Ives: "Three Places In New England" 1/3

[TedMichaelMorgan]

It is delicate. Thank you for posting this fine performance of this great American work.

[LaPersonaNonGrata]

This stuff's to tragical for me!!! 

[jhnxsmth]

Why is this recording so fucking quiet? I can barely hear it at max vol.

[KiCreativeStudio]

Long live the 54th Massachusetts. 

[windstorm1000]

a shame this American music is not featured on symphony programs.

[jeweltoned]

@windstorm1000 It is!! San Francisco Symphony baby!

[windstorm1000]

@jeweltoned I should be there.

[Marmalade000000]

Charles Ives's music could be used for movie soundtracks!

[ducksgo]

Gotta know this for my test in my music appreciation class.

[MrMartin231]

@ducksgo straight up me too ....where do u go to school?

[yourforte]

Beautiful piece of music.

[SPLIMLETLET]

With Ives I always feel like I've found myself in a darkened room, moving about with my hands out stretched. Not sure what I might bum into. It's a good thing, not a bad thing.

[e1234563929]

well...

can you please tell me what version is?

conductor,orchestra and place...

[NewMusicXX]

@e1234563929 James Sinclair - Orchestra New England

[privatecustomer]

"For the realists, the truth is complex, and life is a complicated and ambiguous affair. The best way to express this theme was to create a work of interwoven, entangled physical density. This represented the complexity of life. At the same time the work should contain multiple points of view to express the simultaneous existence of the different levels of reality." R.S. Perry from Charles Ives and the American Mind. Kent State U. Press, 1974

[JasonRadley]

@privatecustomer So before the 'realists', nobody ever understood life's complexities? Talk about presumptuous. More likely they just got bored playing the old classical music.

[privatecustomer]

This recording has many very fine touches throughout. My hat's off to the conductor and members of the orchestra.

In the early 70's Eugene Ormandy made a recording of the entire piece that I regard very highly. Another conductor in high regard in conducting Ives' music is Leonard Bernstein. I've been listening to these recordings for nearly 40 years. Ives' is still way ahead of his time. Americans should be quite proud. Ives wrote music that represented the complexity of life's experience.

[malkieshort]

An optimistically-asked question; sorry if the answer is stated elsewhere (can't see where, if it is). Would I be correct in thinking this is the 1990 James Sinclair, Orchestra New England recording? If not, who is performing it and what's the recording date? Nice video accompaniment, incidentally, and thanks for the post.

[NewMusicXX]

@malkieshort Yes, it is the James Sinclair version. I bought the CD when it first appeared, and compared to earlier recordings, it struck me as more delicate and transparent.

[malkieshort]

Thanks for the speedy reply. Nice to know that my ears are still in reasonable shape!

[zik228]

most of ives pieces werent published until after his retirement

[freshhh1994]

lol @ 6:42

scary picture!!

[CurtisMateer]

Should this be categorised as rather "out there" 1916 American Impressionism, after the style of Jeux, or as a 1930s composition which seems pretty conservative as far as new music goes when compared to more radical stuff from the twenties?

[NGS712]

Curtis: I wouldn't think of it as a 30s composition since it's a re-orchestration. :)

[CurtisMateer]

Thanks for answering. If you are right I am disappointed in Ives creating something so tame in comparison to Pierrot Lunaire :-)

[NGS712]

Curtis: Well you have to remember it was for a smaller orchestra and presumably, concert-hall. ;)

And I think the second movt. is anything but 'tame'. :D

[saladshootavvv]

While part of me tends to agree with that statement, another part of me thinks that that's not a correct way in thinking. It's not like there is a contest to see who can write the most "out there" composition and it's also not like there is some linear progression involving dissonance in music where composers feel obligated to have to write a certain way to "out do" another composer. Ives wrote the music that was appropriate. Then again I could be wrong... maybe some tried to "out do" others

[CurtisMateer]

Nah, you're probably right. My disappointment is subjective. I just love his radical stuff so much more I guess.

[zik228]

its pretty out there but falls into the time period with the use of cluster chords

[CurtisMateer]

What time period? 1916ish or thirties? Sorry for having to ask the question again :-)

[zik228]

yea between those years is pretty much what the time period is its like the start of true american compositions

[zik228]

its the early american maybe the end of the romantic period

but i call it the early american period

[japanesesweet]

'should it be categorized?'- -well that's one for the music critics i guess.

Personally,i don't think there's anything conservative about Ives. In the best sense,it's a rather untidy/visonary musical aesthetic.