you know if youd shift in your power bAND itd have better times/acc.. i have an 04 ls sport coupe 5 speed and i raced a guy but didnt even know about the power band stuff then raced him again and smoked him.. the power band on cavys are from 4rpm to 5600rpm
@spikekilla117 lol I'm 25 and a father of 2. I sold my 600hp 2002 Mustang GT so I could get a family hauler. Now I am building a 97 Sunfire GT, because its all I can afford and I love to build cars no matter what they are because REAL car guys like cars not just engine size.
@18Caliber thats right! build it because you like building! -no sarcasm i am in the same boat, except i have one kid and i will be building an ecotec. i had a bad experience with the quad 4
@illni11 You are a dumbass. If you put the same cavalier engine in a lighter car, especially a Honda, he will beat you. Hondas are so much lighter. I don't like Honda AT ALL but I'm stating the obvious. Why do you think they put ls1s in civics? Because they will get better track times than if it were in the camaro. For example, if a girl that weighs 300 pounds races a girl that weighs 100 in a half mile, assuming they both have the sane stamina (which is unlikely, lol) who is going to win? I'm
@spikekilla117 I used to own a 97 DSM. Had to be one of the most unreliable cars I've ever owned. But yes it was much faster. And I considered purchasing a 240 but RWD in New England didn't sound like a great idea. But when you say Hondas suck, to what are you referring? Performance? If anything, I will admit, Hondas stock performance is not that great. But in every other aspect, the stock Handling and Reliability is far better than any GM products and the majority of it's competition.
@TheVidRater007 I don't think so, GM's ability to build cars that handle is if modified from factory has been mentioned for years. Ex: The 2005 Chevy Cobalt models up too the 2010 model all handled great.
Here is another story, my friend, may he rest in peace used to drive an M3 and I'd race him around town in my 2004 Cavalier Sport Sedan with just a K&N drop in filter and he'd always give me props on how nice I handled traffic and beat him. You can't fool a "Cobalt" Owner...LMBO!
how come everyone always googles HP/TQ numbers and goes 'omg look at how much faster this car is than that car'. You people do realize higher HP doesnt always mean faster, right? There is A LOT more that comes into play than higher numbers.
each car against another model/manufacturer is going to have tons of variables that make it faster or slower. driver is a BIG difference and can make up for a loss of power.
Google is ur friend, but dont believe everything you 'see'
Civics will take the cavalier off the line with an lsd tranny the problem is most ricers now adays put that 1500$ into body kits instead of power band
@B16power69 And why do you say that? When have you seen a ricer with 604 ft lbs torque, stock, or 638hp? When do you see a 4 banger with the amazing growl and roar combo you get out of a Chevy 350 or 454 or Hemi 440? When, do you see any fast car with 1 million miles on it and 400+ hp, you get it with a V8, not to mention, GM makes 430hp LS series v8s that get 29mpg. Try that with a stock civic, that has 115 hp and 102 ft labs torque!
@Motorfordtoyota Its about power to weight between v8s and four cylinders. as my opinion i dislike v8's cuz of their efficiency a four banger gets great gas mileage costs less will out break and out handle almost every v8 the only thing you guys have is high amounts of power and tourque. Im a circuit driver myself I love Mosport and high speed turns not 1/4 mile so V8s are litterally worthless to me.
@downhillrac3r No i wasn't serious i just like to end conversations where i know the guy is an idiot i genuinely love the four bangers k20 and b16's are such all around great motors even to this day no to mention a b18 which if turboed is like the deadliest car on the road, but thats just me im a honda fan.
@B16power69 ohh haha okay. yeah i agree, hondas and what not can be decent if there modified right but what i hate seeing on the road is those idiots with a stupid fart can on the back and the ugliest body kit u can possibly find, driving around like there in fast and the furious u know lol fuckin ridiculous
@kenneth101487 then you live in the middle of no were, i raced many Honda's and i always take shity cavi's off the line! why because they cant launch at 6000rpm and shift at 9000rpm thats were honda wins everytime it makes up for the torque loss by revving so high! no cavi has ever beat my stock b16crx not even at the drag strip. silly chevy lol
@luisgamez8705 LOL, I agree. I had to deal with an Accord for 4 years, and driven the new Civic and a few friend's older Civics. All of them need to rev up to 8k and pop the clutch to give the illusion of fast with its noise and the snap from letting the clutch grab 8000 revolutions per minute. That is great if you plan for a race for an edge off the line. But when you are in traffic and need the passing power, its not there.
@DemonicHockey17 Idk if you read any of the thread at all or just decided to troll but the argument was about Honda's and Chevy's and I decided to hate on Honda's cus I like Chevy's
@luisgamez8705 well excuse me sir, i'll see u on the highway on your impact wrench faggit.. wot a stupid comment.. DERRR my torqure wrench has more TORQUE then derpity derp derp.. WELL GOOD FOR U ASSHOLE
no headers openin', no vtec. respect gm sweden you bitch. The ecotec is ftw. Just imagine: it was made to kill the hhv from the 2.2ohv found in 2002 2.2 below 2002
yeah dude, if u put both of em stock, cavy is faster, and torque is acceleration, and horsepower is how fast ur car can go up to, many people do not know the difference :p
you know its funny honda boys think they own the roads but really all they got is the highway, there is not 1 civic i know, that can take a cavi off the line, NO TORQUE. A new CIVIC SI 197HP-139TQ, now a 03 CAVALIER 145HP-155TQ
@Interceptor38 Comparing stock to stock is a much easier way to gauge which car is quicker. People can make mistakes when modifying their car and actually make them even slower. Too big of an exhaust, too much porting, big TB, opening up the intake runners and so on.
@Interceptor38 I owned an Accord and drove a few Civics, slow and unresponsive. The Cavalier 2.4 and 2.2 Ecotec are perfect for daily driving. I get response at any RPM and don't have to hit 9k RPMs to keep up with an Aerostar
@2muchreality4u All the times on the net support this statement. Plus the Si does not count unless you want to compare the Cobalt's top models vs it and they both in SC or TC versions beat the Si. The 140hp and 128lbs torque version is about 1.5 seconds slower 0-60. I have scrolled through the Civic's base model 0-60 times and they are all 9.5-10 second 0-60s whereas the Cavalier/ Sunfire is 8.4 and the Cobalt is 8 seconds.
@Interceptor38 Rev limiter and governer is way different. Governers shut the car off after a certain speed to get you back down to the speed its set for. Rev limiter is what keeps the car from going past a certain RPM to protect the motor.
@kenneth101487 bhahahahaha are you fuking joking?? i have a b18b1 nonvtec in my 1993 civic all i have is cold air intake and over sized exsuast and i can walk away from fuking ecotecs all day man what a load of shit bahahahahah
@kenneth101487 It so funny, my sis has an 02 civic with 115hp and like 100 ft lb torque, put the 4 ppl she has to cary every weekday home from school, a fucking geo metro 3 banger could overtake her! Its really funny. I tiold her to buy the Camaro, but she didnt want an "unreliable piece of shit" as she called the 3.8 camaro. But then she bought the overpriced Civic, and it has had more problems, squeaks and rattles than my 88 toyota 4runner! Its just so funny!
There's no denying that there are exceptions to the rule; especially when you have a 2200 lb curb-weight.
Then consider the fact that a lot of these guys that rape are running gutted interiors.
I'm by no means saying Honda's are bad or that you can only win a race with torque. If you could fab up something to shoe-horn a torquey 6 or 8 that hatch would walk everything! Although financially, that's not really smart when you have much easier swaps to do.
he probably did, only because he has no idea what he's talking about, mustangmikeca just prowls videos of cobalts and trashes them supporting his asian car when he has an american car in his name, its pretty obvious he's menatally unstable
lets find watch every cavalier vid we can find, and post a negative comment, whats the point of having an expensive bag of rice if you have no life? shouldnt you be out there driving it, you kno scene its so fast.......hahha slow? stupid ass hondas
buddy I seen fuckin nissans beat vipers lol size and motor mean nothing and a viper is a v 10 Im not to impressed when asian cars are not only faster but far more superior even though a Viper is a nasty machine
your engine light was on lol dude the 2.2 is junk the 2.4 twin cam is way quicker
Mikeamania79 2 weeks ago
you know if youd shift in your power bAND itd have better times/acc.. i have an 04 ls sport coupe 5 speed and i raced a guy but didnt even know about the power band stuff then raced him again and smoked him.. the power band on cavys are from 4rpm to 5600rpm
madison1828 3 weeks ago
Your check engine light is on.
14575019 1 month ago
Way to run it that hard while your check engine light is on, that will ensure you car will last forever!
Drewrob26 1 month ago
@spikekilla117 lol I'm 25 and a father of 2. I sold my 600hp 2002 Mustang GT so I could get a family hauler. Now I am building a 97 Sunfire GT, because its all I can afford and I love to build cars no matter what they are because REAL car guys like cars not just engine size.
18Caliber 2 months ago 2
@18Caliber thats right! build it because you like building! -no sarcasm i am in the same boat, except i have one kid and i will be building an ecotec. i had a bad experience with the quad 4
96turboSE 1 month ago
@96turboSE thanks! The Ecotec was my original plan and I will prob swap to that when the LD9 goes. Ecotecs can make serious power!
18Caliber 1 month ago
@TheVidRater007 oh right, get rear wheel drive!
swassbruh 5 months ago
KM are for sissies MPH all day son :D
Proud2Comment 5 months ago
@Proud2Comment same shit different pile
swassbruh 5 months ago
@illni11 You are a dumbass. If you put the same cavalier engine in a lighter car, especially a Honda, he will beat you. Hondas are so much lighter. I don't like Honda AT ALL but I'm stating the obvious. Why do you think they put ls1s in civics? Because they will get better track times than if it were in the camaro. For example, if a girl that weighs 300 pounds races a girl that weighs 100 in a half mile, assuming they both have the sane stamina (which is unlikely, lol) who is going to win? I'm
iiMooKeY 6 months ago
@iiMooKeY Or put it in a Saturn sl2 (2400 lbs) Exellent power to weight ratio..
junechris 6 months ago
@spikekilla117 I used to own a 97 DSM. Had to be one of the most unreliable cars I've ever owned. But yes it was much faster. And I considered purchasing a 240 but RWD in New England didn't sound like a great idea. But when you say Hondas suck, to what are you referring? Performance? If anything, I will admit, Hondas stock performance is not that great. But in every other aspect, the stock Handling and Reliability is far better than any GM products and the majority of it's competition.
TheVidRater007 10 months ago
@TheVidRater007 I don't think so, GM's ability to build cars that handle is if modified from factory has been mentioned for years. Ex: The 2005 Chevy Cobalt models up too the 2010 model all handled great.
Here is another story, my friend, may he rest in peace used to drive an M3 and I'd race him around town in my 2004 Cavalier Sport Sedan with just a K&N drop in filter and he'd always give me props on how nice I handled traffic and beat him. You can't fool a "Cobalt" Owner...LMBO!
LEXXONE74 7 months ago
my friend got this engine in his 02 alero..its got some nice kick
19acouto92 11 months ago
how come everyone always googles HP/TQ numbers and goes 'omg look at how much faster this car is than that car'. You people do realize higher HP doesnt always mean faster, right? There is A LOT more that comes into play than higher numbers.
each car against another model/manufacturer is going to have tons of variables that make it faster or slower. driver is a BIG difference and can make up for a loss of power.
Google is ur friend, but dont believe everything you 'see'
dham99 1 year ago
keep in mind, this is kph, not mph...got a CEL on there buddy...get it fixed yet?
and what is a 'type Z'?
dham99 1 year ago
@dham99 the Z type is the Canadian Z24
18Caliber 2 months ago
i have a 2004 saturn ion with the 2.2 and i took the govener out and put some mods on and it takes all the civs and cavaliers around
koher67 1 year ago
@koher67 how did you do that you know saturn the same engine same car but dont mind that how did you remove the gover
ggknight18 1 year ago
gosh i wonder why the cel is on? maybe because a stock cavalier isn't made to do 6500 rpm?
Ps3Black0ps 1 year ago
@Ps3Black0ps stock redline IS 6500 rpm
swtcav99 11 months ago
how do u bypass the governor
joeyjord4life 1 year ago
@joeyjord4life .....alls it is is a chip..u can remove it all u have to do it locate it..idk where its at tho
Ps3Black0ps 1 year ago
Dude, your check engine light is on.
soloist48 1 year ago
@spikekilla117 Yeah, its kinda sad, But, when Im in my 20s, im gonna have a Toyota Tundra 5.7 supercharged. 504hp, that thing is hella fast! Asome!
Motorfordtoyota 1 year ago
Civics will take the cavalier off the line with an lsd tranny the problem is most ricers now adays put that 1500$ into body kits instead of power band
B16power69 1 year ago
4 bangers and fart cans suck
jguth52 1 year ago 4
@jguth52 V8's suck
B16power69 1 year ago
@B16power69 And why do you say that? When have you seen a ricer with 604 ft lbs torque, stock, or 638hp? When do you see a 4 banger with the amazing growl and roar combo you get out of a Chevy 350 or 454 or Hemi 440? When, do you see any fast car with 1 million miles on it and 400+ hp, you get it with a V8, not to mention, GM makes 430hp LS series v8s that get 29mpg. Try that with a stock civic, that has 115 hp and 102 ft labs torque!
Motorfordtoyota 1 year ago
@Motorfordtoyota Its about power to weight between v8s and four cylinders. as my opinion i dislike v8's cuz of their efficiency a four banger gets great gas mileage costs less will out break and out handle almost every v8 the only thing you guys have is high amounts of power and tourque. Im a circuit driver myself I love Mosport and high speed turns not 1/4 mile so V8s are litterally worthless to me.
B16power69 1 year ago
@B16power69 Ok yes, I can see your argument now! Thanks for clarifying. Me personally, v6s are the best. Light weight, and powerful, a good combo!
Motorfordtoyota 1 year ago
@Motorfordtoyota I totally agree with you on that
B16power69 1 year ago
@B16power69 i hope ur not serious..
downhillrac3r 1 year ago
@downhillrac3r No i wasn't serious i just like to end conversations where i know the guy is an idiot i genuinely love the four bangers k20 and b16's are such all around great motors even to this day no to mention a b18 which if turboed is like the deadliest car on the road, but thats just me im a honda fan.
B16power69 1 year ago
@B16power69 ohh haha okay. yeah i agree, hondas and what not can be decent if there modified right but what i hate seeing on the road is those idiots with a stupid fart can on the back and the ugliest body kit u can possibly find, driving around like there in fast and the furious u know lol fuckin ridiculous
downhillrac3r 1 year ago
@downhillrac3r Exactly man people like that give honda drivers a bad name.
B16power69 1 year ago
@kenneth101487 then you live in the middle of no were, i raced many Honda's and i always take shity cavi's off the line! why because they cant launch at 6000rpm and shift at 9000rpm thats were honda wins everytime it makes up for the torque loss by revving so high! no cavi has ever beat my stock b16crx not even at the drag strip. silly chevy lol
xeg6x 1 year ago
mommy's car eh boys lol
doogims12345 1 year ago
my impact wrench has more torque than most hondas
luisgamez8705 1 year ago 45
@luisgamez8705 LOL, I agree. I had to deal with an Accord for 4 years, and driven the new Civic and a few friend's older Civics. All of them need to rev up to 8k and pop the clutch to give the illusion of fast with its noise and the snap from letting the clutch grab 8000 revolutions per minute. That is great if you plan for a race for an edge off the line. But when you are in traffic and need the passing power, its not there.
2muchreality4u 1 year ago
@luisgamez8705 totally! but, GM cars now dont have ANY torque cept their Vortec truck motors. Sucks!
Motorfordtoyota 1 year ago
@luisgamez8705 wow so mny plp hate honda . i guessing u drive a shitty american sedan .
DragonInfraXtremeRGT 10 months ago
@DragonInfraXtremeRGT
actualy i drive a bmw but you kno bmws dont have much low end torque either
luisgamez8705 10 months ago
@luisgamez8705 my hand tighten torque wrench has more power than a honda
ROBBY639 5 months ago 2
@luisgamez8705 jokes on you shit head, its a chevy, go troll somewhere else
DemonicHockey17 3 weeks ago
@DemonicHockey17 Idk if you read any of the thread at all or just decided to troll but the argument was about Honda's and Chevy's and I decided to hate on Honda's cus I like Chevy's
luisgamez8705 3 weeks ago
@luisgamez8705 well excuse me sir, i'll see u on the highway on your impact wrench faggit.. wot a stupid comment.. DERRR my torqure wrench has more TORQUE then derpity derp derp.. WELL GOOD FOR U ASSHOLE
kwazhimself 2 weeks ago
no headers openin', no vtec. respect gm sweden you bitch. The ecotec is ftw. Just imagine: it was made to kill the hhv from the 2.2ohv found in 2002 2.2 below 2002
kobimzr 1 year ago
what up grades you got? my redlines at 6k
ls0722 1 year ago
This has been flagged as spam show
I have a '03 Sunfire with a 2.2l ecotec. How do ya by-pass the governor? Thanks.
Mach1Man583 2 years ago
ur check engine light is on....... nice
joseph101789 2 years ago
I wonder why XD
TJC450 1 year ago
OMG, it's like I wondered into a grade school.
VitaminE2002 2 years ago
Fun stuff check out my built Ohv cavalier its a bit faster
Ricozero 2 years ago
gee i wonder why the check engine light is on
EdgeCrash20 2 years ago
veryy impressive! whered you get the custom speedometer? ive been lookin for one
BLACKMAGiC3412 2 years ago
Check Engine light. lol
wwjoshdew 2 years ago
yeah dude, if u put both of em stock, cavy is faster, and torque is acceleration, and horsepower is how fast ur car can go up to, many people do not know the difference :p
btw cavies with ecotecs are really nice :)
corvette114 2 years ago
If you have more low end torque then you can push bigger gears also meaning a higher top speed.
alterbr33d 2 years ago
you know its funny honda boys think they own the roads but really all they got is the highway, there is not 1 civic i know, that can take a cavi off the line, NO TORQUE. A new CIVIC SI 197HP-139TQ, now a 03 CAVALIER 145HP-155TQ
kenneth101487 2 years ago 8
Are u serious a modified honda's way faster lol I have a Cavalier stock by the way ok its fast but its not a powerhouse and you might be right
But top end the Civics gona get you in the end
thanks to the shitty governors or as u like to call it rev limiter abs and track are for woosses
Interceptor38 2 years ago
ya that is y u by-pass the governor i have a eco-tec that will do over 200KM
kenneth101487 2 years ago 2
how do you by-pass the governor??
elmermt 2 years ago
@kenneth101487 how do u bypass that pos?
Benchpress33 1 year ago
@kenneth101487 i have 3 that will SS HHR Turbo my 03 cavalier stock and a 2007 cobalt LT
07blkCobalt 8 months ago
governs can be removed =D
StaticAddict21 2 years ago
@Interceptor38 Comparing stock to stock is a much easier way to gauge which car is quicker. People can make mistakes when modifying their car and actually make them even slower. Too big of an exhaust, too much porting, big TB, opening up the intake runners and so on.
Mike85220 1 year ago
@Interceptor38 I owned an Accord and drove a few Civics, slow and unresponsive. The Cavalier 2.4 and 2.2 Ecotec are perfect for daily driving. I get response at any RPM and don't have to hit 9k RPMs to keep up with an Aerostar
Mike85220 1 year ago 2
@Interceptor38 I have never lost to a stock Civic vs my 2.2 Cobalt nor my wife's 2.2 Sunfire. Ever... That includes the brand new 140hp model.
2muchreality4u 1 year ago
@2muchreality4u All the times on the net support this statement. Plus the Si does not count unless you want to compare the Cobalt's top models vs it and they both in SC or TC versions beat the Si. The 140hp and 128lbs torque version is about 1.5 seconds slower 0-60. I have scrolled through the Civic's base model 0-60 times and they are all 9.5-10 second 0-60s whereas the Cavalier/ Sunfire is 8.4 and the Cobalt is 8 seconds.
2muchreality4u 1 year ago
@Interceptor38 bahahahahahahahahahahajajajajajajhajajaroflhahahalolrolflmmao!!!! you rice heads are dumb...
crazy4baseball47 1 year ago
@Interceptor38 Rev limiter and governer is way different. Governers shut the car off after a certain speed to get you back down to the speed its set for. Rev limiter is what keeps the car from going past a certain RPM to protect the motor.
bradlyw420 1 year ago
@Interceptor38
did you just say a stock cavalier is fast ? lol
rkss27 1 year ago
@Interceptor38 thats your responce a modifiedcar is faster... your a tool!
richardjburke 1 year ago
@Interceptor38 dumbass off course a modified car will beat a stock one. you but the same shit in a honda as a cavy and the foreign shit loses
illni11 9 months ago
@Interceptor38 Both cars are total shit, I see no difference. They are both cheap teenage cars
71johnf 7 months ago
@kenneth101487 I agree. For daily driving, that stinks. Having to red line it to pass someone is sad.
Mike85220 1 year ago
@kenneth101487 bhahahahaha are you fuking joking?? i have a b18b1 nonvtec in my 1993 civic all i have is cold air intake and over sized exsuast and i can walk away from fuking ecotecs all day man what a load of shit bahahahahah
bliane386 1 year ago
@kenneth101487 It so funny, my sis has an 02 civic with 115hp and like 100 ft lb torque, put the 4 ppl she has to cary every weekday home from school, a fucking geo metro 3 banger could overtake her! Its really funny. I tiold her to buy the Camaro, but she didnt want an "unreliable piece of shit" as she called the 3.8 camaro. But then she bought the overpriced Civic, and it has had more problems, squeaks and rattles than my 88 toyota 4runner! Its just so funny!
Motorfordtoyota 1 year ago
@kenneth101487 97 to 01 prelude - 195hp 160tq. looks like it beat the cavvy. Sorry to burst your bubble!
JobeMinacum 1 year ago
@kenneth101487 what about an 00 prelude? Hmm? 197hp 160tq.
JobeMinacum 1 year ago
@kenneth101487 Torque tows trailers, horsepower wins races.
1993hondaaccord 8 months ago
@1993hondaaccord
The saying is actually horsepower sells cars, torque wins races
SB34Fireball 8 months ago
@SB34Fireball I know I made a change to the saying from my observations. I have seen enough little b16s hatches that rape to say the original saying.
1993hondaaccord 8 months ago
@1993hondaaccord
There's no denying that there are exceptions to the rule; especially when you have a 2200 lb curb-weight.
Then consider the fact that a lot of these guys that rape are running gutted interiors.
I'm by no means saying Honda's are bad or that you can only win a race with torque. If you could fab up something to shoe-horn a torquey 6 or 8 that hatch would walk everything! Although financially, that's not really smart when you have much easier swaps to do.
SB34Fireball 8 months ago
@kenneth101487 dude a cavalier is a peice of shit and will sstill lose sorry im not a honda fanboy either
wowshiqptar 7 months ago
philips, u fuckin moron, thats kmh not mph, stupid
jp198780 2 years ago
AHAAHAHA omg nice
Darthgeese 2 years ago
dude i have a cavi you were only doing 60 you changed ur background numbers for your mph
tphillips2009 2 years ago
hes dumb ass hell fuck his 2008 civic si its slow as hell
ecotechracing 3 years ago
good run
RT360ci 3 years ago
My 2008 Civic Si would beat your pussy ass car
mustangmikeca 3 years ago
did that make u feel good writing that ???
trendkill777 3 years ago
he probably did, only because he has no idea what he's talking about, mustangmikeca just prowls videos of cobalts and trashes them supporting his asian car when he has an american car in his name, its pretty obvious he's menatally unstable
nitrousxxxcam 3 years ago
lol
Interceptor38 2 years ago
wow i have a good idea
lets find watch every cavalier vid we can find, and post a negative comment, whats the point of having an expensive bag of rice if you have no life? shouldnt you be out there driving it, you kno scene its so fast.......hahha slow? stupid ass hondas
danjones2009 2 years ago
learn some grammar
mustangmikeca 2 years ago
buddy I seen fuckin nissans beat vipers lol size and motor mean nothing and a viper is a v 10 Im not to impressed when asian cars are not only faster but far more superior even though a Viper is a nasty machine
Interceptor38 2 years ago
with your little 2,2 or something like that lol bi deal by what a 1/2 a second lol
Interceptor38 2 years ago