@eamonnbradley79 go & challenge them if u think it is shit record it & post it or u are a coward & full of shit & obviousely can't really fight if u don't
@nachoby777 yes, in a real fight you would not want to trade punches with your opponent, you want to knock him out. this is why real kung fu looks bad to the eyes, because kung fu do not have any kind of show or exhibition. also this is one reason why it will never see real wing chun in a ring or a cage. is boring to watch, is a fight not a game or a sport
@THEpillows100 any of u chowderheads who say all this go to 1 of there siminars & be just as disrespectful as u are so bravely saying any of this is bullshit & challenge them in your arogent fashion or u are the 1ns who r full of shit .& cowards at that they have siminars all over the world
@stovall1231 no i believe the style is very practical im a practioner myself , i only said that cuz the two dudes fighting in that part of the vid had long hair and should probably get a hair cut but thats just my opinion anyways i think long hair on a dude is pretty gay
Video effects and intense soundtrack are no substitute for skills. No doubt that Victor Gutierrez has skill, but how about a straight forward video showing your skill and talent rather than a hyped up vid aimed at the gun show, mouth breathing beanie baby selling Navy SEAL wannabees?
In my opion this is an art every martial artist should learn it's so basic and simple of course 1 thing i see as potential problem is size a lot of the techniques are meet straight on don't know how you going to control a very large person with this vs a smaller oponent. Of corse as martial artist this is why we choose what develops fastest and is effective for us not everyone likes this art it does not work for everyone.
1. Wing Tsung [übrigens wird im Video (EWTO) Wing Tsun gezeigt, nicht Wing Tsung] ist nicht "der größte Scheiß" -> Jedes System hat Vor- und Nachteile.
2. Fragt sich halt, wie gut du diese Kampfsportarten beherrschst. Wing Tsun ist kein Kampfsport, sondern eine SV.
3. Nein, es ist eine SV
4. Nein, KampfSPORT ist wenig zur Selbstverteidigung da und im WT wird nicht gelehrt jmd. zu töten, nur übertriebene Techniken. Töten fällt mehr ins Krav Maga.
@666AncientEvil666 so ein quatsch Krav Maga ist auch eine SV aber eben für krisengebiete bzw spezial aufträge. Das töten lernt man aufm schießstand. Davon abgesehn hab ich in dem video gar keine waffen gesehn das is sowas von unrealistisch! Also mindestens messer sollten da doch drin sein oder? Bei KM wird mit allem trainiert so wie es auch in der realität vorkommen könnte und nicht jeder angriff muss tödlich ausgehen.
@666AncientEvil666 hmm naja ich sags mal so, warscheinlich hast du recht und ich war etwas zu aufbrausend tut mir leid, viel spaß noch beim WT training dir ;)
@ronnydalia ich habe das glück bei einem der urgesteine der ewto zu trainieren und in den 35 jahren in denen er unterrichtet gab es nur 4 ernsthaftere verletzungen wie beinbruch.außerdem hat sort nichts mit sv zu tun, sonst wären auch sportschützen die besten soldaten
Ich habe auch schon gesehen das ein Europameister A Klasse Muay thai)
GLANZ UND KLANGLOS AUF DER STRAßE UNTERGING!!!Weil das eben nicht der Ring mit nem Schiri ist!!!
Was nützt dir ein Porsche wenn man ned fahren kann,
Also Leute nur weil mans selber nicht kann heist es nicht das es nicht funktioniert du armer wie untalentiert bist du wenn du nach 8 Jahren keinen Plan hast.Ich komme aus Heidelberg ich würde dich sehr gerne treffen und sehen was du so kannst und was ich kann vlt änderst d.Mein
Aber das gibt keinem das Recht zu behaupten Wing Tsun ist uneffektiv.
Du hast anscheinend vergessen oder wahrscheinlich nie gelernt.Das du deinen so gelobten boxern die Kniescheibe rausdonnern kannst oder mit paar guten Ellenbogen den halben Kopf wegbomben kannst oder mal ab und an in die Augen stechen kannst sorry ich muss so radikal schreiben wenn ich so ein Dreck lese.Ich habe Praktische Erfahrung und weiß das es funktioniert vorausgesetzt das man hart und richtig trainiert!!!
Wie kannst du so ein Scheiß erzählen WT ist natürlich auch besiegbar vorallem wenn mans nicht kann und meint nach 3 Monaten man ist Meister.Welche Leute du auch immer getroffen hast weis ich nicht aber mich schokiert das du ohne Ausnahme keinen guten getroffen hast.Ich habe es vlt damals als ich 17 -18 war nicht richtig gemacht aber ich habe sehr viele konfrotationen auf der Straße erlebt und WT hat mir enorm geholfen.Es gibt viele Möchtegern ich hau alle um WTler.
@ WingTsun 172: Oh mein Gott. Da hat aber jemand Ahnung. Ich habe Ving Tsun für fast 8 Jahre gemacht und gegen 'nen beispielsweise Boxer kaum ne Chance, geschweige denn ne Chance gegen nen Freefighter gehabt. Wing Tsun ist uneffektiv und ich habe OHNE AUSNAHME keinen Wing Tsunler gesehen der auch nur annähernd kämpfen könnte. Wing Tsun und Bodenkampf ? WTF? Junge du hast soviel Ahnung wie ein Stück Dreck, im WT gibt es und gab es noch nie Bodenkampf, also halt die Schnauze!
@11990Ronaldo danke für die Ehrlichkeit. ich bin gleicher meinung, auch wenn ich nur ein halbes jahr WT gemacht habe, und dann zu lok yiu wing chun gewechselt bin. ich bin froh, dass ich so früh gewechselt habe, nachdem ich meine erkannt zu haben, was für ein betrug das ganze ist (grandmaster-nachweise, aussteigersanktionen, hierarchie durch zahlungssystem ect...). es tut mir leid für dich, dass sie dich so lange hingehalten haben.
Hej Kollege , ich gehöre nicht zu den leuten die meinen WT wäre das beste
ich habe Taekwondo und muay thai trainiert beides war gut muay thai natürlich besser.Aber Wing Tsun ist etwas ganz anderes und ehrlich gesagt tust du mir schon leid nach 8 Jahren Wing Tsun zu behaupten WT ist uneffektiv was für ein quatsch ich habe einen Kumpel der ist BAWÜ Meister im schwergewicht(Boxen)
10 cm größer und ganz ehrlich er hats sehr sehr schwer gegen mich ohne angeben zu wollen.
Nur weil du das System nicht verstanden oder nicht umsetzen konntest, musst du doch net die ganze WT lehre in den Dreck ziehen. Jede Kampfsportart/kunst ist so gut wie man selbst und Du bist das beste Beispiel... Verstehe auch nicht wieso Du dann 8 jahre WT gemacht hast wenn es doch soo schlecht ist ^^, naja man lernt nie aus "g"
@11990Ronaldo 8 Jahre WT?.....und du redest so? .....Dafür gibt es nur eine erklärung....du hast KEIN TALENT........ geh lieber malen oder zeichnen oder so... das kriegste bestimmt hin.
DAI SIFU VICTOR GUTIERREZ IS FORMER PUPIL OF DAI SIFU BOZTEPE. They are probably the best in the world. If you want to see more of these masters and, specially Dai Sifu Victor Gutierrez, watch the video "7Combat7 Victor Gutierrez". No comments. Oh, to those haters that stick to stupidity...Here, basic lesson not to think like a moron. Part 1. If you can run 100 meters, but you only run 20... Isn't it true it'd be ridiculous to say you couldn't run 100 meters just because you only ran 20? Jesus!
...my friend why you cannot see the differencies?....i was practising in W.Cheung's Wing Chun for 5 years...and when i first went to see a Leung Ting's WT seminar,was completely surprised!...thought i was learning bullshits..so simple........
Happyanand69 sure,there is a philosophy in every art-in my opinion-but this video shows how simple can WT be.if you are about to fight in your life,you must do it right.........the opponent will not care about you.wants to harm you...so,you are not going to have any conversation..Lets make it clear,we learn Wing Tsun so we can be able to fight any opponent with any cost..how much you are going to harm your opponent depends of your morality..............BUT you must not give him any change......
AND who cares if this video is not in the spirit if wing tsun or anything like that or does not convey the concepts blah blah blah, it is fighting pure and simple. its not crazy or anything, snap the fuck out of those dreams
who gives a flying fuck how you spell the fuckin thing. it is what it is. the fact remains, these guys are going hardcore and its a pleasure to watch.
this is just bullshit, wheres the concepts... this is nothing. A true wingchun user does not use fighting as a way to advertise or show the strength of the style. It is only used in the course of physical and mental health.
these men know how to fight better than most martial artists, all they need, all anyone needs, is to be super athletes, the most perfectly trained athletes ever, and their, anyone, becomes more dangerous than ever before, this video represents wat combat is really like
u know they have sum technique but ultimately strength, speed, balance, youth and physical health are the dominant factors in any fight.
thats why martial arts are bullshit, you put some one who has a punching power pushing 1500 psi and weighs roughly 265 pounds but is young and ripped who can sprint 100 meters in under ten seconds against the best martial artist, the laws of physics say the super athlete will destroy the philosophical and money making bullshit that is martial arts.
@Darth5Steel Dude, you don't understand at all what "redirecting forces" is, right?
If the person you put him against is a very well trained martial artist, all his strength will not help this guy, as he won't even be able to use it against the martial artist.
@Darth5Steel : What an ignorant comment. What about reflex-training, knuckle conditioning, sparring, accuracy training? These things are vital training for a fighter.What will bench-pressing help you if you don't know how to punch the right areas in an adrenaline-driven situation? It's obvious you don't know shit about physics even though you act like you do. WC is a system that totally negates physical strenght. That's why you don't need to be ''ripped'' to spar against someone bigger than you.
@Darth5Steel Also, if you focus so much on conditioning, you have less time focusing on the rest of your training. Condition is just a small part. Strenght is just a small part. You need some of it. But if you know how to hit the right places (Throat, Groin, Eyes, Back of the head) then you don't need all that much strenght. I would say you need more speed and better reflexes. And you will gain speed by training your techniques over and over again until you are bored with them. -Peace
@Darth5Steel u r just like so many idiots i've personally dealt w/ in class & at the bars i've worked at real martial arts ( martial=war) those of us who've fought & have experience at fighting in real scraps will beat u theorists & sport entertainers =mma 10xs out of ten sports & theory is never combat .try comparing your skill at a mc outlaw heavy metal show with guys that like 2 use hammers .my wt worked just fine & i'm only 5'6" most of my assailants 250 -320 ibs 6'8" & up lots of athletes
bahahahaha i used the move at 2.15 on this guy, owned him at a party. he tried to drop quickly to the ground so i fell backward and wrapped my legs around him. extended the hips and he was gone. i even love it even when i lose, brings out the dog
This stuff looks brutal. I guess there's really no good way to get your ass beat but I wouldn't want to get mine handed to me by a guy who knows any of this that's for sure...
Wenn man ein 300 PS Auto hat, zieht man 99 von 100 Autos auf Strassen ab. wenn man 2 Jahre effektiv Wing Tsun lernt kann man sich gegen 99 von 100 Leuten auf Strassen wehren! Jemnad der selber WT macht weiß was ich meine. Ein Kampf endet (fast) immer auf dem Boden, --> Bodenkampf WT! ALLE Polizei Beamten sind VERPFLICHTET WT zu lernen, das hat einen Grund.
Lasst euch WT bitte vom Neider nicht schlechtreden. .
@Wingtsun172 so siehts aus!! ausserdem peilen die meisten leute gar nicht was das ist! fangen damit an machen dasn jahr hören dann auf und wundern sich genau so wie ich mich erst gewundert habe, dachte auch erst was soll denn das sein! aber hatte mien meister paar mal angegriffen und hatte keine chance obwohl ich starssen kampf erfahrung hab,genug! jetzt mah ich das mittlerweile 5 jahre und ich muss sagen ist die krasseste kampfkunst die jeh entwickelt wurde für mich!!!!!!!
WT hat schlechten bodenkampf. Wenn du bodenkampf machen willst trainieren bjj oder ringen. Da lernste was aufm boden abgeht. Oder MMA da darf man auch auf dem boden schlagen.
Ich will mal sehen wie ein WTler gegen einen MMAler oder gegen einen boxer kämpft. Auf der straße. Ich denke da wird der MMAler oder der boxer doch nicht zu den 99 gehören sondern eher zu den 1 den du ansprichst.
Und die gewinnen auch bestimmt nciht jeden straßenkampf!
hahaha alle wt beamten sidn verplfichtet wt zu lernen? ah ja, es gibt in der tat einen wing tsun instruktor.. ich glaub in nrw? ab er das hat wenig mit dem wt zu tun was man so kennt und außerdem betrifft das bei weitem nicht alle polizisten also hör auf irgendwelche behauptungen aufzustellen. und was deine erfolgsquote angeht bezweifel ich das stark, oder gegen wieviel leute hast du schon gekämpft? wenn ich bodenkampf will, mach ich bjj, ll oder was mma-mäßiges....
guys you know what?...in the end i dont give a damn if L.Ting was Y.man's student or not.i only know WT is Different from WC,more practical as IHateToTellYou wrote and in my opinion this is that matters.WC guys you can just have a test vs WT guys if you want to feel the difference. in words anyone can say what he likes.every art is welcome and everyone free to explore and learn :)
I have to agree...my lineage is of WC...Ip Man, Ip Ching, Sam Kwok and then my former sifus. If you look at the difference in chi sau, WC has a more energetic approach. Look at Boztepe, Gutierrez, Leung Ting...they are direct. I don't think WC this or WT that has anything to do with it. It is just the approach. Concepts are the same, however the delivery and ideology is different. Too many ppl have gotten lost in the idea of chi sau being for chi sau...it is supposed to be for combat.
@ksikisoffroader are you talking about wing tsun and wing chun ?
cause those to are just different names for the same art
over the hundreds of years and the many languages this art has been trough the name has changed a bit from region to region but the sport remains the same...
@ksikisoffroader there is no difference, only difference in yourself. Theres a difference between manny pacquiao and floyd mayweather, its still boxing, its just how each individual expresses that
@JGreber - Couldnt disagree more, L.Ting's WT is far more usable on the street than the more classical WC styles. These demos are of course performed at 80-90%. For a linage of WC, WT specifically is a fair mix between a 'soft' and a 'hard' style.
@FoGGeRdk "I am created Shiva, the Destroyer; death, the shatterer of worlds. The dead night tiger made whole by the Master of Sinanju. Who is this dog meat that dares challenge me?"
Truly brutal, He does favor elbows a little to much. But I do love the violence in the video. He also uses a good amount of leg techniques. He is definitely a good WC practitioner. I should know, I have studied WC for 9yrs.
Wing Chun and Wing Tsun are the same art my friend. Sifu Leung Ting named his Wing Chun WIng Tsun to stand out from the other Wing Chun styles. I think you need to do a little research.
my friend i dont know where you've been practise....i've practise wc for 4 years and since '05 i keep on with WT system..dont tell me is the same.the name is similar yes,both respect G.Gmaster YIp Man,but i still believe L.Ting system is better.there are many differencies..but most of all.....chi sao....:) so,i dont want people to confuse WC and WT...
Leung Ting represents the later years of the way Ip man taught. The difference between the styles is the approach of the teachings. Every master teaches there wing chun different. Where ever you learned your WC took a different approach to the teachings. My sifu learned WC from Leung ting himself. He has also trained in the Koo Sang way of WC.
Koo Sang Is from the earlier teachings of Ip mans life. My point is that it is all the same style. L. Ting does teach a very good form of WC. I also respect that you are trying to honor your WT school by making sure there is no confusion. Check out my Dallas Wing Chun demo video and you will see that the WC in it resembles your own. Hope you had a great Christmas!
LT WT is bullshit compared to YM's WC, the problem is that 98% of all WC "grandmasters" (like Yip Man sons, Victor Kan etc.) were only low level students... also LT
No Martial Arts are used to defend your life when conflict can not be averted. Also alot of traditinal Martial Arts teachers and Boxing coaches dislike weightlifting saying it makes you slow. Not only is this completely false but people are less likely to mess with a big muscular guy. People fear size and strength not if your in harmony with your Chi.
i truly believe that all martial arts should use some kind stength training and weighlifting are great for that but dont think that atackers are always scared off by size and big muscle and in some cases big bulky muscle can slow you down.
Master Victor scares the hell out me, he is a GREAT fighter & not many DARE challenge him. PLEASE dont disrespect him with ur petty comments, that shows a sign of weakness anyway ... RESPECT HIM PLEASE.
It´s kinda funny...haha. But cool also... but really, when are you going to use it? If you put yourself in those situations, you aren´t gung fu enough...
Martial Arts were designed for combat and used to beat or kill your enemy. Nothing more. If you happen to become more philosophical because of it, it `s just a uniqe side effect of training and your temperment/state of mind. I`m not saying Philosophy is bad, but Martial Arts are for fighting nothing more.
The fighting is the most important part. If not then martial art becomes ''performance art''. And performance art is not kung fu.
But combining kung fu with Buddhist practices has many advantages In my opinion. The greatest advantages are the enhancement of focus and awareness. These advantages can play an important role when having to deal with adrenaline rushes in real combat. They also help control your emotions.
@carbonlaminate ; Do you mean that it's unbalanced? If so, then you're right. You should develop both simultaneously if possible. But developing the mind and soul are often forgotten thus bringing severe imbalance...
@Anandfulness No. What I mean is "what kind of namby pamby bullshit is the original comment?" It was a video demonstrating vt techniques. Or wc, if you will. Whatever. The point is that it is ridiculous to judge whether or not there is a 'spiritual' component being taught by this instructor by viewing one video. It's like seeing a person you've never seen before while they have a cold and assuming that that person is frequently ill. Jesus on a Segway., man!
@Anandfulness how do you know? really. how do you know? "When the Qing Dynasty overthrew the Ming the Southern Shaolin Temple in Fujian Province was destroyed. The Shaolin masters who managed to escape fled to Guangdong. There they developed an insurgency and would often train the locals and peasants to fight against the oppression. " -- hubpages *dot* com/hub/Some-Differences-Between-Northern-and-Southern-Kung-Fu
@carbonlaminate ; I have no idea why you get so riled up over my opinion but it's obviously something you have to work out. I'll let you to it but I stand by my opinion that Wing Chun is an art that develops mind, body and soul. Focusing solely on the aspect of destruction will ultimately lead to a lesser form of wing chun that cannot be healthy in the long run. So either accept the roots and search for a sifu that can teach you about life or just stare yourself blind at the techniques.
@Anandfulness I guess because you sound sanctimonious, and I poorly constructed reasoning pisses me off. What you really mean-- what you weren't able to clearly articulate -- is that this display offends you, or perhaps even makes you feel insecure. It's like a jock calling a straight-A student an "egghead".Again, this demonstration is a snapshot of the instructors teaching. The instructor could very well teach the philosophical aspects of fighting. We aren't seeing it here (cont)
@carbonlaminate ; I just see an imbalance in the video.. It's like walking into a gym and seeing everybody doing strength exercises while completely ignoring the stretching exercises and the conditioning. This is a very simple way of saying it, but it's almost the same feeling I get. This video focuses on the destruction and action while blatantly ignoring the non-action and softness. WC gives you peace of mind, body and soul and that is not something I feel in this video. Understand?
@Anandfulness "The Hung Fa Yi Kuen ancestors claim there were two significant people who set the stage for Wing Chun and many other Chinese martial art styles to flourish. The first significant person was a Buddhist monk from Northern Shaolin temple was Chiu Yuen. In Hung Fa Yi lore, he played the leading role in keeping the underground Anti-Manchurian activities alive." --
Search for "shaolin society" and "history of wing chun"
perche nn su l'iphone????
simoneboldrini 3 weeks ago
winq tsun sucks ass lol winq chun will dominate all day. they move too slow unlike winq chun its more fast paste and more deadly
efks13 1 month ago
@efks13 - And alas MMA fighters will dominate both.
iApna 1 month ago
@efks13 Its.. the same?...... Its not the martial art, its the artist that determinate the use of the art
2h4d0wDK 3 hours ago
YA CAUSE THIS ISNT STAGED AND FAKE!!!
TheBrradsullivan 2 months ago
2:25....stuffed turkey?
gunnerbunny 3 months ago
whats with the stupid music and sound effects?
58dragonmist 4 months ago
i make WingTsun for over 20 years - an i can say it``s one of the best fighting stuff you can make - its destroy fast the enemy -
georgeclowni 4 months ago
El peludo seguro decia: "No me pegues soy Giordano!"
Arlekhine 5 months ago
Whatch the movie "IP Man" to see al this Wing Chun in action :)
Arlekhine 5 months ago
wing chun with more focus on actual application = straight deadly
The7thCircuit 5 months ago
This is what I call fighting!
ironwirewingchun 5 months ago
thats a very brutal wing chun....
volikoto 6 months ago
Skills for making cheap Hong Kong movies ! Sounds are free !!
Painkillercss 6 months ago 6
perfect
malekd1 6 months ago
what a load of shit
eamonnbradley79 7 months ago
@eamonnbradley79 go & challenge them if u think it is shit record it & post it or u are a coward & full of shit & obviousely can't really fight if u don't
stovall1231 7 months ago
The sounds!! AHAHahAHahHAh
r4dio4ctive 7 months ago
damn he got skillz
turkmuslim4ever 7 months ago
@ 1:57 holy cow Victor was fighting blindfolded.
roff5 7 months ago
@ 2:28 it wasnt sparring it was more of a beat down
nachoby777 8 months ago
@nachoby777 yes, in a real fight you would not want to trade punches with your opponent, you want to knock him out. this is why real kung fu looks bad to the eyes, because kung fu do not have any kind of show or exhibition. also this is one reason why it will never see real wing chun in a ring or a cage. is boring to watch, is a fight not a game or a sport
tutanota 6 months ago
its not realistic fighting, another one just let's the other guy to beat him up..
Haltzu93 8 months ago
@ 1:40 and onward , it looks like two girls fighting haha
THEpillows100 8 months ago
@THEpillows100 any of u chowderheads who say all this go to 1 of there siminars & be just as disrespectful as u are so bravely saying any of this is bullshit & challenge them in your arogent fashion or u are the 1ns who r full of shit .& cowards at that they have siminars all over the world
stovall1231 7 months ago
@stovall1231 no i believe the style is very practical im a practioner myself , i only said that cuz the two dudes fighting in that part of the vid had long hair and should probably get a hair cut but thats just my opinion anyways i think long hair on a dude is pretty gay
THEpillows100 7 months ago
awesome!!
akvs22 8 months ago
sounds like a gonzo porn video
cfh99nyc 8 months ago
@bodhihuss your comment is from 2006 but I tell you something.. You talk shit my friend.
VingTsunFANATIC 8 months ago
Video effects and intense soundtrack are no substitute for skills. No doubt that Victor Gutierrez has skill, but how about a straight forward video showing your skill and talent rather than a hyped up vid aimed at the gun show, mouth breathing beanie baby selling Navy SEAL wannabees?
jbark9 11 months ago
god wing tsun is awesome i take it for 2 years and it makes a big difference in a fight =0
pyrojosh1 11 months ago
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VingTsunFANATIC 1 year ago
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I love wing tsun, and no doubt this guy has some skills, but there's definitely an uke mentality here
Sanguinarian13 1 year ago
I love wing tsun, and no doubt this guy has some skills, but there's definitely an uke mentality here
Sanguinarian13 1 year ago
JOHNNY CAGE WINS!
Rickokun 1 year ago 9
Jeahh wing chun
WingChunFahri 1 year ago
wow, so holistic like the music says XDDD
zmajski777 1 year ago
In my opion this is an art every martial artist should learn it's so basic and simple of course 1 thing i see as potential problem is size a lot of the techniques are meet straight on don't know how you going to control a very large person with this vs a smaller oponent. Of corse as martial artist this is why we choose what develops fastest and is effective for us not everyone likes this art it does not work for everyone.
lococavasa 1 year ago
dame .ass kicking machine
dragonworld2008 1 year ago
@dragonworld2008 download the whole wing tsun system at mma torrents.
mysticpiggyx 1 year ago
Leute,Wingtsung is der größte scheiss-.-
ich beherrsche selbst 2 Kampfsportarten und das ist keine
das ist einfach nur einen anderen Grundlos schmerzen zuzubereiten oder den umzubringen oder bleibende schäden herforzurufen...
Kampfsport ist zur selbstverteidigung da,fals man angegriffen wird sich zu verteidigen, nicht einen anderen zu töten.
Das ist einfach nur sinnloses rumgekloppe -.-
ronnydalia 1 year ago
@ronnydalia
1. Wing Tsung [übrigens wird im Video (EWTO) Wing Tsun gezeigt, nicht Wing Tsung] ist nicht "der größte Scheiß" -> Jedes System hat Vor- und Nachteile.
2. Fragt sich halt, wie gut du diese Kampfsportarten beherrschst. Wing Tsun ist kein Kampfsport, sondern eine SV.
3. Nein, es ist eine SV
4. Nein, KampfSPORT ist wenig zur Selbstverteidigung da und im WT wird nicht gelehrt jmd. zu töten, nur übertriebene Techniken. Töten fällt mehr ins Krav Maga.
5. siehe 3.
666AncientEvil666 1 year ago
@666AncientEvil666 so ein quatsch Krav Maga ist auch eine SV aber eben für krisengebiete bzw spezial aufträge. Das töten lernt man aufm schießstand. Davon abgesehn hab ich in dem video gar keine waffen gesehn das is sowas von unrealistisch! Also mindestens messer sollten da doch drin sein oder? Bei KM wird mit allem trainiert so wie es auch in der realität vorkommen könnte und nicht jeder angriff muss tödlich ausgehen.
KM>WT
Keywest1984 1 year ago
@Keywest1984
1. Habe nie behauptet, dass Krav Maga keine Selbstverteidigung wäre.
2. Warum denkst du, gibt es im Krav Maga sog. Civil Instructors?
3. Nicht nur, ich habe ja auch nicht geschrieben, dass man im KM lernt, zu töten, sondern, dass es mehr ins KM fällt.
4. Du beziehst dich auf ein einzelnes Video um ein System zu bewerten?
5. Kannst du nicht beurteilen, weil du nicht alle Schulen kennst.
6. wie schon gesagt, JEDES System hat Vor- und Nachteile, KM wie WT ;>
666AncientEvil666 1 year ago
@666AncientEvil666 hmm naja ich sags mal so, warscheinlich hast du recht und ich war etwas zu aufbrausend tut mir leid, viel spaß noch beim WT training dir ;)
Keywest1984 1 year ago
@Keywest1984 Kein Ding ;> Ich trainiere nicht Wing Tsun sondern Muay Thai, Boxen, Kickboxen und ein bisschen MMA ;>
666AncientEvil666 1 year ago
@666AncientEvil666
Doch ich über schon seit klein auf Kampfsport bzw kunst
ich beurteile nicht das System aber genau das tun die meisten Leute hier....
serbstar86 1 year ago
@Keywest1984 genau daher trainiert gsg9, ksk wt weils unrealistisch ist
TheDummkop 11 months ago
@TheDummkop ich glaube da irrst du dich, meines Wissens nach trainieren die Jungs KM...
Keywest1984 11 months ago
@ronnydalia ich habe das glück bei einem der urgesteine der ewto zu trainieren und in den 35 jahren in denen er unterrichtet gab es nur 4 ernsthaftere verletzungen wie beinbruch.außerdem hat sort nichts mit sv zu tun, sonst wären auch sportschützen die besten soldaten
TheDummkop 11 months ago
Ich habe auch schon gesehen das ein Europameister A Klasse Muay thai)
GLANZ UND KLANGLOS AUF DER STRAßE UNTERGING!!!Weil das eben nicht der Ring mit nem Schiri ist!!!
Was nützt dir ein Porsche wenn man ned fahren kann,
Also Leute nur weil mans selber nicht kann heist es nicht das es nicht funktioniert du armer wie untalentiert bist du wenn du nach 8 Jahren keinen Plan hast.Ich komme aus Heidelberg ich würde dich sehr gerne treffen und sehen was du so kannst und was ich kann vlt änderst d.Mein
serbstar86 1 year ago
@serbstar86
Liegt am Kämpfer nicht am System.
Wenn du davon ausgehend Systeme beurteilst übst du entweder keine Kampfkunst / keinen Kampfsport aus oder bist noch sehr unerfahren.
666AncientEvil666 1 year ago
Aber das gibt keinem das Recht zu behaupten Wing Tsun ist uneffektiv.
Du hast anscheinend vergessen oder wahrscheinlich nie gelernt.Das du deinen so gelobten boxern die Kniescheibe rausdonnern kannst oder mit paar guten Ellenbogen den halben Kopf wegbomben kannst oder mal ab und an in die Augen stechen kannst sorry ich muss so radikal schreiben wenn ich so ein Dreck lese.Ich habe Praktische Erfahrung und weiß das es funktioniert vorausgesetzt das man hart und richtig trainiert!!!
serbstar86 1 year ago
Wie kannst du so ein Scheiß erzählen WT ist natürlich auch besiegbar vorallem wenn mans nicht kann und meint nach 3 Monaten man ist Meister.Welche Leute du auch immer getroffen hast weis ich nicht aber mich schokiert das du ohne Ausnahme keinen guten getroffen hast.Ich habe es vlt damals als ich 17 -18 war nicht richtig gemacht aber ich habe sehr viele konfrotationen auf der Straße erlebt und WT hat mir enorm geholfen.Es gibt viele Möchtegern ich hau alle um WTler.
serbstar86 1 year ago
imagine getting on the wrong side of one of these dudes. Lets just say I wouldn't want to spill his pint.
MrPeteMB 1 year ago
why the title says karate?
tutanota 1 year ago
elbows to the ground seam awkward.
ElGonzo1992 1 year ago
I like the sound effects!
SuperSneakySteve 1 year ago
@ WingTsun 172: Oh mein Gott. Da hat aber jemand Ahnung. Ich habe Ving Tsun für fast 8 Jahre gemacht und gegen 'nen beispielsweise Boxer kaum ne Chance, geschweige denn ne Chance gegen nen Freefighter gehabt. Wing Tsun ist uneffektiv und ich habe OHNE AUSNAHME keinen Wing Tsunler gesehen der auch nur annähernd kämpfen könnte. Wing Tsun und Bodenkampf ? WTF? Junge du hast soviel Ahnung wie ein Stück Dreck, im WT gibt es und gab es noch nie Bodenkampf, also halt die Schnauze!
11990Ronaldo 1 year ago 2
@11990Ronaldo danke für die Ehrlichkeit. ich bin gleicher meinung, auch wenn ich nur ein halbes jahr WT gemacht habe, und dann zu lok yiu wing chun gewechselt bin. ich bin froh, dass ich so früh gewechselt habe, nachdem ich meine erkannt zu haben, was für ein betrug das ganze ist (grandmaster-nachweise, aussteigersanktionen, hierarchie durch zahlungssystem ect...). es tut mir leid für dich, dass sie dich so lange hingehalten haben.
Deethy22 1 year ago
@11990Ronaldo
Hej Kollege , ich gehöre nicht zu den leuten die meinen WT wäre das beste
ich habe Taekwondo und muay thai trainiert beides war gut muay thai natürlich besser.Aber Wing Tsun ist etwas ganz anderes und ehrlich gesagt tust du mir schon leid nach 8 Jahren Wing Tsun zu behaupten WT ist uneffektiv was für ein quatsch ich habe einen Kumpel der ist BAWÜ Meister im schwergewicht(Boxen)
10 cm größer und ganz ehrlich er hats sehr sehr schwer gegen mich ohne angeben zu wollen.
serbstar86 1 year ago
@11990Ronaldo
Ist doch nicht wahr. Ich hab selbst schon bei Tekken mit nem WT character gegen andere gewonnen. :p
DrMabuse2006 1 year ago
@11990Ronaldo
Nur weil du das System nicht verstanden oder nicht umsetzen konntest, musst du doch net die ganze WT lehre in den Dreck ziehen. Jede Kampfsportart/kunst ist so gut wie man selbst und Du bist das beste Beispiel... Verstehe auch nicht wieso Du dann 8 jahre WT gemacht hast wenn es doch soo schlecht ist ^^, naja man lernt nie aus "g"
Smokie1306 1 year ago
@11990Ronaldo dann probiere es doch mal mit WC nicht WT das wirklich nicht effektiv xD
kayastar89 1 year ago
@11990Ronaldo nur weil man Etwas nicht beherrscht, heißt es nicht das es nichts bringt..
NemesisTheOne 1 year ago
@11990Ronaldo 8 Jahre WT?.....und du redest so? .....Dafür gibt es nur eine erklärung....du hast KEIN TALENT........ geh lieber malen oder zeichnen oder so... das kriegste bestimmt hin.
Fightclan 11 months ago
looks very good but the guy isnt fighting back why ? is the instructor too scared of his own studends hahahahhaa
dobsondale 1 year ago
victor gutierrez left wing tsun and is doing his own thing now.
fuksau 1 year ago
hahaha whats with the fx?? lol
asniperx 1 year ago
DAI SIFU VICTOR GUTIERREZ IS FORMER PUPIL OF DAI SIFU BOZTEPE. They are probably the best in the world. If you want to see more of these masters and, specially Dai Sifu Victor Gutierrez, watch the video "7Combat7 Victor Gutierrez". No comments. Oh, to those haters that stick to stupidity...Here, basic lesson not to think like a moron. Part 1. If you can run 100 meters, but you only run 20... Isn't it true it'd be ridiculous to say you couldn't run 100 meters just because you only ran 20? Jesus!
JaimeinUK 1 year ago
@JaimeinUK but u gotta show it...
giugnhgbvinierngvb89 1 year ago
WAAAAW Hes A Stone Cold Killer Dont Fuck With Him! Great Fighter
silley15 1 year ago
wow, i like a lot wing chun and i want to learn sometime i hope. if you can really master wing chun i believe no one can beat you !!!
Fanisliverpool1892 1 year ago
wow, hes a killer.
1234Colt 1 year ago
Nice video...If you want see my wooden dummy too..
/watch?v=UkhyhZzxIlk
SifuNikos 1 year ago
Maybe if any of this was real it would be slightly believable.
180Patrick360 1 year ago
Why isnt this video the wing tsun spirit?
What they told me in lessons: U never know when the opponent will stop beating u, so make sure u beat the crap out of hime before he does you.
OnicStrife 1 year ago
Applications are good. Quality of video is bad. And sound is like a whale and dolphin getting it on.
HANGER187 1 year ago
sztuka walki dla metali
tabrisPL 1 year ago
...my friend why you cannot see the differencies?....i was practising in W.Cheung's Wing Chun for 5 years...and when i first went to see a Leung Ting's WT seminar,was completely surprised!...thought i was learning bullshits..so simple........
ksikisoffroader 1 year ago
@ksikisoffroader , You trained for 5 years in William Cheung's Wing Chun and it sucked when you compared it to Leung Ting's?
WingChunLova 1 year ago
Happyanand69 sure,there is a philosophy in every art-in my opinion-but this video shows how simple can WT be.if you are about to fight in your life,you must do it right.........the opponent will not care about you.wants to harm you...so,you are not going to have any conversation..Lets make it clear,we learn Wing Tsun so we can be able to fight any opponent with any cost..how much you are going to harm your opponent depends of your morality..............BUT you must not give him any change......
ksikisoffroader 1 year ago
AND who cares if this video is not in the spirit if wing tsun or anything like that or does not convey the concepts blah blah blah, it is fighting pure and simple. its not crazy or anything, snap the fuck out of those dreams
mikeusurper 1 year ago
who gives a flying fuck how you spell the fuckin thing. it is what it is. the fact remains, these guys are going hardcore and its a pleasure to watch.
mikeusurper 1 year ago
I LOVE WING CHUN, and as a student I have to be honest in saying THIS VIDEO IS AN EMBARRASSMENT.
obscure323 1 year ago
this is not the real spirit and escence of wing chun...only a crazy guys
potterkun09 1 year ago 2
Su camara vale callampa
k1sou 1 year ago
Wow this video is so violent and bad. It makes Wing chun look so BAD!!!
welcometocanada1 1 year ago
this is just bullshit, wheres the concepts... this is nothing. A true wingchun user does not use fighting as a way to advertise or show the strength of the style. It is only used in the course of physical and mental health.
aznxbvlgari 1 year ago
wwwwwwwww
daitimom 1 year ago
Good God, what horrible sound effects.
Roihclem 1 year ago
sound effects provided by commodore 64's "Way of the Exploding Fist"!
judd73 1 year ago
lol at epic classical music
jungleefender 1 year ago
these men know how to fight better than most martial artists, all they need, all anyone needs, is to be super athletes, the most perfectly trained athletes ever, and their, anyone, becomes more dangerous than ever before, this video represents wat combat is really like
Darth5Steel 1 year ago
u know they have sum technique but ultimately strength, speed, balance, youth and physical health are the dominant factors in any fight.
thats why martial arts are bullshit, you put some one who has a punching power pushing 1500 psi and weighs roughly 265 pounds but is young and ripped who can sprint 100 meters in under ten seconds against the best martial artist, the laws of physics say the super athlete will destroy the philosophical and money making bullshit that is martial arts.
Darth5Steel 1 year ago
@Darth5Steel Dude, you don't understand at all what "redirecting forces" is, right?
If the person you put him against is a very well trained martial artist, all his strength will not help this guy, as he won't even be able to use it against the martial artist.
damnmynameistaken 1 year ago 2
@Darth5Steel : What an ignorant comment. What about reflex-training, knuckle conditioning, sparring, accuracy training? These things are vital training for a fighter.What will bench-pressing help you if you don't know how to punch the right areas in an adrenaline-driven situation? It's obvious you don't know shit about physics even though you act like you do. WC is a system that totally negates physical strenght. That's why you don't need to be ''ripped'' to spar against someone bigger than you.
Anandfulness 1 year ago 2
@Darth5Steel Also, if you focus so much on conditioning, you have less time focusing on the rest of your training. Condition is just a small part. Strenght is just a small part. You need some of it. But if you know how to hit the right places (Throat, Groin, Eyes, Back of the head) then you don't need all that much strenght. I would say you need more speed and better reflexes. And you will gain speed by training your techniques over and over again until you are bored with them. -Peace
Anandfulness 1 year ago
@Darth5Steel
dude your comment makes know sense,
i have a friend that its practicality everything you mentioned a "good" fighter should be
he's 10 times faster then me (runing) he can punch so hard he'll break your ribs. and i can beat him in a fight any day.
This disproves your laws of physics and proves the law of fighting:
"technique over power"
flyingvish 1 year ago
@Darth5Steel u r just like so many idiots i've personally dealt w/ in class & at the bars i've worked at real martial arts ( martial=war) those of us who've fought & have experience at fighting in real scraps will beat u theorists & sport entertainers =mma 10xs out of ten sports & theory is never combat .try comparing your skill at a mc outlaw heavy metal show with guys that like 2 use hammers .my wt worked just fine & i'm only 5'6" most of my assailants 250 -320 ibs 6'8" & up lots of athletes
stovall1231 5 months ago
bahahahaha i used the move at 2.15 on this guy, owned him at a party. he tried to drop quickly to the ground so i fell backward and wrapped my legs around him. extended the hips and he was gone. i even love it even when i lose, brings out the dog
mikeusurper 1 year ago
only fight u are a idiot wing chun it's more than fhigt
seryel 1 year ago
This is a figther man
jccharlez 1 year ago
I laughed too hard :D:D
RamNex45 1 year ago
good video little bit overacting...
Ben1987X 1 year ago
This stuff looks brutal. I guess there's really no good way to get your ass beat but I wouldn't want to get mine handed to me by a guy who knows any of this that's for sure...
PalaceOfExile 1 year ago
カキウチ最強
KAKIUCHI69 1 year ago
Well... the sound effects are good.
Kcseales 1 year ago
lastima que tenga un ego demasiado grande y se moviese solo por el interes monetario podria haber sido un gran profesor el señor gutierrez
ordersol 1 year ago
bruce lee can kick his ass...:D
moe2744 1 year ago
Bad idea to fuck with this guy...Get your ass handed to you.
guitarthroat 1 year ago
emin boztepe vs. victor Gutierrez
who will win reply me with who u vote for
Xmastermusty 1 year ago
heyy..... could you do me a favor.''???.... I need the name of the song, could you write it plizzzz. thx
GnRNiCo 1 year ago
Carmina Burana :)
Astrodicted 1 year ago
¡Joder, a ver si somos más originales con las músicas coño! Acabo de venir de un vídeo en el que la música de fondo era la misma.
AsamiyaShin1978 1 year ago
Wenn man ein 300 PS Auto hat, zieht man 99 von 100 Autos auf Strassen ab. wenn man 2 Jahre effektiv Wing Tsun lernt kann man sich gegen 99 von 100 Leuten auf Strassen wehren! Jemnad der selber WT macht weiß was ich meine. Ein Kampf endet (fast) immer auf dem Boden, --> Bodenkampf WT! ALLE Polizei Beamten sind VERPFLICHTET WT zu lernen, das hat einen Grund.
Lasst euch WT bitte vom Neider nicht schlechtreden. .
Wingtsun172 2 years ago 12
@Wingtsun172 so siehts aus!! ausserdem peilen die meisten leute gar nicht was das ist! fangen damit an machen dasn jahr hören dann auf und wundern sich genau so wie ich mich erst gewundert habe, dachte auch erst was soll denn das sein! aber hatte mien meister paar mal angegriffen und hatte keine chance obwohl ich starssen kampf erfahrung hab,genug! jetzt mah ich das mittlerweile 5 jahre und ich muss sagen ist die krasseste kampfkunst die jeh entwickelt wurde für mich!!!!!!!
cinzahno 1 year ago
@Wingtsun172 ist bei uns in berlin auch so!!
und sogar das ksk lernt wt
beste grüsse
cinzahno 1 year ago
@Wingtsun172
WT hat schlechten bodenkampf. Wenn du bodenkampf machen willst trainieren bjj oder ringen. Da lernste was aufm boden abgeht. Oder MMA da darf man auch auf dem boden schlagen.
Ich will mal sehen wie ein WTler gegen einen MMAler oder gegen einen boxer kämpft. Auf der straße. Ich denke da wird der MMAler oder der boxer doch nicht zu den 99 gehören sondern eher zu den 1 den du ansprichst.
Und die gewinnen auch bestimmt nciht jeden straßenkampf!
cave321 1 year ago
@Wingtsun172
hahaha alle wt beamten sidn verplfichtet wt zu lernen? ah ja, es gibt in der tat einen wing tsun instruktor.. ich glaub in nrw? ab er das hat wenig mit dem wt zu tun was man so kennt und außerdem betrifft das bei weitem nicht alle polizisten also hör auf irgendwelche behauptungen aufzustellen. und was deine erfolgsquote angeht bezweifel ich das stark, oder gegen wieviel leute hast du schon gekämpft? wenn ich bodenkampf will, mach ich bjj, ll oder was mma-mäßiges....
pKelMit 1 year ago 2
@Wingtsun172 Eigentlich ist Jiu jutsu die offizielle Polizei-Kampfsportart.
hayesinkjet 1 year ago
guys you know what?...in the end i dont give a damn if L.Ting was Y.man's student or not.i only know WT is Different from WC,more practical as IHateToTellYou wrote and in my opinion this is that matters.WC guys you can just have a test vs WT guys if you want to feel the difference. in words anyone can say what he likes.every art is welcome and everyone free to explore and learn :)
ksikisoffroader 2 years ago 11
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IzzoTrainingSystems 1 year ago
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I have to agree...my lineage is of WC...Ip Man, Ip Ching, Sam Kwok and then my former sifus. If you look at the difference in chi sau, WC has a more energetic approach. Look at Boztepe, Gutierrez, Leung Ting...they are direct. I don't think WC this or WT that has anything to do with it. It is just the approach. Concepts are the same, however the delivery and ideology is different. Too many ppl have gotten lost in the idea of chi sau being for chi sau...it is supposed to be for combat.
IzzoTrainingSystems 1 year ago
@ksikisoffroader are you talking about wing tsun and wing chun ?
cause those to are just different names for the same art
over the hundreds of years and the many languages this art has been trough the name has changed a bit from region to region but the sport remains the same...
depending on the one that teaches you
flyingvish 1 year ago
@ksikisoffroader It's the SAME! just different spelling.
thechicat 1 year ago
@ksikisoffroader there is no difference, only difference in yourself. Theres a difference between manny pacquiao and floyd mayweather, its still boxing, its just how each individual expresses that
idawidawaputtycat 1 year ago
who ever i sthiis person is really good
siguenza69 2 years ago
I have demonstrated high level wing chun in the videos I have uploaded.
bknives 2 years ago
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im the best in wing tsun kung fu!!
6083748 2 years ago
@6083748 Yee, and I know fly
Arthees 2 years ago
@JGreber - Couldnt disagree more, L.Ting's WT is far more usable on the street than the more classical WC styles. These demos are of course performed at 80-90%. For a linage of WC, WT specifically is a fair mix between a 'soft' and a 'hard' style.
IHateToTellYou 2 years ago
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Wing Chun is Kung Fu - made by women, for women...
...and soft men.
mofotax 2 years ago
lol and what are u? a jkd? 111111
FoGGeRdk 2 years ago
@FoGGeRdk "I am created Shiva, the Destroyer; death, the shatterer of worlds. The dead night tiger made whole by the Master of Sinanju. Who is this dog meat that dares challenge me?"
mofotax 2 years ago
Truly brutal, He does favor elbows a little to much. But I do love the violence in the video. He also uses a good amount of leg techniques. He is definitely a good WC practitioner. I should know, I have studied WC for 9yrs.
JGreber 2 years ago
@JGreber its not WC,its WT.....wing tsun,not wing chun........totally different...........go search
ksikisoffroader 2 years ago
Wing Chun and Wing Tsun are the same art my friend. Sifu Leung Ting named his Wing Chun WIng Tsun to stand out from the other Wing Chun styles. I think you need to do a little research.
JGreber 2 years ago
my friend i dont know where you've been practise....i've practise wc for 4 years and since '05 i keep on with WT system..dont tell me is the same.the name is similar yes,both respect G.Gmaster YIp Man,but i still believe L.Ting system is better.there are many differencies..but most of all.....chi sao....:) so,i dont want people to confuse WC and WT...
ksikisoffroader 2 years ago
Leung Ting represents the later years of the way Ip man taught. The difference between the styles is the approach of the teachings. Every master teaches there wing chun different. Where ever you learned your WC took a different approach to the teachings. My sifu learned WC from Leung ting himself. He has also trained in the Koo Sang way of WC.
JGreber 2 years ago
LT never was Yip Man's student... Only a first form little kid in leung sheung's school under a junior teacher, Chong Pei...
FightingWarrior 2 years ago
Great comment. Very true.
IzzoTrainingSystems 1 year ago
Koo Sang Is from the earlier teachings of Ip mans life. My point is that it is all the same style. L. Ting does teach a very good form of WC. I also respect that you are trying to honor your WT school by making sure there is no confusion. Check out my Dallas Wing Chun demo video and you will see that the WC in it resembles your own. Hope you had a great Christmas!
JGreber 2 years ago
LT WT is bullshit compared to YM's WC, the problem is that 98% of all WC "grandmasters" (like Yip Man sons, Victor Kan etc.) were only low level students... also LT
FightingWarrior 2 years ago
@JGreber , sure it is not same... I think WT is better (for me ) but anyway WT and WC are different !
Arthees 2 years ago 2
Looks like a idiot fight
Begge321 2 years ago
@Begge321 probably you are a total idiot,knowing not that if you are going to meet a guy like this,will smash you...........
ksikisoffroader 2 years ago
I love this... truely modern mix of martial arts skills.... I see alot of wingchun/(tsun) wrestling, boxing..... great vid
kaddy01980 2 years ago
martial arts are used to avert conflict. at least the chinese martial arts...
mmpaladin 2 years ago
No Martial Arts are used to defend your life when conflict can not be averted. Also alot of traditinal Martial Arts teachers and Boxing coaches dislike weightlifting saying it makes you slow. Not only is this completely false but people are less likely to mess with a big muscular guy. People fear size and strength not if your in harmony with your Chi.
Versus2000 2 years ago 2
i truly believe that all martial arts should use some kind stength training and weighlifting are great for that but dont think that atackers are always scared off by size and big muscle and in some cases big bulky muscle can slow you down.
ryetallon1 2 years ago
@Versus2000 And Martial Arts are about getting people to fear you? What utter ignorance.
Anandfulness 1 year ago
This was awesome power!
BandakaKush 2 years ago
BLIND FOLDED........ WOW. & still has amazing form. ENVY + RESPECT. Truely skilled.
DrHydroman 2 years ago
Master Victor scares the hell out me, he is a GREAT fighter & not many DARE challenge him. PLEASE dont disrespect him with ur petty comments, that shows a sign of weakness anyway ... RESPECT HIM PLEASE.
DrHydroman 2 years ago
It´s kinda funny...haha. But cool also... but really, when are you going to use it? If you put yourself in those situations, you aren´t gung fu enough...
AllequalsNothing 2 years ago
that's a bit disgraceful to be honest...
weirdo666666 2 years ago
LOVE this fucking demo! Wing Chun will kill you!
batmanmf 2 years ago 4
Sort of funny really.
SuperLemonchipchip 2 years ago
Wing chun is more than just fighting. There is a whole philosophy behind it... Too bad this video only shows destruction.
Happyanand69 2 years ago 22
Martial Arts were designed for combat and used to beat or kill your enemy. Nothing more. If you happen to become more philosophical because of it, it `s just a uniqe side effect of training and your temperment/state of mind. I`m not saying Philosophy is bad, but Martial Arts are for fighting nothing more.
Versus2000 2 years ago
The fighting is the most important part. If not then martial art becomes ''performance art''. And performance art is not kung fu.
But combining kung fu with Buddhist practices has many advantages In my opinion. The greatest advantages are the enhancement of focus and awareness. These advantages can play an important role when having to deal with adrenaline rushes in real combat. They also help control your emotions.
Ask any master, what I'm telling is true.
Happyanand69 2 years ago 2
The so called "Keyboard Warriors" don't like philosophy. They like movies and videos with lots of blood.
WeakHeadphones 2 years ago
? that sounds kind of limp. Destruction first, philosophy second.
carbonlaminate 1 year ago
@carbonlaminate ; Do you mean that it's unbalanced? If so, then you're right. You should develop both simultaneously if possible. But developing the mind and soul are often forgotten thus bringing severe imbalance...
Anandfulness 1 year ago
@Anandfulness No. What I mean is "what kind of namby pamby bullshit is the original comment?" It was a video demonstrating vt techniques. Or wc, if you will. Whatever. The point is that it is ridiculous to judge whether or not there is a 'spiritual' component being taught by this instructor by viewing one video. It's like seeing a person you've never seen before while they have a cold and assuming that that person is frequently ill. Jesus on a Segway., man!
carbonlaminate 1 year ago
@carbonlaminate ; If you look at the video, it's safe to say that the ancestors of WC wouldn't like the approach that this video takes.
.
If you can't see this then you should ask your sifu about it. If he's really a sifu after all.
Anandfulness 1 year ago
@Anandfulness how do you know? really. how do you know? "When the Qing Dynasty overthrew the Ming the Southern Shaolin Temple in Fujian Province was destroyed. The Shaolin masters who managed to escape fled to Guangdong. There they developed an insurgency and would often train the locals and peasants to fight against the oppression. " -- hubpages *dot* com/hub/Some-Differences-Between-Northern-and-Southern-Kung-Fu
I think you're a romantic fool.
carbonlaminate 1 year ago
@carbonlaminate ; I have no idea why you get so riled up over my opinion but it's obviously something you have to work out. I'll let you to it but I stand by my opinion that Wing Chun is an art that develops mind, body and soul. Focusing solely on the aspect of destruction will ultimately lead to a lesser form of wing chun that cannot be healthy in the long run. So either accept the roots and search for a sifu that can teach you about life or just stare yourself blind at the techniques.
Anandfulness 1 year ago
@Anandfulness I guess because you sound sanctimonious, and I poorly constructed reasoning pisses me off. What you really mean-- what you weren't able to clearly articulate -- is that this display offends you, or perhaps even makes you feel insecure. It's like a jock calling a straight-A student an "egghead".Again, this demonstration is a snapshot of the instructors teaching. The instructor could very well teach the philosophical aspects of fighting. We aren't seeing it here (cont)
carbonlaminate 1 year ago
@carbonlaminate ; I just see an imbalance in the video.. It's like walking into a gym and seeing everybody doing strength exercises while completely ignoring the stretching exercises and the conditioning. This is a very simple way of saying it, but it's almost the same feeling I get. This video focuses on the destruction and action while blatantly ignoring the non-action and softness. WC gives you peace of mind, body and soul and that is not something I feel in this video. Understand?
Anandfulness 1 year ago
@Anandfulness OK. I respect that. I apologize for my responses. I thought you were being sanctimonious, and that's a peeve of mine.
carbonlaminate 1 year ago
@Anandfulness wing tsun give you too!!!! its just a video for comercial!!
look master wong vides of wc you feel peace about taht i dont think so!!
but go into a gym there are many friendley peoples not like in a boxing gym or something like that!!
cinzahno 1 year ago
@cinzahno Yeah I guess you're right, I can't judge people just from the video. It's just a commercial. Though I don't like this commercial :-)
Anandfulness 1 year ago
@Anandfulness you have a good attitude!!!!
that you dont like it its ok!! i like it and i like master wong videos but hes wing chun but it doesnt matter to me!!
when i want peace and harmonie i lock other videos!!
sry for my bad english!!! have an nice day!!!
cinzahno 1 year ago
@Anandfulness "The Hung Fa Yi Kuen ancestors claim there were two significant people who set the stage for Wing Chun and many other Chinese martial art styles to flourish. The first significant person was a Buddhist monk from Northern Shaolin temple was Chiu Yuen. In Hung Fa Yi lore, he played the leading role in keeping the underground Anti-Manchurian activities alive." --
Search for "shaolin society" and "history of wing chun"
carbonlaminate 1 year ago