wow not a single mountain bike lol all were like schwinn old people's bicycle hahahaha if i were there i would rock the cyclist on my goped and eletric scooter which is for snow
Where is the snow this year?! We moved from California to Utrecht a few months ago and were hoping for our first ever white Christmas...maybe next year!
@kfrdrck we didn't have a white christmas in about 40 years, then we had two in a row. This one was green again. As was to be expected. But the winter can still turn very cold until the end of February or even in March.
@kfrdrck It might still come.. Just 3 or 4 years ago (don't quite remember) we had snow until march.. But yah, I have to admit, so far it's been a very mild winter.
I come from Utrecht and the only simple reason we travel on bicycle is because its faster. Our city center is so old that it is almost impossible to go trough it with a car. From the part of the town I live, it wil cost me 30 minutes to the center with a car, 20 minutes with the bus and only15 minutes with my bicycle :D!
If only Australian governments spent a fraction more providing better cycling infrastructure rather than new freeways and tunnels for cars. We need to adopt cycling as a normal part of life, not something only those wearing Lycra and riding road bike do.
Do the Dutch understand that the non-motorist lifestyle is very healthy and something money can't buy? or are they more like Americans who "think" money can buy health? and only bike because of the culture, goverment and taxes?
Minneapolis, MN, USA has some bicycle infrastructure, but it is for recreational use and is treated as so... Shutting it down without warning, not maintianed year round and often does not lead to any business, stores or houses....
@cyclenut We obviously know it's more healthy.. I don't think anyone believes in buying health o.o (how does that work??..).
But that's not the main reason why we cycle. We cycle because it's fast and most of all it's just part of our culture. When you don't have to leave the city, you automatically take the bike and don't even think about your car.
Buying a car in NL is useless. Cities are so small and with so many bike paths you can go anywhere (e.g. Maastunnel in Rotterdam!). Trains always allow you to board it. Parking fees for cars are so damn expensive!!!! (like 50c for 13 minutes!!!!!). Buying a car to live in a dutch city is nonsense.
КЛАСС но как то все по правилам,а я так не люблю,главное не создовать не удобств другим хоть по встречке, НО ПОКА В РОССИИ ТАКОГО НЕТ г.Обнинск создан для велосипеда даже велосипедные дорожки есть, 15 лет назад я ездил,как белая ворона,а сейчас ляпота,и дпс мозг не парит,только я за габариты на всех байках.
@markenlei Heb net de route gefiets, de hele 14 kilometer naar huis met het Leidseveer zo ongeveer als beginpunt.... zag er toch wel zo ongeveer hetzelfde uit.
Yeah very funny this all, cycling in the snow, but it sucks when you fall of your bike because of the snow like i did today.. Fucking headache the whole day..
To bad i wasnt cycling there wouldve been funny to see me in this video clip. You should shoot around the stadium once and see all the students on there bike and compare those to the people going with the bus.
So civilized and awesome! I wish my country was more like this. Here when it snows this little, people will make all kinds of excuses not to get to work.
There is no way so many cars could safely move through such a small intersection, even in ideal conditions, let alone in snow. What will it take for the U.S. to become sufficiently sane and civilized to have something even approaching this?
this is would be great in Wi/MN - except I pulled up Netherland's average temperatures during the year and the average lows in January are around 30F (highs in the 40's). That's a slightly different bike ride than in say, -20F and windy with 1 - 2 feet of snow. summer is milder than here too - we can get into the 90's+ which again is a different bike ride (in your work clothes) than say 72F (average high of Amsterdam in July)
@apboyce To keep from being sweaty, yeah, I a shower at work would be nice...but in all honesty, these folks are nto riding like they are in a race. They ride in a mellow, easy, civilized manner. Here in the USA we think "Lycra" style.
@hablerz I’m from Holland, and I made a really nice bike tour in San Francisco from South Market via Fishermans Wharf around the Golden Gate Bridge and back through Golden Gate Park. And I’m fat! So stop complaining :).
@DuallyDieselFord No dangerous cars at our home in Portland, OR. One can very easily carry an infant, a child or 2, or 3 children on a bike. There is so many great seats available out there.
"Cycling in the Netherlands is much safer than in the USA. The Netherlands has the lowest non-fatal injury rate as well as the lowest fatality rate, while the USA has the highest non-fatal injury rate as well as the highest fatality rate. Indeed, the non-fatal injury rate for the USA is about 30 times higher than for the Netherlands.
Injury rate per million km cycled: USA 37.5; NL 1.4
Fatality rate per 100 million km cycled: USA 5.8; NL 1.1"
@IJsko I'm sure this is due to a great infrastructure. Good job from an American. Even though I think some of the larger US city's mindsets are already adopting this model ( look@ ATL's beltline.org ) . I only know of the Beltline because I like in Atlanta, I'm sure there are others.
@nadinecarol In the hilly parts people use helmets sometimes. But Utrecht’s flat and the bike infrastructure is good so you don’t have much to fear from cars.
@nadinecarol Helmets would be over kill. The bikes have designated paths on the streets. Totally over kill. People ride with infants in front boxes sitting in a seat you might have in your living room. Nice way to be able to live.
Great video! It's really encouraging to see all these commuters going to work by bicycles. Here in Greece people believe that you can bike only under absolutely ideal weather conditions...
In the snow, you do just like you do with a car in the winter...switch tires to something with bite rather than using street tires. I find it interesting that they allow motorcycles on these paths along with the cyclists.
@geist122 motorcycles are never allowed on the cycle paths! What you see are mopeds. Less than 50cc motor capacity and they may not go faster than 30kph.
@geist122 Yeah - at least in Sweden, we winter cyclists tend to use studded winter tyres. They help you keep control of the bike when cornering on ice. Winter is actually my favourite time of year to cycle since I discovered studded winter tyres. There's something really special about the sound of snow crunching under the tyres at sub zero temperatures. Keeps you fit too!
Really, really good - "Motorized America" should watch all of these Dutch videos on a 1-hour loop. We Americans have too limited of a world view. I say that, living 40 miles from "Motor City" - Detroit.
Thank you, thank you for making this and for posting it!
Once I brought pictures of hundreds of bikes parked at the commuter train station near Freiburg, Germany back home in USA and showed them to a friend along with others where people were riding them WITHOUT a helmet. I told her that practicaly nobody ever gets hurt. She was a loud proponent of helmet use, yet she never rode. She reacted by saying with utter seriousness: they don't get hurt ONLY because they don't know the statistics... Huh?
@GoldonSilver Car drivers in Holland just respect bicycles, so helmets aren't needed :) The fatility rate is about 7 times lower than in countries like the UK, where not many people use a bike.
@GoldonSilver I don't have the time to find a link, but research from the UK pointed out that wearing a helmet subconsciously triggers cardrivers to keep much less of a safe distance, resulting in more accidents. Head-injuries due to bicycling are rather rare in the Netherlands, probably because everybody here learns to ride a bike as soon as we can walk. Note that many children DO wear helmets as do people racing bikes.
It's nice to see that this capacity of cycling can go on and they just use their common sense, unlike the huge amount of "help" we need as car drivers.
Granted, did anyone see the red light jumpers go through them lights ;) Obviously they are only there because motorists cross the route.
Wow, I wish American cities were like that. Some days I'm lucky just to see the tracks of another cyclist, but even luckier not to be harrassed by motorist... Not to mention the pollution I have to breath..
A friend recently went to Amsterdam and noted the cycling there, not much hand signalling and cyclists cutting other cyclists up on turns, quite surprised, I always thought of the Netherlands being the cycle utopia! :-( Tell me it's not really true?! ( I saw a little bit of it in the video)
I've been there myself but never noticed really bad cycling.
Amsterdam is a big city with people behaving like in big cities. Cyclists in Amsterdam are no exception. Utrecht is the 4th largest city in the Netherlands and you can see how the cyclists behave there in the rest of the movie as you watch it. I wouldn't call it bad at all, not even in Amsterdam.
Hand signaling is something we kind of lost though. You only do that when the situation is unclear and that doesn't happen very often. I do signal in one on one communication with either another driver or cyclist when you wait for each other. But that can be by a nod or head shake too.
This morning with the snow, I thought people would not cycle but drive. But like you say, it was more-or-less the other way around. I saw a moped slip and hit a tree.
wow not a single mountain bike lol all were like schwinn old people's bicycle hahahaha if i were there i would rock the cyclist on my goped and eletric scooter which is for snow
norbu1987 1 month ago
deze kerst was tegek! komt dr nu nog wat van?
Rikketje88 1 month ago
We don't use helmets probably cause our cycling culture is way older than the health&safety movements
mrispens 1 month ago
Where is the snow this year?! We moved from California to Utrecht a few months ago and were hoping for our first ever white Christmas...maybe next year!
kfrdrck 2 months ago
@kfrdrck we didn't have a white christmas in about 40 years, then we had two in a row. This one was green again. As was to be expected. But the winter can still turn very cold until the end of February or even in March.
markenlei 1 month ago
@kfrdrck It might still come.. Just 3 or 4 years ago (don't quite remember) we had snow until march.. But yah, I have to admit, so far it's been a very mild winter.
StlyDutch 1 month ago
@kfrdrck do you miss cali?
goodmood3 1 month ago
@kfrdrck We had snow end Januari and begin februari.. We had it later..
1 thing you must learn about the Netherlands, the weather here is unprodictable..
Zoza15 1 week ago
I come from Utrecht and the only simple reason we travel on bicycle is because its faster. Our city center is so old that it is almost impossible to go trough it with a car. From the part of the town I live, it wil cost me 30 minutes to the center with a car, 20 minutes with the bus and only15 minutes with my bicycle :D!
FloraInTheElevator 2 months ago
Their carbon footprint must be the size of a peanut.
MrBabolat92 2 months ago
Ha! Un neviena kājāmgājēja!!
edgarmaan 2 months ago
На это можно смотреть бесконечно как на воду, огонь и взлетающие/садящиеся самолеты.
yurrri1978 3 months ago
They must have crazy lower body strength! I bet they don't need to go to the gym either. ARE there even gyms there?
TheGodOfPegana 3 months ago
@TheGodOfPegana Ofcourse we have gyms..
Zoza15 1 week ago
If only Australian governments spent a fraction more providing better cycling infrastructure rather than new freeways and tunnels for cars. We need to adopt cycling as a normal part of life, not something only those wearing Lycra and riding road bike do.
Tapguy65 3 months ago
3:33 - 3:40 Woman in red jacket is pedaling like a boss.
HaguSlayer 4 months ago
The 1 dislike is from Jeremy Clarkson.
oliazadehali 4 months ago 6
Hang on...I'm trying to find Waldo ...
mbsk3lton 5 months ago 2
Do the Dutch understand that the non-motorist lifestyle is very healthy and something money can't buy? or are they more like Americans who "think" money can buy health? and only bike because of the culture, goverment and taxes?
Minneapolis, MN, USA has some bicycle infrastructure, but it is for recreational use and is treated as so... Shutting it down without warning, not maintianed year round and often does not lead to any business, stores or houses....
cyclenut 5 months ago
@cyclenut We cycle because it belongs in our culture. A lot of people do have a car but only use i for far distances. Depends where you live though.
Goikuchan 5 months ago
@cyclenut We obviously know it's more healthy.. I don't think anyone believes in buying health o.o (how does that work??..).
But that's not the main reason why we cycle. We cycle because it's fast and most of all it's just part of our culture. When you don't have to leave the city, you automatically take the bike and don't even think about your car.
StlyDutch 3 months ago
Buying a car in NL is useless. Cities are so small and with so many bike paths you can go anywhere (e.g. Maastunnel in Rotterdam!). Trains always allow you to board it. Parking fees for cars are so damn expensive!!!! (like 50c for 13 minutes!!!!!). Buying a car to live in a dutch city is nonsense.
marchesedesade89 6 months ago
This is the Hard reality of The Netherlands, if you dont have a car?, then use a bike and stop complaining..
Zoza15 6 months ago
mooie sfeer hoor, ik kan bijna weer helemaal ruiken hoe het is met zulk weer...
:D
fluweel2 9 months ago
I want it in my country too!!! Greetings from Slovakia :-)
battlestar8 9 months ago
Nobody wears helmets!
tylertyler82 9 months ago
@tylertyler82 why would they?
robinjonk 1 month ago
КЛАСС но как то все по правилам,а я так не люблю,главное не создовать не удобств другим хоть по встречке, НО ПОКА В РОССИИ ТАКОГО НЕТ г.Обнинск создан для велосипеда даже велосипедные дорожки есть, 15 лет назад я ездил,как белая ворона,а сейчас ляпота,и дпс мозг не парит,только я за габариты на всех байках.
FED2844 9 months ago
impressive!!
Peti0308 1 year ago
Я тоже катаюсь зимой, к сожалению у нас велодорожек нет
Hadzime123 1 year ago
Здорово! Вот бы у нас такое было...
Awesome!
Repne64Bit 1 year ago
WOW....so many people work for the USA Post Office...."though rain, snow, or the cold of night".... :-)
kauaikit 1 year ago
This one year old video is up to the minute again!
MrTheJazzcat 1 year ago
@MrTheJazzcat But last year it was the FIRST time we had snow... this year not exactly...
markenlei 1 year ago
@markenlei Heb net de route gefiets, de hele 14 kilometer naar huis met het Leidseveer zo ongeveer als beginpunt.... zag er toch wel zo ongeveer hetzelfde uit.
MrTheJazzcat 1 year ago
If they can do this in the cold of winter why can't we do it in Houston?
davidhrod 1 year ago
@davidhrod The hills?
IsaacBickerstaffEsq 1 year ago
Yeah very funny this all, cycling in the snow, but it sucks when you fall of your bike because of the snow like i did today.. Fucking headache the whole day..
bordkrijt 1 year ago
I've ridden my bike in the ice and snow before. It isn't that much harder, you just have to be more careful and watch for black ice.
CanadianQueer 1 year ago
Great ! The best country for my bike ! And for me !
When we will see this on every street ?
bog1dan 1 year ago
ебанцо, так бы в москве...
Yulia9990 1 year ago
ya ampun beda banget ama negaraku, coba klo naek sepeda semua kayak gitu... jakarta gak bakalan macet, menjadi kota bersih pula
zayrusydi 1 year ago
I suddenly feel very Christmassy......:)
TemiZee 1 year ago
95% of the bikes have full mudguards and a pannier rack... nice!
04smallmj 1 year ago 2
To bad i wasnt cycling there wouldve been funny to see me in this video clip. You should shoot around the stadium once and see all the students on there bike and compare those to the people going with the bus.
kwaniemaggie 1 year ago
what a pleasant video to watch.
pulls me right into the scene.
thank you for this.
leonjyrag 1 year ago
wow...why cant america be like this?
Bhousm76 1 year ago 5
So civilized and awesome! I wish my country was more like this. Here when it snows this little, people will make all kinds of excuses not to get to work.
peculia 1 year ago
This is great! No excuses, commuting by bike is possible all year round.
CommuteGreener 1 year ago 9
@CommuteGreener So right! I managed to keep my bike in upright position al the 14 km snow covered road home today once again. :-)
MrTheJazzcat 1 year ago
No excuses around here...
DrKarmacanik 1 year ago
zero fat people. and what about road rage? u think twice before acting stupid when your face-to-face, haha!
LostAngelesCali 1 year ago 3
There is no way so many cars could safely move through such a small intersection, even in ideal conditions, let alone in snow. What will it take for the U.S. to become sufficiently sane and civilized to have something even approaching this?
sytby 1 year ago
@sytby Very much higher gas prices, what's also needed is better passenger rail service too!
Intransitman 1 year ago
lol this looks so funny
Bartolini87 1 year ago
@Bartolini87 Funny?, this is our everydays reality..
Zoza15 6 months ago
ahh ik mis de winter =) maar dan wil ik wel weer sneeuw !
zo mooi
freakinpink01 1 year ago
I live in the United States and wish I could've been born a dutch.
SrAndresAmor 1 year ago 5
this is would be great in Wi/MN - except I pulled up Netherland's average temperatures during the year and the average lows in January are around 30F (highs in the 40's). That's a slightly different bike ride than in say, -20F and windy with 1 - 2 feet of snow. summer is milder than here too - we can get into the 90's+ which again is a different bike ride (in your work clothes) than say 72F (average high of Amsterdam in July)
apboyce 1 year ago
@apboyce To keep from being sweaty, yeah, I a shower at work would be nice...but in all honesty, these folks are nto riding like they are in a race. They ride in a mellow, easy, civilized manner. Here in the USA we think "Lycra" style.
djkenny 1 month ago
Pretty cool environment. I wish SF was more like this, but it's a work in progress.
freelancehero 1 year ago
@freelancehero Holland is flat , Bicycling around SF would give you a heart attack after 20 mins =D
hablerz 1 year ago
@hablerz I’m from Holland, and I made a really nice bike tour in San Francisco from South Market via Fishermans Wharf around the Golden Gate Bridge and back through Golden Gate Park. And I’m fat! So stop complaining :).
Grauwsaur 2 months ago
Hey, if you don't have an infant to look after, why not? It's free and good for you
DuallyDieselFord 1 year ago
@DuallyDieselFord We take our infants along with us on our bikes :P They've made special seats for that..
RainyRaven 1 year ago 3
@DuallyDieselFord Didn’t you pay attention at 0:40?
Grauwsaur 2 months ago
@DuallyDieselFord No dangerous cars at our home in Portland, OR. One can very easily carry an infant, a child or 2, or 3 children on a bike. There is so many great seats available out there.
djkenny 1 month ago
If this was in Portland, there would be dozens of calls complaining about the snow on the path, wondering when the city was going to clean it up.
googuse 1 year ago
I want to live there,so cool,but bicycle are crap
the2010Fox 1 year ago
go go Netherlands ! u r the best) God bless capitalism...
hi from Archangelsk, Russia. :-)
Jam1C 1 year ago
Amazing... I noticed noone wears a helmet at all.... I wonder why? Noone gets hurt?
nadinecarol 1 year ago
@nadinecarol
"Cycling in the Netherlands is much safer than in the USA. The Netherlands has the lowest non-fatal injury rate as well as the lowest fatality rate, while the USA has the highest non-fatal injury rate as well as the highest fatality rate. Indeed, the non-fatal injury rate for the USA is about 30 times higher than for the Netherlands.
Injury rate per million km cycled: USA 37.5; NL 1.4
Fatality rate per 100 million km cycled: USA 5.8; NL 1.1"
IJsko 1 year ago 3
@IJsko I'm sure this is due to a great infrastructure. Good job from an American. Even though I think some of the larger US city's mindsets are already adopting this model ( look@ ATL's beltline.org ) . I only know of the Beltline because I like in Atlanta, I'm sure there are others.
pria114 1 year ago
@nadinecarol In the hilly parts people use helmets sometimes. But Utrecht’s flat and the bike infrastructure is good so you don’t have much to fear from cars.
Grauwsaur 2 months ago
@nadinecarol Helmets would be over kill. The bikes have designated paths on the streets. Totally over kill. People ride with infants in front boxes sitting in a seat you might have in your living room. Nice way to be able to live.
djkenny 1 month ago
0:40, that guy's cheating.
I bet you would have to put stickers and tags and all kinds of stuff on your bike to be able to find it...
JunglePantz 1 year ago
@JunglePantz Not really, you just remember where you put it.
After forgetting a couple of times and spending 15 minutes looking for it, you make sure you remember next time.
With that, the majority of bikes look different, i always find mine by the look of the saddle combined with the colour of the frame.
lzzrd007 1 year ago 2
For me, this is normal.
ReezyardNL 1 year ago
Great video! It's really encouraging to see all these commuters going to work by bicycles. Here in Greece people believe that you can bike only under absolutely ideal weather conditions...
Thanks for the images you shared with us.
mazettas 1 year ago 4
<--- Another American envious of this way of life.
msfennell 1 year ago 2
Fantasic vid!
Hope the rest of us in the US of A can learn from this one.....
4bikeregistry 1 year ago
Its too bad there aren't more cities in America like this.
wakedonzi 1 year ago
ну, это не зима. у нас такой конец марта
bukovnikolay 1 year ago
In the snow, you do just like you do with a car in the winter...switch tires to something with bite rather than using street tires. I find it interesting that they allow motorcycles on these paths along with the cyclists.
geist122 1 year ago 5
@geist122 motorcycles are never allowed on the cycle paths! What you see are mopeds. Less than 50cc motor capacity and they may not go faster than 30kph.
markenlei 1 year ago 18
@geist122 Yeah - at least in Sweden, we winter cyclists tend to use studded winter tyres. They help you keep control of the bike when cornering on ice. Winter is actually my favourite time of year to cycle since I discovered studded winter tyres. There's something really special about the sound of snow crunching under the tyres at sub zero temperatures. Keeps you fit too!
PenisMcWhirtar 1 year ago 3
Really, really good - "Motorized America" should watch all of these Dutch videos on a 1-hour loop. We Americans have too limited of a world view. I say that, living 40 miles from "Motor City" - Detroit.
Dunkleosteus3691 1 year ago
Mooi man! :)
Intosia 1 year ago
Thank you, thank you for making this and for posting it!
Once I brought pictures of hundreds of bikes parked at the commuter train station near Freiburg, Germany back home in USA and showed them to a friend along with others where people were riding them WITHOUT a helmet. I told her that practicaly nobody ever gets hurt. She was a loud proponent of helmet use, yet she never rode. She reacted by saying with utter seriousness: they don't get hurt ONLY because they don't know the statistics... Huh?
BanoGaborius 1 year ago 3
beautiful! train is running~
hundredsheep 1 year ago
I consider bikes as an intelligent way of transport. That's why here in Brazil, people don't like them.
etkambara 1 year ago
Love this. I especially like the lack of helmet usage. Do they have statistics or information justifying this approach?
GoldonSilver 1 year ago
@GoldonSilver Car drivers in Holland just respect bicycles, so helmets aren't needed :) The fatility rate is about 7 times lower than in countries like the UK, where not many people use a bike.
Fireburn2 1 year ago 2
@GoldonSilver I don't have the time to find a link, but research from the UK pointed out that wearing a helmet subconsciously triggers cardrivers to keep much less of a safe distance, resulting in more accidents. Head-injuries due to bicycling are rather rare in the Netherlands, probably because everybody here learns to ride a bike as soon as we can walk. Note that many children DO wear helmets as do people racing bikes.
zmooc 1 year ago 2
@GoldonSilver "Do they have statistics or information justifying this approach?"
You have it backwards. Statistics are what you need to justify the use of safety equipment.
IsaacBickerstaffEsq 1 year ago
congratulations to the Dutch. such a huge step towards sustainability.
sgran44 1 year ago
huh...nobody wears helmets. Great stuff though.
nikrguy 1 year ago
@nikrguy
there is no need to wear helmets
MyChemicalJasper483 1 year ago 3
Looks like Glowbull warming to me.
HereinLasVegas 1 year ago
I have no excuse now
endocondor 1 year ago
you like
crsbavaria 1 year ago
SUPER!!
akabak 2 years ago
Greetings from the UK. This video is amazing! I've also given it 5 stars.
If only everyone in the world took more of a Dutch attitude to life, the world would be a much better place!
Broomeister 2 years ago 48
@Broomeister Why?
Ditismijnjoetoep 1 year ago
Absolutely beautiful to watch. 5 stars imo.
downfader2 2 years ago 20
It's nice to see that this capacity of cycling can go on and they just use their common sense, unlike the huge amount of "help" we need as car drivers.
Granted, did anyone see the red light jumpers go through them lights ;) Obviously they are only there because motorists cross the route.
Mr Fader - want to get married and elope?
drsquirrel0 2 years ago 2
Wow, I wish American cities were like that. Some days I'm lucky just to see the tracks of another cyclist, but even luckier not to be harrassed by motorist... Not to mention the pollution I have to breath..
cyclenut 2 years ago 4
This is so much fun to watch. I also like seeing the NS trains.
jamesbondsv 2 years ago
A friend recently went to Amsterdam and noted the cycling there, not much hand signalling and cyclists cutting other cyclists up on turns, quite surprised, I always thought of the Netherlands being the cycle utopia! :-( Tell me it's not really true?! ( I saw a little bit of it in the video)
I've been there myself but never noticed really bad cycling.
MelloVEL0 2 years ago
Amsterdam is a big city with people behaving like in big cities. Cyclists in Amsterdam are no exception. Utrecht is the 4th largest city in the Netherlands and you can see how the cyclists behave there in the rest of the movie as you watch it. I wouldn't call it bad at all, not even in Amsterdam.
markenlei 2 years ago 5
Hand signaling is something we kind of lost though. You only do that when the situation is unclear and that doesn't happen very often. I do signal in one on one communication with either another driver or cyclist when you wait for each other. But that can be by a nod or head shake too.
markenlei 2 years ago 5
@markenlei I signal with my hand when (going to) make a left or right turn.
summersonset 1 year ago
@summersonset your right! More cyclists should do that. In fac,t its the official rule to do so.
MrTheJazzcat 1 year ago
This morning with the snow, I thought people would not cycle but drive. But like you say, it was more-or-less the other way around. I saw a moped slip and hit a tree.
cride1 2 years ago