"Pray Away the Gay" Alan Chambers Admits Lying - John Becker

[MultiSamTaylor]

It is 2012--- why are we still even having this conversation?!

[DeadMarine1980]

In Muslim countries gay people are simply executed.

[ultracloudx]

...dat Wall-E poster



[bigpecker251]

They will catch Allan Chambers smoking METH while getting gang banged by a dozen men.

[DoubleTalkingJive]

Talk about timing! Just this week, Alan Chambers held an emergency meeting at Exodus HQ trying to save the "ex-gay" ministry from financial ruin.

Megachurches have pulled out left and right, their most recent Love Won Out conference in Houston attracted a pitiful 450 people. It's obvious that this ex-gay thing just isn't working anymore.

Now Alan's admitting that there aren't "hundreds of thousands" of "ex-gays"; not than anyone really believed in the first place.

Exodus deserves oblivion.

[MaryXD767]

pray away ignorant people

[shittyfagg]

David, anti-gay therapies don't do harm to 'patients' as gay people do not suffer from any illness. 

[eswyatt]

@shittyfagg I'm sure Dave, in using the word "patients," didn't mean gay people were mentally ill. Put your antenna down; people don't speak with the precision of a legal document.

[shittyfagg]

@eswyatt I know, it was a minor technical note anyway. Not that bothered.

[underdescribed]

It sounded to me that Chambers' point is just the simple and straightforward one that one can control behavior but not various feelings, just as straight guys can't control lusts after women but can keep themselves from f*cking them. There's nothing deep or perplexing about that position, David. In fact, that seems obviously true. I'm not agreeing with other things the guy has said, just that part.

[flake452]

I think muslims believe that people cannot help being gay, but the actual sin is acting on it.

[46619TAB]

Too bad we can't pray away the closed minded bigots.

[leland61]

The Muslim response to gay men is public hangings. Fairly typical of their solution for many things including conversion to another religion or denunciation of Islam. Kill, Kill, Kill - it's the way of Islam.

[homerfromhelI]

fuck religious freedom.

inside your house and in your head, you're your own boss. outside those, SHUT THE FUCK UP.

[SuperBenzid]

The ex-gay muslim movement involves a lot of stones and rope. Unlike the other groups they unfortunately have a pretty good success rate.

[MichaelBussee1]

Chambers said that "99.9% don't change their sexual orientation". He still believes you can (and should) "quit" the "behavior" or "lifestyle". Still, it's a step closer to telling the truth.

[yo1o2eggs]

Of course u can change behavior. You can behave like a female if ur male. But why?

[ChrisOrDavid]

The "ex-gay" movement is more prominent in Christianity only because that is the extent that our legal system will permit. If we didn't have our current legal system, Christians would deal with homosexuals as prescribed by their interpretation of Leviticus. Don't kid yourself.

[eswyatt]

@ChrisOrDavid That's why I think fighting for gay marriage is smart from a tactical standpoint even if one has no interest in getting married. Conservatives always say they have nothing against gays they just don't want the definition of marriage changed. But if gays dropped the marriage equality fight the conservatives would start working backwards from re-instituting DADT, "sodomy laws," all the way back to raiding gay bars. Keep 'em busy on the marriage front.

[l0gically]

Of COURSE you can control your behavior. DUH. But Chambers never stopped to consider that expecting gays to "behave" like straights would be no different than expecting straights to behave like gays. Its called "living a lie"

[xadam2dudex]

what a waste of a life people like Alan Chambers and Marcus Bachmann live with the rest of these self hating twisted minds