John Taylor Gatto: Schooling is not Education - Part 2

[kozychik]

What if, instead on having such specific, monotonous jobs, like janitor, we incorporate those duties into the jobs of the other workers. For instance, office workers and teachers could empty their own garbage and do some light cleaning. Janitorial jobs could be part time so that janitors could divert some of their time and energy to more challenging and satisfying pursuits.

The way it is now seems like we just sacrifice a certain segment of society to be the slaves and do our dirty work.

[messthetics]

Some of the most insightful, compassionate and interesting people i know were home schooled. They weren't isolated in any way either because they took part in many clubs and activities alongside their education. They never fell in to peer pressure and always made decisions for themselves. They were less anxious, more self assured and self reliant.

[MiroMiroSune]

After years of compulsory education I finally fell into line in year nine. My grades went up and my mental state grew worse. My junior year was the worst and best year of my high school career for one reason: I realized everything this man said. A movement began within me, after the first quarter I started to rebel against it all. My grades plummeted and I had the best year of my life. My eyes had opened. That was my worst year of high school, and yet I learned more than I ever had in 11 years.

[asubjectiveopinion]

So this guy is a conspiracy theorist who has plagarised Ivan Illych and John Holt in order to sell their ideas to the right?

Clever idea, I bet he's made a packet.

[yTubeBlowsBigBalls]

Look people, school is really important but it's not everything because without a community and wisdom of the ages children will be lost to irrelevance and the contemporary zeitgeist.

[Cacowninja]

@jmrogers1000 I totally agree with you, sometimes when people bash homeschooling and say you need to go to school to be social/or they boss people around not to homeschool their kids I feel like saying to them SHUT THE FUCK UP GET THE FUCK OUT OF THIS COUNTRY AND GET A LIFE!!!!!!!! But that would be immature and rude to say that. It just makes my blood boil though. Man some people are sheep (like my dad heh) and believe in compulsory education crap. And some people like to boss others around.

[silverferriel]

Great for all of you that you don't have to work and can homeschool your little darlings. For the rest of us in the real world, it's not that simple. My children take music, art, motion therapy (OT) languages, etc.. These teachers have specialized degrees in music, therapy, and art. Do YOU have the proper education to teach specialized subjects? The home schooled kids in our community are not allowed to play with our neighborhood kids. Great message to send kids that they are better, sad...

[MsTheresaKelly1]

@LadyBludegon I agree. My nieces and nephews have all been homeschooled and they are better people for it!

[Classpower007]

Adler Mortimer!!!!

GREAT BOOKS OF THE WESTERN WORLD

[jonesey5168]

1 school master didn't like the truth in this vid

[LadyBludgeon]

This is why I'm an advocate for home schooling. I want my kids to really learn that there is more to life than just working for some elitist & working themselves to death over temporary rewards. I want them to learn how to be truly independent and to really understand the world around them. To not judge others & to help humanity as best as they can. What schools have done is to destroy that unique human spirit of love & companionship, through telling kids to shut up and listen. Thanks & peace.

[sexyred4lance]

schools are a breeding ground for hate and confusion....i have tried to explain many of these things to my children.....now we have no choice....i get threatening letters saying if my children are not at school i will be in trouble and i could possibly be turned into the child protection services.....

[LadyBludgeon]

@sexyred4lance You could still home school your children. No where in the rules state that you HAVE to send them to a public building to have your kids educated. Now after getting your certificate and right to educate your children at home and you are still being threatened, you could take that school/people to the courts and sue them. Parents have a lot more power than what the system makes it out to be. Do a little research on home schooling. Peace and luck to you.

[RevolutionaryJam]

people interested in education should check out Alfie Kohn his info is gr8

[RevolutionaryJam]

this reminds me of the book Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance I highly recommend it

[MJimiD]

@RevolutionaryJam Also, read "Shop Class As Soul Craft."

[RevolutionaryJam]

@MJimiD cool is it fiction or non fiction?

[myeyeshurt5566]

Gosh, I'm 16 and I've never felt a message resonate in me more than I felt now. I need to get out of this regimented loony bin they call school, it's just a breeding ground for future labourers in the mass rat race for the capitalist pigs.

[kozychik]

@myeyeshurt5566 Hey, your channel says you're 24; but this comment says you're 16. 16 to 24 in one year? That's impressive. Was just wondering (based on the comment) how you (or the 16yr old who posted the comment) was doing now.

[Ckordobah]

Roger Waters had it right about schools and schooling !

[Ramohog]

1 John 2:27 But the anointing which you have received of him stays in you, and you need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teaches you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it has taught you, you shall abide in him.

[ANDROID697]

"Those that learn to think for themself's, need no teachers! - Mahatma Gandi.

[Ckordobah]

My Grandfather built 2 of his own Homes. They are still standing In San Diego CA. He was really Old school.. we should be listening to them and not their Baby's (hence the 60s)

[sawaugust]

unschooling is the cheapest and best form of education

[glowingdarkmatter25]

unschooling is the cheapest form of education...

[Ckordobah]

I am posting your comment on my facebook Page.. Peace :)

[74u73hjd]

Do schools kill creativity? If creativity was a person schools would be it's concentration camp! I think that young people are going through a creativity holocaust perpetrated by teachers especially ones who hate their jobs. Everyone who agrees this is a disgusting inconvenient truth give me a thumbs up. BTW I'm only twenty years old and I understand this.

[forgetfulmuse]

Hands up who still has school nightmares! I'm 37 and I still have them. Why would I send my kids to a place like that? Just looking at schools gives me the willies.

[74u73hjd]

My stupid middle school teachers told me I would thank them when I grew up I'm twenty years old and I hate thier guts!!! They were totalitarian bastards that just made my life hard and miserable!!

[forgetfulmuse]

When I was at school in England the teachers picked on me almost as much as the kids. One time when a good 50 kids were all laughing at me for some non-specific reason, teachers just stood around watching. I didn't go back to school until I was back in Canada about 6 months later and I can't even remember what I did in my time off. More and more I feel like I lived for all those years semi-institutionalized and can't help wondering what kind of life I would have now had that not been the case.

[forgetfulmuse]

What I do remember is the complete and utter relief of not being forced to go back. I was accused by one teacher of having "too many chips" on my shoulder, another grabbed me by my clothes in the hall and breathed his bad breath in my face telling me I was barging through the crowd (I was dodging it, not barging at all), another just took an instant dislike to me for no real reason and seemed to make it her mission to make me unhappy. When I put it down like that, it sounds almost Dickensian.

[74u73hjd]

Are schools in England as oppressive and as totalitarian as schools in America?

[cwesti]

oh yes.

[pt1gard]

how true, Muse, FUNNY THING, I was horrible student and now a writer/researcher .... recently I wrote, "Exiting a school, as opposed to entering, always had a sobering affect on me."

have a great day

[74u73hjd]

In school I always got drunk..... of boredom not alcohal.

[AnduinX]

My kids will not be brainwashed. I will never send them to be a public school.

Cheers!

[321lawc]

All you have to do is encourage self teaching

[TheGodson777]

@forgetfulmuse i agree with you, but what is the other alternative for your kids?

I mean , at the end of the day, we have to go to get our degrees. Otherwise, he/she won't be able to get a job that requires degree. Nowadays everything requires degree at least the best jobs...

once again, I embrace this idea but what are the altenatives? Home schooling are not bad either, but you isolate your kid and make him an unsocial person in a society! So, if you have any ideas, feel free to share :)

[TenderTrap86]

@TheGodson777 We HAVE to get degrees? HAVE to? Absolutely HAVE to? Why?

[wait887]

homeschool your children. It would be abuse to stick them in government prisons.

[Dulcenaya]

This is true.

[24Adrian24]

HOME SCHOOLING is key. You will not find a teacher in ANY school anywhere in the world who will have more love and take more time to educate your child better than you, as long as the parent believes that.

[templarscribe]

Thank you for posting this; this is so true. when I was in 2nd grade I loved to read and I could read books that were considered best for children older then me. One time I tried to get a book at the school library but they refused to let me check it out because the book was "too advanced" for me.

[LadyBludgeon]

@templarscribe I despise when anyone underestimate what a child could do. Each child is different and though collectively most do act & develop in the same rate, some can learn faster than others. Most children who get tagged with "too advanced for you"are those who are labeled for special ed. I get extremely angry when regular teachers push ESE students to the side. Little do they know they're causing that student to draw back to infancy. They unlearn everything. It's frightening. Peace to you.

[ppbbs88]

His ideas can help us form and refine models of what an ideal education system would like to look like, then to advocate those alternatives. Gatto's message is too important to be met with defeatism.

[spiro56]

This video series, and what it is saying, is very important.