Not all gay folks have been sexually violated or grew up without a parental unit of a certain sex.. these people are crazy. How many more people do we have to put on planet earth? Freaking crazy crazy whack jobs!
Well what do you say to all of the straight people who have "sexually violated" that are not gay? uhh... do you know how COMMON sexual violation is in the U.S.?
That's a damn lie, the majority of child molesters (including Priest, do your research) are heterosexual men and are married with children. Recommend you watch the movie "The Boys Of St. Vincent."
Sexually violated or sexually threatened? Odds are that she's met few women, just in general, that haven't been through that at some point. Come to think of it, she's probably met few men who haven't been through that at some point as well.
Thanks for this! They left a part of the equation out-the straight people who have been molested but aren't gay. Has it occured to them that the reason why there might be a high number of people in the LGBT community who have been molested isn't because molestation turns you gay, but molestation forces you to realize your sexuality at a harsher and younger age-whether that be for the better or worse?
Also, if you've had any trauma happen to you in your life, it kind of divides you from the crowd, and so you automatically feel more comfortable staying there or just being who you are-It's harder to break that mold if you've been "Perfect" your whole life.
In short, we need more "Perfect" & "Adjusted" people coming out, and more focus on the fucked up people who "stayed" straight! haha man I feel stupid talking about this in the first place....
@TheKamiSutra Omgosh that is freaking disgusting!!! Your comment is the single most creepy comment Ive ever read! I am literally nauseated by it. WTheck is wrong with you? To say that molestation forces you to..to...I cant even repeat it! YOU need help! Please get some before you hurt a child or something> Also never let me find out you or anyone else has molested a child because I havent found mercy in my heart yet for those types of people. NO MERCY! I will try to pray for you tonight.:-P
this argument is bogus. all gay ppl have been raped or molested? thats one of the dumbest things ive ever heard in my life. ppl r BORN gay, what happens out of the womb doesnt affect ur true sexuality. furthermore, i was molested and im straight. these gay "cure" camps r crap as well. ur can surpress the urge, but if its part of ur biology as it is in homosexuality, u cant get rid of it. in order 2 believe this u would also have 2 believe that pedos can b cured of their urges (fyi, they cant)
@xPikmin2x never heard the word "most". i got the strong impression that "all" is what was meant. i've also never seen any studies on this subject in a medical or psychological book, so i think its safe to assume that this is just some bogus myth some jackass made up.
your wrong, if you open your ears she says "shes" come across that....she didn't say it was universal like you try to protray. stop with the phoneiness.
Also, when people seek counseling at ex-gay groups, more often than not they seem to be running from guilt because they did suffer molestation and blame it on themselves. That's part of the reason they're looking for counseling in the first place. The healthy, happy GLBT people who haven't been molested would be content to engage in a theological debate rather than seek counseling. It's circular logic. Of course the groups have molestation victims. Those are the ones who seek counseling.
That's stupid. I'm gay and I'm 100% a virgin and have never been seduced or "violated". In contrast, I know a young man who was raped by a guy as a child and he's fallen madly in love with a woman and wants nothing more than to marry her. He's 100% heterosexual. Shouldn't he have been gay then?
ive never heard anything more rediculous, well thats not true ive heard a lot of crap but this is top 5. being gay is not a virus and anyone who believes that must needs to be mantally tested. and anyway what difference does it make to any persons life what sexuality another person has, its none of anyone busness but their own. so butt out of peoples lives!
@bobby472 yeah I wasn't either and I'm a woman. Neither have most of the women I've dated. Its just a bizarre supposition they can find a dysfunctional reason for everything. Didn't bond with your dad your mom too close to your dad too close to your mom, not enough love too much love blah blah blah.
@bobby472 yeah they'll do anything to prove it isn't even slightly genetic that it is just a case of same sex attraction disorder BS. which they love to call ssad as opposed to gay because they are so clever. anywho once they find the genetic component.. they'll just switch gears and try to find junk scientists who claim they can reverse the process in utero. CAnnot wait for that day... not.
@syzygywell lol im sure they will try to "reverse" it. I don tunderstand why they just cant live their own damb lives and let everyone else live there's. Is their life that boring? jeeesh
@xPikmin2x and how about a study on straight people who were molested as kids? have you even looked into that? probably not. Everyone I have ever spoken to who was gay, said they were never molested as a child. so your argument fails.
If what she says is true, then does that mean that all those little boys the priests had sex with are going to be gay? Wouldn't that make the Catholic church responsible for the "spread of the homosexual virus"?
A little piece of me hopes that this is PARTLY true, then people could say that Catholic priests are partially responsible for making people gay. Haha, Christians want to talk about the horrors of child abuse and they appoint most of the blame on gay marriage and how it threatens the traditional family and not on their catholic leaders, distant cousins of Christianity. There's something wrong with that.
I used to use that as a justification as well. I was a seminarian and at a inter-novitiate conference I heard them say homosexuality was a gift...I was appalled. I always blamed being molested as the cause for my secret feelings. It was agonizing. I needed something to blame for my feelings because I just couldn't accept this was who I was. But I was fixated on it. I almost committed suicide as a result. Once I accepted this as part of my life, I was free to do other things...school, career,life
OH i didnt know that i got touched why does this always happen to me first i wake up and choose to be a fag and now i was touched FUCK there goes my life
That lady sounds just like my uncle- a sorry ass ignorant bible humper. That is so fucking stupid. Like, I know LOADS of gay and bi people who werent molested. What a bunch of bullshit. That is the explanation given to me by many so-called "christians"-Oh people are gay because some homo touched them when they were kids-theyre not born that way" Such dumbasses. This world is chock-full of ignorant fucks.
That's weird, because I am gay and I have never been violated - ever. What the hell is she talking about? How can someone lie like that with a straight face?
Growing up in the church, I made this assumption that Christians were inherently evil. But now I realize they suffer a worse fate. They are blissfully ignorant and refuse to learn. And that is the worst kind of evil.
No, she is misrepresenting herself. It was said to enforce her platform. NO ONE says "I have never meet..." in a context of admitting possibility of otherwise without an explicit acknowledment of the possibility. It is said to convey an absolute. It meant that everone she meet, in the category, went through it even if it was never discussed or they tried to refute it and she thought they were lying or incapable of determining the truth of it for themselves.
Actually, you are misrepresenting what she said. All she said was, "I never met anyone..." which is not the same thing as saying "every gay person has been molested..."
That is horrible these people going out half cocked,I am gay and no one ever laid a hand on me.I am gay because I made a decision that I wouldn't bring or put a women threw the pain of knowing I was only attracted to men.
very hippie mentality.Do you thinks thats realistic.What about competition for social status,schools,business..and generally the right to do as ones pleases.Hey i'm by some peoples definition GAY..but get real..people's will's will always clash.We always fight for something...wars..rights...etc...What about old jim down the road who WAS born (using the same argument for homosexualiuty...hey why not???) a pedophile,who likes hairless privates,Do you love him?? for who he is. ?????
Would everyone please note before watching this video, that BoxTurtle has NOT said anything of the sort that he agrees with this. Just that he thought it was manipulative bullshit
I'm gay and never violated. So where is all the evidence? This is crap. How do you explain straights who were sexually abused who are not gay? No logic! Stop this idiocy!
I can't believe that you came to the conclusion that the woman's son was molested! Could it possibly be that the child was NOT molested and that what Melissa Fryrear's statements were nothing more than manipulative bullshit? That poor woman's son is now going to be harassed by his now brainwashed mother to confess to something that never took place! Wake up, stupid!
I'm not sure who you're referring to when you say, "I can't believe that you came to the conclusion..."
Did you watch the video? I came to no such conclusion. In fact, I concluded that there was probably no such molestation at all, and that yes, Fryear's statement was clearly manipulative and mean-spirited -- as well as harmful to the parents who attended that conference.
Please watch the full video before commenting, for crying out loud!
One in five Americans has been violated
1elgalle1 1 month ago
Not all gay folks have been sexually violated or grew up without a parental unit of a certain sex.. these people are crazy. How many more people do we have to put on planet earth? Freaking crazy crazy whack jobs!
psychonaut101 3 months ago
Im gay and have never been molested !
urminetonight 8 months ago
i come from a happy healthy family i was never molested my father never left me no i d on not have an over bearing mother
jackthayer 11 months ago
I like people of both sexes and guess what? i've never been sexually molested, ever. These people are such losers
SkyFoxCode 1 year ago 3
Well what do you say to all of the straight people who have "sexually violated" that are not gay? uhh... do you know how COMMON sexual violation is in the U.S.?
XforeverlongingX 1 year ago
Pedofile Priest were all once Gay Men. The problem with gays is some are born and most are made.
nero7926 1 year ago
@nero7926
"Pedofile Priest were all once Gay Men."
That's a damn lie, the majority of child molesters (including Priest, do your research) are heterosexual men and are married with children. Recommend you watch the movie "The Boys Of St. Vincent."
MrJuly1990ish 2 months ago
Sexually violated or sexually threatened? Odds are that she's met few women, just in general, that haven't been through that at some point. Come to think of it, she's probably met few men who haven't been through that at some point as well.
Axion444 1 year ago
Thanks for this! They left a part of the equation out-the straight people who have been molested but aren't gay. Has it occured to them that the reason why there might be a high number of people in the LGBT community who have been molested isn't because molestation turns you gay, but molestation forces you to realize your sexuality at a harsher and younger age-whether that be for the better or worse?
TheKamiSutra 2 years ago
Also, if you've had any trauma happen to you in your life, it kind of divides you from the crowd, and so you automatically feel more comfortable staying there or just being who you are-It's harder to break that mold if you've been "Perfect" your whole life.
In short, we need more "Perfect" & "Adjusted" people coming out, and more focus on the fucked up people who "stayed" straight! haha man I feel stupid talking about this in the first place....
TheKamiSutra 2 years ago
@TheKamiSutra Omgosh that is freaking disgusting!!! Your comment is the single most creepy comment Ive ever read! I am literally nauseated by it. WTheck is wrong with you? To say that molestation forces you to..to...I cant even repeat it! YOU need help! Please get some before you hurt a child or something> Also never let me find out you or anyone else has molested a child because I havent found mercy in my heart yet for those types of people. NO MERCY! I will try to pray for you tonight.:-P
xPikmin2x 1 year ago
this argument is bogus. all gay ppl have been raped or molested? thats one of the dumbest things ive ever heard in my life. ppl r BORN gay, what happens out of the womb doesnt affect ur true sexuality. furthermore, i was molested and im straight. these gay "cure" camps r crap as well. ur can surpress the urge, but if its part of ur biology as it is in homosexuality, u cant get rid of it. in order 2 believe this u would also have 2 believe that pedos can b cured of their urges (fyi, they cant)
louib716 2 years ago
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xPikmin2x 1 year ago
@xPikmin2x never heard the word "most". i got the strong impression that "all" is what was meant. i've also never seen any studies on this subject in a medical or psychological book, so i think its safe to assume that this is just some bogus myth some jackass made up.
louib716 1 year ago
yeah--um-- I'm a gay man--and I've never been sexually abused or 'seduced.' And I've grown up with a pretty darn good relationship with my dad.
seaprince777 2 years ago 2
your wrong, if you open your ears she says "shes" come across that....she didn't say it was universal like you try to protray. stop with the phoneiness.
shanana000 2 years ago
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Nataliestreetteam 2 years ago
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Nataliestreetteam 2 years ago
Gay and virgin =P I remember never liking boobs when I was little too
Yoshemo1 2 years ago
I am gay and have NEVER been molested, although sometimes I like to pretend that I have.
spectrumdweller 2 years ago
Of course.
Part and parcel.
AskWhyNow2day 2 years ago
Also, when people seek counseling at ex-gay groups, more often than not they seem to be running from guilt because they did suffer molestation and blame it on themselves. That's part of the reason they're looking for counseling in the first place. The healthy, happy GLBT people who haven't been molested would be content to engage in a theological debate rather than seek counseling. It's circular logic. Of course the groups have molestation victims. Those are the ones who seek counseling.
feelthepainness 2 years ago
That's stupid. I'm gay and I'm 100% a virgin and have never been seduced or "violated". In contrast, I know a young man who was raped by a guy as a child and he's fallen madly in love with a woman and wants nothing more than to marry her. He's 100% heterosexual. Shouldn't he have been gay then?
feelthepainness 2 years ago 2
Gay and never been molested.
BrainDeadDipshit 2 years ago 2
Same here!
JonnySerge 2 years ago
ive never heard anything more rediculous, well thats not true ive heard a lot of crap but this is top 5. being gay is not a virus and anyone who believes that must needs to be mantally tested. and anyway what difference does it make to any persons life what sexuality another person has, its none of anyone busness but their own. so butt out of peoples lives!
brotherhoodboi 2 years ago 2
im gay and i was NEVER molested.
bobby472 2 years ago 14
me too
sadguyfoundout1 2 years ago 2
@bobby472 yeah I wasn't either and I'm a woman. Neither have most of the women I've dated. Its just a bizarre supposition they can find a dysfunctional reason for everything. Didn't bond with your dad your mom too close to your dad too close to your mom, not enough love too much love blah blah blah.
syzygywell 1 year ago
@syzygywell lol ive heard those excuses before. My parents raised me just like they did my 3 siblings before.
bobby472 1 year ago
@bobby472 yeah they'll do anything to prove it isn't even slightly genetic that it is just a case of same sex attraction disorder BS. which they love to call ssad as opposed to gay because they are so clever. anywho once they find the genetic component.. they'll just switch gears and try to find junk scientists who claim they can reverse the process in utero. CAnnot wait for that day... not.
syzygywell 1 year ago
@syzygywell lol im sure they will try to "reverse" it. I don tunderstand why they just cant live their own damb lives and let everyone else live there's. Is their life that boring? jeeesh
bobby472 1 year ago
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xPikmin2x 1 year ago
@xPikmin2x and how about a study on straight people who were molested as kids? have you even looked into that? probably not. Everyone I have ever spoken to who was gay, said they were never molested as a child. so your argument fails.
bobby472 1 year ago
If what she says is true, then does that mean that all those little boys the priests had sex with are going to be gay? Wouldn't that make the Catholic church responsible for the "spread of the homosexual virus"?
Oh, the contradictory humanity...XD
choirfreak26 2 years ago 4
In their view, anyone who's been abused and is straight is straight because of the power of Jesus.
polemius01 2 years ago
HEY i m 26 year old and i am not molested LOLLLL!
mystemizer 3 years ago
five-star from a queer that never was molested
blackmetalqueer 3 years ago
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Sometimes you do not even remember because you block it out or are to young.
pricelesspam 2 years ago
oh shut up! Do not use unobserved data to prove your bigoted assertion.
blackmetalqueer 2 years ago
A little piece of me hopes that this is PARTLY true, then people could say that Catholic priests are partially responsible for making people gay. Haha, Christians want to talk about the horrors of child abuse and they appoint most of the blame on gay marriage and how it threatens the traditional family and not on their catholic leaders, distant cousins of Christianity. There's something wrong with that.
mirwriter 3 years ago
I used to use that as a justification as well. I was a seminarian and at a inter-novitiate conference I heard them say homosexuality was a gift...I was appalled. I always blamed being molested as the cause for my secret feelings. It was agonizing. I needed something to blame for my feelings because I just couldn't accept this was who I was. But I was fixated on it. I almost committed suicide as a result. Once I accepted this as part of my life, I was free to do other things...school, career,life
firstjohn47and8 3 years ago
I was too as a child a few times and I'm straight....I wish everyone would give it up...that has nothing to do with it.
2008ily 3 years ago
These people sicken me.
dralockhart 3 years ago
OH i didnt know that i got touched why does this always happen to me first i wake up and choose to be a fag and now i was touched FUCK there goes my life
love always,
Seth-the gay :)
seththegay 3 years ago
That lady sounds just like my uncle- a sorry ass ignorant bible humper. That is so fucking stupid. Like, I know LOADS of gay and bi people who werent molested. What a bunch of bullshit. That is the explanation given to me by many so-called "christians"-Oh people are gay because some homo touched them when they were kids-theyre not born that way" Such dumbasses. This world is chock-full of ignorant fucks.
98orpheus 3 years ago
That's weird, because I am gay and I have never been violated - ever. What the hell is she talking about? How can someone lie like that with a straight face?
mike2lane 3 years ago 3
this is stupid! people are born gay and it doesn't matter if you have been sexually violated or not, I am gay and I have never been sexually violated
kimluvsbritt4ever 3 years ago
Growing up in the church, I made this assumption that Christians were inherently evil. But now I realize they suffer a worse fate. They are blissfully ignorant and refuse to learn. And that is the worst kind of evil.
bhickman3 3 years ago 2
Yeah, ex-gay groups are mental terrorists...period.
Raastee 3 years ago 4
No, she is misrepresenting herself. It was said to enforce her platform. NO ONE says "I have never meet..." in a context of admitting possibility of otherwise without an explicit acknowledment of the possibility. It is said to convey an absolute. It meant that everone she meet, in the category, went through it even if it was never discussed or they tried to refute it and she thought they were lying or incapable of determining the truth of it for themselves.
zephyrgust 3 years ago
Actually, you are misrepresenting what she said. All she said was, "I never met anyone..." which is not the same thing as saying "every gay person has been molested..."
Rikfleming 3 years ago
That is horrible these people going out half cocked,I am gay and no one ever laid a hand on me.I am gay because I made a decision that I wouldn't bring or put a women threw the pain of knowing I was only attracted to men.
jbg42 3 years ago 3
GAY PEOPLE ROCK AND SO DOES EVERYONE ELSE THAT LOVES EVERYONE FOR WHO THEY ARE!!!
treat everyone like ur family
Ninjaofgood 3 years ago 11
That got a whale of an AMEN from me
gabsylv 3 years ago
@Ninjaofgood
very hippie mentality.Do you thinks thats realistic.What about competition for social status,schools,business..and generally the right to do as ones pleases.Hey i'm by some peoples definition GAY..but get real..people's will's will always clash.We always fight for something...wars..rights...etc...What about old jim down the road who WAS born (using the same argument for homosexualiuty...hey why not???) a pedophile,who likes hairless privates,Do you love him?? for who he is. ?????
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stevenyz490 3 years ago
Would everyone please note before watching this video, that BoxTurtle has NOT said anything of the sort that he agrees with this. Just that he thought it was manipulative bullshit
Shadowfrost68 4 years ago
I'm gay and never violated. So where is all the evidence? This is crap. How do you explain straights who were sexually abused who are not gay? No logic! Stop this idiocy!
gabsylv 4 years ago 3
As am I.
I've never been sexually violated and I'm bi.
this is bullshit
Kakashigirl250 3 years ago 2
I'm sorry Jim. My apologies! I misunderstood what you said and after listening again I got your point. Mea culpa.
soulbrotha 4 years ago
No probs! ;-)
BoxTurtleBulletin 4 years ago
I can't believe that you came to the conclusion that the woman's son was molested! Could it possibly be that the child was NOT molested and that what Melissa Fryrear's statements were nothing more than manipulative bullshit? That poor woman's son is now going to be harassed by his now brainwashed mother to confess to something that never took place! Wake up, stupid!
soulbrotha 4 years ago
I'm not sure who you're referring to when you say, "I can't believe that you came to the conclusion..."
Did you watch the video? I came to no such conclusion. In fact, I concluded that there was probably no such molestation at all, and that yes, Fryear's statement was clearly manipulative and mean-spirited -- as well as harmful to the parents who attended that conference.
Please watch the full video before commenting, for crying out loud!
BoxTurtleBulletin 4 years ago
I'm bi, and i've never been sexually assulted. You are very judgemental and dont know anything about gay people.
Syler783 4 years ago 4
Im gay and I never been violated, I have a Great family.....This is bullshit.
Cateraguy 4 years ago 3