Full Twist Beam Gymnastics Montage

[titangymnast27]

you need to add jordyn wieber and katelyn ohashi to this :)

[Jammerjoint]

Ummm 2:36 was cork on beam? Also 2:39, another cork.  Props.

[Jammerjoint]

@Jammerjoint

I meant 2:26 and 2:39.

[33badyess]

shawn johnson is working on upgrading to bhs bhs full on beam...would be badass!! Hope she makes it to London 2012!! She is competing for a spot on worlds team as I type this. Come on Shawn!!!!!!

[33badyess]

shawn johnson is working on upgrading to bhs bhs full on beam...would be badass!! Hope she makes it to London 2012!! She is competing for a spot on worlds team as I type this. Come on Shawn!!!!!!

[33badyess]

shawn johnson is working on upgrading to bhs bhs full on beam...would be badass!! Hope she makes it to London 2012!! She is competing for a spot on worlds team as I type this. Come on Shawn!!!!!!

[foresure88]

Amy Chow was very consistent with this skill =)

[Gymnast4life127]

Who's the girl at 1:30?

[kakumei77]

@Gymnast4life127 Its Kui Yuanyuan. The best beam working in my opinion. That is from her Worlds. Her 1996 Olympic Beam Routine is just as good! And that is not just a full, but a full lay out!

[fashionoverflow]

2:37 IMPOSSIBLE COMBINATION !

[gymnasticsloverxoxo]

full twisting back tucks are my favorite element on the beam =)

[nikkiyoyoyomm]

0:21 = amazing Shawn moment

[MANMARTRE]

forgot Kelly Garrison Steeves round off full twisting back onto the beam...it was a show stopper in '87-88

[theedaniielle]

is the gymnast at 0:20 shawn johnson?

[bernardmvella]

Kui Yuanyuan is absolutely graceful, 1:30

[MargaretLeighh]

@bernardmvella I love how easy she makes it look. Everyone else seems to struggle with it and she's just like meh this is easy.

[preppylittlelady]

@hippiegirl811 at 1:58 i think it's vanessa ferrari! haha she was in this video almost 5 times and she didnt land it once XD

[preppylittlelady]

@9613Gymnast9613 i think It's anna pavlova!!! not sure tho!

[kfaenza]

:21 is shawn johnson

[iowas22]

Carly Patterson at the 2001 Goodwill Games

[taylorswiftfan39]

i think 0:22 is the best

[JayCraze8]

this is stupid

[LetsFlyOnceMore]

@JayCraze8 how is it stupid exactly?

[cleicsioluek]

@hippiegirl811 0:23 was Shawn

[stackingcallalista]

why are they tucking???

[cleicsioluek]

@stackingcallalista A full twist can be done in 3 different positions: tuck, pike or laid-out. They are tucking because its the easiest of the 3. then its piking, then its laid-out.

[LetsFlyOnceMore]

@stackingcallalista they dont need to.....

[showjumperluvr4]

i love this!! :D

[girlmagnet123123]

that is me lol for real no joke!!!

[hayhaypetey]

the one at 1:32 was amazing!

[MrJST94]

who was the first one ever to do this move

?

[mrsTorrard88]

@MrJST94 shishova, the first girl in the video

[geoffg10]

thats got to be soo hard and scary! i would prob shit myself...

[fliptopla]

what song is this?

[LKR0722]

Do you know when Khorkina competed that gainer full-twist? I never knew she tried that. Great montage!

[edelamm]

I think samantha pezsek (or whatever it's spelled out) is a very underestimated gymnast...she can do a full twist on the beam connected to a pike back summersault AND a much better double-double on floor than Shawn Johnson...I guess Marta never liked her that much...

[irisje205]

who is the Gymnast at 2:39? She is very strong....:O

[killedbyAP]

@irisje205

That's the amazing Samantha Peszek

[DarrienSilva]

1:31 is the best.

[Floatie114]

At 2:21, I think the camera flash did her in.

[edelamm]

@Floatie114 maybe...I once saw a video of a vault final in where somebody yells at the first flight of the jump and the gymnast got it completely off...I always thought it was that person's fault (of course they need to work in their concentration but, who does that???)

[Hopper4546]

1:05 was amazing!!!!!! OMFG

[gullybear20]

Really liked that there were the hits and misses in this video. And just as a side note I have spent the last hour at work (when I should naturally be working) watching your montage videos. They are awesome =) Thanks for the distraction!

[DJT113]

Wow a gainer full twist straight from Khorkina

[thenamebemadirae]

wow. i can't even do one on the ground

amazing.

[9613Gymnast9613]

who is the gymnast at 1:13

[MostepanovaFan]

It was Elena Piskun at the 1995 Worlds

[JonasGymnast4Life]

the girl at 1:55 looks realllllyyyy young!

[gymnasticsloverxoxo]

She was the first person to ever do a full twisting back tuck on the beam.

[gatonegroize]

i love this sport

[MostepanovaFan]

No - the first gymnast at 1:58 was Aleftina Priakhina (the one who did it from stand) in 1986, the second was Vanessa ferrari in 2007

[camjay8]

@MostepanovaFan Wait what? I thought the second one to do a standing full was Tatiana Gutsu.

[MySportsFanatic]

Wait, does the full twist from 1:08 to 1:10 count as laid out? I'm pretty sure it's not tucked.

[gusgrissomismyhero]

i love gymnastics too!

[Hasoginy]

can someone please name all the gymnasts successfully performing the G-skill laid out full twist? I could only recognize Kui Yuanyuan...

Thanks a lot!!!

[SvetlanaBaitovaFan]

Khorkina landed hers (ItsNastiaFan101 has the video). Olessia Dudnik goes for it laidout but ends up bending her knees. He Xuemei did one at the 1993 worlds during qualifications(?). Dong Fangxiao did one at 1999 worlds in the Event Finals(?) and the 2001 East Asain Games. Oana Ban did one quite a few times. Those are ones i have seen footage of, though i have heard rumors of Laschenova and Mo Huilan doing one, which doesn't suprise me considering how much height they get on their layouts.

[Hasoginy]

Thank you very much! :D

[SvetlanaBaitovaFan]

No Problem.

[kuoemi]

beam still scares me but i do it, ok ish. and i've been doing gymnastics for six years!!

[CMIKE9783]

never knew khorkina did a full twist

[ConMurse]

me niether iw as really shocked. LOL I thought i've seen ever routine from her ever!

[FLACSC74]

who is that at :33 ?

[Richifaye]

I could see Only Kui Yuan Yuan (at 1:30) did sucessful straight back layout with full twist, others all just did nomal back somersault with full twist.

Seems like no one even could achieve Kui Yuanyuan's record, she brilliant !

[chrislindsey13]

Hello! Oana Ban's is a lot better 1:52

[ninjachild5]

I agree 100%.

But still, tuck fulls on beam standing or not are very hard too. Thats why Kui Yuan Yuan is so amazing.

[anzioa]

Shawn Johnson at :22 is the only one who did a full twisting back from a stand still. That is much harder. And she never even checks her balance.

[alexzjay]

She checked her balance ONCE... when it most mattered I must add, in the Beijing 2008 All-Around.

[xplosive08]

great montage...but too much ferrari in this vid

[turnermanxi]

I would to see a double full twist on balance beem

[fang3232]

that's in my beam routine at 1:30 and ending at 1:33

[xplosive08]

well...than u r amaizing gymnast

[Richifaye]

WHOOP WHOOP, Then, you are KUI Yuan Yuan!! I see

[katrinaburch]

Who's the little girl at 1:56?

[MostepanovaFan]

It is Aleftina Priakhina at the 1986 Chunichi Cup (she was still a junior)

[katrinaburch]

No wonder I'd never seen her! I was only a year old LOL

[bbhouk1]

@MostepanovaFan

no shishova!!!!??? she was the first to perform it in an international comp right, she just didn't submit it

[evoandy]

@bbhouk1

shishova was the first person on the video.

[bbhouk1]

@evoandy

sorry didn't recognize her

[snchamp365]

what is the value of a standing full on the beam??

[TsubasaDreams]

A standing full if tucked is still an F and if laid out is a G. So there isn't really an incentive to do it from a stand, especially now since if you do a back handspring into a full you get .2 in CV

[FLACSC74]

wo is at 1:20 ?

[MostepanovaFan]

It Lisa Mason of great britain at the 2000 Europeans

[ant630]

great video, put i must say you forgot one great full twist on the beam and that was years and years ago when carly patterson was young and used to do BHS full in laid out position

[bluberymufin82]

it was sad when shawn johnson fell on her full twist... sam peszek's was great

[hinginator]

Wow, Olesia Dudnik was way before her time. Her beam routines were insane!!

[felipex108]

The one at 0:51 to 0:53 was nice and high.

[pottercito7]

Yep!

That was actually Oana Ban, if I am not mistaken.

[vvroxxoxo]

who is at 1:48 ? hers is perfect! the first time i saw it, i almost thought it was just a layout!

[MostepanovaFan]

It was Dong Fangxiao at the 1999 Worlds beam final

[briaberger]

Can someone explain to me the difference between an arabian, a 'full,' and a full twist? Or are they all the same/interrelated? (Obviously I don't know much about this, so feel free to talk to me like I'm a moron :))

[drewpate]

a full and a full twist are the same. the same goes as you can say a double or a double full or a double full twist. they all mean the same, except sometimes people think of double backs when you say doubles, so on the internet especially i like to say double full.

an arabian is a half turn into a front flip. search for double arabians and you'll get a real good idea of what they are. Sometimes single arabian look more like a half twist backflip.

[briaberger]

Thank you!

[TuesdayPillow]

Who are 2:21 and 2:44?

Some of these tucked fulls look plain awful. Johnson's in particular looks poorly chucked. It should garner quite a big of deductions (lack of amplitude, landing with chest on knees, sometimes she lacks a full rotation in her twist).

[MostepanovaFan]

2:21 is Ekaterina Szabo at the 1983 Europeans, 2:44 is Camelia Voinea in 1985 (Can't remember which competition though)

[sochisochi]

khorki the queen

[tzhang2]

haha, agree, even her wobble looks great!

[aarontheboy2]

these people are fukin amazin

[wht1t3cr4y0n]

How big of a deduction do you get for using your hand to touch the beam to help you balance? (I think Khorkina this in this video.)

[MostepanovaFan]

In the 2009 code its a 0.5 deduction

[123kasean123]

well it looks like this trick is veryy hardd

why do some people do it in layout form and others do it like there doing a back flip

[lepetitpoulet]

you mean why people do it laid out and others in a tuck? because it's worth 0.1 more laid out. I have to say, Nistor is one of the gymnasts who did the full-twisting salto the most consistently. She often nailed it cold, and rarely fell on it at all.

Thanks for showing Khorkina's gainer full twist. However she never controlled that skill, hence we never saw her do it in big meets.

Hope we are going to see more of backhandspring + full twist salto on BB, since this combo is now rewarded +0.2

[mrparke007]

I LOVE how many times you show Ferrari falling on this skill... but it was a shame to see Piskun biting it so many times, too. :( Sad face.

[glibster]

I never understood why Ferrari kept this skill in her routine. (Well, I do, but you know what I mean.) It seems like she fell on it far more than she landed it. I mean, if you're going to do something on a four-inch piece of wood, then make sure you can do it consistently!

[mrparke007]

I agree. It's like Khorkina and the swing 1/1. She did that skill in, oh, three or four competitions then ditched it because she was wildly inconsistent on it. One of my favorite OSU gymnasts, Jami Lanz, has the same issue in her BB set. She's been doing a split leap full for three years, but only gets to 3/4 the majority of the time IF she doesn't fall. It's like "TAKE THAT SHIT OUT OF YOUR ROUTINE!!! IT'S KILLIN ME!!!"

[glibster]

Argh, I know! There are so many other difficult skills that a gymnast can perform on the balance beam - why not perform one that you can actually complete? (I should mention that although I watch college gymnastics, I don't recall Jami Lanz; I'll have to see if I can find her on YouTube.) This is why I love Khorki - she was smart enough to realize--and eliminate--her weak/inconsistent skills as well as capitalize on her strong ones.

[mrparke007]

Jami is a ROCK on BB (had the potential to score a 10.0 several times) but that leap... grrr.

I think the difference between Ferrari and Khorkina (as we're discussing) is a combination of coaching (better for Khorkina) and the Code of Points. Ferrari couldn't afford to ditch the back 1/1 because of how valuable it was in that Code. It was more important that she chuck the skill to her feet, fall, then get the A-score benefit. Several AA gymnasts were doing this on VT last quad.

[glibster]

That makes sense. New code = definitely an improvement over the old one.

"Several AA gymnasts were doing this on VT last quad." Are you talking about the Amanar? It still seems like the Code rewards a gymnast for this vault no matter how poorly she does it. Feel free to give examples - I like hearing what you have to say. ;-)

[MaebySurelyBarely]

The same with her Comaneci on bars. It seems as if she falls almost every time!

[maxy7792]

shawn jhonson rocks my sockss!!

[fcafreak]

Go Shawn Johnson woooooo

[FlippinTitan10]

Didn't Carly used to do one?

[mrparke007]

Yes... but it was usually pretty terrible, and I think she only did it as a junior.

[CelloRosin]

yeah - her arabian was much better.

[caramelcreamsauce]

Oana Ban has the highest full twist I have ever seen!

[mrparke007]

The best thing about Ban's full, to me, is that she does it like a half-in, half-out. Her twisting is broken up, which just shows how much time she had to execute the skill. I loved her amplitude on this apparatus.

[havarahel]

i love this skill too. Shawn and Sam do it great!

[ClayBabe31]

wow I never knew khorki did a full!!!  sweet!

great montage!

[backflipboy27]

khorkina did gainer layout fulls in 1995 and 2002

[ClayBabe31]

cool thanks!!!

[Spooker112]

oana ban from romania did them too.

[mrparke007]

When did Ban do a swing-through full? Do you remember the competition? I've never seen that.

[Spooker112]

I was just talking about a layout full. I dont know what this swing through stuff is.

[mrparke007]

It's a swing-through full, not a gainer. She'd be moving forward while flipping backward if it was a gainer salto, and a gainer full would be a freaking G+++ if it were even IN the COP. A stretched back 1/1 is a G, tucked is an F (2009 COP).

[backflipboy27]

Theres different terminology for everything. To me a gainer is a back flip from one leg, not necessarily traveling forward. What you call a gainer, I call a reverse.

[backflipboy27]

thats not at all true, theres several names for almost every skill, it all depends on where you are from....

[backflipboy27]

To countless gymfans, coaches, and gymnasts... a gainer is a back flip or back handspring taking off one leg. You may not have grown up using this terminology, but what can I say, I did and I'm not alone. I don't give a shit what the code says about it.

[mrparke007]

The current COP doesn't differentiate between gainers and swing skills, so I deleted my previous post. Sorry for offending you.

[dashagl]

I have not read something this pompous AND incorrect in quite a long time.

Love, double layout and double straight, whip back and tempo salto...could go on for days!

kthanksbye!

[dashagl]

I'll try my best :-). You sure do wave that Gymnastics judging gavel around quite a bit for somebody who doesn't recognize the all too obvious variations in skill names based on the location. Quite peculiar.

[mrparke007]

I removed my last post because this is just silly. I was also being dramatic, so I'll just stop.

Trust me, I understand there are differences in terminology geographically, but sometimes the use of improper terminology (specifically misnomers) makes the sport harder to interpret.

Gainers and swing skills have become blurred in the current COP anyway, so I have no argument.