

  • should be a comma after no, I figured I would have to explain it to the special ed class.

  • Have a look in the mirror to see the definition of special ed material.

  • The only person who is special ed is you. When you type it one way, it means something, when you type it another way, it means something completely different. If I was to make a minor mistake like that, you would have called me out to.

    That weak-ass rebuttal "i figured i'd have to explain to the special ed class, nyuk!" crap wont work with me.

  • @macward66 PC's are geared towards woman?

    hahahahaha

  • Wow

  • Since you mentioned toys it would be interesting to see pkerrys reaction to this video :O

    Not exactly sure how that was done either 0_o

  • pkerrys needs 32 cores to beat this.

  • mate.. I have a mac pro not an imac.

    my mum has an imac, but I would never buy an imac for myself because simple fact is mac pros are better than an imac. with with an i7 in them

  • BTW what you think about this score?

  • good score, not overclocked then?

    I think you beat Zoul i7 PC as well, with that.

  • its clo9cked @ 3.8 :D

  • Zoul's score is pretty good, beats yours, but ADR's is better then most

  • Mac Pro is great as a workstation, but lacks the fundamental theories of running a computer, with mutiltasking.

  • @ macward66

    My PC can run for years. It can not sweat. It's a computer.

    My PC shits on your computers chest and says it's dinner, and your computer eats it, cause it can only copy.

    Do you understand my comments now, or are you going to ignore the facts , and say you "owned me"? I would like to see one video that you prove me wrong.

    You want to be a dick, I threat you like a dick. You almost pussy-out(ed) and left youtube, remember ... I can help you make that option easier. Your choice.

  • you didnt read my comment, I said full out. your pc would burn up

  • @macward66, you are such a noob.

    "I said full out" He means having the CPU @ 100% duty cycle. (macward just google duty cycle, so you will know what I mean)

    You ran your Mac pro at 100% duty cycle for a month? LOL , you hardly use your computer at all. You don't even video edit. Let alone take full advantage of your hardware.

  • you have no idea what i do, I could be a professional porn video editor :D

  • I thought you were a photographer? Oh wait, that's right, that's what you said to AdobePC. You might as well be a bullshitter, you know the guy who punches a cow in the stomach to get video ideas.

  • Your a disgrace, BTW Macs are geared towards kids and children.

  • yeah your right, the mac pro, final cut pro, aperture etc. is geared to teens lmao

  • @macward66

    All not the common or a standard. They come wit life, and the imac is more popular than the mac pro.

  • @macward66

    Well after seeing a few video's posted from your buddy Emeek, certainly seems like teens included are using them. Although it's in a rich preppy school set in another universe, away from reality.

  • Sounds like a pretty big opinion you got there.

  • multi-pro speed his is 3.67% your is 4.24%, Emeeks iMac can't hyper-thread for shit awesome video , flogged piss out of him, 44,000 that's gotta be the highest score I have seen, if you lay down your 64-bit scores you will PWN him some more.

  • WTF, do you have like over 9000 chinese in your computer doing calculations?!

  • Nice score! ;)

  • All thanks to you m8  :D

  • you blew all my pc's combined and emeeks mac for breakfast.

  • WTF ... you blew away anything I have ever seen

  • You beat Eric just because of your taste in music.

  • awesome vid mate

    100% ★★★★★

  • Nice cinebench. Your processor is really fast.

  • mine takes well over 2 minutes, being an old amd athlon xp :P

  • Nice :)

  • YW ;0)

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