I think the main point of electric motor assist is electric motors have instant on acceleration. So you can drastically improve your acceleration when paired with a larger petrol engine.
I love electric cars. Every electric car means one less car at the gas pump (shorter line). Lower demand also lowers prices (a little ;-) ) I think it's cool. 30 miles is plenty to get around town and pick up a few things or a few friends. If you have solar panels charge it, you didn't use any fuel then.
@sleadhead1g Not really. I loved doing burnouts in my 68 Firebird with the 400 4 speedand if thenew Camaro's didn't cost so much, I'd have one of those. I built the S10 to see if I could. It was fun!
Does anyone think that the more electric vehicles put on our streets the more the cost of electricity will go up since so many vehicles will need the electricity? Electricity will be the new Gas of the future.. and look at where petro prices are now.
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This whole electric car thing going on at the moment is beginning to annoy me. All this rubbish about electric cars being environmentally friendly is total bull. Electric motors consume the same amount of fossil fuel as internal combustion engines (coal instead of oil), they are less powerful than petrol engine and are completely impracticable. There's a reason electric cars were phased out after the 1920s, they can't compete with gasoline and even with the new technology they still can't
@smithy11742 One thing some people miss out however is that a large power station is more efficient at converting energy from fossil fuels into electricity (Reaching 60% thermal efficiency in the case of gas turbine - Something not even large marine diesel engines can attain!) - Let's not forget that good electric cars are more efficient by design, much like hybrids they have regenerative braking (I hate hybrids, just like to add) - There's a lot of energy lost through braking.
@smithy11742 That's not to say they don't have their downsides. I like to look at technology from a factual non-biased point of view. (I mean come on, I don't own an electric car and have no intention of buying because I don't think we have quite cracked it yet) - But discounting the technology all together is just dumb.
@ebmmdawguy It's not the brushless electric motors or the controller or the wiring that's the problem, as long as you buy reputable brands. Motors, controllers, wires, etc, will well outlast the batteries life. It's the battery that dicounts the technology, and if you did some research, they are improving all the time. There's molten salt batteries, and one still in research is Lithium air.. Battery research is becoming a big thing, and ask yourself this? When have we ever had..
@luc59457 That's why I don't think batteries are the answer. The propulsion is fine, storing the energy is a problem. Retrofit every road with a giant electrified mesh, ala dodgems, there's your answer :p (I am of course joking, but the idea of a road pick-up system is an intriguing one)
@ebmmdawguy Storing the energy is becoming less of a problem. Like I said, Batteries are improving and their's new ones still in research. Please read everything I write.
@ebmmdawguy You should check out the Subaru g4e. It has a range of 200 kilometres (120 mi) and can be fully charged in about eight hours from a home AC power source. A quick charge to 80 per cent of the batteries' capacity is possible in just 15 minutes. The G4e uses a lithium-ion battery developed exclusively by Subaru which employs vanadium technology to allow the battery to store two to three times more lithium ions than conventional lithium-ion batteries
@ebmmdawguy Vanadium pentoxide is an industrial chemical and also occurs naturally in the environment. It is also produced as a by-product upon combustion of certain fossil fuels.
@smithy11742 Wow your so wrong. Electric cars consume about 1/3 the fossil fuels. They are more powerfulthan gasolinevehicles. My S10 can beat almost anyone. Batteries are the weak spot, and they are getting better every day. My Electric vehicle is all I need to get the 30-40 miles I drive every day. If that isn't enough, I'll drive the gas guzzling Prius!
@f16bmathis electic cars are not 24/7 technolagy and are costly when need repairing even hybrids 5,000 to replace the generater on them when thay go bad plug in cars that are only electic will get you stranded on the side of the road and will not go a long distance without rechargeing my soltion to the whole problem a hybrid system like what is on a locomotive no battery in the drivetrain system and the fuel for a enigine well how can you make a kind of fuel tablit for it
@smithy11742 your are so wrong you can charge you car with solar or even wind power so were dose that dam coal plant fit in now and also there is hydro goes to show how much you know.
@smithy11742 Get use to Electric Cars,they are making a huge comeback,but beware,next, your going to see,Blown,Super Charged Electric Motors,sticking out of hoods,WOW.
@smithy11742 electric cars use less fuel, electric motors have 90 to 99 procents less loss, while combustion engines has max 40 procents (diesel). so we use at least 50 procent less fuel
@smithy11742 your an idiot dude, first of all at .01 to .04 a mile depending on utility costs, there is no freaking way you can say they use as much fossil fuels as ICE cars, no matter how dirty the grid is. The ICE burns 100% fossil plus the fossils used to refine the oil to gasoline. The only reason electric cars were phased out is because a few dominate men bought into oil and short thinking mental midgets like you can't think for yourselves. You are addicted to convenience
@smithy11742 You have an opinion but the truth is electric motors are waaaaay more efficient and powerful than gas. Who says they can't be charged from solar or wind power? You're so misinformed. The technology is here and gas vehicles will be "phased out" in about 10 years.
@smithy11742 youre wrong about electric motors being less powerful. you can get way more torque out of electric then anything fossil fuel. the only thing that holds back electric cars is battery capacity. if batteries could hold more power and keep the charge they would be more practical. there is so much money to be made off oil that its believed the oil companies caused the demise of the electric car and any further research.
@smithy11742 thats oil companies, gas car manufacturers and the whole industry (clique) explanation! and fuzy math! Remember first steam Oldsmobile? Now the big heavy trains run an electric. See the German subs of the 2ww as well. Sun, wind and water will produce eletricity! For heaven sake!
@f16bmathis Voltage is speed yes, but current as you said, is acceleration (or in different words, strength).. Think for a moment. Strength can be converted to speed, through gearing.
@luc59457 If you want to think of it like that then voltage is electromotive force. The higher the volts, the higher the force. Amperage is a measurement of current. If you want to accelerate quickly you would apply more voltage to the motor. The motor's internal resistance will determine the amount of current required. If I apply 12 volts to a 1 ohm motor then I will need 12 amps. 6 volts would be 6 amps.
@CajunJoe504 Batteries are rated in amp hours so in theory a 1200 amp hour battery could supply 12 amps for 100 hours or 6 amps for 200 hours. The real kicker is that these figures are way too low for real world transportation application. Motor resistances are more likely to be in the tenth and hundredth ohm range which increases the amount of amps by a factor of 10 or 100. Instead of 12 amps, we have 120 amps or 1200 amps. Now my battery lasts on 1 to 10 hours at 12v.
@CajunJoe504 Batteries are rated in amp hours so in theory a 1200 amp hour battery could supply 12 amps for 100 hours or 6 amps for 200 hours. The real kicker is that these figures are way too low for real world transportation.. The low end batteries, SLA are worthy for local transportation which is all most people need to get to work and do groceries, etc. Batteries are improving, The Subaru g4e does 200kms and 80% quick charge in 15 minutes
@luc59457 Sorry but that is not right. The only way you can force more current to a motor is to up the voltage. 200 amp controller and 12 volt/ 20 amp motor would be just fine 12 volts because the motor will only draw 20 amps at 12 volts. If you push the voltage to 24 volts, the current drawn by the motor would double and you could burn the motor up. It is basic Ohm's law. But yes batteries are constantly improving so it is definitely promising.
@CajunJoe504 No. You can have different current and at different voltages. You can have a motor limited to 5 amps and it can push 36 volts based on the controller, it will spin the same speed as 20amps lets say, but it will not nearly be as powerful.
@luc59457 I can agree with that. My point is that motors "draw" current based on the voltage applied to it and the internal resistance. In your example, a 5a / 36v motor's internal resistance is 7.2 ohms. the 20 amp motor resistance is 1.8 ohms. Power for the same two would be @ 5a = 180 watts and @ 20a = 720 watts. 4 times the power in the 20 amp version. Controllers are rated in the max current they can handle. 200 amp controller does not always supply 200amps. it depends on the load.
@CajunJoe504 Controllers are never exactly what they are rated to be. That is why you can go higher in amps. Like I said you can check Kellycontroller for youself. Low voltage high current, I work with these things, I know what I am talking about.
@CajunJoe504 You can fry a motor very easily if you your motor cannot handle the amps. The thickness(gauge) of windings plays a large factor in the current it can handle.
@luc59457 I do not disagree with that fact. I also work with electric motors DC and brushless. I am saying that if you connect a motor rated for 12 volts and 20 amps to a 200 amp controller, you will not fry the motor if you apply 12 volts to the controller. If you connect the same motor to a controller rated at 10 amps and apply 12 volts, you will fry the controller as the motor will try to draw 20 amps through the 10 amp controller. It may work for a bit but will fry if continuely used.
@CajunJoe504 Controllers become fried when the load on the motor becomes too strong for the peak of the controller so yes. That is why you don't want an under-rated controller as well, for the motor. Good night.
@CajunJoe504 No.. If you go to Kellycontroller you will see some 12-24 volt controllers at 100 amp, even 200 amp, same with the high voltage controllers. Controllers make the difference.
@CajunJoe504 Voltage depicts the Rpm of the motor, amperage depicts the strength, I don't know why you are trying to complicate things: The motor's internal resistance will determine the amount of current required. Answer: NO.. the Controller will determine the amount of current provided to the motor, same with the voltage applied to the motor. If you put a 200amp controller on a 20amp rated motor, you will fry the motor. The motor does not determine lol, unless direct battery.
@f16bmathis Yes Voltage is speed, but speed is also gearing. You can lower the voltage through gearing and up the amps to compensate but you need a motor that can handle the amps. It comes to nearly the same watts in the end, obviously a bit more because of the gearing. But you get the advantage of lower voltage to get the same speed, get it? What I am saying is not complicated.
Nice videos, make more plz! I am into Ev's as well, on my channel.. That's a nice little 12v test of that beast. How many volts are you looking at? I like the lower voltage to get the job done. I use 36 and for a bike, it's more than enough.
I love to see initiative on conversion projects, but I dislike much that still continue to use heavy and inefficient brushed motors. Is not there best technology in the USA.? As an engineer I dedicate myself to do conversions on demand but with BLDC motors are more efficient even than AC induction motors. I hope to become aware of the materials used. Developed controllers and high performance BLDC Motors in Chile. CoNTAC: giturriaga1 (at) hotmail (dot) com
so does the electric motor have two stub outs that spin? I'm guessing if it does, the other stub out could spin an electric generator to produce electricity?
@Kirby00216 well yes I realize that, but that didn't seem to answer my question, I guess I am saying that in addition to the batteries being used, the small generator could provide electricity, not fully enough to power the vehicle, but help slow the drain of the battery, hence more miles per charge? Hope that made sense.
You can get a forklift motor for free or up to $300. Mine is a Warp 9 which cost $1600.- It's a series wound DC motor, so there are brushes. I have rev'd mine without a load, just keep it under 7000
The other side of the motor has a shaft also. It is connected to the flywheel and clutch assy. Look at canadian electric vehicles for an example, quick and easy, but you can make your own just by cutting off the part of the crankshaft that has the holes for the flywheel. Have that center welded to an adapter that fits on the motor's output shaft.
You need batteries to make HHO on the move. Might as well stick a standard electric motor to the batteries which are at least 3x as efficient, quiet, massive torque band and cost 1/6th as much as any "gas" engine in running costs.
Never mind all the idiotic servicing requirements that normal engines require.
Electric cars work! I've got nearly 10,000 on mine allready, and thats just from driving to work the last year. I haven't bought gas since mid December 2010!
Sarcasm is hard to read sometimes. I think most people know where timrocket was headed.
Electric Cars don't work. Buy Gas! Its the only way. No dead batteries always and no weird electric motor sound. Electric motor sound give people Cancer and makes people catch a Heart Attack fast. Stay away from Electric its bad for the environment.
The exhaust from the Electric motor is killing our Ozone layer! Gas powered is the only way. Thats why all cars are Gas powered. The oil companies know what they are doing. They are saving lives instead of getting rich. Poor Oil Companies.
@timrocket2008 you know if i hadnt seen people on here who truly believed that i wouldnt have hesitated to lol, but you never hinted that it was a joke and there are people i have seen and argued with on some of the alt fuel vids that believe there is nothing wrong with the oil market and the oil companies practices.......
@cgspeeddemon1 I believe it. Some people are so ignorant. 67% of the gas you put in your car is just wasted. The energy leaves in the form of heat. The cooling system is needed because of extreme inefficiency. Keeps Oil in high demand and money flowing into the Pockets of the Oil Companies. The Radiator in your car is a Money Waste Gate. Diesel is about 50%
The old electric cars lose 22% of their energy as heat. The New Brushless systems lose as little as 4% It is just insane!
@timrocket2008 oh i am aware of the inefficientcies but diesel has two very big bonuses, its a by product of gasoline production, and it produces NO greenhouse gasses......propane is even better for emmisions but worse for effecentcy and electric cars are expensive, so its all a compromise. but we shouldnt compromise the enviroment!
@cgspeeddemon1 E-Cars would be cheaper if mass produced. The short trip ones are affordable and save people tons of money. diesel engines are awesome. You can convert them to run on Veg oil.
@timrocket2008 unless you feed a bit of browns gas (hho) in with it to make all of the 67% left , well unless you can produce enough to run the engine 100% on hho.. which has been done so many times it makes the electric car worth it, a power source that use's water for fuel (in the case of feeding hho into an engine thats spinning a very powerfull permanent magnet alternator :-) 75 watts to generate the hho, 2 kilowatts out from the alternator.... have fun never needing gasoline ever again
@cgspeeddemon1 you believe that I got some bottom land to sell ya.
The oil companys are the ones hindering fuel cells and electric vehicles, why you think? because they'll lose BILLIONS.
Its been known for over 100 years combustion engines run hydroxy and eliminate the use of fossil fuels. where do you get hydroxy? from simple electrolysis on WATER. yet they go the "fuel cell" which has been proven the most ineffecient way of using hydrogen... you should do your research dude..
@timrockt2008 its easy, but you have to be able to retard the timing on the engines ignition till you get no backfires... other then that you'd need the hho generator, a 12v car battery and then engine on the cart. connect battery before you start engine and disconnect when you stop driving the cart. Only question is, how much hho you need to fuel what engine and how much battery power will you need and how to recharge it with the engine, probably require a bit of engineering and a lot of math
@bluestix It is just a name of the company. Btw, AC induction motors are not advance either, for they have been in use since 1888. So they too, are old technology.
@EETechs, looks like 1/0 copper going to the motor, what's the current draw, 100a? How fast will this go, 3mph for 5 minutes or is there a buttload of 12v batteries hidden?
Ever driven a gasoline go-cart, and then compared it to an electric go kart? The electric ones are fucking insane.
TheGovinda777 1 week ago
I think the main point of electric motor assist is electric motors have instant on acceleration. So you can drastically improve your acceleration when paired with a larger petrol engine.
TheGovinda777 1 week ago
That thing looks framiliar. Looks like one at 35th ave ish and Buckeye.
xlrationmarine 1 week ago
Nice Video That You Share , So Very Nice Thanks You Advanced DC 9" motor in Chevy S10, running test on one 12V battery.
fitnesus 3 weeks ago
I Really Like The Video From Your Advanced DC 9" motor in Chevy S10, running test on one 12V battery.
lupabuatchannel 3 weeks ago
Your Video Is Very Useful Sharing Advanced DC 9" motor in Chevy S10, running test on one 12V battery.
cenedywong 3 weeks ago
I'll stick to the sound and power of a good ol fashion V8... Electric cars are cool and all but they're not for everyone.
scott93257 1 month ago
I love electric cars. Every electric car means one less car at the gas pump (shorter line). Lower demand also lowers prices (a little ;-) ) I think it's cool. 30 miles is plenty to get around town and pick up a few things or a few friends. If you have solar panels charge it, you didn't use any fuel then.
stopglobalswarming 1 month ago
What motor is that?
maheinicke 1 month ago
There's more batteries than that, but I think this is a good one to mention.
luc59457 2 months ago
TREE HUGGER >.<
sleadhead1g 2 months ago
@sleadhead1g Not really. I loved doing burnouts in my 68 Firebird with the 400 4 speedand if thenew Camaro's didn't cost so much, I'd have one of those. I built the S10 to see if I could. It was fun!
f16bmathis 2 months ago 7
Does anyone think that the more electric vehicles put on our streets the more the cost of electricity will go up since so many vehicles will need the electricity? Electricity will be the new Gas of the future.. and look at where petro prices are now.
zylven 3 months ago
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This whole electric car thing going on at the moment is beginning to annoy me. All this rubbish about electric cars being environmentally friendly is total bull. Electric motors consume the same amount of fossil fuel as internal combustion engines (coal instead of oil), they are less powerful than petrol engine and are completely impracticable. There's a reason electric cars were phased out after the 1920s, they can't compete with gasoline and even with the new technology they still can't
smithy11742 3 months ago
@smithy11742 One thing some people miss out however is that a large power station is more efficient at converting energy from fossil fuels into electricity (Reaching 60% thermal efficiency in the case of gas turbine - Something not even large marine diesel engines can attain!) - Let's not forget that good electric cars are more efficient by design, much like hybrids they have regenerative braking (I hate hybrids, just like to add) - There's a lot of energy lost through braking.
ebmmdawguy 2 months ago
@smithy11742 I don't, however, Think the storage of the electricity has been figured out yet, Relying solely on batteries just isn't the answer.
ebmmdawguy 2 months ago
@smithy11742 That's not to say they don't have their downsides. I like to look at technology from a factual non-biased point of view. (I mean come on, I don't own an electric car and have no intention of buying because I don't think we have quite cracked it yet) - But discounting the technology all together is just dumb.
ebmmdawguy 2 months ago
@ebmmdawguy It's not the brushless electric motors or the controller or the wiring that's the problem, as long as you buy reputable brands. Motors, controllers, wires, etc, will well outlast the batteries life. It's the battery that dicounts the technology, and if you did some research, they are improving all the time. There's molten salt batteries, and one still in research is Lithium air.. Battery research is becoming a big thing, and ask yourself this? When have we ever had..
luc59457 2 months ago
@ebmmdawguy When have we ever had (in history) the introduction of all these new types of batteries?
luc59457 2 months ago
@luc59457 That's why I don't think batteries are the answer. The propulsion is fine, storing the energy is a problem. Retrofit every road with a giant electrified mesh, ala dodgems, there's your answer :p (I am of course joking, but the idea of a road pick-up system is an intriguing one)
ebmmdawguy 2 months ago
@ebmmdawguy Storing the energy is becoming less of a problem. Like I said, Batteries are improving and their's new ones still in research. Please read everything I write.
luc59457 2 months ago
@ebmmdawguy You should check out the Subaru g4e. It has a range of 200 kilometres (120 mi) and can be fully charged in about eight hours from a home AC power source. A quick charge to 80 per cent of the batteries' capacity is possible in just 15 minutes. The G4e uses a lithium-ion battery developed exclusively by Subaru which employs vanadium technology to allow the battery to store two to three times more lithium ions than conventional lithium-ion batteries
luc59457 2 months ago
@ebmmdawguy Vanadium redox battery specific energy 10–20 Wh/kg (36–72 J/g)
energy density 15–25 Wh/L (54–65 kJ/L)
Charge/discharge efficiency 75-80.[1]
Time durability 10–20 years
Cycle durability 10,000 cycles
Nominal cell voltage 1.15–1.55 V
luc59457 2 months ago
@ebmmdawguy Vanadium pentoxide is an industrial chemical and also occurs naturally in the environment. It is also produced as a by-product upon combustion of certain fossil fuels.
luc59457 2 months ago
@smithy11742 Wow your so wrong. Electric cars consume about 1/3 the fossil fuels. They are more powerfulthan gasolinevehicles. My S10 can beat almost anyone. Batteries are the weak spot, and they are getting better every day. My Electric vehicle is all I need to get the 30-40 miles I drive every day. If that isn't enough, I'll drive the gas guzzling Prius!
f16bmathis 2 months ago 13
@f16bmathis Regardless of the battery efficiency, disposal of said toxic batteries will become a major issue in the future.
75Bird455 2 months ago
@f16bmathis its all in the capacitors, batteries are soo 20th century :)
Dethreid 2 months ago
@f16bmathis electic cars are not 24/7 technolagy and are costly when need repairing even hybrids 5,000 to replace the generater on them when thay go bad plug in cars that are only electic will get you stranded on the side of the road and will not go a long distance without rechargeing my soltion to the whole problem a hybrid system like what is on a locomotive no battery in the drivetrain system and the fuel for a enigine well how can you make a kind of fuel tablit for it
stingray300m 2 months ago
@f16bmathis very true- ev motors are high torque they would pull a gas car of equal hp backwards while it was spinning its wheels...
porpoisefathom 1 month ago
@smithy11742 your are so wrong you can charge you car with solar or even wind power so were dose that dam coal plant fit in now and also there is hydro goes to show how much you know.
mccunecp 2 months ago
@smithy11742 Get use to Electric Cars,they are making a huge comeback,but beware,next, your going to see,Blown,Super Charged Electric Motors,sticking out of hoods,WOW.
ilililhy1 2 months ago in playlist electric car
@smithy11742 electric cars use less fuel, electric motors have 90 to 99 procents less loss, while combustion engines has max 40 procents (diesel). so we use at least 50 procent less fuel
keesijp49 2 months ago
@smithy11742 your an idiot dude, first of all at .01 to .04 a mile depending on utility costs, there is no freaking way you can say they use as much fossil fuels as ICE cars, no matter how dirty the grid is. The ICE burns 100% fossil plus the fossils used to refine the oil to gasoline. The only reason electric cars were phased out is because a few dominate men bought into oil and short thinking mental midgets like you can't think for yourselves. You are addicted to convenience
UncleArty1 1 month ago
@smithy11742 You have an opinion but the truth is electric motors are waaaaay more efficient and powerful than gas. Who says they can't be charged from solar or wind power? You're so misinformed. The technology is here and gas vehicles will be "phased out" in about 10 years.
72mharris 1 month ago
@smithy11742 youre wrong about electric motors being less powerful. you can get way more torque out of electric then anything fossil fuel. the only thing that holds back electric cars is battery capacity. if batteries could hold more power and keep the charge they would be more practical. there is so much money to be made off oil that its believed the oil companies caused the demise of the electric car and any further research.
Bongwater123 3 weeks ago
@smithy11742 thats oil companies, gas car manufacturers and the whole industry (clique) explanation! and fuzy math! Remember first steam Oldsmobile? Now the big heavy trains run an electric. See the German subs of the 2ww as well. Sun, wind and water will produce eletricity! For heaven sake!
Beskidekk 2 weeks ago
@smithy11742 IC engines are about 20 to 30% efficient (my guess), electric motors can be three times more efficient.
alexcandy1411 1 week ago
If the cars gearing was right, you could get away with lower voltage for a car, but I doubt any of the standard gearing would allow it
luc59457 3 months ago
@luc59457 Voltage is speed. I love going 75-80 down the highway. Amps is acceleration.
f16bmathis 2 months ago
@f16bmathis Voltage is speed yes, but current as you said, is acceleration (or in different words, strength).. Think for a moment. Strength can be converted to speed, through gearing.
luc59457 2 months ago
@luc59457 If you want to think of it like that then voltage is electromotive force. The higher the volts, the higher the force. Amperage is a measurement of current. If you want to accelerate quickly you would apply more voltage to the motor. The motor's internal resistance will determine the amount of current required. If I apply 12 volts to a 1 ohm motor then I will need 12 amps. 6 volts would be 6 amps.
CajunJoe504 3 weeks ago
@CajunJoe504 Batteries are rated in amp hours so in theory a 1200 amp hour battery could supply 12 amps for 100 hours or 6 amps for 200 hours. The real kicker is that these figures are way too low for real world transportation application. Motor resistances are more likely to be in the tenth and hundredth ohm range which increases the amount of amps by a factor of 10 or 100. Instead of 12 amps, we have 120 amps or 1200 amps. Now my battery lasts on 1 to 10 hours at 12v.
CajunJoe504 3 weeks ago
@CajunJoe504 Batteries are rated in amp hours so in theory a 1200 amp hour battery could supply 12 amps for 100 hours or 6 amps for 200 hours. The real kicker is that these figures are way too low for real world transportation.. The low end batteries, SLA are worthy for local transportation which is all most people need to get to work and do groceries, etc. Batteries are improving, The Subaru g4e does 200kms and 80% quick charge in 15 minutes
luc59457 3 weeks ago
@luc59457 Sorry but that is not right. The only way you can force more current to a motor is to up the voltage. 200 amp controller and 12 volt/ 20 amp motor would be just fine 12 volts because the motor will only draw 20 amps at 12 volts. If you push the voltage to 24 volts, the current drawn by the motor would double and you could burn the motor up. It is basic Ohm's law. But yes batteries are constantly improving so it is definitely promising.
CajunJoe504 5 days ago
@CajunJoe504 No. You can have different current and at different voltages. You can have a motor limited to 5 amps and it can push 36 volts based on the controller, it will spin the same speed as 20amps lets say, but it will not nearly be as powerful.
luc59457 5 days ago
@luc59457 I can agree with that. My point is that motors "draw" current based on the voltage applied to it and the internal resistance. In your example, a 5a / 36v motor's internal resistance is 7.2 ohms. the 20 amp motor resistance is 1.8 ohms. Power for the same two would be @ 5a = 180 watts and @ 20a = 720 watts. 4 times the power in the 20 amp version. Controllers are rated in the max current they can handle. 200 amp controller does not always supply 200amps. it depends on the load.
CajunJoe504 5 days ago
@CajunJoe504 Controllers are never exactly what they are rated to be. That is why you can go higher in amps. Like I said you can check Kellycontroller for youself. Low voltage high current, I work with these things, I know what I am talking about.
luc59457 5 days ago
@CajunJoe504 You can fry a motor very easily if you your motor cannot handle the amps. The thickness(gauge) of windings plays a large factor in the current it can handle.
luc59457 5 days ago
@luc59457 I do not disagree with that fact. I also work with electric motors DC and brushless. I am saying that if you connect a motor rated for 12 volts and 20 amps to a 200 amp controller, you will not fry the motor if you apply 12 volts to the controller. If you connect the same motor to a controller rated at 10 amps and apply 12 volts, you will fry the controller as the motor will try to draw 20 amps through the 10 amp controller. It may work for a bit but will fry if continuely used.
CajunJoe504 5 days ago
@CajunJoe504 Controllers become fried when the load on the motor becomes too strong for the peak of the controller so yes. That is why you don't want an under-rated controller as well, for the motor. Good night.
luc59457 5 days ago
@CajunJoe504 No.. If you go to Kellycontroller you will see some 12-24 volt controllers at 100 amp, even 200 amp, same with the high voltage controllers. Controllers make the difference.
luc59457 5 days ago
@CajunJoe504 Voltage depicts the Rpm of the motor, amperage depicts the strength, I don't know why you are trying to complicate things: The motor's internal resistance will determine the amount of current required. Answer: NO.. the Controller will determine the amount of current provided to the motor, same with the voltage applied to the motor. If you put a 200amp controller on a 20amp rated motor, you will fry the motor. The motor does not determine lol, unless direct battery.
luc59457 3 weeks ago
@f16bmathis Yes Voltage is speed, but speed is also gearing. You can lower the voltage through gearing and up the amps to compensate but you need a motor that can handle the amps. It comes to nearly the same watts in the end, obviously a bit more because of the gearing. But you get the advantage of lower voltage to get the same speed, get it? What I am saying is not complicated.
luc59457 5 days ago
Nice videos, make more plz! I am into Ev's as well, on my channel.. That's a nice little 12v test of that beast. How many volts are you looking at? I like the lower voltage to get the job done. I use 36 and for a bike, it's more than enough.
luc59457 3 months ago
how much torque does it produce? and is the electricity to run it cheaper than gas?
1978atcarroll 5 months ago
I'm jealous too. I am going to turn you into the the gas companies they hate people like you
The1234cadillac 6 months ago
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I love to see initiative on conversion projects, but I dislike much that still continue to use heavy and inefficient brushed motors. Is not there best technology in the USA.? As an engineer I dedicate myself to do conversions on demand but with BLDC motors are more efficient even than AC induction motors. I hope to become aware of the materials used. Developed controllers and high performance BLDC Motors in Chile. CoNTAC: giturriaga1 (at) hotmail (dot) com
mariahayde 6 months ago
Excellent video. See my feed motor of a new design.
Ali2011mb 6 months ago
so does the electric motor have two stub outs that spin? I'm guessing if it does, the other stub out could spin an electric generator to produce electricity?
WDPlumbing 8 months ago
@WDPlumbing it would be redundant cnsidering you could use the batteries powering the motor...
Kirby00216 7 months ago
@Kirby00216 well yes I realize that, but that didn't seem to answer my question, I guess I am saying that in addition to the batteries being used, the small generator could provide electricity, not fully enough to power the vehicle, but help slow the drain of the battery, hence more miles per charge? Hope that made sense.
WDPlumbing 7 months ago
@WDPlumbing That makes perfect sense to me. Ive also been working on the same thing. Glad to hear im not alone.
Olgearjammer 3 months ago
You can get a forklift motor for free or up to $300. Mine is a Warp 9 which cost $1600.- It's a series wound DC motor, so there are brushes. I have rev'd mine without a load, just keep it under 7000
f16bmathis 8 months ago
@f16bmathis - Or keep it, OVER 9000!
doomsd46 7 months ago
how much did that electric motor cost?
1louddime 8 months ago
Is that motor brushless?
pluebin 8 months ago
It is said that these engines should not be revved without load. (I just dont want it to go wrong :) )
Denisdog34 9 months ago
The other side of the motor has a shaft also. It is connected to the flywheel and clutch assy. Look at canadian electric vehicles for an example, quick and easy, but you can make your own just by cutting off the part of the crankshaft that has the holes for the flywheel. Have that center welded to an adapter that fits on the motor's output shaft.
f16bmathis 9 months ago
@f16bmathis Why would you need a flywheel? :D
helirious 7 months ago
Nice motor but HOW does it turn the drive shafts?
Itsmeeman1 9 months ago
Thanks for the info
losttreasurehunt 10 months ago
All the posts going on about HHO. Forget it.
You need batteries to make HHO on the move. Might as well stick a standard electric motor to the batteries which are at least 3x as efficient, quiet, massive torque band and cost 1/6th as much as any "gas" engine in running costs.
Never mind all the idiotic servicing requirements that normal engines require.
m1aws 10 months ago
can i ask where you got the battery packs?? thanks
pzpepsi 10 months ago
FTR One 12V battery isn't enough to run your car's AC let alone drive it.
DlSCONNECTED 10 months ago
Found and Used any motors 200 HP and above yet ?
How about a Magnetic Generator over a Hydrogen Generator ?
DailySexFl 11 months ago
Where in the world did u get that motor?
losttreasurehunt 1 year ago
@losttreasurehunt The make looks like a Kostov motor. In the US, Netgain make very similar series DC motors too.
m1aws 10 months ago
i hear Ted Nugent - stranglehold
deltaninjas 1 year ago
Electric cars work! I've got nearly 10,000 on mine allready, and thats just from driving to work the last year. I haven't bought gas since mid December 2010!
Sarcasm is hard to read sometimes. I think most people know where timrocket was headed.
f16bmathis 1 year ago 8
@f16bmathis so where's the energy come from, to turn this electric motor?
Me102288 11 months ago
Electric Cars don't work. Buy Gas! Its the only way. No dead batteries always and no weird electric motor sound. Electric motor sound give people Cancer and makes people catch a Heart Attack fast. Stay away from Electric its bad for the environment.
The exhaust from the Electric motor is killing our Ozone layer! Gas powered is the only way. Thats why all cars are Gas powered. The oil companies know what they are doing. They are saving lives instead of getting rich. Poor Oil Companies.
timrocket2008 1 year ago
@timrocket2008 haha :D
apinaartturi 1 year ago
@timrocket2008 you must have alot of stock in an oil company cause not even retards are dumb enuf to think that!
cgspeeddemon1 1 year ago
@cgspeeddemon1 Well you are dumb enough not to get that comment.
timrocket2008 1 year ago
@timrocket2008 you know if i hadnt seen people on here who truly believed that i wouldnt have hesitated to lol, but you never hinted that it was a joke and there are people i have seen and argued with on some of the alt fuel vids that believe there is nothing wrong with the oil market and the oil companies practices.......
cgspeeddemon1 1 year ago
@cgspeeddemon1 I believe it. Some people are so ignorant. 67% of the gas you put in your car is just wasted. The energy leaves in the form of heat. The cooling system is needed because of extreme inefficiency. Keeps Oil in high demand and money flowing into the Pockets of the Oil Companies. The Radiator in your car is a Money Waste Gate. Diesel is about 50%
The old electric cars lose 22% of their energy as heat. The New Brushless systems lose as little as 4% It is just insane!
timrocket2008 1 year ago
@timrocket2008 oh i am aware of the inefficientcies but diesel has two very big bonuses, its a by product of gasoline production, and it produces NO greenhouse gasses......propane is even better for emmisions but worse for effecentcy and electric cars are expensive, so its all a compromise. but we shouldnt compromise the enviroment!
cgspeeddemon1 1 year ago
@cgspeeddemon1 E-Cars would be cheaper if mass produced. The short trip ones are affordable and save people tons of money. diesel engines are awesome. You can convert them to run on Veg oil.
timrocket2008 1 year ago
@timrocket2008 unless you feed a bit of browns gas (hho) in with it to make all of the 67% left , well unless you can produce enough to run the engine 100% on hho.. which has been done so many times it makes the electric car worth it, a power source that use's water for fuel (in the case of feeding hho into an engine thats spinning a very powerfull permanent magnet alternator :-) 75 watts to generate the hho, 2 kilowatts out from the alternator.... have fun never needing gasoline ever again
Me102288 11 months ago
@cgspeeddemon1 you believe that I got some bottom land to sell ya.
The oil companys are the ones hindering fuel cells and electric vehicles, why you think? because they'll lose BILLIONS.
Its been known for over 100 years combustion engines run hydroxy and eliminate the use of fossil fuels. where do you get hydroxy? from simple electrolysis on WATER. yet they go the "fuel cell" which has been proven the most ineffecient way of using hydrogen... you should do your research dude..
Me102288 11 months ago
@Me102288 I would like to build a hydrogen powered gokart or small scooter for experimenting. How would I get the motor running?
timrocket2008 11 months ago
@timrockt2008 its easy, but you have to be able to retard the timing on the engines ignition till you get no backfires... other then that you'd need the hho generator, a 12v car battery and then engine on the cart. connect battery before you start engine and disconnect when you stop driving the cart. Only question is, how much hho you need to fuel what engine and how much battery power will you need and how to recharge it with the engine, probably require a bit of engineering and a lot of math
Me102288 11 months ago
why not give it 120 volts now? :P
cheetawolf 1 year ago
how much cost that big motor????any idea?
sft219 1 year ago
donde conseguiste el motor, tengo planes de convertir m vocho a electrico.
vdeleno 1 year ago
fuk its to big to put on my bicycle xD
xato909 1 year ago
what the motor it is?
ScaniaFung 1 year ago
I want one for my rz350 motorcycle.
TheTeslaJet 2 years ago
what is the point of all this
thegreatkoua 2 years ago
I'm jealous! Where did you get the adapter plate? You need to post longer videos of you progress.
visualvideos 3 years ago 3
Adapter plate was from Canadian Electric Vehicles $300. The Ford Probes I built myself.
f16bmathis 2 years ago
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minimonika1 1 year ago
Whats 'advanced' about it?
Tesla tech? Gray?
Vortex Coils?
bluestix 3 years ago
advanced is the brand name dolt !
ironlungbongrip 2 years ago 5
@bluestix It is just a name of the company. Btw, AC induction motors are not advance either, for they have been in use since 1888. So they too, are old technology.
EETechs 1 year ago
@EETechs, looks like 1/0 copper going to the motor, what's the current draw, 100a? How fast will this go, 3mph for 5 minutes or is there a buttload of 12v batteries hidden?
mahammadabba 1 year ago