@tehfailmyn yes, it tells us that the rest of the world are followers, and that the US is a leader and doesn't do things just because everyone else is doing it.
there is also the deci of the metric system but no one really uses it. decilitre=0.1liter, decimetre etc. then there is the deca and the hecto which are also rarely used. decameter=10 metre and hectometre= 100 metre. although in the netherlands we do use the hectare which derives from hectoare which is 100x100 metre. mainly used by farmers to indicate how much land they own or want to bargain with.
In the United States, the metric system is used in science and engineering, and also by the military. I think the general population doesn't want to change because we are too lazy to learn something new, or because we don't want to let go of something that we are so used to.
@oXbOxr00X Its because of standardization that both the military and NASA use Metric. We tried to switch to Metric in the 70's but it did not really work, so now we use both US system and Metric.
As Americans we usually use our crappy non-based 10 system. However, in all science classes, the metric system is used. So technically we learn both systems...
We should just switch over, the metric system is much more practical.
The superiority of Standard measure is easily demonstrated in geometry in architecture and building. The system based on 12 work much better with the Pythagorean Theorem.
I disagree. I like the imperial system better than the metric system (I know how to use both and convert them). I just prefer it and I'll almost always use it, with a few exceptions, because I don't like quarts.
they changed it, because the distance can change. the speed of light doesnt change. the problem occured as far as I know, when they checked wether a meter is a meter and found out, that it is about 0.000001m less or more. So it wasnt scientifically correct anymore.
For the most part the younger generations in America understand the metric system better then the imperial system now. My schools in Arizona have basically ignored the imperial system all together. The metric system is far better and hopefully the US will fully convert in a short while.
@TheStargatefan1000 why are europeans trying to invade and destroy american culture? It's not about what's easier, it's about tradition and culture. what is easier, going to mcdonalds or going to a traditional german restaurant??
@lostalex77 Well of course it is easier to go to Mc but is it healthier? The europeans are not invading the american culture. This is a discussion about wich system is better. Not wich shall be used in america
@TheStargatefan1000 well obviously the American system is better, America is the most successful country in the history of the world, if you have a better system, why arn't you the most power and prosperous country in the world?
Clash the two systems randomly and you get the UK. In various generations I have found people who might know their weight in kilograms but not stone while knowing their height in feet and inches but not centimetres. I know people who work in metres and miles but can't visualise yards or kilometres. A good amount of people know both.
Beer comes in pints but cans/bottles have militres on the side. Butchers sell meat in pounds and ounces, Pic'n'mix is weighed in grams.
Distances are easy to calculate that´s the reason the french invented it. 1000 NanoMeter = 1 MilliMeter 1000 Millimeter = 1 Meter 1000 Meter = 1 KiloMeter There is some extra rule because this sizes are most used: 10 MilliMeter = 1 CentiMeter; 10 CentiMeter = 1 DeziMeter; 10 DeziMeter= 1 Meter Wheight also. 1000 NanoGramm = 1 MilliGramm 1000 MilliGramm = 1 Gramm 1000 Gramm = 1 KiloGramm 1000 Kilogramm = 1 Tonne ... It is every where the same factor to multiply.
The worst thing about the us system is that it's not base 10. It would be alright if we just used some arbitrary unit of measurement that differed from the metric system, but when you consider nonuniform steps in the system, the math just gets ridiculously ugly. 12 inches to a foot, 5280 feet to a mile; It's just retarded. Thomas Jefferson actually proposed in 1790 to have the system overhauled to conform to the decimal system (10 inches to a foot), but the measure was sadly not passed.
Hey guys, i really really like your show, but you soooo often admit not knowing something that would take about 2 minutes of online research. but keep on anyway, it's fun watching :)
Yeah I'm sure someone has said this, but the new definition of the meter is so that we can define the speed of light. Based on our definition of the meter, light travels in free space at 2.99E8 meters/second (the second big number they talked about).
Yeah, the US/Imperial system is weird. For just about all science we use the metric system, and we learn the metric system in school. I'm a science student, the idea of doing science with feet and gallons is laughable. But in daily life we use the US/Imperial system, and so our references for everyday things are all in the US/Imperial system. If someone says to me "It's 84 km away" I have to convert to miles in my head to really understand. Same with weight. Also same with Fahrenheit to Celsius.
*face palm. the imperial system does blow. quarts to pints to cups to ounces all of that shit is confusing and in uneven denominations. and its true, where the hell did we get "lb" to represent pound?
The US system of measurement is terrible - we are the only ones in the world (except Libya) that still uses it. We need to convert but we're lazy about it, sadly.
Even in America, when doing anything with science or math we use the metric system. For example, I am a microbiology student, and when I'm doing experiments we use microliters, etc. We do that because it makes all of our calculations easier, and we can compare our data with collaborators around the world.
@lengthyounarther Really interesting to see how you thing about germany. btw i also find some interesting site about international size of penis: fuzoku,sh/teaches/0010/index,html so everything you said is wrong
I wish they would at least teach us both systems here. It would make sense.
Also when you two kept saying "science" .. I was half expecting you to start singing weird science from the movie!
Oh speaking of... what's the difference between movies there and here? I know Germany produces some, but I don't find them like I do here. I've only seen a few animations, and so on. I would like to hear your take on that! :)
Being Australian, I'm sort of familiar with both systems, and can swap back and forth in my head. The ones I have trouble with are fluid ounces, and Fahrenheit - I can never remember if - say - 65F is time to take a jacket or whatever.
You guys really need to find a British person to sit in the middle for these videos. In almost all ways Britain is halfway between Germany and the USA, especially this one where we arbitrarily switch between metric and imperial for different things.
The metric system is just great. I mean, it's used everywhere in the world and it is simple to understand. Only those crazy Americans and most of that British people still use their unbelievable complicate system..
@xxsuperchris Actually the United States, the UK, Canada, Australia, the Republic of Ireland, India, Malaysia, Hong Kong, Antigua and Barbuda, Belize, Burma, Ecuador, Grenada, Guyana, and Sierra Leone all use the Imperial system in one way or another. It's not just us "crazy Americans".
Der Meter wurde neu definiert, damit man ihn im ganzen Universum relativ leicht nachmessen kann und nicht jedesmal nach paris Fahren muss. Die lange Zahl in der Definition ist die Lichtgeschwindigkeit.
They Redefinid the meter, so u can control a meter in the hole universe and not only if you are in paris. By the way, the long number in the definiton is the speed of light.
What I have found really interesting since moving to Germany, is the differences in cooking measurements. American recipes call for things such as "one cup" of sugar, or flour, or even of milk or other liquid. Here in Germany, liquids in recipes are measured by volume, same as with the cup in America, but non liquids are measured by weight. Our measuring cup does have markings on it showing the volume of for example 500 grams of sugar or flour etc so weighing is not always necessary.
It's hilarious how people make such a big deal about this. It's an important part of anti-Americanism in which something about the US just ENRAGES people from other countries even though it doesn't affect them at all. Talk about butthurt and obsessed.
Newsflash. The US uses BOTH systems. The average American can use both systems and convert them pretty easily. I know that there are is 1km in .6 miles. I know that there is about 25 mm in an inch etc... I use BOTH in school and work.
I agree with you on this issue, but most of anti-Americanism actually is based on things that do effect others, like your foreign policy and the fact that you guys are constantly dragging your heels on climate change. In addition your primary and secondary education system is, on average, complete shit (your universities are great if you can afford them). This makes for a relatively ignorant population, which is very dangerous for the world's most powerful country.
@sdrawkcabgnipytmi I agree the US foreign policy is bull shit and destructive, but you germans are still in Afghanistan if I'm not mistakent. Claiming that US higher education is unaffordable is typical European ignorance.The Federal government will loan anybody whatever funds they need to attend higher education.I agree that our primary education sucks, but its run by the government so that should not be a suprise, at least american parents can homeschool, something not allowed in Deutchland
Well the point isn't so much that you can't go to university, it's that many end up with ridiculous debts. Homeschooling is a whole other debate which I'm not going to get into at this point...
Yes, Germany is in Afghanistan. But nobody claims that Germany's perfect.
And don't get me wrong here, there's quite a bit that I hate about the United States, but there's also a whole lot that I love about it. It's not that that I'm anti-American, it's that I want America to be better.
@sdrawkcabgnipytmi In germany all workers are forced to pay taxes to support university education. Debt payments and tax payments do not differ from the point of the view of the payer. In principle this is not better than each individual incuring the costs themselfs. Indeed If I get an education it seems reasonable that I should be the one to bear the cost of that education, not everyonebody else (including some people who will not recieve such an education).
@sdrawkcabgnipytmi There seems to be this widespread belief in Europe that the US government has almost no social welfare. This is totally bogus. The government in the US funds directly more than 80% of all education in the country (at all levels) and about 85% of all healthcare expenditures. University in the US is not only for "the rich". Anybody who wants to can go. Indeed many people who shouldnt go do anyway.
@sdrawkcabgnipytmi There is no need to debate homeschool in detail, but its a simple fact that its and option in the US, but its not an option in Germany. Also germany has no freedom of speech or freedom of religion or a right to bear arms. A lack of any of those would be viewed as draconina and backward by even the most "ignorant" americans. Also the climate is always changing, so how exactly are americans "dragging their feet"?
@martin912 Yeah, germany bans certain religions, like sceintiology because they label them "cults". So what if they are, people should be free to join cults if they feel like it. The germany state subsidized some churches (Catholics and Lutherans), and taxes others. There is no scientific evidence that gun ownership rates cause crime as you baselessly assert. New Zeeland, Switzerland, Canada, prove that.
@lengthyounarther Scientology is not banned in Germany. You have the freedom to choose religion (or cult) and school as you please, and as long as you do not deny the holocaust you have freedom of speech as well. Once again: Where do you learn that filth you are spreading? Or are you just bored and make that up?
@Dukster9000 Tom Cruise was denyed making a movie (about killing Hitler no less) in Germany because he is a member of the church of scientology. And people have a right to deny the holocaust if they want to. And its more broad than simply denying the holocause, if I estimate the numbers killed at something other than the offical one, thats also a crime. The Swastica is also banned, is it not, even though the hammer and sickle is not.
@lengthyounarther Tom Cruise was not denied to make the movie, please give me the source where you got that from. And I guess if you want the right to deny the holocaust, you also want the right to insult, spit on and harm people?! Of course your "rights" are limited when you hurt other human beings, please use some common sense. You are also free to use the Swastika as long it is for educational or artistic purpose. So for the last time: WHO TAUGHT YOU THAT GARBAGE?
@Dukster9000 Whether I want to insult somebody or not, it irrelevent. You have a right to speak, even if it hurts other peoples feelings. Its funny how you list restrictions on free speech and then claim that germany has free speech. No it doesnt, and you like any slave support your governments controle over you. Hurting feelings and name calling does not violate the rights of others, you dont have a right to have your feelings protected from others speech.
@lengthyounarther It's not about the government, you fucking asshole, who the hell do you think you are to call me slave. It's about the dignity of others. It's written in our Constitution that the dignity of any human being is untouchable. Spreading lies, denouncing and insulting attacks this dignity. I'm aware that I insulted you, but since you are for "free speech" you shouldn't have a problem with that. I'm just glad that wackos like you will never gain power anywhere. Have a nice day.
@Dukster9000 The german state claims ownership over all germans. For instance, home schooling is ILLEGAL. Children are not allowed to be homeschooled, this directly implies that they are state property.The state also desides which schools you can, and cannot attend, steering people they think of as stupid into more meanial labor.Nobody is allowed the dignaty to own a weopon (begging for permission to get a firearms license is not dignified). And again your speech and religion are restricted
@lengthyounarther It's useless. I asked you three times for the source of the filth you are claiming and all you do is repeating the same brainwashed crap over and over again like a fucking broken tape recorder. I won't waste my time any longer, you fanatic. But for the love of god, go to your homeschooling teacher and ask him for some spelling lessons. Considering you are a native speaker, you are a disgrace to the englisch language.
@Dukster9000 You admit all my points. You admit homeschooling is not allowed. You admit speech is restricted as are gun rights and religious freedom. You dont even deny these claims. Indeed you make a point to rationalize your states tyranical restrictions. Funny how you would assume that since I advocate people be allowed to homeschool, I must have been homeschooled (false) or that I'm relgious (also false). PS, there is no c in English.
@Dukster9000 Your government picks which students get to attend which type of school. In a word Pädagogik (streaming in english).Germany is cited, by all comparisons to engage strongly in streaming, ie the state run school picking which students go with which schools.This is not "equal" at all. In effect each german Lander desides who goes to Gymnasium,Realschule, Hauptschule,Gesamtschule.Statistically this system discriminates against Cathlics, rural people, and immigrants and is not "fair"
@lengthyounarther If you want to teach your children as you want you are allowed to found your own school, but it has to be equal to public schools in terms of quality. This is because of the EQUAL right to education for every child, even for the children of retarded fundamentalists as you are.
@23PowerL I'm agnostic. In the US lots of ATHIEST homeschool their kids, because they feel they can do a better job than the state can (studies prove this to be true). Claiming that children are forced to attend state schools for equaltity is just an excuse. If parents demonstrated that they were educating their kids as well or better than the state, they are still NOT allowed to homeschool, proving that equality is not the real motivation, the state OWNS all Germany Children.
@23PowerL Your government picks which students get to attend which type of school. In a word Pädagogik (streaming in english).Germany is cited, by all comparisons to engage strongly in streaming, ie the state run school picking which students go with which schools.This is not "equal" at all. In effect each german Lander desides who goes to Gymnasium,Realschule, Hauptschule,Gesamtschule.Statistically this system discriminates against Cathlics, rural people, and immigrants and is not "fair"
@lengthyounarther You were not homeschooled? So you are a slave as well? And when exactly did I call you religious? The teachers do not decide which school you have to attend. To get access to higher education all you have to have is the proper grade average. The only person responsible for that average is you. Or are you telling me that retarded people can get college degrees in the U.S. even though they can't pass the tests? There is a c in the german word "englisch".
@Dukster9000 Americans have the option to home school if they want, or attend private school. Americans support this.The german government does not allow children to be home schooled (even if parants could demonstrate its superiority).You support the german state controling peoples lives in this way, thats what makes you a slave. There is no test all students must attend to attend university, and you can enter regardless of your previous school experience, its a huge difference from Pädagogik
@Dukster9000 I was alerted to the state of german education from my german friends. They are all from the south and west, and so have fewer of the bad qualities found among Prussians and people from the former GDR. Who will be "allowed" to attend higher education is determined at tests that occure very early. Children who are "steered" away from higher education have a much harder time than do kids in the US. (the US system is very flawed as well, but in certain areas there is more freedom)
@lengthyounarther Maybe you should learn the definition of a "slave" first. Like I said, I'm glad fanatic maniacs like you will never have influence on society.
@Dukster9000 So I think people should be allowed to homeschool if they want, how does that make me "fanatic". How is it "fanatic" to suggest that the state have less control over the individial? Please explain. The fact that you view any suggestion that the state loose some control over the invidual as "fanatic" demonstrates very slave like thinking.
@lengthyounarther *sigh* Great how you take anything out of context. I called you fanatic for repeating your "slave" rant. A word which meaning you obviously don't understand. We could repeat this useless ping-pong for the rest of eternity (For example: you claim Germany has no freedom of religion, I tell you every religion and even cults are free to practice and ask you for the source of the claims you make, then you ignore it and keep repeating that Germany has no freedom of Religion.
@lengthyounarther Same goes for the other topics you mentioned. Just one last question: You said you had german friends. Do you call them slaves and limp dick leftovers as well or are you in real life too well mannered (or a coward) to tell them that? And if you tell them are they still your friends? Just asking.
@Dukster9000 I dont call my german friends slaves because they do not support the german governments policies, as you do, but maybe they are biased because they are all from Bavaria and Baden-Württemberg. I'll send you some links about freedom of religion, because they cannot be posted as comments.
@lengthyounarther A couple of posts ago you called all Germans slaves. Either you are schizophrenic or have really poor memory. Also, I don't support our government, I despise politicians, I didn't even vote the last time. All I did was correcting the wrong claims you pointed out.
@Dukster9000 I sent you a message detailing the lack of freedom of religion. I pointed out the laws infringing on free speech, mostly pertaining to holocaust denial. And I pointed out the realative lack of gun rights. None of these claims are "wrong". Maybe you dont like Merkel, but you've excused these infringments. Your happy guns are strictly regulated (falsely claiming guns cause crime). You support laws banning "holocaust denial" and you dont see how church taxes infringe religion.
@23PowerL Would you prefer if is said "practically forbidden"? Anybody who attempts it is prosicuted successfully based on the claim that every german has a "right" to an equal education. This is bogus. For one the german education system is not "equal" at all, hence the practice of Pädagogik. The claim is also bogus because even if parents could demonstrate that their homeschooling is superior, they are still not permitted to do it.
@lengthyounarther yeah, it's obviously not fair that children get better education, when their parents can afford homeschooling; equally bad education for everyone.
@23PowerL well life is unfair, the idea of sociolizum and comonisum was exactly that, equal oportunity for every1, regardles of the status of ther prenets and so on...but that didn't do too good for us (easerern Europe)
@Monshteiner Eastern Europe is an example of dictatorship, not of socialism. Most of the dictators were not interested in socialism but in their own power. The idea of socialism is democracy in economy, but economy was dictated from above in the assumption that few can speak for all. Lack of liberty and incompetence at directing economy lead to the downfall - for the better of people. Although most people in the former USSR are as poor and unfree as they were before.
@23PowerL yes, the ideal of sociolizum and comonisum are good, but almost (if not absolutely) every time a dictator took advantage of the system, that is the main reason it didn't work out (for most countries, the PR of China seems to advance, though the practical dictatorship)
I don't live in the former USSR,but in a country of the former block (Bulgaria), so i don't have personal experience about life there, but as much as i know people are generaly richer(not much though) and defenetly freer
@benway666 Yeah, abolishing a freedom in the name of protection, classic authoritarianism. This is exactly the same in principle as the US government saying it needs to take naked pickures of airline passengers, in order to "protect" us. Almost no homeshool parents are pshychos and some public school teacher are psychos, so that justificaton does not work. In almost all cases it is obvious the parents more than competent. Your just using hypothetical fears to justify state power.
I can only recall one specific case here in germany where parents tried to insist on homeschooling, and that was for religious reasons only. As far as i know they moved to the usa. If you are not a surgeon, you shouldn't cut people open, and if you are not a teacher, you should't teach. Threatening kids with eternal pain and suffering for not following the mostly archaic and often incosistent rules of the parents favorite club is just psychological terror.
@benway666 I can recall many examples of public school teacher abusing or failing to teach. By your logic this means public schools should not be allowed, because its possible public school teachers can fail their students. Millions of children are home schooled in the US and all the statistics show that they are better educated than their public (or private) school counterparts in all subjects, not just religion. Look up youtube user Rowanfortunwood for an athiest home schooler (in the UK)
@benway666 Your using a classic double standard with regard to the state.If a parent fails to teach, in your mind it proves that parents should not be allowed to teach.However when the state fails to teach (as it does all the time) this does not similary invalidte state schools.This is sheer hypocracy.Also there is 0 evidence that home school children are less well educated, indeed the opposite, so instead of basing your entire obinion on anecdotal evidence, why dont you do a little research.
@lengthyounarther first of all scientology is not banned in germany...there is a big central in berlin...they are just under suspicion to use brainwash to get members what is against our basic laws...
you know where the differnece is, between "protect your own people" and
"freedom"? the scientologist are a sect. not more, not less. those people only want your money and they don't have anything to do with freedom of religion....this isn't a religion. over and out.
@martin912 Says the Germany government. It could be said that all religions just want money, including ones specifically sanctioned and subsidized by the German state. When I point to examples of germany infringing on peoples rights (religion, speech, guns), you deny it, but then go on to make excuses as to how the governments prohabitions are not actual infringments. Kind of like if I said the US doesnt kill civilians, because everyone the army kills is a terrorist. Dumb logic.
@martin912 I have to agree with you on this one. I'm German too but I don't agree with #2.
American society is very violent in general, it has nothing to do with the right to bear arms. In fact, most firearms are used rightfully against home invaders, robbers etc. Criminals don't obey laws. See Switzerland where people are required to TAKE HOME the rifle they used during their military training. Switzerland is nowhere near as bad as the US.
als Statistiker in Sachen "proWaffen" könnte man natürlich auch Kanada einführen....dennoch....wenn man über eine komplett übercholerische Gesellschaft verfügt, wie es die USA nunmal tut, halte ich wenig davon, diesen Leuten auch noch eine Waffe in die Hand zu drücken.
@martin912 ja schon aber in den US-Staaten, wo die Gesetzte härter sind (New Jersey) ist die Waffenkriminalität wesentlich höher.
Und selbst wenn man in Amerika die Waffen komplett verbieten sollte, gibt es das Problem mit der mexikanischen Grenze. Dann schmuggeln sie die Waffen von dort weiter rein, und verkaufen sie auf der Straße. DANN haben nurnoch Gesetzlose Waffen.
@martin912 The country in Western Europe with the strictess gun laws is the UK, yet they also have the the most violent crime (more even than the US). Several countries with more liberal gun laws, like Norway, Finland and Switzerland all have much lower crime rates. Also most of the world, including Eastern Europe have very strick gun laws, even complete bans, but much higher homicide rates than the US. All this is to say there is no corrilation to liberal gun laws and violent crime.
@hardstyle905 your correct that within the US the highest crime is found in the places with the most gun control. In a few cities and states gun regulations are even more stringent than they are in Germany. For example 65% of all homicides occure in just 5 cities, New York, LA, Chicago, Washington, and Detroit. With the exception of Detroit, these cities litterally have the strictess gun laws in america.
k if the entire world is using metric EXCEPT the US and the UK (excluding Ireland) than that must tell you something.
Imperial: 12 inches to a foot, 3 feet to a yard, 5280 feet to a mile.
Metric: 10MM to a CM, 10CM to a DAM, 10DAM to an M, 1000M to a KM.
metric may look harder but look at all of the round numbers.
tehfailmyn 2 weeks ago
@tehfailmyn yes, it tells us that the rest of the world are followers, and that the US is a leader and doesn't do things just because everyone else is doing it.
lostalex77 1 week ago
After an inch we use 8th,16th,32th,64th so on. Unless you are using 100th,1000th so on,of an inch.
twg6669 2 weeks ago
@ struggler
there is also the deci of the metric system but no one really uses it. decilitre=0.1liter, decimetre etc. then there is the deca and the hecto which are also rarely used. decameter=10 metre and hectometre= 100 metre. although in the netherlands we do use the hectare which derives from hectoare which is 100x100 metre. mainly used by farmers to indicate how much land they own or want to bargain with.
frisianmouve 2 weeks ago
$1.77 for gas "expensive"?
SHUT UP!!!!!!
CAR18MEN 1 month ago
thi should of been america vs the rest of the world
PurpleCatWithC4 2 months ago
A MAS BIER BIDDE!
battisa 2 months ago
In the United States, the metric system is used in science and engineering, and also by the military. I think the general population doesn't want to change because we are too lazy to learn something new, or because we don't want to let go of something that we are so used to.
shizoid123 2 months ago
@shizoid123
But there is nothing to learn. Just listin':
10 mm = 1 cm
100 cm = 1 meter
1000 meter = 1 kilometer
That's all! Now u know the metric system perfectly!
Now I tell you the perfect wife.
90/60/90 it means 90cm for the bust, 60cm for the waist, 90cm for the hip. Google 90 60 90 in google pictures... ;)
Struggler10 1 month ago
i think most of america knows the metric system is easier, its just that it would be hard to switch everything over. it would be a good idea tho
autopsy87 3 months ago
i like cubic inch ;)
especially 454
Dobbion2wheels 3 months ago
Alex totally reminds me of Jason Segel :D
TheShadar 4 months ago
Nearly 4 Liters only costs 2 USD?
Here in Europe you'd pay around €2,20 for only 1 liter!
HugoElders 4 months ago
The original Meter is like .6mm too short or too long.
YouTumult 5 months ago
12, 4 miles - how many inches? haha
12, 4 kilometers are 12.400 meters and 1.240.000 cm........
the european system is much better ;)
Kreisliga1000 6 months ago 4
Meter win, reasons: NASA use them... US Army use it 1click is 1km :)
oXbOxr00X 6 months ago 3
@oXbOxr00X Its because of standardization that both the military and NASA use Metric. We tried to switch to Metric in the 70's but it did not really work, so now we use both US system and Metric.
GunsOfThePhoenix 4 months ago
@GunsOfThePhoenix i did't now that, thx!!
oXbOxr00X 4 months ago
@GunsOfThePhoenix Can I ask, why it didn't work out?
ClipOriss 2 months ago
@ClipOriss Its just a hard and complicated/expensive switch, now with computers it has gotten a lot easier though.
GunsOfThePhoenix 2 months ago
In Norway, we call 10 kilometers for 1 "mil" :P so we call a "Mile" for Engelske mil (English miles)
stonee206 6 months ago
As Americans we usually use our crappy non-based 10 system. However, in all science classes, the metric system is used. So technically we learn both systems...
We should just switch over, the metric system is much more practical.
Renagade1325 7 months ago 3
$1,77 per gallon??? when was this video made??
FutureLHpilot 9 months ago 2
"10mm to a cm,100cm to a meter, 1000 meter to a kilometer"
sounds like you just have to add a nil to the end. but it's just not that.
the basic is one meter. then you have 10m, 100m, 1000m, 10000m ... and you just put deka, hekta, kilo, mega, ... in front
for 1/10, 1/100, 1/1000, 1/10000 you easily put dezi, centi, milli, mikro in front.
why didn't they say that? THAT is actually the difference
Nebenbei, es ist leerer, und nicht freier Raum.
epofreak 9 months ago 2
The superiority of Standard measure is easily demonstrated in geometry in architecture and building. The system based on 12 work much better with the Pythagorean Theorem.
ahfa53 9 months ago
I disagree. I like the imperial system better than the metric system (I know how to use both and convert them). I just prefer it and I'll almost always use it, with a few exceptions, because I don't like quarts.
But hey, to each their own, right? :P
Hammergunshipping 9 months ago
they changed it, because the distance can change. the speed of light doesnt change. the problem occured as far as I know, when they checked wether a meter is a meter and found out, that it is about 0.000001m less or more. So it wasnt scientifically correct anymore.
seabazzz 9 months ago
1 inch= 1 Zoll
tropicthunder332 9 months ago
lb comes from the french «livre» for pound and the b in lb comes from britanniique.
So «livre britannique» makes lb and it translates for british pound.
Also, the money in UK is the pound, and the sign on the money is «L». The L comes the french royal unit of money the «Louis» and then «livre».
ThequebecerScandinav 11 months ago
Metric system FTW. I'm an Australian and it's so easy to travel anywhere in the world without having to worry about conversions.
angelspit 11 months ago
In America, we use divisions of the inch, not centimeters. Either divided by 2 repeatedly or divided into tenths if you're a machinist.
seanattikus 11 months ago 2
@seanattikus As an American i was taught millimeter, centimeters, inches, foot, yards, meters, kilometers, miles, liters, quarts, pints, and gallons
communismkills1 11 months ago
I like the American system because it is different from everyone else :D
Kanoki989 11 months ago
I think you guys should do a series: "England vs Germany" Would be interesting, as england is obviously different to America. :D
adafunk 1 year ago
For the most part the younger generations in America understand the metric system better then the imperial system now. My schools in Arizona have basically ignored the imperial system all together. The metric system is far better and hopefully the US will fully convert in a short while.
inyourmind11 1 year ago
i love the brothers: nano, micro, mili, centi, deci, kilo, mega & giga
HomoEconomicusX 1 year ago
lb stands for the latin word librum
egon262 1 year ago
what??? the cm is not used in the U.S. as a smaller unit than an inch xDDD
megasword33 1 year ago
OK, your 5/8" wrench is too small: what is the next size larger?
If your 10mm wrench is too small, what is the next size larger?
Come on! The Metric system is much, much easier (once you get used to it).
RCD503 1 year ago 14
us system: 12 inches to a foot, 5280 feet to a mile
European system: 10mm to a cm,100cm to a meter, 1000 meter to a kilometer
whats easyer?
TheStargatefan1000 1 year ago 74
meter.cause its more accurate.but maybe its easier for you cause you know it since your childhood.
GeneralSchultz 1 month ago
imperial
GeneralSchultz 1 month ago
@TheStargatefan1000 why are europeans trying to invade and destroy american culture? It's not about what's easier, it's about tradition and culture. what is easier, going to mcdonalds or going to a traditional german restaurant??
lostalex77 1 week ago
@lostalex77 Well of course it is easier to go to Mc but is it healthier? The europeans are not invading the american culture. This is a discussion about wich system is better. Not wich shall be used in america
TheStargatefan1000 1 week ago
@TheStargatefan1000 well obviously the American system is better, America is the most successful country in the history of the world, if you have a better system, why arn't you the most power and prosperous country in the world?
lostalex77 1 week ago
@lostalex77 xD rofel! This one made my Day... Ty
tharula 1 week ago
@lostalex77 Hehe it is funny that the americans still think they are the most powerfull country in the world
TheStargatefan1000 1 week ago
@TheStargatefan1000 who is more powerful?
lostalex77 5 days ago
@TheStargatefan1000 The US: 1,8 mio soldiers
china 2,2 mio soldiers
russia: 1,4 mio soldiers
india 1,3 mio soldiers
EU: 1,8 mio soldiers
the US is not that powerful
TheStargatefan1000 4 days ago
I prefer the Metric system. We should get rid of this crap system in Britain. We basically have both Metric and the Imperial system in use. =/
Perilix 1 year ago
We tried to switch to Metric in the 1970's, it failed. However in science most of us solely use Metric or Kelvin scale.
GunsOfThePhoenix 1 year ago
Clash the two systems randomly and you get the UK. In various generations I have found people who might know their weight in kilograms but not stone while knowing their height in feet and inches but not centimetres. I know people who work in metres and miles but can't visualise yards or kilometres. A good amount of people know both.
Beer comes in pints but cans/bottles have militres on the side. Butchers sell meat in pounds and ounces, Pic'n'mix is weighed in grams.
It's brilliant.
jonnypotpuffer 1 year ago
Nonickelone 1 year ago
wow... the us system doesnt make any sense at. all !
szeddezs 1 year ago 2
@szeddezs wow youre so right
TheStargatefan1000 1 year ago
The worst thing about the us system is that it's not base 10. It would be alright if we just used some arbitrary unit of measurement that differed from the metric system, but when you consider nonuniform steps in the system, the math just gets ridiculously ugly. 12 inches to a foot, 5280 feet to a mile; It's just retarded. Thomas Jefferson actually proposed in 1790 to have the system overhauled to conform to the decimal system (10 inches to a foot), but the measure was sadly not passed.
fosterslover 1 year ago
Good god, when was this filmed? I wish gas prices were 1.77...
fosterslover 1 year ago
Hey guys, i really really like your show, but you soooo often admit not knowing something that would take about 2 minutes of online research. but keep on anyway, it's fun watching :)
benway666 1 year ago
Yeah I'm sure someone has said this, but the new definition of the meter is so that we can define the speed of light. Based on our definition of the meter, light travels in free space at 2.99E8 meters/second (the second big number they talked about).
msl1333 1 year ago
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skiegiek 1 year ago
The "lb" abbreviation was taken from the ancient Roman unit "libra", which is around 330 grams.
ThePyro3825 1 year ago
The metric system is miles better than the US one....
baerch1 1 year ago 2
@baerch1
no, it's kilometres better :)
Muhlineks 7 months ago
@Muhlineks haha...you´re right !
baerch1 7 months ago
where is the gas so cheap?!?!?! =D
Knocks1990 1 year ago
@Knocks1990 in the US.....
baerch1 1 year ago
I was waiting for this video so long...
Thanks guys for re-uploading it :)
alondro666 1 year ago
The inch also exists in Germany. But we call it "Zoll"
Schlachti10 1 year ago
I just can't think of NASA (or any serious hardcore scientific matters) not using the metric system.
fennie2578 1 year ago
Yeah, the US/Imperial system is weird. For just about all science we use the metric system, and we learn the metric system in school. I'm a science student, the idea of doing science with feet and gallons is laughable. But in daily life we use the US/Imperial system, and so our references for everyday things are all in the US/Imperial system. If someone says to me "It's 84 km away" I have to convert to miles in my head to really understand. Same with weight. Also same with Fahrenheit to Celsius.
Adamanman 1 year ago
a inch is exactly 2.54 cm :)
dslashdoodlezz 1 year ago
I was born and raised in the States and still live in the States and I think the metric system is WAY easier than the system we use in the States.
tokzimmer483 1 year ago
*face palm. the imperial system does blow. quarts to pints to cups to ounces all of that shit is confusing and in uneven denominations. and its true, where the hell did we get "lb" to represent pound?
tealbluewhite 1 year ago
I miss the old GvUSA. Also, in engineering, we usually go from inches down to mils, which are thousandths of an inch... not centimeters.
abcd827 1 year ago
I miss the old GvUSA
abcd827 1 year ago
The US system of measurement is terrible - we are the only ones in the world (except Libya) that still uses it. We need to convert but we're lazy about it, sadly.
cattiecupcake 1 year ago
@cattiecupcake LIBYA IS THE ONLY ONE??!! is tha ttrue? i have no idea
sorgster 1 year ago
@cattiecupcake
no its the USA, Myanmar/Burma and Liberia
also the US system is..... stupid
TyonKree 1 year ago
Even in America, when doing anything with science or math we use the metric system. For example, I am a microbiology student, and when I'm doing experiments we use microliters, etc. We do that because it makes all of our calculations easier, and we can compare our data with collaborators around the world.
msl1333 1 year ago
@UserNamei5 haha im a junior in college and i just now understand our system..lets not change just yet
CFLWjgjc 1 year ago
=_= Huh? ...Well, at least that helps me with my schoolwork a little. Awesome video, as always. ♥
1LoliFox15 1 year ago
@lengthyounarther Really interesting to see how you thing about germany. btw i also find some interesting site about international size of penis: fuzoku,sh/teaches/0010/index,html so everything you said is wrong
xXxkennedysxXx 1 year ago
you forgot fl. oz.
Gnometower 1 year ago
nice laptop
Ichiban941987 1 year ago
I wish they would at least teach us both systems here. It would make sense.
Also when you two kept saying "science" .. I was half expecting you to start singing weird science from the movie!
Oh speaking of... what's the difference between movies there and here? I know Germany produces some, but I don't find them like I do here. I've only seen a few animations, and so on. I would like to hear your take on that! :)
Fallennyte 1 year ago
did u confuse urself??
hehe
but it is pretty cool. i am always confused about that.
it seems that there is only US who use yard or so.
u guys r pretty good
sharonsu22 1 year ago
This has been flagged as spam show
don't feed the trolls
12345678901179 1 year ago
We use the word pint just as a beer... It's not a volume measurement, you just want a beer :D
maudTH 1 year ago
ahahahah! i love ya'll!
woockie27 1 year ago
5:28-5:33 :DDDDD
WaterFor3st 1 year ago
yah, the only good mesurments in the imperial system is the mile and the gallon
SIXCHA 1 year ago
Being Australian, I'm sort of familiar with both systems, and can swap back and forth in my head. The ones I have trouble with are fluid ounces, and Fahrenheit - I can never remember if - say - 65F is time to take a jacket or whatever.
zebidee55 1 year ago
You guys really need to find a British person to sit in the middle for these videos. In almost all ways Britain is halfway between Germany and the USA, especially this one where we arbitrarily switch between metric and imperial for different things.
ingyinginging 1 year ago
Most boring video you guys have made, Do people really need to learn metric conversion from youtybe video? C'mon guys. Be creative.
elperverto7 1 year ago
The metric system is just great. I mean, it's used everywhere in the world and it is simple to understand. Only those crazy Americans and most of that British people still use their unbelievable complicate system..
xxsuperchris 1 year ago
@xxsuperchris Actually the United States, the UK, Canada, Australia, the Republic of Ireland, India, Malaysia, Hong Kong, Antigua and Barbuda, Belize, Burma, Ecuador, Grenada, Guyana, and Sierra Leone all use the Imperial system in one way or another. It's not just us "crazy Americans".
SmoknReafer 1 year ago
freu mich auf die neue folge!
ralfonzo83 1 year ago
i have noticed after watching these vid these guys are pretty anti british
6Gizmo101 1 year ago
Imperial system #1 :]
Kanoki989 1 year ago
kompliziertes aber interessantes thema ;)
welcome back
Skandinaver92 1 year ago
I'm so sorry to say this, but: You Americans are crazy! *lol
Thank God for the metric system!
Ich freue mich auf neue Videos von euch, Jungs!
MissSeyton 1 year ago
299792458 m/s is actually the light velocity
skateschuette 1 year ago
ein neues video in 10 tagen!! sehr schön :))
rebelx2 1 year ago
Habt ihr das nicht schonmal gepostet? Irgendwie kommt mir das Video bekannt vor.
Killerkarpfen1990 1 year ago
Der Meter wurde neu definiert, damit man ihn im ganzen Universum relativ leicht nachmessen kann und nicht jedesmal nach paris Fahren muss. Die lange Zahl in der Definition ist die Lichtgeschwindigkeit.
They Redefinid the meter, so u can control a meter in the hole universe and not only if you are in paris. By the way, the long number in the definiton is the speed of light.
(Sorry for my bad englisch)
FireOfPast 1 year ago 14
What I have found really interesting since moving to Germany, is the differences in cooking measurements. American recipes call for things such as "one cup" of sugar, or flour, or even of milk or other liquid. Here in Germany, liquids in recipes are measured by volume, same as with the cup in America, but non liquids are measured by weight. Our measuring cup does have markings on it showing the volume of for example 500 grams of sugar or flour etc so weighing is not always necessary.
bkc1965 1 year ago
Wow, I learned a lot guys thanx =)
WerewolflovesKelly 1 year ago
Great Video! A lot of fun and I learned something. Thanks so much
tonybeir 1 year ago
yeah right we WISH gas was $1.77/gal... dang economy
leeleestyle 1 year ago
@leeleestyle
Germans pay $ 6./gal !!!
....or 1,40 EUR/ Liter like we use to say.
HesseJamez 1 year ago
It's hilarious how people make such a big deal about this. It's an important part of anti-Americanism in which something about the US just ENRAGES people from other countries even though it doesn't affect them at all. Talk about butthurt and obsessed.
Newsflash. The US uses BOTH systems. The average American can use both systems and convert them pretty easily. I know that there are is 1km in .6 miles. I know that there is about 25 mm in an inch etc... I use BOTH in school and work.
MercenarySlick 1 year ago
@MercenarySlick
I agree with you on this issue, but most of anti-Americanism actually is based on things that do effect others, like your foreign policy and the fact that you guys are constantly dragging your heels on climate change. In addition your primary and secondary education system is, on average, complete shit (your universities are great if you can afford them). This makes for a relatively ignorant population, which is very dangerous for the world's most powerful country.
sdrawkcabgnipytmi 1 year ago
@sdrawkcabgnipytmi I agree the US foreign policy is bull shit and destructive, but you germans are still in Afghanistan if I'm not mistakent. Claiming that US higher education is unaffordable is typical European ignorance.The Federal government will loan anybody whatever funds they need to attend higher education.I agree that our primary education sucks, but its run by the government so that should not be a suprise, at least american parents can homeschool, something not allowed in Deutchland
lengthyounarther 1 year ago
@lengthyounarther
Well the point isn't so much that you can't go to university, it's that many end up with ridiculous debts. Homeschooling is a whole other debate which I'm not going to get into at this point...
Yes, Germany is in Afghanistan. But nobody claims that Germany's perfect.
And don't get me wrong here, there's quite a bit that I hate about the United States, but there's also a whole lot that I love about it. It's not that that I'm anti-American, it's that I want America to be better.
sdrawkcabgnipytmi 1 year ago
@sdrawkcabgnipytmi In germany all workers are forced to pay taxes to support university education. Debt payments and tax payments do not differ from the point of the view of the payer. In principle this is not better than each individual incuring the costs themselfs. Indeed If I get an education it seems reasonable that I should be the one to bear the cost of that education, not everyonebody else (including some people who will not recieve such an education).
lengthyounarther 1 year ago
@sdrawkcabgnipytmi There seems to be this widespread belief in Europe that the US government has almost no social welfare. This is totally bogus. The government in the US funds directly more than 80% of all education in the country (at all levels) and about 85% of all healthcare expenditures. University in the US is not only for "the rich". Anybody who wants to can go. Indeed many people who shouldnt go do anyway.
lengthyounarther 1 year ago
@sdrawkcabgnipytmi There is no need to debate homeschool in detail, but its a simple fact that its and option in the US, but its not an option in Germany. Also germany has no freedom of speech or freedom of religion or a right to bear arms. A lack of any of those would be viewed as draconina and backward by even the most "ignorant" americans. Also the climate is always changing, so how exactly are americans "dragging their feet"?
lengthyounarther 1 year ago
@lengthyounarther
What the hell is wrong with you?
1. No freedom of speech? No freedom of relifgion? ...there is in fact a lot more of that freedom in germany.
de,wikipedia,org/wiki/Press_Freedom_Index
2. Your criminal rates just show why there shouldn't be a right to bear arms.
3. Since when can a climate change? It is a climate.
And I'm not speaking of the global warmind or something, I mean tropocal, subtropical, arctic a.s.o. climates.
martin912 1 year ago
@martin912 Yeah, germany bans certain religions, like sceintiology because they label them "cults". So what if they are, people should be free to join cults if they feel like it. The germany state subsidized some churches (Catholics and Lutherans), and taxes others. There is no scientific evidence that gun ownership rates cause crime as you baselessly assert. New Zeeland, Switzerland, Canada, prove that.
lengthyounarther 1 year ago
@lengthyounarther Scientology is not banned in Germany. You have the freedom to choose religion (or cult) and school as you please, and as long as you do not deny the holocaust you have freedom of speech as well. Once again: Where do you learn that filth you are spreading? Or are you just bored and make that up?
Dukster9000 1 year ago
@Dukster9000 Tom Cruise was denyed making a movie (about killing Hitler no less) in Germany because he is a member of the church of scientology. And people have a right to deny the holocaust if they want to. And its more broad than simply denying the holocause, if I estimate the numbers killed at something other than the offical one, thats also a crime. The Swastica is also banned, is it not, even though the hammer and sickle is not.
lengthyounarther 1 year ago
@lengthyounarther Tom Cruise was not denied to make the movie, please give me the source where you got that from. And I guess if you want the right to deny the holocaust, you also want the right to insult, spit on and harm people?! Of course your "rights" are limited when you hurt other human beings, please use some common sense. You are also free to use the Swastika as long it is for educational or artistic purpose. So for the last time: WHO TAUGHT YOU THAT GARBAGE?
Dukster9000 1 year ago
@Dukster9000 Whether I want to insult somebody or not, it irrelevent. You have a right to speak, even if it hurts other peoples feelings. Its funny how you list restrictions on free speech and then claim that germany has free speech. No it doesnt, and you like any slave support your governments controle over you. Hurting feelings and name calling does not violate the rights of others, you dont have a right to have your feelings protected from others speech.
lengthyounarther 1 year ago
@lengthyounarther It's not about the government, you fucking asshole, who the hell do you think you are to call me slave. It's about the dignity of others. It's written in our Constitution that the dignity of any human being is untouchable. Spreading lies, denouncing and insulting attacks this dignity. I'm aware that I insulted you, but since you are for "free speech" you shouldn't have a problem with that. I'm just glad that wackos like you will never gain power anywhere. Have a nice day.
Dukster9000 1 year ago 6
@Dukster9000 The german state claims ownership over all germans. For instance, home schooling is ILLEGAL. Children are not allowed to be homeschooled, this directly implies that they are state property.The state also desides which schools you can, and cannot attend, steering people they think of as stupid into more meanial labor.Nobody is allowed the dignaty to own a weopon (begging for permission to get a firearms license is not dignified). And again your speech and religion are restricted
lengthyounarther 1 year ago
@lengthyounarther It's useless. I asked you three times for the source of the filth you are claiming and all you do is repeating the same brainwashed crap over and over again like a fucking broken tape recorder. I won't waste my time any longer, you fanatic. But for the love of god, go to your homeschooling teacher and ask him for some spelling lessons. Considering you are a native speaker, you are a disgrace to the englisch language.
Dukster9000 1 year ago
@Dukster9000 You admit all my points. You admit homeschooling is not allowed. You admit speech is restricted as are gun rights and religious freedom. You dont even deny these claims. Indeed you make a point to rationalize your states tyranical restrictions. Funny how you would assume that since I advocate people be allowed to homeschool, I must have been homeschooled (false) or that I'm relgious (also false). PS, there is no c in English.
lengthyounarther 1 year ago
@Dukster9000 Your government picks which students get to attend which type of school. In a word Pädagogik (streaming in english).Germany is cited, by all comparisons to engage strongly in streaming, ie the state run school picking which students go with which schools.This is not "equal" at all. In effect each german Lander desides who goes to Gymnasium,Realschule, Hauptschule,Gesamtschule.Statistically this system discriminates against Cathlics, rural people, and immigrants and is not "fair"
lengthyounarther 1 year ago
@lengthyounarther If you want to teach your children as you want you are allowed to found your own school, but it has to be equal to public schools in terms of quality. This is because of the EQUAL right to education for every child, even for the children of retarded fundamentalists as you are.
23PowerL 1 year ago
@23PowerL I'm agnostic. In the US lots of ATHIEST homeschool their kids, because they feel they can do a better job than the state can (studies prove this to be true). Claiming that children are forced to attend state schools for equaltity is just an excuse. If parents demonstrated that they were educating their kids as well or better than the state, they are still NOT allowed to homeschool, proving that equality is not the real motivation, the state OWNS all Germany Children.
lengthyounarther 1 year ago
@23PowerL Your government picks which students get to attend which type of school. In a word Pädagogik (streaming in english).Germany is cited, by all comparisons to engage strongly in streaming, ie the state run school picking which students go with which schools.This is not "equal" at all. In effect each german Lander desides who goes to Gymnasium,Realschule, Hauptschule,Gesamtschule.Statistically this system discriminates against Cathlics, rural people, and immigrants and is not "fair"
lengthyounarther 1 year ago
@lengthyounarther You were not homeschooled? So you are a slave as well? And when exactly did I call you religious? The teachers do not decide which school you have to attend. To get access to higher education all you have to have is the proper grade average. The only person responsible for that average is you. Or are you telling me that retarded people can get college degrees in the U.S. even though they can't pass the tests? There is a c in the german word "englisch".
Dukster9000 1 year ago
@Dukster9000 Americans have the option to home school if they want, or attend private school. Americans support this.The german government does not allow children to be home schooled (even if parants could demonstrate its superiority).You support the german state controling peoples lives in this way, thats what makes you a slave. There is no test all students must attend to attend university, and you can enter regardless of your previous school experience, its a huge difference from Pädagogik
lengthyounarther 1 year ago
@Dukster9000 I was alerted to the state of german education from my german friends. They are all from the south and west, and so have fewer of the bad qualities found among Prussians and people from the former GDR. Who will be "allowed" to attend higher education is determined at tests that occure very early. Children who are "steered" away from higher education have a much harder time than do kids in the US. (the US system is very flawed as well, but in certain areas there is more freedom)
lengthyounarther 1 year ago
@lengthyounarther Maybe you should learn the definition of a "slave" first. Like I said, I'm glad fanatic maniacs like you will never have influence on society.
Dukster9000 1 year ago
@Dukster9000 So I think people should be allowed to homeschool if they want, how does that make me "fanatic". How is it "fanatic" to suggest that the state have less control over the individial? Please explain. The fact that you view any suggestion that the state loose some control over the invidual as "fanatic" demonstrates very slave like thinking.
lengthyounarther 1 year ago
@lengthyounarther *sigh* Great how you take anything out of context. I called you fanatic for repeating your "slave" rant. A word which meaning you obviously don't understand. We could repeat this useless ping-pong for the rest of eternity (For example: you claim Germany has no freedom of religion, I tell you every religion and even cults are free to practice and ask you for the source of the claims you make, then you ignore it and keep repeating that Germany has no freedom of Religion.
Dukster9000 1 year ago
@lengthyounarther Same goes for the other topics you mentioned. Just one last question: You said you had german friends. Do you call them slaves and limp dick leftovers as well or are you in real life too well mannered (or a coward) to tell them that? And if you tell them are they still your friends? Just asking.
Dukster9000 1 year ago
@Dukster9000 I dont call my german friends slaves because they do not support the german governments policies, as you do, but maybe they are biased because they are all from Bavaria and Baden-Württemberg. I'll send you some links about freedom of religion, because they cannot be posted as comments.
lengthyounarther 1 year ago
@lengthyounarther A couple of posts ago you called all Germans slaves. Either you are schizophrenic or have really poor memory. Also, I don't support our government, I despise politicians, I didn't even vote the last time. All I did was correcting the wrong claims you pointed out.
Dukster9000 1 year ago
@Dukster9000 I sent you a message detailing the lack of freedom of religion. I pointed out the laws infringing on free speech, mostly pertaining to holocaust denial. And I pointed out the realative lack of gun rights. None of these claims are "wrong". Maybe you dont like Merkel, but you've excused these infringments. Your happy guns are strictly regulated (falsely claiming guns cause crime). You support laws banning "holocaust denial" and you dont see how church taxes infringe religion.
lengthyounarther 1 year ago
@lengthyounarther Did you feel "enslaved" when you had to "beg" for your driver's licence?
Dukster9000 1 year ago
@Dukster9000 You bet I do.
lengthyounarther 1 year ago
@lengthyounarther That's the reason I hate our goverment, but to say homeschooling is strictly forbidden is incorrect.
23PowerL 1 year ago
@23PowerL Would you prefer if is said "practically forbidden"? Anybody who attempts it is prosicuted successfully based on the claim that every german has a "right" to an equal education. This is bogus. For one the german education system is not "equal" at all, hence the practice of Pädagogik. The claim is also bogus because even if parents could demonstrate that their homeschooling is superior, they are still not permitted to do it.
lengthyounarther 1 year ago
@lengthyounarther yeah, it's obviously not fair that children get better education, when their parents can afford homeschooling; equally bad education for everyone.
23PowerL 1 year ago
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Monshteiner 1 year ago
@23PowerL well life is unfair, the idea of sociolizum and comonisum was exactly that, equal oportunity for every1, regardles of the status of ther prenets and so on...but that didn't do too good for us (easerern Europe)
Monshteiner 1 year ago
@Monshteiner Eastern Europe is an example of dictatorship, not of socialism. Most of the dictators were not interested in socialism but in their own power. The idea of socialism is democracy in economy, but economy was dictated from above in the assumption that few can speak for all. Lack of liberty and incompetence at directing economy lead to the downfall - for the better of people. Although most people in the former USSR are as poor and unfree as they were before.
23PowerL 1 year ago
@23PowerL yes, the ideal of sociolizum and comonisum are good, but almost (if not absolutely) every time a dictator took advantage of the system, that is the main reason it didn't work out (for most countries, the PR of China seems to advance, though the practical dictatorship)
I don't live in the former USSR,but in a country of the former block (Bulgaria), so i don't have personal experience about life there, but as much as i know people are generaly richer(not much though) and defenetly freer
Monshteiner 1 year ago
@Monshteiner That's already EU, doesn't count :D But if you have a look at Russia, things are different.
23PowerL 1 year ago
@lengthyounarther
thats because germany doesnt want for example religious psychos to teach their kids bullshit. ^^
benway666 1 year ago
@benway666 Yeah, abolishing a freedom in the name of protection, classic authoritarianism. This is exactly the same in principle as the US government saying it needs to take naked pickures of airline passengers, in order to "protect" us. Almost no homeshool parents are pshychos and some public school teacher are psychos, so that justificaton does not work. In almost all cases it is obvious the parents more than competent. Your just using hypothetical fears to justify state power.
lengthyounarther 1 year ago
@lengthyounarther
I can only recall one specific case here in germany where parents tried to insist on homeschooling, and that was for religious reasons only. As far as i know they moved to the usa. If you are not a surgeon, you shouldn't cut people open, and if you are not a teacher, you should't teach. Threatening kids with eternal pain and suffering for not following the mostly archaic and often incosistent rules of the parents favorite club is just psychological terror.
benway666 1 year ago
@benway666 I can recall many examples of public school teacher abusing or failing to teach. By your logic this means public schools should not be allowed, because its possible public school teachers can fail their students. Millions of children are home schooled in the US and all the statistics show that they are better educated than their public (or private) school counterparts in all subjects, not just religion. Look up youtube user Rowanfortunwood for an athiest home schooler (in the UK)
lengthyounarther 1 year ago
@benway666 Your using a classic double standard with regard to the state.If a parent fails to teach, in your mind it proves that parents should not be allowed to teach.However when the state fails to teach (as it does all the time) this does not similary invalidte state schools.This is sheer hypocracy.Also there is 0 evidence that home school children are less well educated, indeed the opposite, so instead of basing your entire obinion on anecdotal evidence, why dont you do a little research.
lengthyounarther 1 year ago
@lengthyounarther
ok
benway666 1 year ago
@lengthyounarther first of all scientology is not banned in germany...there is a big central in berlin...they are just under suspicion to use brainwash to get members what is against our basic laws...
skiegiek 1 year ago
@lengthyounarther
you know where the differnece is, between "protect your own people" and
"freedom"? the scientologist are a sect. not more, not less. those people only want your money and they don't have anything to do with freedom of religion....this isn't a religion. over and out.
martin912 1 year ago
@martin912 Says the Germany government. It could be said that all religions just want money, including ones specifically sanctioned and subsidized by the German state. When I point to examples of germany infringing on peoples rights (religion, speech, guns), you deny it, but then go on to make excuses as to how the governments prohabitions are not actual infringments. Kind of like if I said the US doesnt kill civilians, because everyone the army kills is a terrorist. Dumb logic.
lengthyounarther 1 year ago
@martin912 I have to agree with you on this one. I'm German too but I don't agree with #2.
American society is very violent in general, it has nothing to do with the right to bear arms. In fact, most firearms are used rightfully against home invaders, robbers etc. Criminals don't obey laws. See Switzerland where people are required to TAKE HOME the rifle they used during their military training. Switzerland is nowhere near as bad as the US.
In der Schweiz hat jeder ein Schnellfeuergewehr.
hardstyle905 1 year ago
@hardstyle905
als Statistiker in Sachen "proWaffen" könnte man natürlich auch Kanada einführen....dennoch....wenn man über eine komplett übercholerische Gesellschaft verfügt, wie es die USA nunmal tut, halte ich wenig davon, diesen Leuten auch noch eine Waffe in die Hand zu drücken.
martin912 1 year ago
@martin912 ja schon aber in den US-Staaten, wo die Gesetzte härter sind (New Jersey) ist die Waffenkriminalität wesentlich höher.
Und selbst wenn man in Amerika die Waffen komplett verbieten sollte, gibt es das Problem mit der mexikanischen Grenze. Dann schmuggeln sie die Waffen von dort weiter rein, und verkaufen sie auf der Straße. DANN haben nurnoch Gesetzlose Waffen.
hardstyle905 1 year ago
@hardstyle905
Ist ja nicht so, als würden nicht genug Leute aus/ und vom Ostblock versuchen Waffen einzuschmuggeln. ;-)
Wenn mann das konsequent durchzieht, schafft man das auch in den USA.
martin912 1 year ago
@martin912 The country in Western Europe with the strictess gun laws is the UK, yet they also have the the most violent crime (more even than the US). Several countries with more liberal gun laws, like Norway, Finland and Switzerland all have much lower crime rates. Also most of the world, including Eastern Europe have very strick gun laws, even complete bans, but much higher homicide rates than the US. All this is to say there is no corrilation to liberal gun laws and violent crime.
lengthyounarther 1 year ago
@hardstyle905 your correct that within the US the highest crime is found in the places with the most gun control. In a few cities and states gun regulations are even more stringent than they are in Germany. For example 65% of all homicides occure in just 5 cities, New York, LA, Chicago, Washington, and Detroit. With the exception of Detroit, these cities litterally have the strictess gun laws in america.
lengthyounarther 1 year ago