Black Ops Hit Detection

[TheMeridianOfInanity]

HAHAHA

[tryinghardest]

Lag Ops for life?

[yuri19971932]

cod4>mw3>mw2

thats it....

[jhardman24]

modern warfare 2 also got bad hit detection but i never seen it in call of duty 3 or anything before.

[taijutsumaster15]

@jhardman24 Juat u talkin abaut Guillis?

[DriftLV1]

@jhardman24 Modern warfare 2 has the best hit detection in a cod game, you just must suck ass at aiming.

[yefpatterson]

It isn't bad hit decection! Everybody knows that the space behind you is where your head is at...

(Jokes people, don't take this seriously)

[axela619]

hit detection may be affected by lag but still lan black ops games have serious issues and people wonder why no cod mlg

[nonickworks]

i think i can explain this. because of the very realistic recoil, the guns were smashed into his face and he get killed ^^

[StevieSteve2094]

Dats y Blacks Ops sucks big dick but yet idiots still play it

[tunxxi]

@StevieSteve2094 i play it u mad?

[StevieSteve2094]

@tunxxi nope your just an idiot lol idk what more i have to say

[Leok450]

@ballhard006 Lol ik, but look at the date. Just a few days after the game came out.....

[TheXzzero]

did you use the theater mode cause it is screwy like this even for fine hits

[infinity0502]

It is not the matter caused by lag sometimes.

Hit detection fail even when Im da host, who should have 0 ping.

[xYanXnicKx]

i know how you killed him, the shells that fly out of your weapon, lololol

[InstantPKER]

For y'all haters around there, why the fuck you complay about black ops and praise modern warfare 2? Infinity Ward haven't done anything for people who complain about things they just get money comin' in and you people whine when treyarch even listens forums and gaming community..Like making sniper rifles better and so on.

-nuff said

[mattyzzzz]

@InstantPKER Sniper rifle's made better ? They were nerfed and made useless, nobody snipe's anymore and enjoy's it, Only idiot's say they want quickscoping out so it's more realistic how fucking real can someone want a VIDEO GAME.

[birdmanbob05]

@mattyzzzz i enjoy sniping and have no problems. now quickscoping is one of the worst ideas ever in a video game... i can handle noobtubers becuz its a real weapon. go find me one person that can runworud and quickscope.... oh wait you couldnt. that becuz they dislocated their shoulder on the first shoulder.... quickscoping is fucking stupid. and so are people who complain they cant do it.

[mattyzzzz]

@birdmanbob05 Okay again it is a GAME.

So what about hitmarker's not making people bleed to death ?

Running around with Light maching gun's that most people couldn't jog with ?

Sniping in this game is almost pointless.

The sniper's are weak and can't be used effectively in a match where everyone use's assault rifles'.

Quickscoping was fun and a good way to use sniper's that took skill.

I know for a fact if you had the skill to quickscope you wouldn't bitch about it being unrealistic.

[elementalfunk]

just play COD4, the real call of duty and the reason why this crappy game was hyped up so much in the first place.

[HazMat1010]

They'll sure as fuck patch every way to run around with a golden gun when you don't have 14th prestige, like its a serious game changing glitch. But they won't take the time to fix shit like this......what a waste.

[gthilly1]

the games sucks full stop treyarch bitches

[DrMisanthrope]

me and my buddies are always have full bars and still there are problems.

[superrkoman]

Theater mode

[fullysickman99]

omg CALL OF DUTY - LAG OPS



[Kuukkelix]

@johnnyex Hit detection is Black Ops is FAR WORSE than in MW2 for example, i think they use different style of mechanic on those since on MW2 i can play on 110ms+ servers fine with good hit detection, but on Black Ops 4 bar (Maximum) connection is just still really.. Autistic.

[elzouain]

If you have 3-4 bars in every match then you just suck, because I live in Latinamerica and I always get 2 bars and rarely 3. I'm prestige 10 btw.

[IUsedToBeAPygmy]

I wish COD was more like Killzone 3, that game rocks :-/

[XDlosDominicans]

Play Battlefield :P No lag 99.99% of the time, I SWEAR. In the thousands of games I played, only 1 lagged A BIT.

[TheRealninjAttack]

@XDlosDominicans true true Battlefield is a great game and I cant wait for Battlefield 3 to come out but right now I have to deal with this Call Of Duty bullshit

[AbusiveNapkin]

fail ops o_O

[ZamaskowaniSprawcy]

HONESTLY THIS GAME IS WORSE THEN EVERY CS AND EVERY BF AND EVERY FUCKIN OTHER COD.PLAY ANYTHING, BUY ANYTHING, JUST ANYTHING EXCEPT THAT

[bottz2]

Can people stop ranting about hit detection? If you are online, there is something called ping. That means that there is a split second, depending on how bad your ping is, that you dont see right away. Lag will often effect your game. It may not look like they hit you or it may look like you hit them to your system, but in real time you didnt... Its an elementary concept that idiots dont realize,,,

[johnnyex]

@bottz2 Good thing you brought it up. These "hit detection" issues are indeed caused by lag.

Lag is reduced to acceptable levels when using dedicated servers.

Lag will never be at competitive levels when using non-dedicated servers.

Why do you see lag in COD? Because the publisher didn't want to pay for servers, and the consumers keep buying the games anyway.

[freeruner5]

@johnnyex

ok but why sometimes i kill other guys with three bullets by shooting at their legs and other times the whole magazine in the chest does nothing, i have no idea what can be caused by lag and what cant but it really sucks

[Gazun94]

@johnnyex Bottz2 just got pwned

[TheFlyingracoon22]

@johnnyex Or you can just play on PC.

[possomcrast]

@johnnyex activision even admited this to me when i called them the other day

[patsonfire81]

@bottz2 I've had the same ping for many years and in MW2 it was way better than this. The only thing Black Ops has better is gameplay.

[gazzxr]

@bottz2 You are right , but in MW2 , if i have ping 1000ms i can still kill some one , because the HIT DETECTION is CLIENT side... unlike Server Side in BO .... search it on Wiki

[llinsane1ll]

@bottz2 Boy are you stupid to really think in a 1 sided view.

[Iiimplicit]

@bottz2 so then tell me please why is the hit detection much better in cod4 than in black cocks?

[Ghost652]

@Iiimplicit BECUASE CALL OF DUTY SUCKS AND IM PREPARED TO IGNORE A FLAME WAR!!!!

[bglasier]

@bottz2 Hey Dink, are you a network professional? Hey Dink, how come it's 10 times worse than Modern Warfare 2?

[lonespartan31289]

@bottz2 its also call HIT DETECTION DUMBASS!!! Treyarch even admitted to releasing the game without fully coding the hit detection, thats why snipers can shoot at a person who isnt moving and the bullet will simply pass though them...it still hasnt been fixed and Treyarch only cares about money, and since they already made their billion they dont support the game anymore

[MistaReezo]

@bottz2 Gimp

[YoOrK213]

@bottz2 and if u got 4 bars? ;) Good conenction? and this happens? srry dude .. Black ops hit D is fucked up

[leeham991]

@bottz2

Ping doesn't fuck up hit detection on any of the games I play.

CODwhore.

[Malgana]

@bottz2 Hardly "elementary", I mean you don't learn server maint. in kindergarten, right? I think it's a little bit more than just the connection issues for this game, some shots are just ridiculous. I use the M16 and sometimes I'll use one 3-round burst and kill a guy, other times it takes four or five 3-round bursts for some reason. Best example of poor connectivity would be Gears of War 1&2, host was always 2 secs ahead, but you still got results from your shots as non-host, just delayed.

[allstar00442288]

@bottz2 your a kiss ass bitch, this doesnt happen in mw2 or waw or cod4 nearly as much as in this game, they have shitty servers and its a problem that could be fixed but they are too greedy

[kingseho]

@bottz2 OR.......you're the idiot that can't realize that the fps are shit...they're not 60...the fps on hte xbox range form 50-60....on the ps3 it goes from 30-45 this game is shit. treyarch can't make good games you idiot. i'm pretty sure the hit detection was shit on cod3 cod 5 and cod 7....this game is shit and you're just another idiot who thinks its lag

[bottz2]

@kingseho ur just an infinity ward fanboy shit head

[Regret696]

@kingseho

Dont know about 3 but it was off in 5.

[BhamBANDIT]

the theater mode actually shows how messed up this game is, theater mode shows you the game from the host view, but if you dont see it when you play, how are you gonna shot them, i saw make an ultimate patch and fix it, and in a hurry

[Mickyjoethedazzler]

Hit detection is shit and that's basically what the game is shit!!!!!!

[OriginalLemming]

Who needs Hit Detection when you have drooling fanboys and hype?

[chelseaforever10]

Another reason why black ops is sooo fucking shit!!!

[linklime1]

it fucking TERRIBLE for the claymore i sawy a guy STAND ON TOP my claymore it we boom he went lul you mad? and killed me

[shazdee]

I was running accross an open area in wmd and was awarded points for a headshot kill. But I didn't fire any shots. glitchy or what.

[BadNinja16]

ROFL!!!

[thatdoomguy666]

Going back to Call of Duty 4. This game sickens me, like literally. I'm done with the Call of Duty franchise. It's just copy and paste for every fucking game.

[weplayed]

... that was fail

[TechnoDogge]

Happend to me on the same Map :D i really wtf'd but i was happy That i got an hs... But it was the winning Kill and everyone though i were hacking :/

[bondservant4Him]

mw2 is funner than Bo by a mile

[citrone76]

@TheSinisterTaco LoL

[ogfeen]

like WTF! its a fuckin disgrace

[H1TMANactual]

I am fucking tired of having this shit happen all the time. it's even worse when you get knifed by a guy not even looking at you

[ntrudr800]

@H1TMANactual I got knifed by a guy that knifed later than me today! I was sooo pissed, then realized after thinking about it--that I had most probably missed! I figured later that I must have knifed BESIDE him not ON him. I had almost passed him by FULLY when he decided to knife me, without turning sideways. LOL it was funny now that I think about it.

[marcster1994]

Well Hit detection is just a another name for lag

[foxsterrealnick]

Sadly, it's been like this since CoD4, and these host issues still piss me off. It's time that the CoD series get rid of this already. Seriously.

[evantaur]

steady aim pro

[citrone76]

Treyarch Fail...!!! Call of Duty Bug Ops...!!!

[lgreenl]

@citrone76 Oh god, like Modern Warfare 2 didn't have any problems, it was freakin perfect wasn't it

[Programmur]

@citrone76 apparently, don't buy the game then. -.-' jesus.

[wildfire1159]

failure!!!! treyarch u fail!!!

[ChaoticScaper]

Today i got 3 Hit markers with a L96 , and THEN it put him into last stand....Kinda ridiculous.

[Schmidteren]

I once ate a WHOLE turkey.... Oh my... good old times!

[HellsingDog]

The hit detection is crap - I can pour out a clip into a guys head, he doesnt die, he runs PAST ME, NOT EVEN TURNING AROUND - KNIFES DIRECTLY INFRONT OF HIM, and kill me. W.T.F.

[vader671]

@HellsingDog totaly agree with you. but, you have to understand, in call of duty it depends on the persons connection. which really ticks me off because i always have the exact problems in ur comment. maby i just need better connection,(lolz) or the game still needs some paches.

[numan11]

I can understand that the game may have some sort of lag compensation but this is obviously an example of just how bad the hit detection is on this game. None of the other CODs had an issue with hit detection as bad as this game's.

[TYUIO11111]

This does piss me of

they need to patch this i cant tell you how many times i shoot a guy in the head only to be killed by the guy whos aiming the wrong way!!

though i still like it better than MW2 lol

[Snip3rfy]

LMAO

[chelseaforever10]

WHAT...THE...FUCK!!!! That is complete bullshit

[TheOnlyDestroyer451]

Boom headshot

[l65chevelle]

Been shot around corners several times now. Not cool. Fix the damn hit detection treyarch!!!

[sargrizz]

Ive looked at the theater mode, many times it has lag issues with the bullets, could be the case here.

[johnnyex]

@sargrizz theater mode replays are exact replicas of the game - it saves object location data for the match

but what we see in the game is a strange mixture of where players actually are, and where our xbox perceives them to be - this is how it looked on my screen, but it probably looked normal on his screen.

[prismflash]

@johnnyex no, it's not an exact replay/replica of your game. It's like how killcam works too, on your screen the guy shot you through the wall, but on his screen you were standing in front of the door or something. It's the server's connection with the game play that does the work. Remember your game is not exactly recorded, but it is just simulated in a way that could be the closest to your own game.

[johnnyex]

@prismflash yes, it is an exact replica of how the game was played on my xbox. I realize the game plays out differently for people - I'm just talking about what the theater mode actually records.

[plazmaMX]

@johnnyex just saying it plays from the host's point of view.

[prismflash]

@johnnyex hmmm well you are right about the "HEAVENLY" hit detection of this game (see my sarcasm?) LULz anyways hopefully treybitch i mean treyarch would fix this issue, because although there's no commando, i've been seeing people teleport and stab someone...oii it's horrible

[nathan9384]

@johnnyex Just because you can type the words "theater replays are replicas of the game" doesn't just magically make it true, because its not. Try watching yourself in theater mode, especially if you're sniping, most of your shots end up looking like total misses. If it was like theater mode on Halo it would be exact, because that game saves it to your hard drive, but Black Ops has to download it from Treyarch after the data is sent from a game's host to Treyarch, and its not all that great.

[johnnyex]

@nathan9384 have you ever considered that most of the shots actually ARE complete misses? Because they usually are. Lag compensation makes the world go around.

[MatYangO]

@johnnyex It's like HLTV from CS 1.6 and Source TV from CSS.

[TheLastGuyStanding00]

@nathan9384

The theatre mode records EXACTLY what you and other players see. I've compared Capture-card to Theatre, and there's no difference. I've compared the same clip from multiple sources, and all 4 clips were identical.

I've come to the conclusion that what you see on your screen is not accurate. Characters seem to be about 2 feet behind what you actually see in-game.

Theatre mode records what the players see, but I think what they see isn't the actual game data.

[numan11]

@johnnyex I wonder if it looks the same from his point the other guys point of view. Only one way to find out. Show another video but this time from the other guys point of view.

[ntrudr800]

@johnnyex So who was lagging? The player or the enemy?

[johnnyex]

@ntrudr800 everyone lags as long as players put up with non-dedicated servers

[er876897]

@johnnyex so is it correct that theatre mode doesnt actually show exactly what the player might see? Because i have had many times where I shoot my gun, or make a knife lunge and actually see my arm in my screen, etc.. only to see in theatre mode that i did not fire that gun, or did not even attempt to knife, even though I am 110% sure that i did. Its frustrating, i even upgraded to 30 Mbps internet but it really made no difference.

[johnnyex]

@er876897 Maybe what you're experiencing with theater mode is evidence that theater mode records the match as it occurs on the host console. In other words, it may record the "true" events of the match. When you play a game online and pull the trigger, the game will depict that visually. But whether or not it "happened" depends on lag. If you are killed before your input data gets incorporated into the events of the match, you won't see it happen in theater mode (or the killcam).

[antimarxism]

@sargrizz There is ZERO lag in theater mode. Impossible! Where do you douchebags get this shit?

[antimarxism]

@AntiNBBForce The truth makes you butthurt. Not my problem.

[AntiNBBForce]

@antimarxism what? i deleted that comment, how the hell did you read it? youtube fails... anyways i didnt mean what i said in it anyways..

[nathan9384]

@antimarxism After playing 5 or 6 videos in a row theater typically starts lagging and you have to restart and try again, and then it works fine.  I'm the 360 so I know its an issue here, but I can't speak for PS3 or PC.

[antimarxism]

@nathan9384 The whole game is a constant piece of shit lagfest, with garbage hit detection, from garbage developers that still have no idea how to develop the basics of an FPS. Stop obsessing over theater mode.

[Owdene]

Now THAT'S a perk . . .

[dieselboy094]

That's pretty fudged up, if I do say so myself.

[Joseph4790]

wow......epic