What does it take to get to be a intel sts finalist. It was never about your monetary background as assumed, To become a finalist, you have to dedicate hours, and hours of your free time to this research. Many of these finalists go to public school. The reason they are so successful and go to good colleges is that they worked hard, I have sacrificed much sleep and social life learning calculus by freshman hs in order to conduct research. It is effort not monetary background that counts.
i don't understand the arguments that are in the comments below. It is the pursuit to win a highly prestigious competition. They add fun to the equation. What does it matter if you are from a rich or middle class family? this is a competition where everyone is treated the same.
@bradleynatarian That's an understatement. These kids spend more time on things that matter for the world than they do for school. In the end, they'll be at the bad end of the stick, having gone to a crappy college yet living in a country with an absurd dependency on (expensive) closed institutions.
@XFi6 I I was one of them for 3 years (08-10). These are the kids that will change the way the world works. They are solving the problems that really matter. Lots of them get to go to "(expensive) closed institutions" because of participating at ISEF. For instance, I will be attending Lehigh University for a double engineering major, and I have friends from ISEF who have gone to MIT, Standford, and UCLA. If anything, ISEF will make them better students, scientists, and engineers.
@CosmicKitten89 Because your chipmunk videos are helping children in Somalia so much... Don't talk down about people that are already making their mark on the world.
@bradleynatarian At least I didn't need my mommy or my daddy to teach me how to make those chipmunk videos. Elitist plutocratic scum riding on your family's laurels, are you not?
@CosmicKitten89 As a member of the lower middle class with hard working parents (neither of which attended college), I was surprised by how many of the finalists at ISEF are not rich kids with parents that do their work for them. I know what it's like to do something with no help from others. I have no rich family or university to sponsor me, yet I earned a spot at ISEF three years in a row with my own genuine research, and now I'm attending one of the best schools in the country.
@bradleynatarian Sorry if I made you upset. I just happen to know that a lot of the top winners at STS and ISEF ARE like that, rich and or with family that do their projects, I mean, but some of them are scum also, I even had a rather unpleasant experience with a couple of them over the internet... don't ask... I applaud you for striving in spite of that, as for me... well all I'll say is that if I had been in your shoes I'd be an MIT graduate right now instead of a...
What does it take to get to be a intel sts finalist. It was never about your monetary background as assumed, To become a finalist, you have to dedicate hours, and hours of your free time to this research. Many of these finalists go to public school. The reason they are so successful and go to good colleges is that they worked hard, I have sacrificed much sleep and social life learning calculus by freshman hs in order to conduct research. It is effort not monetary background that counts.
noobfreekill 2 weeks ago
i don't understand the arguments that are in the comments below. It is the pursuit to win a highly prestigious competition. They add fun to the equation. What does it matter if you are from a rich or middle class family? this is a competition where everyone is treated the same.
theastonishinmobinz 2 months ago
Those kids are my role models.
bradleynatarian 11 months ago 2
@bradleynatarian That's an understatement. These kids spend more time on things that matter for the world than they do for school. In the end, they'll be at the bad end of the stick, having gone to a crappy college yet living in a country with an absurd dependency on (expensive) closed institutions.
I wish them condolences for their bleak future.
XFi6 9 months ago
@XFi6 I I was one of them for 3 years (08-10). These are the kids that will change the way the world works. They are solving the problems that really matter. Lots of them get to go to "(expensive) closed institutions" because of participating at ISEF. For instance, I will be attending Lehigh University for a double engineering major, and I have friends from ISEF who have gone to MIT, Standford, and UCLA. If anything, ISEF will make them better students, scientists, and engineers.
bradleynatarian 9 months ago
@bradleynatarian I think you misunderstood what he was saying. He's not supporting those closed institutions.
musicmuscle123 6 months ago
@bradleynatarian People like you guys are the reason why third world countries still exist.
CosmicKitten89 3 months ago
@CosmicKitten89 Because your chipmunk videos are helping children in Somalia so much... Don't talk down about people that are already making their mark on the world.
bradleynatarian 3 months ago
@bradleynatarian At least I didn't need my mommy or my daddy to teach me how to make those chipmunk videos. Elitist plutocratic scum riding on your family's laurels, are you not?
CosmicKitten89 3 months ago
@CosmicKitten89 As a member of the lower middle class with hard working parents (neither of which attended college), I was surprised by how many of the finalists at ISEF are not rich kids with parents that do their work for them. I know what it's like to do something with no help from others. I have no rich family or university to sponsor me, yet I earned a spot at ISEF three years in a row with my own genuine research, and now I'm attending one of the best schools in the country.
bradleynatarian 3 months ago
@bradleynatarian ...you are??? I respect that. Good luck prevailing against the advantaged, and be grateful that you at least have parents ;/
CosmicKitten89 3 months ago
@bradleynatarian Sorry if I made you upset. I just happen to know that a lot of the top winners at STS and ISEF ARE like that, rich and or with family that do their projects, I mean, but some of them are scum also, I even had a rather unpleasant experience with a couple of them over the internet... don't ask... I applaud you for striving in spite of that, as for me... well all I'll say is that if I had been in your shoes I'd be an MIT graduate right now instead of a...
CosmicKitten89 3 months ago
@XFi6 you do know that more than half of the 2011 STS finalists are going to either Harvard or MIT?
mapler101 9 months ago