Looks like the guy is just trying to shift to quick for the rpm, but i would to if it had sat that long, not trying to over run a motor that sat for ever. Ive driven a few of these older style trucks, it can be a night mare if your brains not functioning or if ya didnt get a full pot of coffee in before trying to drive them lol
These trucks were made to be hard to shift so that way idiots couldn't drive them. Unlike today where any retard with a license can get behind the wheel and kill someone.
@THOMASOAKMAN It's hard to learn, i drove a 13 speed my first time last weekend, it takes practice shifting. You can practice getting in gears with no clutch with your 5 speed if you're careful, i do it all the time
can't bet the old fuck new i drive a 2010 T660 kenworth fucking hat it no power yeah and its got 550 HP yeah sucks!!!! lol will got to go bye drivers and be safe out there ok!!
I understand that it's harder than it looked and it looked medium hard. How is the restoration part going? Do you or any one have videos of the work or picktures that could be made in to a movie of some sort? I like classic cars and big rigs also. I would like to see pictures or videos of the finished rig when it gets done please. Thank you for the reply also.
Why were you having so much trouble shifting? Were you not double or teipple cluching or are you that unfirmilar wiht th shifting pattern? I am just wondering why you were grinding the gears os much. I have never driven a maunual that big befor so I do not understand and want to understand please. Nice video. I am glad you guys didn't tip that tuck over after all that would have sucked. Good luck wiht the restoration.
@ahnbra It a non synchomesh transmission, and with 2 sticks it's rather hard to shift it double clutching or not if you're not used to driving one. And the guy driving this hasn't driven a twin stick for awhile, just a little rusty but he has it good now.
@ahnbra you have to have the transmission spinning at the same rpm as the motor because there are no to get a good shift so you have to double clutch it and if you don't you grind the gears.. a truck tans is so much different from a cars do to not having synchronizers
@ahnbra dude those old trucks were box gear setup. you have to keep in mind these were a pain in the kester to shift. truckers are thankful these are gone
Update on the truck: It's been sitting for at least 2 years but we recently put a new set of battery's in it and it must of turned over once and it fired right up. Old diesels never die, they just look that way.
the oil truck shifts too early as well and has had 3 tourque converters since 2003, the 466E engine was a lemmon from the start. My boss had it to the dealer several times for injector problems, leaky oil seals and the tranny problems. Then once the warranty was up he had our own mechanic fix it, I have a friend who owns an apple orchard and has a 99 int,but with a standard and he has had his share of problems with the 466E as well,injectors and head gasket problems
yikes! the oil co. I drive for has a 99'int w/ the computerized allison and has been trouble on and off since it was bought new with at times irratic shifting while just driving along. I DO like being in controll of shifting gears vrs automatic ,I started on a 59 Int190 firetruck double clutching the SQUARE TOOTH tranny.
@john6218att yeah his allison was having trouble shifting, like it would usually shift too early and bog the engine down, but this time it did the complete opposite. I don't think it was an electronic allison. And it was kinda slow, with 4:33 gear ratio and the cummins turning 2400 it did about 62, but it was a lowboy truck so it's supposed to be gear kinda low
Jammin gears has got to be a fever. Cause' men become addicted to the grind. It takes a special breed, to be a truck drivin' man, and a steady hand to haul that load behind. Merle rocks.
Even with just over 10 years driving under my belt you do better with a twin stick than I could and I learned how to drive a truck in a 359 Pete with a twin stick. So ignore any grinding comments you get. I love those old trucks like that '49. They are real trucks. Not like these plastic things we drive now.
For those that are asking. The NT280 Cummins has 780 ft lbs of TQ. You don't want to use the clutch with this setup. Using the clutch will allow the input shaft to slow down. Once you get the input shaft going too slow and both boxes in neutral at the same time your done. You must completly stop to get it into any gear.
you have to move the shifters through neutral at the same time.. use both hands... lol i know it sounds crazy but it will work once u get used to it..
Not yet, it's been parked since we first brought it to dads friends house back around the date i uploaded this haha. He has like 3 other petes, a 42 (We are keeping orginal, it still has orginal 150 or 180 cummins in it) a 49 (this) and a 51. The 51 is getting a v12 in it.
This is my dads friends truck, the one that has a 51, 49 (this) and a 42 peterbilt. At his place he has over 100 detroit diesel motors sitting at his place that is someone elses. His place has a lot of stuff that can run haha.
That was the "hot set-up" in its day.....cool video! Love the old "johnny bar" on the dash. They looked like a train throttle or something!
BCRification 4 days ago
rad!
hotrodZack1948 2 months ago
What is that big lever on the pass side is that for the fifth wheel?
79tazman 2 months ago
Brings back memories. First truck was a '49, 335, 5x3, 255"wb. Love the old flat dash Pete's. Have fun!
NcalBiker 4 months ago
Looks like the guy is just trying to shift to quick for the rpm, but i would to if it had sat that long, not trying to over run a motor that sat for ever. Ive driven a few of these older style trucks, it can be a night mare if your brains not functioning or if ya didnt get a full pot of coffee in before trying to drive them lol
Cscholl1982 4 months ago
These trucks were made to be hard to shift so that way idiots couldn't drive them. Unlike today where any retard with a license can get behind the wheel and kill someone.
apollonorm 5 months ago
I wanna learn this art. My VW's 5 speed is so simple compared to this.
THOMASOAKMAN 5 months ago
@THOMASOAKMAN It's hard to learn, i drove a 13 speed my first time last weekend, it takes practice shifting. You can practice getting in gears with no clutch with your 5 speed if you're careful, i do it all the time
Hotrodx199 4 months ago
can't bet the old fuck new i drive a 2010 T660 kenworth fucking hat it no power yeah and its got 550 HP yeah sucks!!!! lol will got to go bye drivers and be safe out there ok!!
KENWORTH8470 5 months ago
@KENWORTH8470 English Motherfucker! Do You Speak It?
volkscom 2 months ago
I understand that it's harder than it looked and it looked medium hard. How is the restoration part going? Do you or any one have videos of the work or picktures that could be made in to a movie of some sort? I like classic cars and big rigs also. I would like to see pictures or videos of the finished rig when it gets done please. Thank you for the reply also.
ahnbra 5 months ago
Why were you having so much trouble shifting? Were you not double or teipple cluching or are you that unfirmilar wiht th shifting pattern? I am just wondering why you were grinding the gears os much. I have never driven a maunual that big befor so I do not understand and want to understand please. Nice video. I am glad you guys didn't tip that tuck over after all that would have sucked. Good luck wiht the restoration.
ahnbra 5 months ago
@ahnbra It a non synchomesh transmission, and with 2 sticks it's rather hard to shift it double clutching or not if you're not used to driving one. And the guy driving this hasn't driven a twin stick for awhile, just a little rusty but he has it good now.
Hotrodx199 5 months ago
@Hotrodx199 No point having "teeth" if you don't keep em clean! (old dad joke about grinding gears :P)
Dosen't anyone understand the term "crashbox" anymore?
forkdriver500 4 months ago
@forkdriver500 i don't think so, i think another term is dogbox but im not sure.
Hotrodx199 4 months ago
@ahnbra you have to have the transmission spinning at the same rpm as the motor because there are no to get a good shift so you have to double clutch it and if you don't you grind the gears.. a truck tans is so much different from a cars do to not having synchronizers
moparchris67 5 months ago
@ahnbra dude those old trucks were box gear setup. you have to keep in mind these were a pain in the kester to shift. truckers are thankful these are gone
deepwoodskentuckian 2 months ago
If it was newer way newer I would be the shit
240sxtwintubro 5 months ago
@240sxtwintubro why way newer? lol
Hotrodx199 5 months ago
FIND EM AND GRIND EM!!
herbienbrian2 5 months ago
ya gotta let go of the wheel to split shift it !!! shift both sticks at the same time and you won't grind it like that!!!
odatmatt 5 months ago
lov that truck i still drive an old 4 and 4 in a 74 kw loggin truck would not ask for anything else
roadhawk203 5 months ago
Sweet truck, Ya certainly carry out the phrase "if you cant find it, grind it" lol
TheJerseyhillbilly 5 months ago
the man taking the video is a great thinker I love the man shifting the transmission and I could only imagine the story the truck could tell!
ezzzstang1 6 months ago
If that truck could talk, I would definitely sit down and listen! Good stories for sure!
toyomore 6 months ago
Update on the truck: It's been sitting for at least 2 years but we recently put a new set of battery's in it and it must of turned over once and it fired right up. Old diesels never die, they just look that way.
Hotrodx199 6 months ago
is this truck for sale
FBIisurmama 6 months ago
sittin all those years and the brakes werent froze
TRUKER96 7 months ago
not easy to drive right
vincentkhoful 7 months ago
the oil truck shifts too early as well and has had 3 tourque converters since 2003, the 466E engine was a lemmon from the start. My boss had it to the dealer several times for injector problems, leaky oil seals and the tranny problems. Then once the warranty was up he had our own mechanic fix it, I have a friend who owns an apple orchard and has a 99 int,but with a standard and he has had his share of problems with the 466E as well,injectors and head gasket problems
john6218att 7 months ago
yikes! the oil co. I drive for has a 99'int w/ the computerized allison and has been trouble on and off since it was bought new with at times irratic shifting while just driving along. I DO like being in controll of shifting gears vrs automatic ,I started on a 59 Int190 firetruck double clutching the SQUARE TOOTH tranny.
john6218att 7 months ago
@john6218att yeah his allison was having trouble shifting, like it would usually shift too early and bog the engine down, but this time it did the complete opposite. I don't think it was an electronic allison. And it was kinda slow, with 4:33 gear ratio and the cummins turning 2400 it did about 62, but it was a lowboy truck so it's supposed to be gear kinda low
Hotrodx199 7 months ago
that's why Allison invented automatics
john6218att 7 months ago
@john6218att and that's why my friend blew up his cummins because the allison downshifted from 5th to 1st going 60 mph.
Hotrodx199 7 months ago
Lovely sound these old trucks have!!!!
Haffschlappe 8 months ago
how old was the diesel in it?
redneckmechanic5 8 months ago
Bellfountain OR and the Hull Oaks Lumber company I'm guessing?
cowboy1180 8 months ago
@cowboy1180 yes sir
Hotrodx199 8 months ago
@Hotrodx199 I lived up there when I was younger, and I spent a lot of time up in those hills.
cowboy1180 8 months ago
Quite a skill driving those by the looks of it.
mekydro 8 months ago
Jammin gears has got to be a fever. Cause' men become addicted to the grind. It takes a special breed, to be a truck drivin' man, and a steady hand to haul that load behind. Merle rocks.
BigHoss3030 8 months ago
Where is this truck located? Would he be willing to sell it? That is a sweet truck.
hcminis 9 months ago
It takes a driver for that truck not a steering wheel holder
oltrucksrule 9 months ago 6
Thanks, grind me a pound!
d4don2006 10 months ago
Even with just over 10 years driving under my belt you do better with a twin stick than I could and I learned how to drive a truck in a 359 Pete with a twin stick. So ignore any grinding comments you get. I love those old trucks like that '49. They are real trucks. Not like these plastic things we drive now.
EMD645E 10 months ago
Who was that that put a "dislike" up there? I wanna kick his ass!
DedhedWaldo 10 months ago 3
you should use two hands to change gears
estrellablanca 11 months ago
when your don breaking it ill fix it
hullchipper 1 year ago
@hullchipper its spelled done retard
ITFxTurbo 11 months ago
Takes Still to drive one of them Sons of bitchs . Respect !
ford1979truck 1 year ago
Seems to run quite well for it's age and after sitting. Was the engine rebuilt?
bj99ful 1 year ago
For those that are asking. The NT280 Cummins has 780 ft lbs of TQ. You don't want to use the clutch with this setup. Using the clutch will allow the input shaft to slow down. Once you get the input shaft going too slow and both boxes in neutral at the same time your done. You must completly stop to get it into any gear.
chris1422 1 year ago
grrrrrrrrrrrkkkkkkkk
MrBrap32 1 year ago
Are you serious two gear stick???
TheReid2 1 year ago
What's the tap on the dashboard? The one in front of you.
cipmars 1 year ago
@cipmars trailer brake handle for locking the brakes on the trailer
Webber362 1 year ago
Thank you.
cipmars 1 year ago
puta que pariu
LucioMauroBombeiro 1 year ago
If you can't Find 'Em, Grind 'Em ; )
CHEVYMUDJUNKY 1 year ago 31
this looks like hull oaks lumber company in or.
916toy 1 year ago
hey men, i have a question, this truck have air brakes ? in the 50´s the kenworths and peterblits had air brakes ?
MARTINIROCZ 1 year ago
You started out at hull oaks lumber, i would like to go there again...
NathansBackwoods 1 year ago
Precisa debrear a embreagem 2 vezes tambem antes de reduzir e passar as marchas!!!! thanks!!!
MAFM9984 1 year ago
need low clutch friend!!!
MAFM9984 1 year ago
i live in British Columbia so i see old trucks even these used as logging trucks all the time!
jimiot 1 year ago
kinda cool! (gear jamen)
dpalladini 1 year ago
kinda cool!
dpalladini 1 year ago
0:31-0:36 USE THE CLUTCH!!!!!! lol
SeaDollarsBertram 1 year ago
you have to move the shifters through neutral at the same time.. use both hands... lol i know it sounds crazy but it will work once u get used to it..
whb1965 1 year ago
Nice ride man. I would seriously take this over a ferrari any day lol
jpgbrookes 1 year ago
LOLOL 2:10
no catch? XD
MegaZsolti 1 year ago
@MegaZsolti LOL i just noticed that!
Hotrodx199 1 year ago
@Hotrodx199
Maybe become dentist-after all those teeth must be very 'clean' by now!
nem427 1 year ago
@Hotrodx199
What does 280 means, cubic inches ?.
johnsenkenn 11 months ago
@johnsenkenn hp
Hotrodx199 11 months ago
sounds ossim anyway
MegaZsolti 1 year ago
i ha ve always wanted a needle nose pete i came from a trucking family and i myself drive a truck
bob1862 1 year ago
sounds pretty good for being 61 years old
mrwireful10000 1 year ago
萌え☆
NTC335 1 year ago
clutchless gearchanges on the way up, allright I can get it ? But dont you gotta use when shifting down ?
uscar17 1 year ago
@uscar17 cclutchless downshifts can be accomplished (it takes a bit of practice) but it ca be done
MattytheDem 1 year ago
@MattytheDem alright ! Must be real hard
uscar17 1 year ago
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4NZZZ454CATEngine 1 year ago
Great truck I love old Petes... I would love to restore one myself someday, Great truck!
mrclean73 1 year ago
how much torque does this thing put out
xxbal1inxx 1 year ago
They will make them gears outta rubber next year lol just skrewin with ya. sounds good to me
nchayfarmer 1 year ago
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4NZZZ454CATEngine 1 year ago
I am wondering if you took off the mack rear ends and make this go faster?
4NZZZ454CATEngine 1 year ago
Well if we put Rockwell SQHD 5:29s it would do almost like our freightliner, which is about 60 mph.
Hotrodx199 1 year ago
@Hotrodx199 why dont u put timken or eaton rear ends on? :P
MegaZsolti 1 year ago
@MegaZsolti I guess we could. It would definitely go faster then 42 miles per hour then haha.
Hotrodx199 1 year ago
@Hotrodx199 lol
MegaZsolti 1 year ago
@Hotrodx199 hey i have an idea.
find a big dump trailer and make it a semi. :P
MegaZsolti 1 year ago
@MegaZsolti We are going to make it into a log truck!
Hotrodx199 1 year ago
@Hotrodx199 i just had an idea lol
MegaZsolti 1 year ago
Grind 'em!
4NZZZ454CATEngine 1 year ago
1:32 ther's the 12v71 1975 peterbilt 359 and the 3000HP truck! LOL!
4NZZZ454CATEngine 1 year ago
that was cool,,, when i seen it gettin pulled out,, i had no idea it was gonna run,,,
IRONSEAN7 1 year ago
Man, this is cool. How about an update on the truck?
jsmitty1974 1 year ago
Well it's been sitting since it's been brought home, nothing much to update but i'll make a post when there is one.
Hotrodx199 1 year ago
Whats the difference in the sticks. Like one is high gears one is low gears? I drive stick in my daily driver but this boggles my mind.
fgb729 1 year ago
im interested in getting a semi truck just to restore, if you dnt use it for hauling, do u still need a commercial license?
chevyboy4920 1 year ago
@chevyboy4920 most likely u will b/c of the weight and air brakes. but really its not hard to get a cdl.
13svincent 1 year ago
Why there is 2 gear sticks?
crazyoz25 2 years ago
This is what they used before the 13 speed was invented.
Hotrodx199 2 years ago 11
@Hotrodx199 before range changes and splitter boxes, there were two transmissions, main and auxiliary.
The newer designs just intergrated them into a more user friendly and smaller arangemnt.
Hotrod, love the vids man. Got diesel in my veins, and there arent many old girls like this left working in australia.
AceofSpadesau 11 months ago
@AceofSpadesau Nah mate, you just retire them from line haul and make gravel junkies out of them :)...not that old though.
forkdriver500 8 months ago
hahah reminds me of the inside of the duel truck...
dueltruck700 2 years ago
Oh this wasn't my dad driving haha. It was a friend of ours, this is his truck. My dad was following us going 42 mph top speed LOL
Hotrodx199 2 years ago
Has this truck been restored yet?
BigRiggerJ 2 years ago
Not yet, it's been parked since we first brought it to dads friends house back around the date i uploaded this haha. He has like 3 other petes, a 42 (We are keeping orginal, it still has orginal 150 or 180 cummins in it) a 49 (this) and a 51. The 51 is getting a v12 in it.
Hotrodx199 2 years ago
So, your dad just likes to buy old junkers and restore them?
BigRiggerJ 2 years ago
This is my dads friends truck, the one that has a 51, 49 (this) and a 42 peterbilt. At his place he has over 100 detroit diesel motors sitting at his place that is someone elses. His place has a lot of stuff that can run haha.
Hotrodx199 2 years ago
@Hotrodx199 oh ok, yea sorry i misread
BigRiggerJ 2 years ago
No worries man!
Hotrodx199 2 years ago
Shoulda told him, "Pull this shit over and let me give it a try!"
BigRiggerJ 2 years ago
hahaah yeah.
Hotrodx199 2 years ago
I would think the 4spd aux is a double under, direct, and OD. so 42 is tops even in OD, damn thats low
ramblinmantoo 2 years ago
that is cool that the truck is in good shape for it age and sitting so long
chevydodge85 2 years ago
that's what i'm talking about. my cousin has a '57 pete with a 5x4 trans.
calitrucker1 2 years ago
The rear axles look like Mack they are probably the old toploader Rockwells.
Graveltrucker 2 years ago
Yeah they are old toploader mack rear ends. The Ratio could be anywhere in the mid 6.00s range maybe near the high 6.00s range.
Hotrodx199 2 years ago
the off road petes came with mack the highway trucks had rockwells this guy also has a42 and a 51 also with mack bogies
logdog01 2 years ago
Man, how did they do it back then....big noisy rough riding twin stick trucks like that?
Find 'em, don't grind 'em!
tgardone 2 years ago
sure does make you respect the old timers, sitting in those tin can cabs all day&night
straightpipesrule 2 years ago 2
Amen to that! They were a different breed of men in those days.
mongo5888 2 years ago
SWEET!!!!!! lost as hell when it comes to shifting 5+4 transmission looks sweet!!!
christdholt 2 years ago
Oh well its always nice to be around antiques like that. Waiting on more vids from the kw with the 3406e. Thanks
puncho11 2 years ago
God, is there a truck u guys DONT have lol. Nice vid AGAIN!
puncho11 2 years ago
Well we only have 1 truck the 65 freightliner, this is a friend of ours which he also has a 42 peterbilt and a 51. He's dropping a 12v71 in the 51.
Hotrodx199 2 years ago
Very Cool! Thanks for the ride!
1968spawn 2 years ago
that is one REAL truck, asweome
uscar17 2 years ago
SWEET!
Macklowentry 2 years ago
thats sweet man i love blowing the dust off something old and letting er rip
MrNFortune 2 years ago
That is one awesome old truck :D
IDIDieselJohn 2 years ago
is that a brake lever in front of you?
keanerulz25 2 years ago
I think so yeah.
Hotrodx199 2 years ago
Looks like a train brake, lol
AgentHog 2 years ago
yeah haha
Hotrodx199 2 years ago
thats what i was thinking
keanerulz25 2 years ago
Sweet man!
Buckshot3715 2 years ago