I watched loose change and got a bit unsure. Had I been wrong? This might be true. But I had some questions that had not been answered. Then I watched the movie that is against loose change and proves that they are wrong. I advice that people watch it. It´s very easy to watch loose change and totally believe in it. But I do believe that the government not always tells us the truth and makes us believe things. But I do not think that loose change is the answer to 11/9
This is an amazing movie, and it is telling the truth. The only people who could possibly do this were people on the inside.I willl believe osama did it when you show me the proof.
yeah fox news is pretty bad except they are the only ones telling the truth about the biggest conspiracy out there. Namely the government lying about -- and discrediting the pple who don't -- UFOs being here.
how very interesting that for about two pages a couple pages back it appears that paullynch is arguing with...no one. can we say that the people who are for the 911truth movement are getting their comments deleted?????? unless paullynch likes to make responses to nothing which i doubt.
gah all this censoring on the internet is making me sick. and so do people who watch fox news and think they're seeing truth. and my comment will be deleted. oh well.
Unfortunately, chances for Ron Paul to win presidential election are ... 0. Because of big money story, as usual.
Votes don't make the presidents, only money do. Don't forget that folks.
Can you vote with your bucks ? I don't think so. So, you, americans, and we all, people of the world, are prisonners of the dark laws of money.Theses laws are word wide,above rights of people and above power of national gvts. Its powerfull source is human cupidity. Enjoy...
and then tell me how Avery, Bermas, and Rove are heroes. You people are clearly the dumbest people on the planet. Bush is a genius compared to you people
All those experts in plane crash investigations and all those engineers involved in plane manufacture, all across the world, have been paid off by the evil perpetrators of this crime.
BWAAAHHAAHHAAA.
You are delusional, fucking, goons
Like I said, take it to court, it will be COMEDY GOLD when you do that.
Yes, according to conspiracy goons, the engineers, crash investigators, security guards at WTC, Air Force pilots, airport personnel, Popular Mechanics, the National Institute for Standards and Technology, and about a million other people are lying about 9/11. They also believe the phone calls made by the victims on Flight 93 to their families were fake.
Strange that this huge truth movement could only get about 200 people to a massively publicised event premiering the final cut in New York in September this year.
Ive yet to meet a "truther" in the real world,just like the ebola virus, they are very very rare indeed.
No you didnt, you relied on ONE person, Joseph Keith, to tell you that the plane should disintegrate at 220mph, he even got that sum wrong.
He was talking about a sustained flight at that speed and altitude, not 30 seconds, and guess what, nobodies ever put that to the test in real time experiments.
So, no you didnt check, you saw what you wanted to see and ran with it.
Your the fucken idiot maan, so now you, at 19yo know more about the flight characteristics of aircraft than former Boeing Aerospace engineers who have spent their life on the subject? What a pretentious twat you are, wait! Is that your mother I hear calling you? "paul, I hope your not masturbating in there again"
Paul says "By the way, why dont boeing accuse the govt of lying if they really believe it is an impossibility? Why arent they pushing for an investigation?" I would imagine that sort of action may have a neagtive effect on their ability to acquire any further lucrative govt defence contracts wouldnt you? You are such a fucken moron lynch, you just dont have a clue at all do you??
It doesnt matter what YOU think should or should not have happened, you fucking cretin,you are no expert on anything apart from making up shit off the top of your head.
The fact is that this DID happen and the wings DIDNT fall off in the 30secs at that altitude before it hit the building.
Thats the reality, peabrain,the evidence is right in front of your stupid nose.
No, not impossible, as that is what happened, as witnessed by thousands of eyewitnesses and tv crews and anybody pointing their personal video camera at the events that day.
What would be impossible, is your version of events, involved both mass hallucination of all the witnesses and a conspiracy involving thousands to somehow doctor real time video of fake planes.
"You think that the engine couldnt of bounced 800 yds after impacting the ground at that velocity?
Why?"
Duh, because the engine would have had to bounce BACKWARDS you fucken idiot, it was found on the inbound track of the plane.
Even if it wasnt can you imagine 7 tons "bouncing" nearly a mile given that on each "bounce" its 7 ton penetration into the FIELDS would have slowed it if not stopped it on the first "bounce" (this guy is a genius?)
"Even if it wasnt can you imagine 7 tons "bouncing" nearly a mile given that on each "bounce" its 7 ton penetration into the FIELDS would have slowed it if not stopped it on the first "bounce""
You obviously have vast experience of plane crash investigations, to be so sure that you can disagree with everyone at the scene.
Why does nobody who attended the scene, dug out 95% of flight 93 and sifted through the soil to find all the DNA of the passengers and all those actually qualified to investigate plane crashes, disagree with you, Ragnarok?
Is it because you are deluded, self important dickhead?
Dozens and dozens of witnesses saw flight 11 hit the pentagon, you freak.
There were bits of wreckage on the pentagon lawn and throughout the plane sized hole, the DNA from all the passengers of flight 11 and the flight data recorder was found in the pentagon.
"the DNA from all the passengers of flight 11 and the flight data recorder was found in the pentagon." So the DNA survived an impact that vaporised most of the aircraft, and the subsequent fire/explosion that destroyed a heavily fortified blast proof building did it?
Bwahahahahahahahaha, Ive got an easy IQ test for you paul, take off your shoe, and your IQ should be somehwere near the heel (7,8,9,10??)
Ragnorak, simply because you dont know anything about the modern forensic techniques of DNA analysis, doesnt mean these techniques dont exist.All you require is a tiny little bit of bone or tissue to get a result.
I thought that was common knowledge these days, theres no accounting for the depths of stupidity in the truth movement though.
The terrorists flew 175 too fast at a low altitude.This is inadvisable, as it stresses the airframe, I dont think that they were toooo concerned about damage to the plane at the time as they were more focussed on hitting a certain building with it.
'Take a look at global politics and history' EXACTLY. Look at Operation Gladio. Read the Northwoods document. Find out what really happened at the OK city bombing. Investigate the Gulf Of Tonkin Incident. Investigate the central banking cartel and their funding of all sides of WWI and WWII. WAKE UP.
Instead of focusing on this one event take a look at global politics and history. These KIDS are so hell bent on 911 they are missing everything else that is going on. Can you honestly sit there and tell me that the attacks that happen around the world are done by us? Are the people that take resposibility for these attacks lieing? Get a life you loosers, read some fuckin history.
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I was just at the world premiere with Jason, the co producer. I am a big fan, and there were 9/11 victim families there. I would rate the final cut a C. It's pretty different than the first two movies. Jason did a good job explaining though why they made it the way they did this time and why they cut out a lot of stuff. However, if I saw this by myself on my computer without any explanation, I would be disappointed.
Anyone will believe anything on such a tragic event. We all want to point figers away from the fact that 2 planes hit the buildings and gave substantial damage to the buildings surround them.
I wasnt there, but Im not going to point fingers at my government. Stop bringing greif to the families of 9/11 and just stop.
No video was seen of a BIG ASS PLANE hitting the Pentagon, something that I THINK has video cameras around. The plane disintegrated? by what, Krypton rays?
The Flight 93 also disintegrated. I repeat, Flight 93 "Disintegrated".
Unmanned Robot Airplanes? More plausible than disintegrating airplanes.
We have questions. You "the govt/media" don't have answers.
wake up ppl, frm the uk 2 ur states, even stevie wonder cud c this shit, u.s.a. will rule the world thru the bush administration.... i cnt wait 2 the final cut,those guys r exposing the truth about BUSH-BLAIR-@ the time-AND R CURRENT PM G.BROWN...
no way in hell that a 757 hit the pentagon. if you beleive this, you beleive in the great pumpkin in Peanuts. how could such a massive airplane only make a 16 foot hole??? also, how did flt 93 only make a bomb type crater in Penn.???? where was all the wreckage common to a plane crash???? wake up people, you are being duped by the neocons.
I wish they would let up on that whole "no plane hit the pentagon" thing. But I sincerely support the questioning of the events of 9/11. We need a new investigation. But let's focus in only on what we can conclusively prove and not present our impressions or suspicions as facts.
Why?! NO PLANE EVER HIT THE PENTAGON. Did you not see the pictures of that side of the wall? Did you not see the CLEAN hole that was made on it? No engines were left (like in REAL plane crashes). The grass was still intact. The security video at the gas station NEVER showed a plane. THE PENTAGON WAS NOT STRUCK BY AN AIRPLANE, stop believing what the news tells you. If they can control what isn't said on TV (FCC), they can sure as hell control what you watch.
Consider for one whole minute the possibility that there are provocateurs in the 9/11 truth movement--People feeding lies, faulty information, and unfounded accusations into the little good information that we do have so that the entire movement can be discredited by reference to the kookiest and most improbable of assertions.
When this Film is released, watch it, show it to all your friends and family. Even if you dont understand or beleive, it will raise questions, and hopefully you will learn something about yourself, and your government.
o, i believe whatever the government tells me even when shit don't add up. i have no right to question. i have no curiousity, no intellect, no interest, no reason... only religion, dogma, and faux news. amen!
This should be great, i have so many questions and very little answers for the events of 9/11. Some people say "never forget 9/11" and i never will! Investigate
if 1 alien ufo is real the rest of them might as well be.if they wont answer what brought down wtc 7,then the rest comes under serious question.we dont need another movie.its a simple question !!!!!!!!nothing is being accomplised here apart from making people money.
Is the anonymous "man on the street" being interviewed on the morning of 9/11, who says the buildings collapsed "due to structural failure" in "Loose Change, 2nd Edition", really Douglas Maher, Bush's longtime PR man?
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It was done by 19 arabs but it was ALLOWED TO happen by Bush. Allowing it to happen started the revocation of our freedoms and the beginning of the Patriot Acts. The planes were obviously loaded with bombs when they hit the towers.
you mean 14 since 5 of them are still alive. also the list of the 19 people was found in the bag of one of the "terrorists" that did not make his connecting flight. now let me ask you if you are on a suicide mission why would you have a bag?
That's funny because it seems like the ones who believe the government brought down the towers are the ones who repeat what they are told by dylan avery. I don't really repeat any story. I've researched how all three of the towers were contstructed and what damages they took on. Looking into facts has made it very clear what actually happened.
yeah because dylan avery is THE only one who disagrees with the official LIE hahaha...
so if you researched how all towers fell i will assume youve got a degree in physics and were able to study the debris at the site and what was your conclusion?
Any one who had lincoln logs, leggos or played jenga as a kid can figure out why the towers fell. If you punch through the center of a building it will fall. Take a look at the video, both towers start collapsing precisely where they were hit by planes.
you sound very moronic,the world trade center towers were not built like jenga..oh my god they were built to withstand multiple plane crashes! THATS your research?? hahahaha go play with your jengas some more,and watch out for the brown boogieman....boo!
The planes that DID hit the towers were 767s flying at full speed and weighed between 40 and 60 tons more than the 707. The man said a plane impact would be like a pencil poking through a window screen. Did the hole in the sides of either towers look like a pencil hole in a window screen? The planes hit so hard they broke through the other side of the building.
There you go with your conspiracy rhetoric about the towers being built to withstand multiple plane crashes. They were designed to withstand a possible impact of a 707 that would have been lost in the fog since that is the only way such a plane would accidently hit the building and it would not be traveling at full speed. One man said he believed they could possibly withstand two impacts.
yeah please play with your legos and attempt to get the legos to fall straight down, record it and post it on this site. the legos will fall to one side or another not straight down.
You'd expect a full size building to tip over in one piece? Parts of the building fell in many directions, but eventually they end up going straight down. Gravity was the greatest force on the buildings and it pulls straight down, not to the side.
here dumbass let me explain a couple things to you, bin laden did not control norad. dick cheney did. no plane hit the pentagon, wtc7 was a demolition and guess what? cia officials have came forward to state that. google robert baer questions 911, you know the guy that syriana was about. truly you must have a learning promblem or you like to piss people off. either way you are a dumbass!
I just wish you people would take some time to really think about what you believe. No plane hit the Pentagon despite the thousands of pieces of airplane debris and numerous eye-witneses that saw the plane. If you say there was no debris, you are misinformed. Or you otherwise believe it was all rapdily planted while several light poles were mysteriously knocked over with no one to witness.
robert baer (cia- movie syrianna) along with 6 other cia officials came forward to state that 911 was an inside job. please go get a job with manhatten demolition if you can explain the way the buildings fell, they would save a lot of money for demolition and you can be rich otherwise shut up. nist cannot even explain it
Ok, so I just read several articles and a couple interviews with Robert Baer. Not once does he mention 9/11 was an inside job. He only discusses the motivations of the hijackers on 9/11. You have proven that you are another 9/11 liar.
it was an inside job period. you either are really dumb or you have not done any research. do you even know the side you are taking? who was behind 911? i'll bet you can't even answer those questions correctly according to the govt!
I have found the truth. What I am looking to do is stop people like you from spreading lies about my country. The hijacker's individual names are trivial, but there were hijackers as evidenced by four hijacked planes.
the bush adminstration and the neocons are not america so when i talk about them its funny how you think im talking about "your country"..i see why you feel that way..i love america as much as the next man thats why i want the truth about what this corrupt government is doing to america,i want the truth thats all and 19 hijackers aint the truth
you want to believe what you want to believe not facts. don't worry those responsible will be dealt with and we shall show them no mercy, watch out mr bush and mr cheney and hell we just might go after morons like tsycear
(part two)She SAW, with her EYES, the first jet hit the first tower. She ran the five blocks to her sons school to get him out, just as the dust cloud was closing in, and had to sprint for her life and her son's lest they get asphyxiated.
I dare you to say it to her face. Just make sure you duck.
I dare you...no, I DOUBLE-DOG dare you, to say to the face of my friend that "no planes hit the towers." She lived in Lower Manhattan at the time. Her son was in a school not very far from Ground Zero.
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I have watched the first two "Loose Change" documentaries. The first one intrigued me, but left nagging doubts. After doing my own research I concluded that the documentary was sloppy at best, mendacious at worst. Ditto the second. I hardly think the third will be any better. Slicker maybe, but no better. For the record, plane debris was found all over the INSIDE of the Pentagon.
The key to understanding the clear black op that was 9/11 is not the Pentagon, but rather WTC building 7. No rational person can look at that footage of a 47 story sky scraper collapsing completely in 6.5 seconds without noting that there must have been controlled demolition. It is the Rosetta Stone to understand all the rest of the covert op that used CD to also bring down the twin towers and the most likely AGM-86 ALCM that hit the Pentagon.
The Sheeple are starting to wake-up. Even 6 months ago I would get hate mail for saying what others here are saying...that it was an inside job. Now, no hate mail. 2008, will be the year when all living hell breaks loose and even the most braindead will begin to question the matrix of illusion.
That's because it's been proven over and over that all these conspiracies are false. If you want the truth, look for facts, not a well edited youtube video. Less and less people care about your comments because they know you are in an even smaller minority then you were 6 months ago.
No, I think 2 jumbo jets crashing into them did. It really is hilarious to me how elaborate these schemes of explosives and mystery planes and dissapearing passengers and cover-ups is when we consider how the mountians of evidence really makes it obvious as to what happened.
which mountains of evidence? the ones that were hauled off to china to be melted away before independandt analysis could be made or the ones who were omitted from the 911 comission report?
The steel was there to investigate for 9 months. There was plenty of opportunity. Also FEMA has kept a large amount of the steel and debris as evidence. All the investigating determined that the steel was in fact steel. Yes they recycled the debris, what else would they do with it?
I dont understand the "no planers" having contempt for anyone else making an effort to raise questions, make a half decent "no plane" documentary and maybe people would pay some attention.
If this movie is any good, GWB is gonna wish that he left office this year. If Hillary is the Dem nominee, she will lose for being so fucking stupid. . . . especially since she lives in NYC. Ron Paul is going to cream the Republican candidates. If this movie is any good, seven years of anger is going to come charging out. God help Bush is Cheney starts a war with Iran.
This is much larger than Bush, Cheney, they are merely taking orders.
We can all hope you are correct about Ron Paul, but I fear that most people will be so busy voting against the candidate they love to hate than supporting the Americas only salvation.
If you think for one second that a WHOLE bunch of people couldn't keep their mouths shut about pulling off 911, you have to watch the Discovery Channel show "LOST WORLDS: Secret Cities of the A-Bomb." Entire cities were secretly created and dismantled after the war. 75,000 people kept their mouths shut for five years.
No one is spilling any beans. Loose change is making up stories. When all the witnesses at the pentagon start coming forward and saying that the government made them say they saw a jumbo jet crash into the building, there might be a case.
If you are making reference to the theories of who, how, and what took place I agree that many of the conclusions are difficult to buy and in many cases seem unverifiable.
However there are some pointed conclusive facts that more than suggest that the official story is scientifically impossible. Please don't shoot the messengers, speaking for myself, the following were and continue to be the most damning evidence of a controlled demolition:
Agreed, I am not a religious man, but there is a Bible verse that is quite fitting. Paraphrasing, I believe it makes reference to the notion that the greatest trick the devil ever invented was convincing the world he did not exist.
People who take the governments story need to look at how the Gov't has lied in just a few of the clips in this trailor. Bush states that no one has any clue that they would use planes, but they ran excercies on that day including planes. What can people denying the truth say about the LIES LIES LIES!!!!
I've spoken to several people in the past weeks who are finally open to the fact that the Bush/Cheney regime is evil enough to have carried out 9/11. And once they are open to the possibility, the facts speak for themselves. These people now believe that the official version of 9/11 is a lie. They want to know the truth about 9/11!
You all need to pay closer attention to the window washing unit that was ASCENDING the north face of Building 7 on the morning of 9/11, during the time of the attacks. Don't you think it would have made more sense to lower the unit to the ground rather than pulling it all the way to the top of a 47 story building? Wonder why that was....hhhmmmm??
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I'm with you in spirit but this trailer is a mess...confusing and leaves no impression whatsoever of real questions...horrible job on the trailer...I hope the movie isn't this confusing...
The morons who applaud when a truth-teller is forcibly ejected from a 'public' gathering are the same ones who will applaud and bleat their rapturous approval when they are off-loaded from rail cars into the new FEMA interment camps.
I agree that people need to be more open to new ideas; however you cannot expect people to listen and or embrace your ideas by name calling. Keep in mind that even the majority of the 911 truth movement bought the official story to some degree or another at one point.
I watched loose change and got a bit unsure. Had I been wrong? This might be true. But I had some questions that had not been answered. Then I watched the movie that is against loose change and proves that they are wrong. I advice that people watch it. It´s very easy to watch loose change and totally believe in it. But I do believe that the government not always tells us the truth and makes us believe things. But I do not think that loose change is the answer to 11/9
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TheMickswagga 2 years ago
This is an amazing movie, and it is telling the truth. The only people who could possibly do this were people on the inside.I willl believe osama did it when you show me the proof.
aaronalexdem 3 years ago 9
Oh yeah.......Loose Change is soooooo amazingly true.
That's why the makers of the movie made the following statements:
"There are many dubious claims that are not based of proof in Loose Change".
"We were kids when we made that movie".
If you don't believe me, look up "Mark Roberts vs. Loose Change" debate.
911morontwoofer 2 years ago
that was referring to loose change 2nd ed
QymLym 2 years ago
jesus, alot of americans are loud and stupid. xx
legohair 3 years ago
yeah fox news is pretty bad except they are the only ones telling the truth about the biggest conspiracy out there. Namely the government lying about -- and discrediting the pple who don't -- UFOs being here.
MexTexican 4 years ago
how very interesting that for about two pages a couple pages back it appears that paullynch is arguing with...no one. can we say that the people who are for the 911truth movement are getting their comments deleted?????? unless paullynch likes to make responses to nothing which i doubt.
gah all this censoring on the internet is making me sick. and so do people who watch fox news and think they're seeing truth. and my comment will be deleted. oh well.
sdetoy 4 years ago 2
All you faggots SHUT THE FUCK UP AND FUCKING DO SOMETHING instead of making fun of these kids who has the balls to tell some truth.
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NP323 4 years ago
Unfortunately, chances for Ron Paul to win presidential election are ... 0. Because of big money story, as usual.
Votes don't make the presidents, only money do. Don't forget that folks.
Can you vote with your bucks ? I don't think so. So, you, americans, and we all, people of the world, are prisonners of the dark laws of money.Theses laws are word wide,above rights of people and above power of national gvts. Its powerfull source is human cupidity. Enjoy...
oaxiiboo 4 years ago 4
Truthers: Meet the Creators of "Loose Change"
and then tell me how Avery, Bermas, and Rove are heroes. You people are clearly the dumbest people on the planet. Bush is a genius compared to you people
mulax01 4 years ago
All those experts in plane crash investigations and all those engineers involved in plane manufacture, all across the world, have been paid off by the evil perpetrators of this crime.
BWAAAHHAAHHAAA.
You are delusional, fucking, goons
Like I said, take it to court, it will be COMEDY GOLD when you do that.
paullynch 4 years ago
Yes, according to conspiracy goons, the engineers, crash investigators, security guards at WTC, Air Force pilots, airport personnel, Popular Mechanics, the National Institute for Standards and Technology, and about a million other people are lying about 9/11. They also believe the phone calls made by the victims on Flight 93 to their families were fake.
penebbq 4 years ago
Strange that this huge truth movement could only get about 200 people to a massively publicised event premiering the final cut in New York in September this year.
Ive yet to meet a "truther" in the real world,just like the ebola virus, they are very very rare indeed.
paullynch 4 years ago
Your percentages arent even remotely correct, as you dont clarify what "prior knowledge" actually means to the respondents.
There were lots of warnings that "something" was going to happen.Thats not evidence of anything.
paullynch 4 years ago
90% of Americans believe in an all powerful, all seeing, supernatural being controlling events on earth.
Does that make this belief correct?
paullynch 4 years ago
No you didnt, you relied on ONE person, Joseph Keith, to tell you that the plane should disintegrate at 220mph, he even got that sum wrong.
He was talking about a sustained flight at that speed and altitude, not 30 seconds, and guess what, nobodies ever put that to the test in real time experiments.
So, no you didnt check, you saw what you wanted to see and ran with it.
paullynch 4 years ago
Your the fucken idiot maan, so now you, at 19yo know more about the flight characteristics of aircraft than former Boeing Aerospace engineers who have spent their life on the subject? What a pretentious twat you are, wait! Is that your mother I hear calling you? "paul, I hope your not masturbating in there again"
2012Ragnarok 4 years ago
You prick, if you want to take the comments of one boeing engineer, cherrypicked and distorted by the "truth movement" then good luck.
Why not phone up boeing and ask them yourself whether what happened on 9/11 was "impossible".
Go on, get to it, oh seeker of the twoof.
You fucking goon.
paullynch 4 years ago
By the way, why dont boeing accuse the govt of lying if they really believe it is an impossibility? Why arent they pushing for an investigation?
Are they "in on it"?
You know why they dont?
Its because one engineers poor maths does not represent the companys position on what happened that day.
paullynch 4 years ago
Paul says "By the way, why dont boeing accuse the govt of lying if they really believe it is an impossibility? Why arent they pushing for an investigation?" I would imagine that sort of action may have a neagtive effect on their ability to acquire any further lucrative govt defence contracts wouldnt you? You are such a fucken moron lynch, you just dont have a clue at all do you??
2012Ragnarok 4 years ago
So not only boeing but all the the plane manufacturers in the world are keeping quiet about this dark secret?
You are beyond stupid, you are terminally dumb.
paullynch 4 years ago
Get some help dude.
I mean it.
paullynch 4 years ago
So we need to invent a highly convoluted conspiracy theory involving the whole of the worlds media and everyone who videotaped this incident.
They were all in on some dastardly tv fakery?
Or more simply, the wings didnt fall off in the 20 secs that the plane was doing that speed at that altitude.
Ive said it more than once but I will say it again.... You are a deranged fucking idiot.
paullynch 4 years ago
It doesnt matter what YOU think should or should not have happened, you fucking cretin,you are no expert on anything apart from making up shit off the top of your head.
The fact is that this DID happen and the wings DIDNT fall off in the 30secs at that altitude before it hit the building.
Thats the reality, peabrain,the evidence is right in front of your stupid nose.
paullynch 4 years ago
a lot of arguement here is seemingly drifting from the fact that the current US administration is a collection of war criminals and tyrants.
jekk23 4 years ago
If that is the case then you wont be needing to make up a bunch of insane theories and outright lies to convince anyone then.
paullynch 4 years ago
nope. It''s quite evident the mans scum.
jekk23 4 years ago
The planes were doing that speed,and its not very difficult to check that.
So clearly you are wrong.
Do you make a habit of being wrong?
paullynch 4 years ago
If it was shot down you would kind of expect the debris field to be well spread out and I dont mean bits of paper,idiot.
And you would kind of expect the FDR to have noticed, idiot.
The plane turned over and hit the ground upside down because it was out of control, idiot.
paullynch 4 years ago
No, not impossible, as that is what happened, as witnessed by thousands of eyewitnesses and tv crews and anybody pointing their personal video camera at the events that day.
What would be impossible, is your version of events, involved both mass hallucination of all the witnesses and a conspiracy involving thousands to somehow doctor real time video of fake planes.
That would define impossible.
You fucking deranged nutter.:)
paullynch 4 years ago
You think that the engine couldnt of bounced 800 yds after impacting the ground at that velocity?
Why?
If flight 93 was shot down then why did the FDR, recovered in the crater, show that all systems were normal as it plummetted to the ground?
FDRs tend to notice things like missile strikes.
You are a deranged nutter.
paullynch 4 years ago
"You think that the engine couldnt of bounced 800 yds after impacting the ground at that velocity?
Why?"
Duh, because the engine would have had to bounce BACKWARDS you fucken idiot, it was found on the inbound track of the plane.
Even if it wasnt can you imagine 7 tons "bouncing" nearly a mile given that on each "bounce" its 7 ton penetration into the FIELDS would have slowed it if not stopped it on the first "bounce" (this guy is a genius?)
2012Ragnarok 4 years ago
"Even if it wasnt can you imagine 7 tons "bouncing" nearly a mile given that on each "bounce" its 7 ton penetration into the FIELDS would have slowed it if not stopped it on the first "bounce""
You obviously have vast experience of plane crash investigations, to be so sure that you can disagree with everyone at the scene.
What qualifications are those Ragnarok?
paullynch 4 years ago
Why does nobody who attended the scene, dug out 95% of flight 93 and sifted through the soil to find all the DNA of the passengers and all those actually qualified to investigate plane crashes, disagree with you, Ragnarok?
Is it because you are deluded, self important dickhead?
paullynch 4 years ago
By the way, the engine didnt bounce backwards, it was found 300yds south of the crash site.
Not 800yds and not north.
You just cant help lying, can you?
paullynch 4 years ago
No, doing that to a plane is dangerous and thats why boeing says what it says.
Perhaps the hijackers didnt read the safety manual properly?
You would have thought they would have taken more care wouldnt you?
How irresponsible of them!
You deranged fucking idiot.
paullynch 4 years ago
Dozens and dozens of witnesses saw flight 11 hit the pentagon, you freak.
There were bits of wreckage on the pentagon lawn and throughout the plane sized hole, the DNA from all the passengers of flight 11 and the flight data recorder was found in the pentagon.
Why are you deliberately LYING to people.
paullynch 4 years ago
"the DNA from all the passengers of flight 11 and the flight data recorder was found in the pentagon." So the DNA survived an impact that vaporised most of the aircraft, and the subsequent fire/explosion that destroyed a heavily fortified blast proof building did it?
Bwahahahahahahahaha, Ive got an easy IQ test for you paul, take off your shoe, and your IQ should be somehwere near the heel (7,8,9,10??)
2012Ragnarok 4 years ago
Ragnorak, simply because you dont know anything about the modern forensic techniques of DNA analysis, doesnt mean these techniques dont exist.All you require is a tiny little bit of bone or tissue to get a result.
I thought that was common knowledge these days, theres no accounting for the depths of stupidity in the truth movement though.
paullynch 4 years ago
BWAAAHHAAHHAAA.
Ive looked and I see a whole list of ct sites.
I see one person called Joseph Keith who has got his sums wrong and a spokeswoman who doesnt have any technical expertise commenting on it.
Find me a boeing engineer that says that speed is "impossible", not "inadvisable".
Ok sunshine?
You fucking kook.
paullynch 4 years ago
Hey orrstraylian, why not mention that 175 had just pulled out of a power dive,and only had to maintain that speed for 20secs before impact?
Wouldnt sound so "impossible" then hey?
Pilots dont normally do stuff like this because they care about their plane and they care about passenger comfort.
They werent normal pilots however.
Next time, actually think before opening your mouth. ;)
paullynch 4 years ago
They recovered 95% of flight 93 out of that hole and all the passengers DNA.
The "wreckage" strewn over that distance was lightweight articles and paper blown out by the impact explosion and carried on the wind.
Why are you deliberately LYING to people?
paullynch 4 years ago
The terrorists flew 175 too fast at a low altitude.This is inadvisable, as it stresses the airframe, I dont think that they were toooo concerned about damage to the plane at the time as they were more focussed on hitting a certain building with it.
orrstraylian is a fucking idiot.:)
paullynch 4 years ago
Find me a boeing engineer that says what 175 did was impossible.
Unwise for passenger or plane safety maybe, but that wasnt concerning the pilot was it?
It had just pulled out of a dive and only had to acheive that rate at that speed for about 30secs,which you conveniently forget to mention.
You cretins believe anything dont you?
paullynch 4 years ago
orrstraylian is 100% wrong about everything he just posted.
He clearly has never asked a pilot or anyone involved in the airline industry about this claim.
Why do "truthers" lie so much?
paullynch 4 years ago
'Take a look at global politics and history' EXACTLY. Look at Operation Gladio. Read the Northwoods document. Find out what really happened at the OK city bombing. Investigate the Gulf Of Tonkin Incident. Investigate the central banking cartel and their funding of all sides of WWI and WWII. WAKE UP.
tensionstrategy 4 years ago
Instead of focusing on this one event take a look at global politics and history. These KIDS are so hell bent on 911 they are missing everything else that is going on. Can you honestly sit there and tell me that the attacks that happen around the world are done by us? Are the people that take resposibility for these attacks lieing? Get a life you loosers, read some fuckin history.
chillchilly27 4 years ago
PkofPk 4 years ago
I was just at the world premiere with Jason, the co producer. I am a big fan, and there were 9/11 victim families there. I would rate the final cut a C. It's pretty different than the first two movies. Jason did a good job explaining though why they made it the way they did this time and why they cut out a lot of stuff. However, if I saw this by myself on my computer without any explanation, I would be disappointed.
PhildoM16 4 years ago 2
Anyone will believe anything on such a tragic event. We all want to point figers away from the fact that 2 planes hit the buildings and gave substantial damage to the buildings surround them.
I wasnt there, but Im not going to point fingers at my government. Stop bringing greif to the families of 9/11 and just stop.
nukeade 4 years ago
No video was seen of a BIG ASS PLANE hitting the Pentagon, something that I THINK has video cameras around. The plane disintegrated? by what, Krypton rays?
The Flight 93 also disintegrated. I repeat, Flight 93 "Disintegrated".
Unmanned Robot Airplanes? More plausible than disintegrating airplanes.
We have questions. You "the govt/media" don't have answers.
TeamVacaville 4 years ago
It's the families who pleaded for a more thorough investigation, not cnspiracy theorists. Ask Bob McIlvaine, you douche bag!
glennc100 4 years ago 3
wow wow man fuck
nasouh92 4 years ago
Does anyone know the name of this song?? I'd really appreciate it.
MrYam561 4 years ago
wake up ppl, frm the uk 2 ur states, even stevie wonder cud c this shit, u.s.a. will rule the world thru the bush administration.... i cnt wait 2 the final cut,those guys r exposing the truth about BUSH-BLAIR-@ the time-AND R CURRENT PM G.BROWN...
margabwoy 4 years ago
no way in hell that a 757 hit the pentagon. if you beleive this, you beleive in the great pumpkin in Peanuts. how could such a massive airplane only make a 16 foot hole??? also, how did flt 93 only make a bomb type crater in Penn.???? where was all the wreckage common to a plane crash???? wake up people, you are being duped by the neocons.
n851 4 years ago
I wish they would let up on that whole "no plane hit the pentagon" thing. But I sincerely support the questioning of the events of 9/11. We need a new investigation. But let's focus in only on what we can conclusively prove and not present our impressions or suspicions as facts.
cjfriz 4 years ago
Why?! NO PLANE EVER HIT THE PENTAGON. Did you not see the pictures of that side of the wall? Did you not see the CLEAN hole that was made on it? No engines were left (like in REAL plane crashes). The grass was still intact. The security video at the gas station NEVER showed a plane. THE PENTAGON WAS NOT STRUCK BY AN AIRPLANE, stop believing what the news tells you. If they can control what isn't said on TV (FCC), they can sure as hell control what you watch.
MrNoodlemantra 4 years ago
Consider for one whole minute the possibility that there are provocateurs in the 9/11 truth movement--People feeding lies, faulty information, and unfounded accusations into the little good information that we do have so that the entire movement can be discredited by reference to the kookiest and most improbable of assertions.
cjfriz 4 years ago
Well said!
robtran 4 years ago
So many eyewitnesses saw planes hitting the pentagon? Are they all liers? WTF
WestCoastIrk 4 years ago
WHEN DOES THIS FINAL CUT COME OUT ON THE INTERNET???
i heard november 12th
yayarea41507 4 years ago
i think that there is a conspiracy tho i don't believe in the controlled demo part of it.
yigit2681 4 years ago
NSA Outed on MSM... watch?v=FaoYbm99lxM
(Not that I trust Olberman, but it's better than silence...)
electrostatic1 4 years ago
NSA Outed on MSM... watch?v=FaoYbm99lxM
(Not that I trust Olbermann, but it's beter than silence...)
electrostatic1 4 years ago
When this Film is released, watch it, show it to all your friends and family. Even if you dont understand or beleive, it will raise questions, and hopefully you will learn something about yourself, and your government.
I look forward to this Loose Change =]
sskalor 4 years ago
o, i believe whatever the government tells me even when shit don't add up. i have no right to question. i have no curiousity, no intellect, no interest, no reason... only religion, dogma, and faux news. amen!
MojoJuana 4 years ago
This should be great, i have so many questions and very little answers for the events of 9/11. Some people say "never forget 9/11" and i never will! Investigate
eekdog2005 4 years ago
if 1 alien ufo is real the rest of them might as well be.if they wont answer what brought down wtc 7,then the rest comes under serious question.we dont need another movie.its a simple question !!!!!!!!nothing is being accomplised here apart from making people money.
miserkocho 4 years ago
Nice work, louder than words. The truth will prevail, for it must.
JaneUnderground 4 years ago
It may take 20-30 years for the truth to come out, but eventually the truth will be told and the 911 Truth movement will be vindicated.
Ravyne 4 years ago
Is the anonymous "man on the street" being interviewed on the morning of 9/11, who says the buildings collapsed "due to structural failure" in "Loose Change, 2nd Edition", really Douglas Maher, Bush's longtime PR man?
geyser 4 years ago
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It was done by 19 arabs but it was ALLOWED TO happen by Bush. Allowing it to happen started the revocation of our freedoms and the beginning of the Patriot Acts. The planes were obviously loaded with bombs when they hit the towers.
mgilbo1 4 years ago
you mean 14 since 5 of them are still alive. also the list of the 19 people was found in the bag of one of the "terrorists" that did not make his connecting flight. now let me ask you if you are on a suicide mission why would you have a bag?
dghulderman628 4 years ago
WTCH THE MOVIE
Blown with plane loaded with explosives ?
What did u do on phisics lesson ?
It would blow all around like a buble but the building would stay still.
It was demolished from inside ... Ther is NO other explenation ..
BUT I GUESS THINKING HURTS RIGHT ? THAN WHY SUFFER ..
doopa5 4 years ago
i`ll expose the no planes after the election
but...good luck with the film / truth
INSIDERUK 4 years ago
let`s hope the LOOSE CHANGE movie is better than the somewhat incoherent, confusingly edited trailer...
shotdonkey 4 years ago
These guys should be tried for treason.
tsycear 4 years ago
which guys, dick and bush?
MojoJuana 4 years ago
which guys? cheney and bush?
537semigod 4 years ago
Haha, original responses. Who are the sheep, those who blame bush and cheney for everything or those who know 9/11 was an act of terrosim?
tsycear 4 years ago
9-11 was an act of terrorism because it terrorised the public..the only sheep are the ones who believe it was done by 19 arabs
537semigod 4 years ago 6
That's funny because it seems like the ones who believe the government brought down the towers are the ones who repeat what they are told by dylan avery. I don't really repeat any story. I've researched how all three of the towers were contstructed and what damages they took on. Looking into facts has made it very clear what actually happened.
tsycear 4 years ago
yeah because dylan avery is THE only one who disagrees with the official LIE hahaha...
so if you researched how all towers fell i will assume youve got a degree in physics and were able to study the debris at the site and what was your conclusion?
537semigod 4 years ago 2
Any one who had lincoln logs, leggos or played jenga as a kid can figure out why the towers fell. If you punch through the center of a building it will fall. Take a look at the video, both towers start collapsing precisely where they were hit by planes.
tsycear 4 years ago
you sound very moronic,the world trade center towers were not built like jenga..oh my god they were built to withstand multiple plane crashes! THATS your research?? hahahaha go play with your jengas some more,and watch out for the brown boogieman....boo!
537semigod 4 years ago
tsy is just a paid troll who probably licks bill oreillys boots in his spare time
jondough83 4 years ago
i figured as much
537semigod 4 years ago
The planes that DID hit the towers were 767s flying at full speed and weighed between 40 and 60 tons more than the 707. The man said a plane impact would be like a pencil poking through a window screen. Did the hole in the sides of either towers look like a pencil hole in a window screen? The planes hit so hard they broke through the other side of the building.
tsycear 4 years ago
There you go with your conspiracy rhetoric about the towers being built to withstand multiple plane crashes. They were designed to withstand a possible impact of a 707 that would have been lost in the fog since that is the only way such a plane would accidently hit the building and it would not be traveling at full speed. One man said he believed they could possibly withstand two impacts.
tsycear 4 years ago
go play with your jenga set..paid shill
537semigod 4 years ago
disinfo agent!
Phyroxin 4 years ago
yeah please play with your legos and attempt to get the legos to fall straight down, record it and post it on this site. the legos will fall to one side or another not straight down.
dghulderman628 4 years ago
You'd expect a full size building to tip over in one piece? Parts of the building fell in many directions, but eventually they end up going straight down. Gravity was the greatest force on the buildings and it pulls straight down, not to the side.
tsycear 4 years ago
things fall straight down if you dont have anything on the bottom to support the mass...hows the jenga set working out?
537semigod 4 years ago
here dumbass let me explain a couple things to you, bin laden did not control norad. dick cheney did. no plane hit the pentagon, wtc7 was a demolition and guess what? cia officials have came forward to state that. google robert baer questions 911, you know the guy that syriana was about. truly you must have a learning promblem or you like to piss people off. either way you are a dumbass!
dghulderman628 4 years ago
I just wish you people would take some time to really think about what you believe. No plane hit the Pentagon despite the thousands of pieces of airplane debris and numerous eye-witneses that saw the plane. If you say there was no debris, you are misinformed. Or you otherwise believe it was all rapdily planted while several light poles were mysteriously knocked over with no one to witness.
tsycear 4 years ago
robert baer (cia- movie syrianna) along with 6 other cia officials came forward to state that 911 was an inside job. please go get a job with manhatten demolition if you can explain the way the buildings fell, they would save a lot of money for demolition and you can be rich otherwise shut up. nist cannot even explain it
dghulderman628 4 years ago
Ok, so I just read several articles and a couple interviews with Robert Baer. Not once does he mention 9/11 was an inside job. He only discusses the motivations of the hijackers on 9/11. You have proven that you are another 9/11 liar.
tsycear 4 years ago
it was an inside job period. you either are really dumb or you have not done any research. do you even know the side you are taking? who was behind 911? i'll bet you can't even answer those questions correctly according to the govt!
dghulderman628 4 years ago
The names of the hijackers really don't matter to me.
tsycear 4 years ago
"The names of the hijackers really don't matter to me" tsycear
of course they dont cus youre not really looking for the truth
537semigod 4 years ago
I have found the truth. What I am looking to do is stop people like you from spreading lies about my country. The hijacker's individual names are trivial, but there were hijackers as evidenced by four hijacked planes.
tsycear 4 years ago
the bush adminstration and the neocons are not america so when i talk about them its funny how you think im talking about "your country"..i see why you feel that way..i love america as much as the next man thats why i want the truth about what this corrupt government is doing to america,i want the truth thats all and 19 hijackers aint the truth
537semigod 4 years ago
you want to believe what you want to believe not facts. don't worry those responsible will be dealt with and we shall show them no mercy, watch out mr bush and mr cheney and hell we just might go after morons like tsycear
dghulderman628 4 years ago
(part two)She SAW, with her EYES, the first jet hit the first tower. She ran the five blocks to her sons school to get him out, just as the dust cloud was closing in, and had to sprint for her life and her son's lest they get asphyxiated.
I dare you to say it to her face. Just make sure you duck.
robtran 4 years ago
(part one)Those of you who believe this,
I dare you...no, I DOUBLE-DOG dare you, to say to the face of my friend that "no planes hit the towers." She lived in Lower Manhattan at the time. Her son was in a school not very far from Ground Zero.
robtran 4 years ago
No one says there were no planes.
patryk789 4 years ago
Hon, have you even watched the movie? That argument has never been made. The argument of no plane hitting something had to do with the Pentagon.
AutumnBrooke 4 years ago
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I have watched the first two "Loose Change" documentaries. The first one intrigued me, but left nagging doubts. After doing my own research I concluded that the documentary was sloppy at best, mendacious at worst. Ditto the second. I hardly think the third will be any better. Slicker maybe, but no better. For the record, plane debris was found all over the INSIDE of the Pentagon.
robtran 4 years ago
The key to understanding the clear black op that was 9/11 is not the Pentagon, but rather WTC building 7. No rational person can look at that footage of a 47 story sky scraper collapsing completely in 6.5 seconds without noting that there must have been controlled demolition. It is the Rosetta Stone to understand all the rest of the covert op that used CD to also bring down the twin towers and the most likely AGM-86 ALCM that hit the Pentagon.
Sentinel4truth 4 years ago
What happened to building 7?
matthewgantos 4 years ago
Why were the light polls not damaged? And why was there not debris from were the wings had allegedly hit the light polls?
matthewgantos 4 years ago
The light poles were on the ground. I would call that damaged. No debris because they were only light polls.
tsycear 4 years ago
YUP and all the parts slide into a little hole INSIDE pentagon and through another hole and another concrete and another.
the question is :
ARE U THAT DUMB TO BELIEVE IT ?
doopa5 4 years ago
The Sheeple are starting to wake-up. Even 6 months ago I would get hate mail for saying what others here are saying...that it was an inside job. Now, no hate mail. 2008, will be the year when all living hell breaks loose and even the most braindead will begin to question the matrix of illusion.
diamondman007 4 years ago
That's because it's been proven over and over that all these conspiracies are false. If you want the truth, look for facts, not a well edited youtube video. Less and less people care about your comments because they know you are in an even smaller minority then you were 6 months ago.
tsycear 4 years ago
tsycear is in a smaller and smaller minority,the one that still thinks 19 arabs brought down the towers
537semigod 4 years ago
No, I think 2 jumbo jets crashing into them did. It really is hilarious to me how elaborate these schemes of explosives and mystery planes and dissapearing passengers and cover-ups is when we consider how the mountians of evidence really makes it obvious as to what happened.
tsycear 4 years ago
which mountains of evidence? the ones that were hauled off to china to be melted away before independandt analysis could be made or the ones who were omitted from the 911 comission report?
537semigod 4 years ago
The steel was there to investigate for 9 months. There was plenty of opportunity. Also FEMA has kept a large amount of the steel and debris as evidence. All the investigating determined that the steel was in fact steel. Yes they recycled the debris, what else would they do with it?
tsycear 4 years ago
provide links please otherwise youre just talking out of one of your orifices and it smells of lies
537semigod 4 years ago
I dont understand the "no planers" having contempt for anyone else making an effort to raise questions, make a half decent "no plane" documentary and maybe people would pay some attention.
splintercell99 4 years ago
THEY MOCK YOU
JAMIEBEJUNE 4 years ago
AMAZING!
bigmnat8 4 years ago
If this movie is any good, GWB is gonna wish that he left office this year. If Hillary is the Dem nominee, she will lose for being so fucking stupid. . . . especially since she lives in NYC. Ron Paul is going to cream the Republican candidates. If this movie is any good, seven years of anger is going to come charging out. God help Bush is Cheney starts a war with Iran.
BubbaLouis 4 years ago
This is much larger than Bush, Cheney, they are merely taking orders.
We can all hope you are correct about Ron Paul, but I fear that most people will be so busy voting against the candidate they love to hate than supporting the Americas only salvation.
matthewgantos 4 years ago
If you think for one second that a WHOLE bunch of people couldn't keep their mouths shut about pulling off 911, you have to watch the Discovery Channel show "LOST WORLDS: Secret Cities of the A-Bomb." Entire cities were secretly created and dismantled after the war. 75,000 people kept their mouths shut for five years.
BubbaLouis 4 years ago
Kept their mouths shut for 5 years? So we should hear some people spilling the 9/11 beans any time now.
tsycear 4 years ago
tsycear
we do hear people spilling the beans but you accuse them of being treasonous
537semigod 4 years ago 2
No one is spilling any beans. Loose change is making up stories. When all the witnesses at the pentagon start coming forward and saying that the government made them say they saw a jumbo jet crash into the building, there might be a case.
tsycear 4 years ago
youre the only one making up stories
537semigod 4 years ago
Name one.
tsycear 4 years ago
If you are making reference to the theories of who, how, and what took place I agree that many of the conclusions are difficult to buy and in many cases seem unverifiable.
However there are some pointed conclusive facts that more than suggest that the official story is scientifically impossible. Please don't shoot the messengers, speaking for myself, the following were and continue to be the most damning evidence of a controlled demolition:
matthewgantos 4 years ago
This message board sucks! It won't let you post more than 500 characters, so the whole message would not fit.
matthewgantos 4 years ago
There is no damning evidence, let alone most damning. Otherwise someone would be damned. Send me a messege if you cant get it out here.
tsycear 4 years ago
They already have.
matthewgantos 4 years ago
this is much bigger then bush/cheney involvement. see behind the puppets,...the real people with the power never put themselves on display.
shutdownthefed 4 years ago
Agreed, I am not a religious man, but there is a Bible verse that is quite fitting. Paraphrasing, I believe it makes reference to the notion that the greatest trick the devil ever invented was convincing the world he did not exist.
matthewgantos 4 years ago
bravo. and fuck you criminal motherfuckers who murdered innocent people for pnac
matzalo 4 years ago 4
People who take the governments story need to look at how the Gov't has lied in just a few of the clips in this trailor. Bush states that no one has any clue that they would use planes, but they ran excercies on that day including planes. What can people denying the truth say about the LIES LIES LIES!!!!
lewti27 4 years ago 2
I've spoken to several people in the past weeks who are finally open to the fact that the Bush/Cheney regime is evil enough to have carried out 9/11. And once they are open to the possibility, the facts speak for themselves. These people now believe that the official version of 9/11 is a lie. They want to know the truth about 9/11!
gordonblimey66 4 years ago 6
You all need to pay closer attention to the window washing unit that was ASCENDING the north face of Building 7 on the morning of 9/11, during the time of the attacks. Don't you think it would have made more sense to lower the unit to the ground rather than pulling it all the way to the top of a 47 story building? Wonder why that was....hhhmmmm??
SivanKurzberg 4 years ago
got a link? thanks...
planetfrog 4 years ago
The window washers get on and off at the roof. It probably didn't even descend to the floor.
tsycear 4 years ago
Now this seems to be high quality.
alchemist2012 4 years ago
WAKE UP PEOPLE,ITS TIME!!!!
onegin101 4 years ago 2
Bile Oh'Really will be frothing at the mouth over this one.
"A country that hides something is a country that is afraid of being caught" -- George Bush
loginregional 4 years ago 6
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I'm with you in spirit but this trailer is a mess...confusing and leaves no impression whatsoever of real questions...horrible job on the trailer...I hope the movie isn't this confusing...
GeneKalmes 4 years ago
'interNMENT
jonbcaliman 4 years ago
The morons who applaud when a truth-teller is forcibly ejected from a 'public' gathering are the same ones who will applaud and bleat their rapturous approval when they are off-loaded from rail cars into the new FEMA interment camps.
jonbcaliman 4 years ago 5
I agree that people need to be more open to new ideas; however you cannot expect people to listen and or embrace your ideas by name calling. Keep in mind that even the majority of the 911 truth movement bought the official story to some degree or another at one point.
matthewgantos 4 years ago