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  • i watched a longer documentaion style video of this on youtube, but dont know what to make of it. who can prove 100% that this is real? the fact that it was some sort of livestream?

  • Best UFO footage to date...thank you.

  • We HAVE to be the low class poor neighborhood of this section of the Milky Way. We fight amongst ourselves, pollute the world, and use nukes on the surface of our own planet. I bet the lock the doors when they fly past our planet.

  • nice change of trajectory....

  • I can't stop watching this video. It really makes even the hardest skeptic question the existence of unexplained phenomena. Incredible footage IMO.

  • @007bond66 lol hey bond, its a projectile. we shot at u guys. good thing u werent in it. i know ur a good reptilian hybrid as so as your guardians. u own 80 acres of lakes and other awesome things. also, do u have any pets that are like u? nice, sweet, and a genius?

  • @MIDEVILTACO1 lol i said it was a projectile shot from pine gap. and i meant to say hybrid clone. i go on reptilian videos. So it was a mistake. and yes i know what a reptilian is. a alien and a animal. reptilian aliens have thick cheeks, big noses and blink independly. u dont look like a reptilian to me. and since u know so much and ur a genius then, does your ufo or saucer anything of transportation that floats, does it time travel back? does it restart a car if the floating object goesover it

  • @MIDEVILTACO1 i would like to no. do u know how you can time travel? well i do.

  • guys this is pine gap. code named: "Merino". It is in Australia and they have a huge railgun. this is from 1963 and it has been upgraded. The new one is better.

  • This is awesome footage - why dont those that know tell those that dont so for once humanity can all be equal and finally together move forward - wtf. Makes me sad.

  • It's not a laser it's HAARP being fired at the ufo's . it either coming from Alaska or Russia only two places HAARP is located

  • what year was that video recorded?

  • @BloodReaperz911 wow! like wtf!!! and i thought it was 1991, blew my mind away..

  • Whoever said this is a lie because the government said so please shut your computer down, proceed to the nearest cliff, and jump off of it.

  • @007bond66 totally agree, but not sure if this shots come from either pine gap or deep space station 41 (DSS-41)

  • @mikejones8899 this was pine gap

  • This "energy shots" come from a us military base in australia DSS

  • the shooters were humains or reptiliens ?!

  • @brahim121985brahim humans!! they were shooting reptilians. bond is one too. 007bond66.

  • If people want to say this is debris being pushed away fine. But in space one something is pushed its stays that course until its effected by another. The object in the video moves just right before the bright flash, as if it were expecting it. It the speeds away in a sweeping loop motion. That's not gravity, that intellegent control.

  • it looks like it was moving away from a hunk of debris not an imaginary "pulse weapon"

  • lol you spelt weapon wrong :)

  • FRAUD. Sped up footage of a non event. Do the research.

    p.s.

    I have seen a ufo and know they are real. Disinformation does no one good.

  • @velveetaslingshot

    Sped up footage a of a non event?

    That doesn't make any sense.

  • I love how " that's what the government said " is a valid argument for the statement to be a lie.

    Therefore propose that people don't exist because the government suggest that people exist. I will also ignore the evidence around me of said people existing. It's clearly a conspiracy theory.

    Seriously, you're wrong. And rationally, if other civilisations have the tech to get here do you really think we would be able to see them when we're making baby steps in visible stealth tech already?

  • cont.. This is why I said maxbowser comment was rational, because it is. When you weigh up the options of what this video shows it becomes apparent.

  • cont.. An alien civilisation that is advanced enough to have solved the problem of interstellar travel, probably moving through wormholes/bending space time etc would be on a level so advanced in comparison to us that it does not bare thinking about. To think these shots prove we are in some secret intergalactic battle with aliens in ridiculous.

  • Uhhh this is called the thrusters of the shuttle going off, and the debris around the thrusters being pushed away.. you retards are friggin stupid if you think this is a UFO.

  • @nbamock These are intelegentley controlled spacecraft, either terrestrial or extra-terestrial............

  • @nbamock These are intelegentley controlled spacecraft, either terrestrial or extra-terestrial in origin,obviously............If you believed what you were told by nasa, you must be really stupid..as they are not alowed to communicate with or to the public about anything to do with classified technology or evidence of E.T they have to explain these thing's away

  • damn we missed it.....

  • both paticles are much closer to the camera than it looks. they're just ice or something. the light is a thruster burning. the tiny paticles thrown out from that push both particles, the one that was out of shot and closer to the thruster faster.

  • @maxbowser

    RIGHTTT ..thats what the Government said too.

  • @maxbowser good to see there is some rational people lurking round on youtube.

  • @thegarbeen What's rational?  An interselar traveler is just as rational as debri,,,were do you think the shuttle was when it's booster's were ignited may i ask?

  • @bloty02 I believe in extraterrestrial life, I beleive that there is probably intelligent extraterrestrial life,but think about this carefully, on this earth nations with superior technology can move into lands without the same level of technology and take over with superior force with relative ease.

  • Oto dowód, jak dzielna armia USA potrafi obronić Ziemię i odstraszyć ciekawskich przybyszów oraz popędzić im kota. Teraz wiemy, że ochrona przed atakiem ZSRR działa b. sprawnie. Musimy zatem zabiegać o opieką USA przed zagrożeniem atomowo-rakietowym.

  • Is there a reason this video doesn't work anymore wink wink.

  • If its a plasma weapon, why don't use it the army? One shot with this shit and the enemy is sublimateing... ???

  • @leejordan001 because they dont want it to become public that we have this weapon.

  • That's right E.T., you better fucking run.

  • what ever it was, it definantly was reacting to the flash that preceded the lazer or what ever was shot at it. that shows it was intelligent in nature. not just random space junk floating around.

  • @chaosad09

    Exactly!

    The speed it was going at was incredible, faster than what we have today..publicly known technology anyway.

    I notice how there is very little media reference to NASA's secret jet currently on it's way to Phobos the rumoured hollow space station.

  • @TigerMilitia unfortunately they arnt talking.

  • that was the night i FIRED MY LAZAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR

  • by the way chessman: if you think this was orientation stablizers firing and the "craft" was space junk then you truly are a retard.

    it amazes me that people want to rationalize their views so much they resort to swamp gas and other nonsense when the truth is staring them in the face.

    this planet is being watched closely by aliens- probably an alliance of alien races and they don't want any other species or race in on the action. 

  • @nootaramus

    Yep, i think we are in a Quarantine zone and part of a war.

    We have the "bad" aliens so.. the greys/draco reptilians(not terran reptilians)/Mantis. and the good guys.

  • the wrong assumption is that humans fired the pulse weapon. more likely scenario is that the aliens already here warned off the approaching ship and let them know this planet is off limits. I imagine the approaching vessel had a sensor alarm which indicated something like a "radar tracking lock" on their vessel. they knew that they had seconds to redirect. which they did.

    I don't think the Us or Russia has the plasma beam weapon seen here. definitely a UFO and definitely it was shot at.

  • @nootaramus

    Could be.. the aliens on this planet are the ones conspiring with our governments in the above top secret facilities.

    The reason we had such a huge boom in technology since the first modern UFO stories from 1800's-present is because of human trading.

    275,000 people disappear from the UK every year(imagine the world!), only 70% are seen again. The missing can't all be murders,kidnaps and slavery.

    If that is the case then the bad ET's scared away the good ET's.

  • If aliens kept shooting at me when I visited their planet, I'd leave them the fuck alone.

    I wouldn't make contact with the natives for fear of having my fucking throat cut.

    And people wonder why they just don't drop in and say "Hi !"

    Is that the sound of a gun being cocked ?........

  • @zid00001

    Thats the reason i hope they land in the UK at least then they won't be murdered like what most of the US population would do.

  • @TigerMilitia yea if they land in the uk and start killing u fags then who are you gonna call not the ghostbusters bitch your gonna call U.S!

  • @sjbbraves78

    Shhhhhhh

    We created you.

  • @zid00001 - They are here already. We are to be exterminated under the veil of a corrupt world government

  • This electric beam could reach 200 miles in 1934.Today improved to perfection.

    Tesla was the inventor,allthough many believe he couldn't invent all of his inventions without Extra-Terrestrial influence.Which also means we KNOW the existence of UFO'S ( which is a wrong description ) ,and they know about us.

    Now that part is interesting.

  • @MrSlaywood Directed energy, presumably heat ( infrared ) radiation was already used to torture as early as 1908 in Germany. Check out chapter

    Psychiatrie --> Zur Klinik der Narkolepsie

    on my homepage. If you click on the flags you get a translation.

  • this is why nasa stop airing this on tv

  • "Whoa! That planet is fucking hostile!"

  • @666KyuubiKid666

    Fuck this shit, we're going back to Galkon IV and bringing our entire navy.

  • Plasma Weapon????

  • Excellent catch!...Thank you very much!...Best wishes!...( Oleg.

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  • Weapon Location:Pine Gap,Alice Springs Australia. ?

  • Its the Yeerks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • wepon wepon we we pon pon wepon wepon

  • Nooooooo little UFO come BACK!! COME BACk!!! lol

  • I reckon if we all believe we'll be shown. I also reckon Jewloco is very funny, I'd lol if i could..

  • I reckon if we all believe we'll be shown. I also reckon Jewloco is very funny, I'd lol if i could.

  • The majority of the world believe (due to what they have been told) in one god, its much easier to keep control by keeping it simple. One god,One mind, One possibility, This minimises the risk of people thinking for themselves and keeps a nice tight control over the population. However, we are entering a new phase and life is changing. Soon people are going to realise just how much they have been dumbed down,duped and deceived....They are going to be VERY angry. BEWARE OF FALSE GOD(S)

  • Ice crytals do not move in space like that. And fotoage looks as its from a outside camera.

  • The flash thats seen is orientation stabilizers firing, The "ufo" is a piece of reflective space junk close to the camera that was propelled away by the stabilizer. The "Missile" is a random meteor. People are dumb.

  • @chessman21 Maybe I´m dumb but I´m a little bit concern about a thing: If the stabilizer was propelled away the space junk, is it possible to explain the greater aceleration between 0:12 and 0:20? I mean, it seems to me that it actually acelerates more after the first aceleration, and deacelerates latter. As you put it, the maximum speed should be at first of all and from that deacelerates to the final speed. Just saying, sorry my english.

  • @chessman21 meteor shooting from earth? hahahhahah

  • STS-45. Beautiful.

  • i bet the ufos shit themselves lol

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  • @arnodoz UFO IS NOT SCARED OF SHIT!

    UFO ARE POWERFUL AND UNCOMPARABLE

    THE UFO LAUGHED!

  • @afrikanbadboy

    they saw it before they shot. Telacanesis.

  • hey, we'll make great pets.

  • @JewLoco LOL

  • @JewLoco LOL as well. and at chessman21, but for very different reasons.

  • @JewLoco LOL as well. and at chessman21, but for very different reasons.

  • this has be debated to weather it is ice or a surface to air protection i believe it is what it looks like......

  • UFOs exist and are among us!!! open your mind for a different view of reality!!! watch?v=H_K2U8cnxfY

  • To ALL who posted a comment to this OLD video, I remember the day when this was aired on the 6 O'clock news I have the original broadcast with the ACTUAL audio from the astronaut doing the recording from the shuttle. It aired only once that I know of with the actual audio and I just happen to be lucky and recorded it on a VHS when it aired. When you hear the voice of the astronaut, your eye's will open. I will try to find the video and post it, in its original unedited form.

  • @Darkskies1911EMP40 Yes please do because I remember it to and this is what it is. Either it is russian/american space war or truly aliens. Or time travel. Could be us from the future. This is what it is who need more proof

  • @Darkskies1911EMP40 hi, did u ever find it? would be interesting to hear. cheers.

  • Funny how when we learn to shoot them down is around the same time all this secrete intelligence rumors conspire to.

  • Notice how at 0:11 a flash occurs when the merkabah(Ezekiel 1) interfaces with the SDI shield. The illuminati ground based beam weapon uses those co-ordinates to aims its fire, but misses badly due to the amazing maneuverability inherent in all merkabahs. The "pilot" also seems to know they are about to fire before it actually occurs by a few seconds!!!

  • The chances of "aliens" showing up just in time for 2012 +/- 2 yrs. is about ZERO, but there is a 100% chance something pretending to be "aliens" is coming to help set up the anti-Christ's 7 yr. New World Order. Listen to Hawking, avoid these fake "aliens" at all costs! They really are the grigori - the most evil fallen watchers of Genesis 6 and the book of Enoch- returned to wreak havoc in these last days. Google Image: Dogu or wandjina

  • If its SDI or not, this was the last live broadcast from space that NASA has shown. Also the area that the Missle/energy pulse/whatever, came from what is an American funded and ran, highly restricted base in Australia.

  • Looks like small chunks of ice to me. The blast is likely a thruster. The high speed chunk was closer to the blast (expanding air in a near vacuum) and moves faster as a result.

    Not much to see here :\

  • @sanarkhos this is in space....so no air last time I checked.

  • @Wulfbaine05

    Well no shit sherlock, hence "in a near vacuum". But guess what happens when you use thrusters? Hell, how on earth do you think thrusters work? Ever hear of Newton's 3rd law?

  • @loucanola Disgusting, that's how good your spelling is.

  • @loucanola You call me stupid. Nice grammar and spelling.

    You keep practicing that.

  • @loucanola Retard. Once again where is the launch site? How do they launch it on SECONDS notice? We don't have the power to do this. This would've been found out long ago. My bad for not living in Australia Dickhead*

    You must be really educated down there.

    Video= FAKE

  • This is illuminati firing an EM pulse weapon at one of the Lord's merkabahs (Ezekiel 1).

    Revelation 12:7

  • The illuminati are about to let you have their so called 'disclosure' that they have been conditioning you for to help bring in their evil seven year New World Order just in time for 2012. Don't fall for this staged invasion by the grigori (Google Image: dogu or wandjina). Don't take the PositiveID/verichips nor Somark RFID tattoos. Take this from a former atheist scientist, get saved while you still can!

  • @AlienshateU You obviously live a boring, sad life. Get some friends, hang out. If this stuff is somewhat true, do you really want to look back before you die and see that you wasted your life in fear of this. Trying to warn others instead of LIVING life? Nothing lasts forever. Atoms don't. NOTHING. Life doesn't. Freedom is the same. America, the world will end eventually. What is it to worry about? LIVE YOUR LIFE. You only get ONE. And if this never happens, think of how you'll feel then.

  • 23 47 55.91"S

    133 44 15.05"E

  • What I would like to know is seeing that we have a weapon against UFO's that travel this speed (it left earth in a second and was heading into space VERY FAST) why wasn't there GROUND BRAKING news? THIS WOULD HAVE BEEN FOUND OUT ALREADY.. the launch site would be black all over. Where's the rocket trail? How is this launched on a minutes notice? Idiots. Sorry but just stupid people.

  • yungcrip63 I know , was taking the piss, realize they , it ,whatever have been around since before true man arrived on the scene :-}

  • something is going on , why don't they just land in a capital somewhere and say " we're here " and don't say we're not ready, not enlighten enough, blah blah , we're humans , we fight , lie, steal ,we kill , we dream , we imagine , we love , we are humans, thats us ,love us or kull us do it so we can move on as a race

  • @TheAntz63 cuz their not that kind of aliens as u think my firend its the watchers theyve been here wayy yyy before us

  • mush was here

  • it's just played in reverse

  • The real meanings behind the Kardashev scale propaganda tool-

    Type I - New World Order man (ex: TR-3B astra)

    Type 2 - fallen watchers/grigori (ex: vimana/vailixi)

    Type 3 - God and His loyal angels ( ex: Merkabah)

    Other classifications:

    Reptilians= fallen archons

    Greys= fallen watchers/grigori (short, tall, the orange)

    Nordics= Aryan men/women (&nephilim)

    How will they explain their stench of sulfur? My guess is they will say they are sulfur based instead of carbon.

  • This is a video of an illuminati ground based E-M pulse weapon firing at one of the Lord's merkabahs.

  • The chances of "aliens" showing up just in time for 2012 +/- 2 yrs. is practically ZERO, but there is a 100% chance something pretending to be "aliens" is coming to help set up the anti-Christ's 7 yr. New World Order. Listen to Hawking. Avoid these fake "aliens" at all costs! He use to help at S-4 and other D.U.M.B.s around the world and knows exactly what they really are: the most evil fallen watchers/grigori of Genesis 6 and the book of Enoch- returned to wreak havoc in these last days.

  • @th3w4tchm3n Those stories were made up by the church because they knew they would loose their power over the people some day. And Hawking is a disinformant. You should listen to what the vatican astronomers have to say, that it's okay to look at any alien life as our distant cousins. It would be an insult to your god to say he would limit himself to life on a single planet. Or that we could reach either heaven or hell by spaceship, get real.

  • @HollandTechno Did you just tell me that the church made this up and then turn around and tell me to then listen to the Vatican?

    The Bible warns of this 2 Thessalonians 2:9-12 and Zechariah 5. The vatican is about as Christian as the Masons are... NOT! Read Revelation 17 to see the truth about the pretend church on the seven unholy Palantine hills that rides the beast.

  • @th3w4tchm3n I'm just naming one part of what the vatican says that I can agree with. It's all just a poor attempt to include the aliens into their believes, but we should look at them as our distant cousins. In fact it were their ancestors that once said 'let us make men in our image'. All religions are false... Read the Talmud Jmmanuel if you're ready for the truth for you won't find it in the bible.

  • @HollandTechno The Talmud is a contrivance only to try to force Jews not to accept Yeshua ha'Mashiach. It is also very racist. Ask yourself these things before and after so called disclosure: Why would they come light-years just to denounce Christ? Why do they smell of sulfur? Why do they resemble the ancient depictions of the watchers/igigi/grigori/wandjin­a? What are the chances of them coming in time for 2012 and the NWO(and support it)? Why do they want everyone chipped?

  • @th3w4tchm3n If they support the NWO, why would the secret government be shooting them down? You say angels & demons, I say good aliens & bad aliens. The fact that they've been here in large numbers since the first atomic bomb, the fact that we (secret gov) have been shooting them down and the fact that there has been no retaliation tells us enough.... If they were hostile, we wouldn't be having this discussion. Humans are supposed to be spiritual, not religious.

  • @HollandTechno They are shooting at (but missing badly) the Lord's Merkabahs (Ezekiel 1). They will say the grigori are Type 2 greys and the Lord's angels are Type 3. They will try to trick man into fighting the Lord like in this video where they are firing on a Merkabah with a ground based weapon.

  • @HollandTechno aliens have visited earth since the dawn of time to say they are gods and such is stupid

  • @anubis8181 Well, that's exactly my point... Visitors once came here and created us. Than the visitors were Gods, than it was just 1 God. And to top it all of they claimed this one God to be the creator not only of mankind, but of the Earth and even of the universe... They were way off with that one.

  • @HollandTechno could be true cant prove it wrong just as much evidence that its true just as the people believe in the bible not much evidence there either but people follow it blindly and look at people like me with disgust cuz my mind is more open to possibiltys that maybe a alien race jump started our evolution.I hear of more ufo sightings than angel and what not sightings makes ya wonder.

  • @anubis8181 Think about it, if 3000 years ago a light came down from the skies people would drop to their knees in worship... Now, if a light comes down, people are like 'look, a UFO' (if it's not something we already know) If you take away the theological and symbolic views that were given to ancient texts, you end up with stories that read like science fiction. And their from a time when writing was new and I doubt the first thing they wrote down would have been fairytales.

  • @HollandTechno true maybe one day the truth will be revealed...I live in a small region of texas that has had alot of ufo sightings in the past couple of years.Ive seen somthing the other night not sure what it was but it was out of place from what stars and planets Im used to seeing and the fact it was moving threw out those explantions...Im former military and was used to seeing craft in the sky but that night I was puzzled on the indentity of what ever it was.but I do keep my mind open

  • @HollandTechno they are imperial germans. that is why the nwo is trying to shoot them down.

  • @TheNewMusicNetwork you think its they aryan scienctist and greys ?

  • Learn about the Fermi Paradox.

    Also read: If The Universe Is Teeming With Aliens ... Where Is Everybody? by Stephen Webb (now available on Google Books)

  • Don't take the RFID REAL IDs, implantable PositiveIDs/verichips, nor Somark tattoos. [Revelation 13:16-18]

    Search "masonic child chip program"

  • @AlienshateU

    lol

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  • The fake alien invasion to bring in the antichrist's 7 yr. New World Order is coming very soon. The sheep that fell for the fake moon missions will swallow this one even more. DON'T FALL FOR IT! Genesis 6 & Book of Enoch 2 Peter 2:4 & Jude 6 Amos 9:2 (Phil Schneider) 2 Thessalonians 2:9-12 Zechariah 5 Obadiah 4 Revelation 12:7 (Hint: The gray grigoris' stench of sulfur gives their real identity away every time) Get saved while you still can! The watchers are back!
  • @AlienshateU The fake religious invasian to bring the world to an end in 7 yr. New World Order is coming very soon. The sheep that fell for all the fake religions will swallow this one even more. DON'T FALL FOR RELIGION!

  • YOU MUST AWAKEN FROM YOUR ILLUMINATI INDUCED CONDITIONING!

    The chances of actual "aliens" showing up on earth just in time for 2012 +/- 2 years is about 1 in a googolplex! Learn about the Fermi Paradox. Remember that the Luciferian H.G. Wells not only wrote War of the Worlds but also the hideous work entitled The New World Order. If not aliens, what really are they?

    THE WATCHERS

    Google image: dogu/jomon statues

    Do NOT take the mark of the beast!

    Google: Somark & Verichip Corp

  • That looks an awful lot like some piece of space junk. The "blast" was probably a brief engine burn that rotated the craft upward, as you can see by the planet going out of view slowly.

  • @mpn1990 Go and study some Physics, objects don't move like that in space unless a force is acted upon it. This is probably the most compelling evidence of UFO's there is. To not believe in them in this day and age is quite simply nieve and delusional.

  • @mirr1984

    cut it be video about meteors played backwards?

    (meteors are rocks that are falling from the skies, so if you play it backwards, it appears like a rising UFO)

  • @gnaaade Meteors don't do 90 degree turns. ;-)

  • @mirr1984

    hmm you got a point!

  • @mirr1984

    I agree. This is def the most compelling vid I have ever seen to suggest that the yanks are developng high tech weapons as well as the existence of UFO's. That object was pulling G's that would of crushed a human and what ever left the earth must of been travelling at like mach 20+

  • fuck top secret man... when this shit  hits the breaking news then call it a fucking top secret1!!! FYCK YOU!

  • le immagini parlano da sole...

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  • onsube el video es de la tierra y esta filmado en el espacio porque lo dice la nasa. que no te queden dudas de que es verdadero. tu escepticismo es muy bueno. no digo que sea un rayo ni que sea una nave, digo que da que pensar y que si eres capaz de dar una explicacion razonable

  • Only alien technology is able to stop mid-air and go into another direction at 45 degrees!!!

  • So let me get this straight: you see a grainy picture of a white dot floating around with a white line passing near it and you immediately believe it is "alien technology". Where's the logic in that?

  • Well, point me to a video here on YT showing a man-made aircraft that can stop mid-air and shoot at incredible speed at 45 degrees in a fraction of a second.

  • How do you know it's an aircraft? How do you know it shows anything artificial? How do you know it's even in space? What makes you think that lighter shaded area is a planet or that white line is an energy beam?

    The thing is, you don't. If you want to imagine it's a UFO being shot by an energy beam, then you will see it as such.  If you want to imagine it's something else, you'll see it as something else. It's just not detailed enough to come up with any valid hypothesis.

  • @Onsube This is a live feed from NASA. The feed was intercepted by Martin Stubbs a cable TV station manager. That's how we know it's space/earth. Does this prove that it's alien? No. But NOTHING known to the general public to date can travel that fast in space (which can equate to several hundred thousand miles/hour) then stop and take off in another direction...the G forces alone would destroy whatever it was.

    That being said, how is this possible? No one knows. It's an anomoly.

  • You're still assuming that it's distant from the camera. It could be a particle that's close to the camera, but apparently people are more interested in pretending it's an alien spaceship.

    Not only that, but if people were observant enough and not so focused on using this as their half-assed "PROOF OF ALIEN LIFE", they'd realize that the origin of the flash and the origin of the "beam" fired by the "ground-based energy pulse wepon" are completely different locations.

  • At no point did I say that this was an alien spacecraft. No where did I indicate that I was biased on your side or the other. I even said "does this prove it's alien? NO!"

  • What I did state are facts. Nothing but. It's fact Martin Stubbs captured this live feed from a nasa transmission.

    Nothing can travel in space or our atmosphere at those speeds and turn that rapidly. (For sh*ts and giggles sake, assuming it is a spacecraft.) that's fact.

  • Again, I state that I'm unbiased, I am skeptical to this video. You and many others who've said it over and over again, "this is dust" and that could be true. But then you would be assuming yourself that it *IS* a dust particle or that this object is close to the camera.

  • What I'm getting at is, you're right there is no proof it's alien, but there's no proof it's dust either. So I remain open minded and skeptical, because I think it's half-assed naive to think that we're the only intellegent beings in an entire universe this big.

    Forgive the multiple replies, I buggered up a copy and paste to accommodate for the character limit.

  • I'm not saying aliens don't exist, I'm saying that it's really ridiculous to come to a conclusive decision that this video shows an alien being attacked by a laser weapon.

    Normally, I would agree with you that one should not dismiss potential possibilities simply because they're extremely improbable, but if I applied the "There's no proof it isn't, so it could be true" principle to -everything- I saw, I could never create a logical, feasible decision about anything.

  • I do agree with you that aliens probably exist somewhere, I just don't agree with this being "obvious proof" or even "slightly kind of proof" that aliens exist, just like I wouldn't believe God existed just because someone has a grilled cheese sandwich shaped like Jesus or whatever. It's perfectly possible that there -is- a supreme deity, but a single, questionably verifiable event is not going to be "proof", especially when it can be otherwise easily faked.

  • So I find the possibility that this is -not- an alien getting shot at by a laser beam greater than the possibility that this is an alien getting shot at by a laser beam, and taking the greater possibility than the other, I'm going to conclude that it is my personal opinion that this does not depict an alien getting shot at by a laser beam, just like one would conclude that a grilled cheese sandwich shaped like Jesus does not validate the existence of a supreme deity.

  • You're absolutely right, I don't believe that this is a laser weapon, but I don't know what nasa or our governments are capable of. Far fetched, yeah, it probably is but that's why I won't comment further about that.

    But I'm not saying apply that theory to everything. Because you're right, we'd never have a logical answer for anything. We have logical answers for large percentage of things that happen on earth because we encounter

  • them, study them, recreate it to which allows us to have the logical answers.

    But this is something that you or I have no idea what it is because we've never been in space to see what things are, how they work and why they're there. So it's unfair for both of us to say it is or isn't something as there's no study based on this situation.

    Logic tells us that it's just thrusters igniting and it's dust being blown quickly past the camera. Physicists in another video says no, while some say it is.

  • And I know your point is how can someone say this is proof when there's too many variables left in the equation. To which, this video is chalked up to someone unwilling to see both sides of the coin and jumping to an easy answer.

    This is why I will always be skeptical until there's no doubt in my mind and everyone elses.

  • y otra cosa igual de rara es el fogonazo que se ve seguido de un rayo ?

    and other equally strange thing is the flash which is followed by a lightning?