SAS man terrified returning to Forkhill South Armagh

[hollybank25]

telling lies ..there was no shooting and no body shot

[beankeef22]

Would love to see how brave Slab Murphy would be alone and unarmed in Hereford. Pussies.

[screengodess1]

These guys were professional soldiers against IRA volunteers. The SAS guy showed they can operate with a gang of other SAS but on their own ? He showed he was shit scared! the British army were out thought and out fought in South Armargh and that is the true facts.

[JMUFCCFC]

south armagh, bandit country

resistance!

[TheBoru2011]

Very few civilians were targeted by the IRA. The PIRA formed in the early 1970's to defend Catholics against attacks from the UVF, UDR, UDA, RUC, etc, etc... It can be all summed up by a Judge in an Armagh court at a show trial of 3 RUC accused of shooting 2 men at a road block ". He congratualed the "officers" on their shooting skills and said God would sort out the deceased who were from South Armagh after all... so they MUST be Shinners.

[ryanlfc85]

Fucking pussies! TAL.

[djleesus09]

@mrtnucffokcuf know more than you , tramp

[djleesus09]

@mrtnucffokcuf alright you rat i was talking to the dick below that this man was in the fucking sas

[djleesus09]

@mrtnucffokcuf fuck up you

[djleesus09]

@mrtnucffokcuf i laugh at your comment all we have to do is watch a episode of jeremy kyle fucking tramps... even the british army said they couldn't defeat the IRA and they were highly skilled

[manoutdoors]

He should have been scared. He was no better than the Germans in the 1940s.

[osomy]

Order a pizza!!!! like them silly cunts at that barracks

[osomy]

spud? That sad cunt tries to get on the telly all the time. he is a dumb prick and people around him probably know that . Fuckin retarded gay bastard. It's good the Provos shit a prick like you up.

[3tangle3]

imperialist scum

[LOYALISTMUSIC1]

Where is the SAS man?

More republican lies and shite.

[djleesus09]

@LOYALISTMUSIC1 the man talking you thick bastard he's ex sas

[LOYALISTMUSIC1]

@djleesus09 The two men in the documentary are ex paratroopers you moron, I suggest you go and watch the whole documentary then comment when you are educated on the matter.

[djleesus09]

@LOYALISTMUSIC1 i seen it a few years ago on bravo, he was a para then the english fella went on to join the sas you fucking twat

[2909josef]

up the rira cira onh

[ieyedmonster]

SPUD SOILED HIS PANTS

[BAZSLAVENovBRADFORD2]

you silly fat bastard, soldiering is worse than heroin? did you by any chance get kicked out of the army? for being a dickhead? i thought so. How anybody can expect the poor people of south armagh to feel any safer because YOU were there, i have no idea. GET THE FUCK OUT OF THEIR COUNTRY AND LEAVE THEM ALONE!!!

[WyzDat]

@mrtnucffokcuf Can't deny the facts they were, are and always will be outclassed when fighting the Irish. DID YOU SEE THE FEAR IN YOUR ELITE TROOPS EYES HA HA HA HA HA!!!!

[Sangrenegra9]

@WyzDat - yeah...because the IRA were reknowned experts in shooting people in back, kidnapping and torturing family members, setting off bombs in civilian areas and the like...so if you mean outclassing them in terms of low-class, gutter-level warfare for cowards and pussies, I definitely agree with you.

[FacnyCatFighter]

@Sangrenegra9 Many British Military tacticans would disagree with that statement.

Regarding the South Armagh Brigade, Major "M" said of them "I have a lot of respect for them.  [Their actions] weren't cowardly in the slightest. [The IRA's] tactics were clever and were carried out beautifully."

It would be disrespectful to the 1200 dead security forces to simply dissregard the IRA as having been "cowards and pussies". I'm sure the wouldn't appreciate it.

[Sangrenegra9]

@FacnyCatFighter - Oh don't get me wrong. I didn't say the PIRA weren't extremely dangerous, cunning and resourceful. It just really pisses me off when rebel blowhards and wannabes make them out to be heroic crusaders who outclassed British servicemen - it's always easy to claim tactical superiority when carrying out asymmetric warfare on land where your enemy has to obey laws, while you can just scarper over the Republic's borders any time you need to make a getaway.

[FacnyCatFighter]

@Sangrenegra9 I believe that you're under the illusion that the IRA were reckless, but I understand where you're coming from.

One thing you must understand about the PIRA is that they operated in very small units known as ASU's. The South Armagh Brigade referred to by the SAS soldier consisted of about 30 men in total at any one time. This unit covered all of South Armagh. The small size made it impossible to fight in a conventional manner, hence the uses of ambush tactics.

[Sangrenegra9]

@FacnyCatFighter - (continued) in cases where the British Army did attempt following the PIRA onto their safe turf (like when they sent plain-clothes SAS troopers), a massive political shit-storm would ensue. Hardly fair play, was it?

[FacnyCatFighter]

@Sangrenegra9 [Continued] Regarding your comment about Military organisations crossing politcal borders without consent, I think you've mistaken the IRA for a military arm of the Irish Government. The IRA was defined as a terrorist organisation by both the British and Irish Governments, of which it is subscribed to neither in any political capacity.

The British military, being an arm of the British Government, is bound by international law. They should have been embarassed for being caught.

[Sangrenegra9]

@FacnyCatFighter - The British Army wouldn't have needed to send its agents south of the border had the Republic not pretended that there wasn't a problem.

The Republic is notorious for its lax attitudes towards the PIRA - one of the more recent examples has been its unwillingness to extradite the 'Colombia Three' who were found guilty of helping train FARC guerillas.

[FacnyCatFighter]

@Sangrenegra9 The UK can't simply ignore international law at a whim. British forces could cross the border during pursuit within reason but, as with the agreement, certain protocols must be followed. British forces are expected to radio ahead to notify the Gardai of their incursion across the border.

Regarding the incident of the SAS members at Flagstaff - this was but one of hundreds of incursions. Considering the seriousness, the Irish Govt was remarkably lax in sentencing.

[WyzDat]

The horrors they experienced? What about the horrors they inflicted ...

[rulyacelt]

sas cowsards,, scum of da earth murderin bastards

[TheBoru2011]

My heart breaks for the SAS

[TheBoru2011]

SAS murdered Irish people. if you like been shot at stay home...

[Sangrenegra9]

@TheBoru2011 - The number of Irish civilians killed (usually in mistaken identity) by the SAS pales in comparison to the number deliberately targeted and murdered by the IRA.

[STOKES312]

fuckin piece of shit scumbag up thr RA

[stephenjamesfitz]

'the SOUTH ARMAGH BRIGADE will kill u quicker than heroin pal'

[antnix]

pair of cunts

[UKRedDevil88]

They were just playing it smart, they were able to have a laugh and think logically even if they were at the wrong bridge haha but still they have memories of war here, not sitting on a chair on youtube and facebook so it will affect them you bloody stupid cunts.

[matty181190]

good lad, bet he killed a lot of scum

[scotsguy77]

My grandfather was born in Forkill. is it safe enough for a tourist to go there. My grandmother is from Drumintee, is it safe enough to visit?

[itscalledhardstyle]

fuck sake this is ridiculous...

its not like members of the ira are hiding in hedges in forkhill waiting on two ex paras to come and film a documentary so they can jump out and shoot them in the head.

idiots

[kmc32]

he pissed on the wrong bridge the gutless prick, thats not killnasagart bridge

[djmarko2k11]

@kmc32 yeh it is u handicap i live right beside it u retard

[kmc32]

@djmarko2k11 well then i know who ya are cos theres only 2 houses beside it u gobshite

[adri204]

Gheeze what a couple of pussies. They should have gone in to a Pub and announced who they where and I am sure they would have gotten a real welcome. I vote for "Domino Specials" welcome lolol. I have no respect for arseholes like these two. They probly themselves killed or helped kill Brave VOL's so they can fluck off.

[peadarable]

This is not Kilnasagart bridge...

[peadarable]

This is not Kilnasagart bridge...

[djleesus09]

@CharlieSpeary INBRED CATHOLICS they brought religion and language to england and scotland

[1888pats]

Gobshites - all 3 of them.

[BlackMountainScar]

Haa Haaaa, LMBO.. The last minute is PRICELESS.. 3:58

Good Gear.

[BlackMountainScar]

@CharlieSpeary Speaking of an education...

What does boarder mean? and what are Prots?

God help England if your all they`ve got.. Racist Cunt, you wouldnt last 5 min`s in Ireland.

[BlackMountainScar]

@CharlieSpeary What da fuck would you know?

Ya Skank.. You people are thick as fuck..

You dont have to be Big and Scary to put the fear of God into people, I watched the docu. aswell and give him his dues, this guy Spud is a tough nut but he served in South Armagh and it was a bit too Hot, Ya know what a mean?..

Fuck You Charlie Speary.. TAL.

[1706angie]

OMG! Danny Dyer was in Forkhill?! I live right beside where the barracks used to be. This must have been film in the last year or so coz of some of the new houses.

[lally174]

1847 ring a bell? How about destroying a quarter of the population? Is that terrorism? NO THAT'S GENOCIDE! About 1 million people, due to English theivery and greed starved to death as a direct result of greedy English economic practices. If mass genocide by starvation due to deliberate, greedy, economical practices that resulted in the loss of 1 million innocent people is comprable to the unintentional loss of civilians I ask you who here is the terrorist? The British government is the worst

[kevinc1916]

WHEN THERES A WAR GOING ON THERES ALWAYS GONNA BE NON COMBATANTS KILLED ON ALL SIDES FACT

[kevinc1916]

WHEN THERES A WAR GOING ON THERES ALWAYS GONNA BE NON COMBATANTS KILLED ON ALL SIDES FACT

[jasonf236]

Thats fucking rite he better be shitting himself, Ireland unfree shall never be at peace you dont fuck around with the south armagh brigade even to this day. let the war go on we want our six counties back

[blackiron60]

All around the world you hear the same stories from imperialist troops whenever they encounter a people that fights back - it always freaks them out even years later. Just listen to American vets talk about Vietnam, they still shit bricks just thinking about the place.

[51wins]

@blackiron60

This guy is English, he doesn't know that things have moved on.

Protestants lived and worked in South Armagh throughout the troubles...you would also consider them imperialist yet they had no guns for protection and refused to be intimidated out during the conflict. People aren't sacred...South Armagh is British even if alot of the people don't like it.

[grigorovich07]

@51wins South Armagh ain't British, its Irish to the core and that has nothing to do with being catholic or protestant. Religion holds no ground within the Republican Movement. Catholic's and Protestant's and the list goes on. Them soldier's not wanting to stick around shows they know and even acknowledged it to be Irish.

[51wins]

@grigorovich07

South Armagh is part of the United Kingdom even if many of the people living there feel Irish or have an Irish culture..that is fact.

Religion does play apart in the Republican movement the PIRA was a sectarian organisation, that is why the PIRA was formed in the first place because they disagreed with the OIRA who said attacks on Protestants were wrong.

[grigorovich07]

@51wins Actually they viewed defending catholic areas as a wrong step. There were quite a few protestant members of the PIRA actually who wanted to stand United with their catholic and other friends and would not see them tortured by the state. Ok and you can have that fact for now its part of the UK but it is also part of Ireland fact and has majority Irish population and is Irish Soil. The PIRA were in no way a sectarian organisation unlike their loyalist counterparts.

[51wins]

@grigorovich07

Both sides were sectarian, the PIRA murdered many Protestants, around the border they forced countless numbers of Protestants out hundreds of Protestant civilians were murdered. Likewise Loyalists did the same.

To be fair there wasn't many Protestants in the PIRA haha and likewise not many Catholics in Loyalist groups, although there was some.

[grigorovich07]

@51wins The PIRA never killed based on religion. Not a single catholic would be in or have been let in a loyalist group, they killed random catholics for being catholic. You couldn't be in the orange order if you married a catholic. And there were far more Protestants in the PIRA than the state would have you believe. The original republican leader was a Protestant.

[51wins]

@grigorovich07

There was Catholics in Loyalist groups I have read a number of books some of which talk about catholic members. Good example (although not catholic) is the Shoukri brothers in North Belfast, they weren't Protestant I think they were Orthodox Christians and they were from Egypt but became leaders of the UDA.

Orange Order isn't an armed group lol so what have they got to do with this haha. Not many Prods in the IRA im sorry to inform you. PIRA was sectarian end of story!

[grigorovich07]

@51wins What a load of rubbish. The same organisation that killed people simply for being catholic yeah right, sorry i aint falling for that total Bullshit which you know it is. Who gives a damn about the bloody drug dealing shoukri brothers. Well the Orange order was the was the one flying UDA flags and of which many of their members were Active Loyalists. I know for fact there was Protestant members of the PIRA cause i know quite a lot of them on a personal basis. The PIRA aint about religion!

[51wins]

@grigorovich07

Im not trying to convience you of anything, I have said Loyalists and Republicans were both sectarian, and there was a very small number of Prods and Caths on both sides but it was tiny numbers.

Nope the Orange Order doesn't fly UDA flags, its our policy to only fly official approved flags. Possibly a band may have carried a UDA flag however that band isn't the Orange Order.

If a member of the Order was found to have links to paramilitary groups then they were told to leave.

[grigorovich07]

@51wins Told to leave...right not like when the UDA enforced a guard for the Orange Order to force its parade down the the Garvaghy Road.

Also there was no catholics on the loyalists side...none whatsoever! It was Protestant 100% What catholic would join an organisation that wanted to kill random catholics you going to tell me there were Jewish Nazi's next? Or Black members of the KKK? And let me state yet again The Republican Movement was started by Protestants and was United Irishmen.

[51wins]

@grigorovich07

If you are aware of the Drumcree Criss then you will know that Orangemen were not happy that UDA and LVF leaders/members turned up to flex their muscle. As senior Orangemen have said Drumcree was hijacked by Loyalist paramilitaries trying to make names for themselves such as Johnny Adair!

You should contact FAIR & ask them how many Protestant civilians were murdered because of their faith!

Catholics did join Loyalist groups to fight against IRA who were destroying the country

[grigorovich07]

@51wins Loyalist paramilitaries trying to make a name for themselves, alright that is pretty reasoned. The Orange Order still marched under that defense though.

Wait FAIR...right....one of the most sectarian bigoted people iv ever seen or heard in my life no thanks i am not listening to rubbish.

Yet again with the Catholic LOYALISTS. There were none.

Is everything about religion to you?

[51wins]

@grigorovich07

FAIR is a victims group who looks after hundreds of innocent victims, murdered because of their faith. What about the Shankill bombing, Enniskillen, Kingsmill, Tullyvallen, Darkley Church, La Mon Hotel.....ALL CIVILIAN TARGETS - ALL PROTESTANT CIVILIANS (to name only a few) a total of 51 Protestants killed.

Figures from the troubles suggest Republicans killed 704 civilians, Loyalists killed 633 civilians. You can't say that Republicans didn't target civilians!

[grigorovich07]

@51wins Bombs and the Shankill was meant for UDA leaders, Enniskillen was not approved by the IRA why the Fermanagh Unit were disbanded after that, Kingsmill was a brutal retalliation. All tragedys that the IRA have apologised for.

Far more Loyalist Victims were innocent though and had no connection to anything whatsoever, most of the IRA casualties were enemy loyalist leaders and British forces. Republicans did not target civilians, any cvilain life was a mistake a horrible mistake.

[51wins]

@grigorovich07

Shocking, when a bomb is planted in a chip shop full of people, those who planted it know civilians including children will be killed...that is sick.

Of course IRA leadership is going to say Enniskillen wasn't approved, but it was!

As I said in my last comment Republicans killed 704 civilians THAT ISN'T A MISTAKE clearly there was planning involved. Omagh bomb 29 people and 2 unborn children killed, and countless other attacks.

You should face facts, the world knows it!

[grigorovich07]

@51wins It was sick of the UVF to go round killing innocent people, butchering them with help from UDR and RUC is it not?

No Enniskillen wasn't or there would have been a warning. The IRA did not plan the bomb lone volunteers who acted against specific instuctions and orders did.

There was planning to try and avoid civilian life that was not an IRA aim ever. Soldiers shot people for no reason not by accident but of course they are allowed to do that right? Omagh bomb was RIRA not the Provo's

[djleesus09]

@grigorovich07 how was the fermanagh unit disbanded? the south fermanagh ira was one of the ost dangerous areas like roslea donagh lisnaskea and newtownbutler it was a monaghan unit that done enniskillen

[grigorovich07]

@djleesus09 the provisional fermanagh unit was disbanded. I never said nothing about the real's or conto's. And it was the West Fermanagh unit that was disbanded, and the monaghan unti was a split off from the East Tyrone Brigade. The Sligo Brigade of the PIRA replaced the West Fermanagh Brigade because they were disbanded because they did this against the authority of the Provisional Army Council.

[djleesus09]

@grigorovich07 yea that takes in belcoo garrison and belleek but the south fermanagh unit was never disbanded. it takes in the places i said above they even used a flying collum against the brits at derryard outside roslea.

[grigorovich07]

@djleesus09 The Derryard attack was a joint venture of the East Tyrone Brigade under the cover of the South Armagh Brigade had nothing to do with any fermanagh unit. The Provisionals Used the West Fermanagh Unit which they replaced with the Sligo Brigade.

[Sangrenegra9]

@blackiron60 - Imperialist troops? Northern Ireland is British soil. Recognised under international law. There's no comparison to Vietnam whatsoever.

[angryblackman2]

@Sangrenegra9 its not british soil getting your fucking facts straight. uneducated retard!

[Sangrenegra9]

@angryblackman2 - REALLY?! Jesus fucking Christ! All those maps I've seen were drawn incorrectly? My passport stating I'm a citizen of the UNITED KINGDOM OF GREAT BRITAIN & NORTHERN IRELAND is a very clever fake, is it? Or am I living in some sort of parallel universe?

Epic FAIL there, dickhead. Go and drown yourself before you breed and populate our planet with more thickos.

[FacnyCatFighter]

@Sangrenegra9 I know it may be a pedantic statement, but Britain includes Scotland, Wales and England.

Northern Ireland is part of the United Kingdom, not Britain. Northern Ireland is on Irish soil by that same definition, hence Eire.

[Sangrenegra9]

@FacnyCatFighter - True, but seeing as there doesn't appear to be an adjectival form of 'United Kingdom' (ever heard anyone say 'United citizens', 'Kingdom soil' or the like?), 'British' is also understood to cover land under the control of HM Government, irrespective of geographical location. Rather like how Hawaii is considered American soil despite being located in middle of the Pacific.