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  • This is great. Loved Dawkins conversation with Dr Tyson too.

  • Two genius's at work .. Just marvelous... All facts and proving again that evolution is fact and religion is false.

  • Thanks Lawrence! I was at a bar recently when some on-call emergency helicopter pilot drunkenly dropped a snide remark at me, saying, "Oh, that's just what the world needs, more physical geographers," and I responded, "Just as the world needs more drunk pilots." I'm sick of having to justify the type of science I study.

  • What do athiests and terrorist have in common!?

    They both believe in big bangs!! hahahahah im corny :/

  • Shart, to some, dookie coming out when you thought it was a fart.

    Shart, to the athiest, natural selection.

    Believer: Oh you don't like science, that is ok we still love you!

    Athiest: Oh you don't like science, you must be religious.

    Lawrence: Bees see colors because they were selected too, how else would they know where to go. God? haha no

    Romano: Bees make honey for is, I eat it it good for you. Thank you God for having mini animals work for us to make us good food :)

  • Richard and Lawrence, dumb and dumber. Theoretically, since they believe energies balance out and that they are smart, that should make sense to them. To me it just makes sense because they are full of their own shat. Anyways, I am sure there will be a fool who worships these guys come and attempt to make a comment about my statement that will be absolutely illogical. Athiest thought process101: You can be running whiling walking if you change the definitions! SWEET!

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  • Dawkins' Head is the SUN! Ohhh, my god! HE's a SAINT!

  • @SciTechExplained More like an Atonist.:P

  • It was arrogant and condescending of Dawkins and the host to allude that republicans don't know the earth revolves around the sun. I can assure him that most of those in Detroit/Philly/Chicago are clueless as to what revolves around what and yet their politics are near exclusively of "the smarty pants left". even the high brow left still cling the idea that all men are endowed with identical capabilities it spite of mounds of testing and years of failed public programs.

  • Two hero's of mine!

  • Pause at 4:21 to see your God

  • Science!

  • How many out there have regular conversations with Jesus? Just wondering.

  • If there is a god no one could ever understand it. Its just one big hope to have eternal life in trade for enternal worship. That sounds like hell to me.

  • who is praying to the pumpkin man tonight? haha but seriously good video. Dawkins is great and the major issue with the idea of intelligent design is as Dawkins said before, if a human requires an intelligent designer then the designer of humans requires an even more intelligent designer.

  • magnificent, is it 360p or is it still precessing in youtube?

  • WHY WASN´T HE MY BIOLOGY TEACHER !!!???

  • @bluenightfox Which one of these spineless dolts are you talking about? What a couple of wimps.

  • @thechessstick I mean Dawkins. And if you believe you are better than he is in his field, send me your book(s) you have published. Or send me a video with your debate. Because saying that they are spineless dolts without a justification is.....SPINELESS and DOLTY.

  • @bluenightfox There are plenty of books that are published that show evolution to be a haven for the fool. Would you like me to name a few for you?

  • One word. Think.

  • I think what is the problem with this format of discussion is that you have two people who agree with each other. A quote the I love is "You cannot have a fair trial without council. Under our adversary system of justice, how can our civilized nation pretend that there is a fair trial without the council for the prosecution doing all he can, within the limits of decency, and the council for the defense doing his best within the same limits; and from this clash the truth will emerge"

  • @TheHidan888 Evolutionists/atheists know that their belief is bankrupt and devoid of reason and evidence. This is why they will not debate. The only opinions that Dick Dawkins allows is one that agrees with him or a strawman argument that he can easily knock down. He is simply a very cowardly half-man just like Larry Krauss is and is milking the system for easy money. The only reason Larry has a job is due to nepotism.

  • @thechessstick - ...and the reason and evidence theists provide is ...what...?

  • @epicdeed If you don't have it it is because you have not sought it. Stand up like a man. Stop being a government indoctrinated sheep.

  • @thechessstick

    You sound like David Icke

  • @thechessstick wow, if that isn't the pot calling the kettle black with your attempt to insult suggesting those who ask for evidence to be the "indoctrinated sheep"!!

    My question was what is your evidence for your theistic comments? It is not up to Athiests to search for evidence to prove Theists viewpoint. Athiests ask Theists to provide evidence for their claims, and the fact is there is no substantive evidence, that's why its called "faith".

  • @epicdeed The atheist Delusion!

    If man, through the application of scientific instruments and criteria, cannot perceive the existence of a thing, he cannot deny its existence simply because it is incompatible with material criteria, unless he disposes of some proof that the thing in question is impossible.

  • @1tabligh Argument from ignorance, also known as argumentum ad ignorantiam or "appeal to ignorance" (where "ignorance" stands for: "lack of evidence to the contrary"), is a fallacy in informal logic. It asserts that a proposition is true because it has not yet been proven false, it is "generally accepted" (or vice versa).

  • @kisskorvar The atheist Delusion!

    Your delusion that science has put out the notion of God is purely *rhetorical* and has nothing to do with logical method, because even thousands of scientific experiments could not possibly suffice to demonstrate that no non-material being or factor exists.

    Your delusion is nothing more than a *fanatical* illusion based on unproven theories.

  • @1tabligh An argument of ignorance is implying that something is true because it hasn't been proven false. Science has not been able to disprove that we are all imaginary concepts formulated in the mind of a pink elefant either, because there are not methods of proving nor disproving it. Your "atheist delusion" is, simply put, just bullshit.

  • @kisskorvar Views such as these derive directly from a system of thought centered on materialism; within it, everything is defined and delimited with reference to materialism.

    To interpret materialism in such a sense is in the final analysis strictly meaningless; it would be a superstitious notion involving the perversion of truth, and to regard it as scientific would, in fact, be *treason* to science.

  • @1tabligh I'm pretty sure your talking about religion buddy.

  • @xBlackEditionx Without doubt, one of the factors in the emergence of anti-religious ideas and a phalanx of deniers of God, has been the false teachings, the inadequacies and the intellectual perversions of the followers of some religions. The peculiarities and separate characteristics of each religion must, therefore, be individually examined when studying the reasons that have led men to adhere to that religion.

  • @1tabligh I've studied the bible, the old testament and new testament. So basically it's ok to have slaves, stone witches and kill gays? The bible also says the earth is only 6000 years old and the earth is flat. No wonder Christians who actually study the bible become atheists. I don't blame them.

  • @xBlackEditionx Western intellectuals were aware only of the superstitious aspect of false religion and how the established dogmas of religion lacked all logical basis, so they had no hesitation in condemning religion as such to be baseless. Their judgment was based on their discouraging experiences with their own religion, and it could not fail, then, to be hasty, unrealistic, irrational and illogical.

  • @xBlackEditionx It is true that certain religions, lacking a connection with the principles of revelation, have been influenced in their appearance and growth by the social environment and similar factors. However, it is illogical to ascribe the foundation of all faiths and religious tendencies to material or economic circumstances and demands, to fear of the terrifying forces of nature, to ignorance or to considerations rejected by *science*.

  • @1tabligh Ok, so now your just taking out parts of the bible which you don't agree with. When it clearly states in it that the bible is the written word of god and his word is of law. It's very logical to ascribe the foundation of Christianity based on everything that is written in the old testament along with the new testament. No where does it say anywhere that the old testament is now obsolete and now it's ok for homosexuality and to abolish slavery.Your simply picking and choosing.

  • @xBlackEditionx Scholars are agreed that religious beliefs have always been intertwined with human life. However, their opinions differ concerning the fundamental roots of religion and the factors that have played a primary role in its establishment and development. Their judgments, in this respect, are generally based on studies of superstitious religions and primitive beliefs, with the result that their conclusions are, in the final analysis, defective and illogical.

  • @xBlackEditionx I am not a Christian!

    I am a Shiite Muslim!

    The atheist Delusion!

    How could some of the scientists permit themselves to make a claim that would necessitate knowledge as extensive as the scheme of the universe, when their knowledge of the total scheme of being is *close* to zero, when confronted with a whole mass of unknowns concerning this very earth and tangible, lifeless matter, let alone the whole universe?

  • @1tabligh That's because it's proven that the universe did come from nothing. And when I mean nothing I mean dark matter. That's because literally there is no such thing as nothing. If you take away every particle and all the radiation you get dark matter. And quantum fluctuations from it can in fact create a universe known as the big bang.

    Religion is making this world worse and there is no need for it. Educate yourself and actually study the universe rather than relying on mere faith

  • @xBlackEditionx Do scientific discoveries and knowledge cause such a scientist to conclude that matter, *unknowing and unperceiving *, is his creator and that of all beings?

    No?

    Then how can the duped atheists and some of the scientists delude themselve and *believe* that hydrogen and oxygen, electrons and protons, should first produce themselves, then be the source for all other beings, and finally decree the laws that regulate themselves and the rest of the material world?

  • @1tabligh Yes, it's called experiment. And it's backed up by evidence. Which you don't have of your "god". I think your just being stubborn and your parents probably brainwashed you into your religion. It's tragic.

  • @xBlackEditionx The atheist Delusion!

    Your delusion that science has put out the notion of God is purely *rhetorical* and has nothing to do with logical method, because even thousands of scientific experiments could not possibly suffice to demonstrate that no non-material being or factor exists.

    Your delusion is nothing more than a *fanatical* illusion based on unproven theories.

  • @1tabligh Yet again your stealing other peoples comments. Your an uneducated muslim that has no hope of truly understanding the universe for what is is.

  • @xBlackEditionx Even if the followers of a religious school of thought had no proofs for their claim, to conclude firmly and forcibly that non- being reigns beyond the sensory realm would be a non-scientific choice, based on imagination and speculation.

  • @xBlackEditionx Some people try to propagate this *fantasy* in the garb of science and to present their choice as having been dictated by scientific thought. In the final analysis, however, the denial involved in such an assertion is unworthy of science and philosophy, and even *contradicts* empirical logic.

    Poor fella!

    So much science for this stupid brainless pseudo-Scientific Demagogue!

  • @xBlackEditionx That's because it's proven that the universe did come from nothing

    ___

    What?!

    Let us see YOUR scientific understanding.

    Go to the laboratory, and do an experiment with little of NOTHING, and then mix it with a LOT of NOTHING, and GUESS WHAT!

    YOU WILL GET THIS SPECTACULAR UNIVERSE!

    From NOTHING comes NOTHING!

    What science is this?

    What man of science are you?

    Come back when you get something out of nothing!

  • @1tabligh Religious people usually get angry when they know they are being out debated. But, as I just told you, there is NO such thing as nothing. As it is dark matter. And I don't want to explain everything to you a second time. Now go get an education.

  • The Need of the World for One Without Need!

    The principle of causality is a general and universal law and foundation for all efforts of man, both in the acquisition of knowledge and in his customary activities. The strivings of scholars to uncover the cause of every phenomenon, whether natural or social, arise from the belief that *no* phenomenon originates in and of itself *without* the intervention of causes and agents.

  • @1tabligh That wasn't your comment you stole that from an article.

  • @xBlackEditionx Religious people usually get angry ...known as the big bang....Now go get an education.

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    Nope!

    It's right there in front of your nose!

    But you refuse to acknowledged!

    READ MY COMMENTS WITH YOUR INTELLECT AND NOT WITH YOUR WANNABE MONKEY EMOTIONS!

    If you will still persist in your ignorance at least assure me as to when this *big bang* created itself-whether it did it before it came into existence, or afterwards?

  • @xBlackEditionx If you say afterwards, your assertion is absurd. Because it is impossible for a thing to create its own self when it was already created.

    The purpose of your assertion would be that the *big bang* made itself twice. It would mean that its first endeavours consisted in creating itself, and when it was quite ready and created, it created itself again. This is the most *absurd* and impossible theory-the acquisition of what is already acquired.

  • @xBlackEditionx If you say that it created itself before it came into existence, it is really *stupid*. Because it was absolutely nothing before it came into existence.

    How is it possible for a non-existing thing to create another thing (*big bang*) ? You consider my belief in an existing thing (God) that creates another non-existing thing (*big bang*) as absurd. But you do not consider your own, as to the non-existing thing having the power to create an already existing thing

  • @1tabligh The big bang didn't create itself, it was quantum fluctuations from dark matter that created the big bang. And yet again you say non-existing, when I blatantly told you there is no such thing as nothing and there is evidence for that. I'm done arguing with children.

  • @xBlackEditionx

    No... all of matter was created after the big bang.... dark matter is just matter that doesn't interact electromagnetically with normal matter, if it does indeed exist after all. Perhaps you were thinking of dark energy, which is even more of a mystery. Still, all of this is speculation, physicists have no solid idea of what was going on at that point, during Planck Time, and they probably wont understand it until they unify the four fundamental forces.

  • @lordcodicus I just want to get this "nothing" talk out of the air. You can't get something from "nothing" and it's more than obvious. Common sense really. That's why people are still so clung to the idea of "god" because they can't get the speculation of "nothing" out their heads. No such thing as "nothing".

  • having the power to create an already existing thing,(*big bang*) as absurd and stupid.

    Be yourself the judge, and tell me whose theory is absurd and irrational.?

    In the name of Allah, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful.

    "Do not the Unbelievers see that the heavens and the earth (Universe) were joined together as one unit (atom) of creation, before we clove (exploded) them asunder? We made from water every living thing. Will they not then believe?"

    The Quran 21:30

  • @xBlackEditionx So much science for this uncivilized stupid brainless pseudo-Scientific Demagogue!

    How is that for YOUR "Now go get an education" and answer the question instead?!

  • @1tabligh Yes I recommend you get an education. Your mad because you don't know what else to say.

  • @xBlackEditionx Views such as these derive directly from a system of thought centered on materialism; within it, everything is defined and delimited with reference to materialism.

    To interpret materialism in such a sense is in the final analysis strictly meaningless; it would be a superstitious notion involving the perversion of truth, and to regard it as scientific would, in fact, be *treason* to science.

  • @xBlackEditionx If you take away every particle and all the radiation you get dark matter. And quantum fluctuations from it can in fact create a universe known as the big bang.

    ___

    Whatever is stable and immutable in its essence cannot accept movement and change within that essence.

    How do deluded and duped atheists, who believe that matter is accompanied by its antithesis, justify the eternity of matter/energy?

  • @1tabligh Particles can in fact be changed very easily with high temperatures. And the rest of your comment makes almost no sense.

  • @thechessstick really? How is the Belief of athiests and evolutionists Bankrupt and devoid of evidence, you do realise that evolution HAS been prooved! The scientific community has come together and decided that evolution did happen, has happened and is how we came to be!

  • @Fielder5757 I guess all of the evolutionists got together and took a vote and decided evolution is true. LOL 

  • @thechessstick "Evolutionists/atheists know that their belief is bankrupt and devoid of reason and evidence. This is why they will not debate"

    Another person who likes to make assertions about something of which they clearly have little to no understanding.

    Dawkins HAS debated the very top creationists in the past, and won... did that make a difference? Did you change your mind? No, that's because debates tdo not descern truth.

  • You atheists have as your god evolution. Anyone who has simply accepted the misinformation that the government indoctrination centers shovel into the unsuspecting head of children cannot come to the correct conclusion when it comes to origins. I call this process "evolutardation" and it is rampant. Another part of this indoctrination is the "puffing-up" mechanism that is used. That is the brainwashing technique that works on a person's pride and fear that makes them smug elitists (T.E.N.C)

  • @thechessstick

    Disbelief in god is a god? That makes no sense. What is your definition of god? "Something you believe in"? If so you could say that. Or you could say that socialism is a god or pancakes. But it sort of destroys the meaning of the word in my opinion.

    A god is a supernatural being of some sort who is aware and who can act. At least according to my definition.

  • @thechessstick "You atheists have as your god evolution."

    If you are redefining the word 'god' then there is no point in calling anything by its name. My kettle is god. My cat is god. See?

    Show how the definitions of the words "evolution" and "god" are synonymous by typing their identical definition... or shut up.

  • @thechessstick

    also, am i a part of this world wide conspiracy?

  • @seansalvador1 Yes, you just don't know it. As P.T. Barnum said "There is one born every minute".

  • @thechessstick

    Right... i could say the exact same thing of you. Actually, you are simply a brain in a jar and all your sensory input is uploaded from the massive computer banks set to run you. I am analysing your brain right now. Your entire world does not even exist, it is simply my method of analysis. There exist a few other brains and i run them through different programs as a part of this analysis, some of them are in worlds where they can fly.

    Disprove me.

  • i love the first 1:30, I completly agree with Richard on my hatred of the debate format lol

  • great discussion, youtube has to make a like button that allows a person to like all videos attached in a playlist simultaneously. it's bothersome to have to stop and like each vid individually.

    thank you

  • @Th3Wab3

    Meaning you would 'like' them even without having first watched them.

  • @seansalvador1 clearly u don't understand the mechanism of playlists.. upon reaching the end of a vid a next starts. as a result the watcher doesn't get to like the previous vid without stoping the current and returning to the latter.. that is what the complaint is about

  • love the format of the discussion!

  • NICE a conversation about science by intelligent people, hard to find :)

  • Two phenomenal speakers. I'm a professor in biology at a mid sized university in Canada and regularly teach ecology. Sometimes I feel as Richard is one of the giant's whose shoulders I stand upon. I thought this such an excellent conversation and immensely enjoyed it. I can only aspire to the influence these two speakers have on society. Great job gentleman!

  • @kgdblade "one of the giants", not "one of the giant's"

  • @haarez

    Thank you for taking the time  to add your petty and pedantic correction to kdgblade's kind and congratulatory comment.

    I hope you've found the smug satisfaction that you so richly deserve.

  • @billygutter01 it is sort of worrisome that a college professor doesn't know what apostrophes are used for

  • @billygutter01 You're welcome!

  • @kgdblade I feel like Dick is a simpleminded twit who has found an easy way to make money by selling his soul. Larry only has his job due to nepotism from his "brothers" in his faith.

  • There is nothing intelligent about Intelligent Design.

  • @lovelittlecats lol, its just "wishful thinking" :)

  •  Simply incredible.

  • These fractions of men are simply riding the gravy train. Easy money for serving Satan.

  • @TheLogicalBrain It has already. I mean look at how many dolts believe in evolution!

  • @thechessstick

    'look at how many dolts believe in evolution!"

    I know man... seriously... I mean, that hair on your toes... god put that hair on your toes for a REASON. YES HE DID.

  • @MegaSensimilla God is Great! 

  • @thechessstick

    Good for you!

  • @thechessstick

    I know, I know... you're wondering, "How did he know I'm a douchebag?"

    I just know these things.

  • @thechessstick

    So hey, in the year 1793... you, like, didn't exist... right?

    You were like... technically dead?

    How did it feel? Can you tell me what you were feeling in the year 1793?

  • @MegaSensimilla I was not yet created sonny.

  • @thechessstick

    Yes, I think that's pretty obvious to everyone.

    But what did it feel like? It was just a big... black... empty nothing?

    Or just, you can't remember it?

    What? You aren't very clear with your answer.

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  • @thechessstick

    It is simply a fact that animals evolve. Why do you doubt it? I know the answer, it is because you have no idea about the theory and have never bothered to study it or the evidence.

  • @thechessstick

    What? What has this got to do with anything?

    I am willing to bet you don't even know what biological evolution is!

  • @seansalvador1 LOL. How much money do you have to lose? I used to be an evolutionists,,, that is when I was a misinformed child. But guess what.. I decided not to simply believe what the government was telling me and instead looked into it for myself. I am now a young earth creationist because that is what the evidence clearly supports. You should be a man and do the same thing. Stop being such a doltish sheep.

  • @thechessstick Are you seriously suggesting that scientists 'start with misinformation and build upon it' regarding Evolution FACT. So as a Creationist, what's the alternative Einstein? Adam and Eve, The Garden of Eden, a talking, a rib and an apple?

  • @TheFestivelights The Genesis account has been proven to be true time and time again. Look at all of Ron Wyatt's discoveries. Most evolutionists simple hear the lies about Ron's discoveries. This is because they, the evolutionists, are simple themselves. They do indeed pat each other on the back and just love the free money they get for propagating this lie. But to give up their soul to eternity in Hell for a few dollars in this world? How foolish.

  • @thechessstick

    I've completely refuted that nonsense about Wyatt's supposed discoveries without you addressing it before!

    Wyatt found a hill, a hill that doesn't even look like a boat, and then claimed it was a boat. His video spliced images of people digging some wood out of another hill. That is not scientific evidence.

  • @thechessstick 'The Genesis account has been proven to be true time and time again'....So it is Adam and Eve, the Garden of Eden, ribs, apples and a talking snake for you. Please, oh please tell me you're not a teacher?

  • @TheFestivelights Talking snake and apples? What are you talking about? You have never even read the Bible, have you?

  • @thechessstick no that's in there i have read it

  • Not all Christians think that the earth is 6000 years old. The Bible doesn't say that anywhere, and simply adding the ages from Adam to Noah isn't gonna work.

    He is referring to Kent Hovind, a person who makes money on selling nonsense to Christians. He's an insult to Christianity. And so is mr Dawkins an insult to science. In stead of examening why we are only 150.000 years old. Tops. So, we are 26 evolutionary jumps away from a monkey. every 5800 years an evolutionary jump? YEAH. Bullocks!!!

  • @CamoKhan2000

    Brilliant! All you have to do is publish your theory in a reputable science journal like Nature... and boom! You've disproven Dawkins and even Darwin!

    What are you waiting for?

  • @MegaSensimilla It's not my theory. It's your own, if you are an evolutionist. I didn't come up with these contradicting facts. Scientists did. I could copy and paste their own scientific publications for you. Why don't you do it yourself? Anyway. Dawkins and Darwin and other idiots want to make us believe that we are the result of random mutations. Screw that, and anybody who believes that kind of nonsense. The evolution theory is 150 year old bullshit from Darwin. Think of a better explanation

  • @CamoKhan2000

    1m thing:

    Take a look at your toes and fingers. Yes, you have hair on your fingers and toes.

    Now, why did god put hair on your fingers and toes? To keep them warm?

    When you get hot, do you shave your fingers and toes to keep them cool?

    Hmmmmm... strange... why would you have hair on your fingers and toes?

    Evolutionary biology has proven that the hair on your fingers and toes are VESTIGIAL REMNANTS of our COMMON ANCESTRY WITH THE APES.

  • @MegaSensimilla I'm looking at my fingers and my toes. He, they look human!. No monkey skin, no monkey bones, no monkey muscles. And he, my brain is triple the size of a of monkey brain. All that in 150,000, or wait, I'll give you 300,000 years. The theory sounds nice, really. So go on, make it happen. Grow less chromosomes, make about 26 evolutionary jumps in no time. All by chance, of course.

    Just get me a better theory, please. Or a whole pile of missing links in the form of skeletons.

  • @CamoKhan2000

    "I'm looking at my fingers and my toes. He, they look human! No monkey skin..."

    But lots of monkey hair! LOL!

    Way to ignore the big hairs sticking out of your toes. Again I ask you, what possible reason could god have to put HAIR ON YOUR TOES?

  • @CamoKhan2000 unfortunately you do have "monkey" bones. in fact all mammals have the same skeleton. the size and shape of certain bones are different though. a bat and yourself have the same amount of bones and all in the same place.

    Homo Sapiens have only been around for 150,000 years, but we split from our common ancestor with chimps about 6 million years ago. 

  • @CamoKhan2000 between 1 million and 100,000 years is not "in no time". Also, it takes much less time, given a large enough selection pressure! Look at Italian wall lizards, when introduced to a tiny island off the coast of Croatia, since the 70's they have evolved completely new digestive systems, larger heads, stronger jaws to eat the vegetation there!

    Citation?

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    news (DOT) nationalgeographic (DOT) com (/) news (/) 2008 (/) 04 (/) 080421-lizard-evolution (DOT) html

  • @CamoKhan2000 I could give you other examples, but one will suffice in destroying your argument from ignorance.

    "All by chance, of course."

    No, all by natural selection, of course.

    "Or a whole pile of missing links in the form of skeletons."

    You mean like -

    Archaeopteryx lithographica, Vampyronassa, Conodont, Cyclobatis, Hippocampus sarmaticus, Cretatriacanthus, Tiktaalik, Acanthostega, Eryops, Eupodophis...

    The list is literally massive (it weighs millions of tons in fossils). Enough?

  • @CamoKhan2000 "I didn't come up with these contradicting facts"

    What contradiction facts? Whoever said that speciation takes millions of years? No one.

    "The evolution theory is 150 year old bullshit from Darwin"

    No, the current form of the theory (which explains the fact that animals evolve, something that is not up for dispute unless you are literally a complete moron) is called modern evolutionary synthesis, and includes genetics, something of which Darwin knew nothing.

  • @CamoKhan2000 "Screw that, and anybody who believes that kind of nonsense."

    ...and here we have the entirety of your argument. You don't like the idea, so you refuse to study it to find out exactly what it's about and instead pretend to know what it is, than attack that idea you have made.

    It's a straw man and the argument from incredulity/ignorance.

  • @CamoKhan2000 "And so is mr Dawkins an insult to science"

    The Dons at Oxford don't seem to think so, nor do any other scientists i've ever heard of...

    "every 5800 years an evolutionary jump? YEAH. Bullocks!!!"

    I gave you a link to show how fast evolution can work.... in fact, it was somewhat of a paradox as tro why it does take so long, and the theory of punctuated equilibrium also put forth that animals may well evolve in leaps and bounds, but has since been shown not to be the case.

  • @CamoKhan2000

    PS

    Punctuated equilibrium IS evolution, it does not refute it in any way, merely it was an idea about a small part of the mechanism.

  • @seansalvador1 The "Hopeful Monster" "theory" is even funny than evolution! LOL

  • @thechessstick

    What has that got to do with anything i said?

  • @thechessstick

    Punctuated equilibrium is not the same as the 'hopeful monster' hypothesis. In fact, it is entirely different!

    Punctuated equilibrium is a hypothesis as to the graduation of evolution, not another theory entirely!

    Also, you will note that in modern evolutionary synthesis, punctuated equilibrium AND the 'hopeful monster' hypothesis the fact that animals evolve is what they are all attempting to explain.

  • @CamoKhan2000 You are quite ignorant concerning these things.  Do some more research and see, after examining the facts, if you come to the correct conclusion that the Earth is only about 6000 years old and that the Genesis account is true.

  • @thechessstick I don't think that at all. But surely I don't buy the Dawkins story either. And let me remind you that he proposes a theory. And a theory doesn't have anything to do with reality. A theory is a nice sounding fable, and when sucked out of the thumb of a scientist, still has a status as such. If all he has is a bone fragment called Lucy and and a nice theory, screw him. When studying our DNA it is clear that we have been artificialy manipulated with. By advanced off world beings.

  • @CamoKhan2000 I will simply note that you failed to address my comments in reply to you. No wonder you don't believe it, you are wantonly ignorant of the evidence even when it is presented to you in discussion!

  • @CamoKhan2000 "And a theory doesn't have anything to do with reality. A theory is a nice sounding fable"

    A scientific theory is a description of a mechanism of facts. Theories describe facts, such as gravity. Gravity is a fact, the theory of relativistic gravity describes how gravity works.

    That animals evolve is a fact, the theory of modern evolutionary synthesis describes the mechanism by which animals evolve.

    Cont...

  • @CamoKhan2000 It's strange how many creationists do not understand the meaning of the word and confuse it with hypothesis, even though the first definition in every dictionary i have ever looked at is the scientific definition, not the colloquial, which in science is called a hypothesis.

  • @seansalvador1 You just keep inventing new stuff as you go. Why involve creationists in all this? They are an insult to religion, just as mr Dawkins is to science. And a hypothesis is still not representative for reality. Something a lot of people still refuse to admit, apperently. There can be as much evolution in the galaxy as you want, but we were created. By intelligent off world beings. The HAR 1 molecule is proof for that. Perhaps we were created out of an already evolved being, a humanoid

  • @CamoKhan2000 LOL at the part about our DNA having been manipulated with. The Earth is only about 6000 years old. And just as the Genesis account says Angels came down to Earth and interbred with man.

  • @thechessstick The Bible doesn't say anywhere that the earth is 6000 years old . And the Adam that is spoken of in the Bible is not the first Adam. The only thing that you can conclude is that we are 6000 years away from that last Adam (= worker). But I give up discussing anything with anybody. As long as you believe that Jesus is your Lord, and you behave, you'll be fine. All the other people who think they have it all figured out will not be granted eternal life. And that is the end of it

  • @CamoKhan2000 Are you a Mormon or a Branhamite? You talk like one. Adam was indeed the first man and Eve was the first woman. Paul speaking figuratively said that Jesus was the last Adam. Do some more research. Keep learning! Maybe a few Ron Wyatt, Kent Hovind or A. E. WIlder-Smith videos would help.

  • @thechessstick No. I walk with God. That means I find myself in heaven on a regular basis. Let me start by stating that the Bible is true from Genesis to Revelation, the chapter we are in now. And I know that the earth and the world are two different things,. Wolrd means age. So, there can be more worlds on one planet. In different times. The Lord arrived on earth hundreds of thousends of years ago. I can talk for weeks about my adventures in the heavens, but i want you to stick to the Bible.

  • @CamoKhan2000 Wow! The insight you two share. So powerful. What I'd like to know is just exactlly what makes you, both of you, so special that 'god' has revealed himself to you? Don't bother answering that. You have no answer. Just keep on pouring over your bronze-age scribblings looking for truths... maybe that way you'll stay busy enough DOING NOTHING to bother anybody else with your babbling nonsense. There is no god. If there is, have him come down and have a cup of tea wit me

  • @CamoKhan2000 "...the Bible is true from Genesis to Revelation..."+"...The Lord arrived on earth hundreds of thousends of years ago..." = self contradiction

  • @4hm35319hd0h5 No, it doesn't. Read the Bible better. Start with the first couple of sentences and you have your millions of years.

  • @CamoKhan2000 You are so full of nuts, just grinding you up would make excellent spread... Get off the internet, please... Live your life and stop living in your fantasy world...

  • I wish there were more people like Richard Dawkins, a LOT more, hes lovely

  • Only 50% of the american population vote. So there goes that point.

  • @ReX342 Point? dude, l2joke

  • Mark?