Petter Diesel 3 - Wet Cold Start - Shut Down Mixer

[Bevoin1970]

@liam21157 Ok Liam I will If ever I see him again, I saw two Sitra's myself today too, may well have been the same ones. :-)

[steamwally]

Hmmm, I'm thinking of getting another diseasal engine for my collection.....I recon an AC1ZS would go niceley under the other workbench if I remove the shelf.....

[Bevoin1970]

@steamwally I must admit I do like a nice diesel engine, they seem bullet proof enough. Wished I'd still got this mixer now, sold it on didn't I, it should be in Africa as we speak, thats where it was supposed to be going via a container.

I would definitely have another PAZ1 I think...

Go for it... ha ha - I just see it as an investment, beats stuffing it under the mattress. LOL

[steamwally]

Well I've just had a look in the workshop and I recon that if I remove the shelf from the oak workbench then the Amanco would go under there and I could get a PAZ1 under the taller workbench :)

[simonspaz]

I thought it was going to keep hunting like that at first. Glad to hear it went away after it warmed up.

[Bevoin1970]

@simonspaz Yes once warmed up she ran as sweet as a nut all day long.

[enginelover1]

Mine is ac1z not ac1zs it`s the same but your biger flywheel. My stop lever doesn`t work.

[Bevoin1970]

@enginelover1 I have sold this since and now regret it. - This mixer should now be living in Africa as thats where it was supposed to be getting shipped too by the chaps who collected it.

[steamwally]

Just got my AD1, video of it running soon!

[chox2001]

great engine I have 3 of these and videos. if its cold or wet I always prime as mine are cord start and its a pain rewinding the cord a few times.

[markumhosta2000]

i made mistake on previous comment that would be ab1 instead of ab2. I think they were starting to made an ac2 in early 1970's just before i came back hime. i might still have a service manual stuck away somewhere. if you ever needed spares i would try lister at glouster. they both were owned by hawker siddley at one time enjoyed your videos

[Bevoin1970]

@markumhosta2000 Thanks for all this info, brilliant.

Latest news on this mixer is I have now sold it on unfortunately. It is destined for Africa Im told by the person who bought it...

However I still retain my Petter PAZ1 - no way is this going to Africa :-) plus I also own a Lister LR1 so all this useful information is still very much gratefully received.

Thanks all.

[markumhosta2000]

when i worked in the service department.in the autumn first cold morning with the aa1, ab2 and ac1 and with the cast iron engines we would get complaints of engines not starting. we couldn't get to them that day and would tell them to change the engine oil, if that didn't do the trick to call back. usually the oil hadn't been changed since last autumn.. I always liked the crank start better than rope start. I would not use anything except clean engine oil. rotella oil was what we used i think.

[minedronebiznis]

the circulating of oil first is rather pointless really- if anything it is putting excess wear on the engine, as it is not turning fast enough for the oil pump to pick up and pump properly- youde be better off starting it straight off, and the pump would be working at speed.

[Bevoin1970]

@minedronebiznis Now you saying this has thrown a totally different slant on things - What you might call a curved ball...

Now Im going to have to re-think... :-)

Thanks

[markumhosta2000]

the object to using clean e4ngine oil as a primer is to help seal the valves. you can also advance the throttle which would help the govenor and amount of fuel that is available. its a pity that its all gone now .we made a million of the petter engines. what do you do for spares ?

[Bevoin1970]

I've heard it said that every town and village in the land had a Petter engine somewhere in it...  Thats quite something if its true.

Im told spares are readily available... Haven't needed anything myself just yet.

Thanks for the info.

[minedronebiznis]

@markumhosta2000 the priming is actually more oil to burn, which helps it start

[g7txu]

@minedronebiznis It does several things. It gets squirted straight into the inlet tract so it worked itself around the valve seat. It gets on the piston rings to get more lubrication and less let-by, it sits on top of the piston to increase the compression radio an it gives a cetane (fuel) boost. On later models the oil was drawn by using the dipstick as a pipette thus reminding generations of navvies to check the flaming oil level at the beginning of the day.

[Xerxesx20]

I particularly love the starting sound when it fires after the addition of oil.

Really does sound like something has broken! hehe. Then the revs pick up like the reliable beastie it is. 8-)

[Bevoin1970]

Its a cracking machine, very reliable.... :-)

[jaffa154]

iv got a engine just like that but he wont turn all the way around it goes half a turn then it goes clunk

[Bevoin1970]

That don't sound to clever, Wonder if the de-compressor is adjusted incorrectly and the Valve is hitting the top of the Piston? Just a thought.

[W16isrock]

Nice. It was a bit difficult, but it worked! Also, I have heard that priming with a bit of alcohol instead of oil works better. I don't know if you've tried this, but it doesn't make sense to me. Is alcohol compressable? Again, nice vid!

[Bevoin1970]

It's only difficult after not being used regularly. Normally fires up easily. A squirt of oil always does the trick. Not sure about alcohol though, and no I've never tried it on the mixer, only myself and that works !! Glad you liked video.

[05clenharth]

the object of the oil is not for it to ignite but to increse the compresion making more heat and igniting the diesel better

[weirdstuffanimation6]

i love the sound on these old engines

[Bevoin1970]

I love the start up process myself. More fun than just a key start.

[birdman404]

they should put these engines in some cars!!

[Bevoin1970]

These things use hardly any diesel at all !