John Wayne & Ezra Taft Benson - The Vietnam War

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THE GOLF OF TONKIN

[AfterAll16Z]

Load of Bullshit and Obfuscation

[MasterPieceArms]

America didn't turn it's back on Chang Kai Sheck (sp), the globalist conspirators who operate on behalf of the international banking establishment, aka the beast, abandoned Sheck (led by traitor henry kissinger). The globalists wanted to poison American's desire to ever go in the defense of a nation attacked by communists. Sadly, the globalists got their wish on all counts.

[TrishaDishaWarEagle]

This would have so worked..total and complete anihilation of anything beyond the stone age in northern vietnam, and if the chicoms came in, blast them too.

Instead, liberals undermined the war effort and SE asia fell under the brutal subhuman condition of communism for over 25 more years.

[fluffy1931]

@TrishaDishaWarEagle ..,your revisionist fantasy is breathtaking, dude. Vietnam joined the WTO in 2007' and is part of southeast asias emerging economys with a majority of the population that wasn't even alive during the war.

Vietnam was a proxy against the backdrop of a 'Cold War' which ended with total collapse of the soviet union. The US after it's withdrawl from Vietnam continued a economic blockade of Vietnam for over 25 yrs and won.

pls gtfoh

and hug a tree.

[drinkswithnedkelly]

Wonderful to see the Mormon prophet advocating war and death. Good on ya Benson, you warmongering motherfucker

[rebelnomo]

@drinkswithnedkelly Not everybody is a spineless pussy like you.

[drinkswithnedkelly]

@rebelnomo True. Some are warmongering pieces of shit like you.

[rebelnomo]

@drinkswithnedkelly Warmongering? lol that's funny. I don't want any god damn war at all unless we have to. Iraq and Afghanistan were both mistakes imo.

[matthewakian2]

WTF???

[Pizuzuzimmer]

The Duke loved any war so long as he didn't have to fight it. Nice work in WWII, Dukey! Fucking piece of shit hypocrite.

[TheClam88]

@Pizuzuzimmer Yep-you make an excellent point.

[NJburbsSeeker]

Dictate rather than negotiate. More leaders need to remember that.

[exenrontexas]

Unfortunately history has proven both the Duke and Mr. Taft wrong. Wrong about Vietnam, wrong about China and wrong about the Cold War. The free world did not collapse due to the loss in Vietnam and China actually fought a WAR with Vietnam after we left. What IS true is that there were some very evil people on both sided promoting continual war for profit and that has been going on for a long time. Read General Butler's "War is a Racket" for detail. The US is the worst war monger in the world.

[agumon12]

so... we're already adopting socialism. I say it's time to fight back, and if we are to lose, then, lets give them hell before they take us down.

[exenrontexas]

@agumon12 The worst welfare socialist programs in America is CORPORATE Socialism where hundreds of billions are handed out to large corporation EVERY YEAR and few of them pay any taxes. I worked for the sixth largest US corporation which paid NO TAXES AT ALL in the last four out of five years they were in business. And NOW thanks to the GOP dominated Supreme Court, corporations which are NOT mentioned in the Constitution have UNLIMITED political contributions. There is NOTHING more evil.

[MrSerathor]

@exenrontexas

Some people say that merging of State and corporations is Fascism not Socialism! According to them US has become Fascist now. In Socialism workers had big rights, people had free education, health care, etc. But those things are not present in US 2day.

[exenrontexas]

@MrSerathor My issue is not fascism or socialism but rather government BY, FOR and OF the people like Lincoln said. That may seem like socialism but it is not. IF the people through their representatives want to do ANYTHING for themselves with certain reserved issues being protected, then government should do it. If the majority wants national healthcare, then so be it and it most assuredly seems that they do, then it is not socialism by democracy in action. Read the Preamble to the Constiution

[tdibent1]

Sounds EXACTLY like the health care legislation (Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act) signed into law AGAINST the wishes of a majority of US Citizens polled!

Next up, Global Warming. Google French Geophysicist Dr Claude Allegre, an initial supporter who recanted his support AFTER all the UN Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change data was received.

[snailseeker]

Rejection of all religion is freedom...

[snakes3425]

Why Ezra, why allow Chang Kai Shek to join the war??? Simple question Ezra why do you think Chang needed to be restored after he botched it in 1949??? Why do you think Chang needed to be put back into power when the people hated his guts the last time he was in Beijing??? Because he was a Nationalist??? Because he called Taiwan the Republic of China??? Simple questions Ezra how about some simple answers???

[MrSerathor]

@snakes3425

Ezra is dead and won' be able to answer you, sorry Mate.

[haidermann1]

John Wayne and Ezra = Helaman and Captain Moroni.

I'd loved to be led by that team in a conflict.

[Liftnsetem]

Ya cant Argue with John Wayne................Even he had used good common sence

[carefulcarpenter]

I come from a lineage of 21 of the families that signed the Declaration of Independence. Most were 1st to 3rd cousins. I was raised by a family of long and distinguished family members, many of which were generals and decorated officers. My own father enlisted at 17 years of age as a CO and became a medic in WWII.

This video saddens me that many Americans believe they understand what patriotism is about by preaching a hateful philosophy and fear-based religion.

[bumpercoach]

Freedom is the ultimate humanitarianism, and these two are unsurpassed as great Americans of the 20th century.

[Snotra]

Thank God, Pope John Paul the Great, Lech Walesa, Ronald Reagan, Margaret Thatcher , etc.. played dedicated rolls in the ultimate game of chess with Russia,(on a global scale), to topple the Marxist, Godless regime!

[GohModley]

The Domino Theory. As goofy a myth as Mormonism itself.

[Eaglesfaninca]

It must be nice to be a old man and too old to go fight yourself eh John? After you made your money during WW2? I wish there was a hell for him to burn in.

[UTAOUB]

I used to believe the Vietnam War was a valid fight for freedom. (I still believe that Liberty for All is the best policy, and that Totalitarianism is H...l). But then I learn that the Vietnam War was being fought so that the United Fruit Compnay could retain it's markets in S.E.Asia. American boys DYING so that the United Fruit Company could retain its markets? NO!!!!! Then, just now, I listen to this video....& I don't know wht to believe! Except TYRANNY, NO -- FREEDOM, YES!

[TheWorldFarOff]

Vietnam is where we left it: ready to steal our freedoms...

[5hr3w3d]

The same philosophy applies today. We are already in Afghanistan and Iraq. We are winning this war. Let's not withdraw too quickly, and forfeit the gains we have already made.

BUT, let's not enter another war in any country unless it is thrust upon us. Only then can we expect to have Providence, the peaceful world community, and the American People on our side.

[dave777blaster]

I remember 1962 Americans wore Suits and walked upright and spoke with respect

were revered the world over

Today they wear their pants around their knees, respect no one , walk around like a bully. and is hated the world over.

Back then Americans were well educated and you got out of High school or University with and education

Today are poorly educated pass High school even if your illiterate .and come out of University well indoctrinated .

through all of this Americans have not stood up

[Wreddog427]

War is a big money maker and the biggest racket going. All this whoplaw sounds familar. We now have the tech to never have to put a boot on the ground and still win any war, why dont we use the tech we got?? I dont like seeing my fellow americans comming home with no legs or in a body bag. No, if there were no money in war, nobody would ever fight one again. Arms and legs and human lives are very cheap!! I love america but their is a better way to settel things than this B.S we got working now..

[flipsidevideo]

I couldn't agree more!

[Tazhansen11]

@Wreddog427 you raise a good point. but i respectfully disagree. war is how we became a "FREE" nation. or as they said in the Bourne Identity, "i'm gonna go and get him, why dont you book the conference room, maybe you can talk him to death!"

[robinsl27]

@Tazhansen11 do you know the reason the U.S was at war with Vietnam?

[red5llaw]

@Wreddog427

I am sorry but you are sadly misinformed. No war can be won without the Use of the Humble Infantry. Classic evidence is the Hubris of the Air Force "With Nuclear Bombers there will never be another war". Today missile armed drones are Obama's answer to the war in Afghanistan. All of these are no good without people on the ground determining whether "The Target" is actually there & not a Busload of Women & Children.

War is waste, war is evil. Sometimes war is a necessary evil.

[infectedvector]

@Wreddog427 Win a war without "putting boots on the ground"? "Arms and legs and human lives are cheap"? Its easy to see you've never been in the military. Wars are ONLY won by boots on the ground. Technology is important and our combat technology is amazing, but wars are won by willpower than anything else. History is rife with wars lost depsite tech advantage. The Vietnamese outlasted our national will and prevailed. $ as the sole source of human conflict? What planet do you come from?

[ErikLiberty]

@infectedvector [1] Most wars are fought over $. Smedley Butler was a Major General in the U.S. Marine Corps, and at the time of his death the most decorated Marine in U.S. history, being one of 19 people to twice receive the Medal of Honor. As wikipedia states, "He became widely-known for his outspoken lectures against war profiteering, U.S. military adventurism, and what he viewed as nascent fascism in the United States...

[ErikLiberty]

@infectedvector [2] ...In 1935 he wrote the exposé War Is a Racket, a trenchant condemnation of the profit motive behind warfare. "I spent 33 years and four months in active military service and during that period I spent most of my time as a high class thug for Big Business, for Wall Street and the bankers. In short, I was a racketeer, a gangster for capitalism. I helped make Mexico and especially Tampico safe for American oil interests in 1914...

[ErikLiberty]

@infectedvector [3] ...I helped make Haiti and Cuba a decent place for the National City Bank boys to collect revenues in. I helped in the raping of half a dozen Central American republics for the benefit of Wall Street. I helped purify Nicaragua for the International Banking House of Brown Brothers in 1902–1912. I brought light to the Dominican Republic for the American sugar interests in 1916. I helped make Honduras right for the American fruit companies in 1903...

[ErikLiberty]

@infectedvector [4] ...In China in 1927 I helped see to it that Standard Oil went on its way unmolested. Looking back on it, I might have given Al Capone a few hints. The best he could do was to operate his racket in three districts. I operated on three continents."

[ErikLiberty]

@infectedvector [5] Having boots on the ground is only meaningful when one government army is fighting another. Against a people's army of civilian guerrillas it is meaningless because guerrilla warfare is vastly more effective. Consider this as food for thought. An M1A1 tank costs $35 million. An RPG-29, which can easily penetrate any part of the M1A1, costs $1k (officially). Some ordinary guy can just have one stuck away in a closet and wait until an M1A1 drives by and poke it out the window.

[ErikLiberty]

@infectedvector [6] ...This is why Vietnam/Afghanistan/Iraq are so baffling to the politicians. The proper resident uniformed armies get rolled in 5 seconds every time. It's the civilians after that who win it. In Vietnam every village was an ambush. The enemy was unknown. A grenade would just drop down your pants out of nowhere. Occupation was impossible. The only option against such tactics is to kill and destroy everything and everyone on sight, which nullifies the purpose of being there...

[ErikLiberty]

@infectedvector [7] ...Though that is always done to some extent, it only delays the inevitable.

All that is needed for a civilian army to really defend itself is rifles. Tanks and planes are useless because a civilian population can absorb government armies. All that tanks do is drive around in circles wasting gas in meaningless "show of force" displays.

[AmmoMan0]

@Wreddog427 The Air Force had the same vision in the 1950's, that ground war was a thing of the past.Truth is the Air Force will never take a foot of ground. You can bomb and strafe all you want but until there is a soldier standing on that ground it is the enemy's ground. Furthermore war is not for making a profit, WWII was about stopping the spread of an evil, Korea, and Vietnam were about stopping the spread of communism which is detrimental to the american way of life.

[AmmoMan0]

@AmmoMan0 Desert Storm / Desert Shield was to prevent a tyrannical dictator from spreading his power. And now the Global War On Terrorism is about protecting our way of life again this time the threat is from muslim extremists who seek to destroy the western way of life. What happens to our heroes is tragic, we could never do enough to show our respect and admiration, or to heal their wounds. I.Y.A.A.Y.A.S.

[windstorm1000]

@Wreddog427 You got it. We don't seem to be learning do we.

[sass225]

@Wreddog427 Until you have Boots on the ground you control nothing. we do not nor ever will have the tech to win a conflict without sending in men on the ground to see whats really there. america dropped more bombs during veitnam than in all of ww2. uselessly blowing up jungle or sand wins nothing. and in 10 years less than 7000 americans were killed in iraq and afganistian thats incredible improvment over the 58,000 killed in veitnam in the same time period

[SirWolfgaar]

BOOYAH! "Dictate, rather than negotiate the terms of peace"!!!

Fark yeah!!! That's what we need to do today in the middle east too!

[flipsidevideo]

Ezra Taft Benson's position was to not enter the war in the first place. His withdrawal plan made sense, "since we are already there, let them (US Soldiers) finish the job they thought they were sent here to do." (Kick the communists out) and then go home. The key to the whole approach was to stand behind Chiang Kai Shek, who had 600,000 troops ready to fight the communists, which we didn't, and the whole thing ended up being a complete blunder!

[awolLDSasap]

Benson wasn't up for the draft either. His plan would have created an early Iraq. This war killed 50000 and was nothing more than a police action. Complete macho stupidity by the leaders.

[BrianTerrill]

Benson was not the one who put those soldiers in Vietnam to fight in the first place, Kennedy and Johnston did that

[UShistoryX2]

Perhaps... These men were right?

[arugakki]

Vietnam: The hippie's greatest victory and America's most stupendous blunder.

We really are a nation of idiots.

[threenephites]

Wow, I had no idea that Ezra Taft Benson was this deluded. Sounds like your typical brainwashed Neo-con.

[BJZnRPZ]

WOW WHAT A BAD RAP THEY HAD TO LEAD PPL IN. LMAO, no psyching out the government, thats why they rebelled. i dont think a politician has ever been the same since that war. BESIDES THE LYING.

[patrickthesaint]

Wayne talks tough for a guy who dodged the draft.

[tguitar200]

John Wayne did not dodge the draft. In fact, he signed up for the Navy and was denied. When WWll broke out, he was going to submit his papers again, but then had a career that kept him preoccupied.

[patrickthesaint]

Sorry, you're wrong. Wayne signed never tried to enlist.

[dontleademsomuch]

wayne was like an icon for the grunts. read the short-timers.

[LetsGoDoFunStuff]

Great clip! Thanks a bunch!

[jplumads]

You were right, Mr. Wayne. We lost all the good leaders and icons like you and Bensen. We're infested with Marxist-Leninist filth. The world will soon have a thousand years of darkness.

[flipsidevideo]

In 1968 Ezra Taft Benson warned the American People that this was the year ( 1968 ) for America to make a decision. A decision of whether they would continue down the road of Socialism or mend their ways and choose Liberty and freedom.

As you correctly pointed out, America chose to follow the pathway towards Marxism.

[Pizuzuzimmer]

@flipsidevideo

And you're high as a kite.

[RespectShmaa]

@flipsidevideo Marxism? lmao @ uneducated americans who don't know what marxism is.

[Backlap]

@jplumads

A thousand years? Let's hope not. Technology can and must change the game.