I'm thinking that Liz Cheney's law degree was purchased in full with wads of Halliburton cash.
A layman perhaps could be forgiven for condemning attorneys for representing terror suspects in criminal trials. Liz Cheney has no fucking excuse.
She should have learned in Law 101 that an attorney is bound by the Bar and all standards of professional ethics to act as an unswayable advocate for his client and defend all of the client's rights, no matter how terrible a person that client may be.
This rotten apple sure didn't fall far from daddy Dick's tree. By her logic, any lawyer who defends an accused murderer is pro-murder, any lawyer who defends an accused rapist is pro-rape, and so on ad idiotum.
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Holder the Embolder. Emboldening our enemies, defending terrorists, denying 9/11 was done by Islamic terrorists, and getting ready to put America on trial for "torturing" peaceful muslims.
Those who push this shameful un-American ad are the worst of the worst. They know full well that America has a tradition of respect for the right to legal representation but shamelessly try to manipulate the minds of Americans to play to their vile tune. As a lawyer who loves his country and whose parents endured and survived the hell that was Nazism and Stalinism during WWII, this lowest of low ad turns my stomach. Americans - be vigilant against this shameless, irresponsible propaganda!
Absolute propaganda!! Cheneys daughter is just continuing the cause of American neo-conservatism. Pushing for the U.S. to be agressive towards the rest of the world. Of course humans should be considered innocent until proven guilty!! I guarantee most of those locked up at Guantanamo were innocent. One of them was from my home town - David Hicks. Locked up in solitary confinement for 5 years without a trial. Of course they're going to plead guilty!! anything that will mean they can go home.
I am terribly sorry for disliking this video, as I actually thought it was really neat. However, I liked some videos from another user who is now removing his videos from Youtube, and currently YouTube does not have a way to get rid of the dead links from the liked list, so I am getting rid of most everything.
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yes what must happen wil happen i agree, but i dont think you understand. the walls of hell arent reinforced strong enough for me and i proved it already.
This is silly. Patriotic AMERICAN values require lawyers for the accused. Trashing those values is NOT "Keeping America Safe." Why do Cheney and Kristol hate American traditions so much?
@MickeyYahoo These men were not accused of crimes. They were being held as enemy combatants under the laws of war. Never in our history have we afforded captured combatants access to our civilian courts. Do you believe the hundreds of thousands of captured prisoners we held in previous wars (Germans in WWII? Confederates in the Civil War?) were also entitled to lawyers and access to civilian courts?
Some of you should read the words of the left-wing wacko Ronald Reagan, who argued FOR civilian trials for terrorism suspects, saying that it was the best way to defeat them, with the thing that separates us from them: The rule of law.
The vast majority of the attorneys in question did not volunteer to serve as counsel in trials. The detainees were not charged with criminal offenses. They were being held as enemy combatants under the laws of war. As such they were never entitled to either a trial or counsel.
@guyanakoolaid Such a great point, as it seems that way too many of the people who worship Reagan fail to understand much about him, including the wisdom of that stance on terrorism suspects.
Why does their identify matter? Does Liz support McCarthy style hearings personally attacking these attorneys for practicing their constitutional duty? that's like demonizing a doctor who treats or saves the life of a person society deems "bad" for whatever social or political reason... what kind of world are we living in.... so sad
@nikki2579 Their identity matters a great deal. There are conflict of interest concerns if these attorneys are now playing a role in the formulation of detainee policy.
These attorneys were under no constitutional obligation (or legal or ethical one) to voluntarily represent these men.
@nnjhansen your right the attorneys weren't under a constitutional obligation to defend detainees, however, the liberties afforded under the constitution, apply to citizen detainees and non-citizen detainees alike. Because the const requires that when the government takes a person's freedom, that person has a right to (1) counsel (2) and rebut the evidence against them. If the gov doesn't do this the person has a right to file a writ of habeas corpus requiring the gov to do so.
@nikki2579 so they need an attorney to file that writ. PERIOD. so the attorney is carrying out the constitutional duties and procedural requirements of the judicial system. which apply to enemies and citizens a like.
@nikki2579 For 220 years the United States detained tens of thousands of enemy combatants during war without a single one of those detained being afforded the ability to challenge their detention in US civilian courts this includes thousands of combatants were detained on US soil during WWII.
FWIW, no one has the right to counsel when filing a habeas petition.
@nnjhansen my point is, if a detainee is able to file a writ he has the right to counsel, and the US has classified the enemy combatant as UNLAWFUL detainees, therefore the rules of war don't apply to them (like in WWII or the Civil War), HOWEVER the Supreme Ct ruled in the Boubin case that enemy combatants can file a petition for writ of habeas corpus, so the const. RIGHTS DO EXTEND TO THEM. the right to counsel and the right to find out what evidence the gov has against them.
@nikki2579 My point is you are incorrect as a matter of law. No one has the right to counsel to file a habeas petition. The right to counsel applies to criminal proceedings and does not extend to the filing of habeas petitions.
The Supreme Court overturned centuries of practice and its own precedent to divine such a right out of thin air. Despite the blatant overstepping of their constitutional authority, it did not extend so far as requiring that detainees have counsel.
@nikki2579 Also, the laws of war apply to unlawful combatants just as they do to lawful combatants with regard to a nation's ability to detain them for the duration of hostilities. An unlawful combatant, by his own actions, has placed himself outside the protections afforded to a lawful combatant by the Geneva Conventions.
What you (and the attorneys in question) have done is to afford those who disregard the standards of lawful combat a greater level of due process than those who abide by them
@ nnjhansen so you don't believe in innocent till proven guilty. If we deny them a lawyer, then who's to say an abusive government won't arrest someone for fake charges and deny them counsel? Or do you really have such blind trust in your government?
You're far more like Mao or Stalin than Washington, Adams, and Jefferson. You should have been born in a dictatorship.
@Trollmaster21 This is not a question of guilt or innocence. It is a question of whether or not a person is an enemy combatant. These men are being held as combatants during a war. Washington, Adams, and Jefferson all acknowleged a nation's ability to hold combatants in a time of war.
They represented those who have been accused, but not given a trial to determine if they were indeed guilty.
An accusation does not mean one is actually guilty. I could accuse you of raping and murdering a 12 year old girl, but the existence of an accusation does not mean you actually DID rape and murder a 12 year old girl.
@halleyscomet The men they chose to represent had NOT be3en accused of any crime. They were not being held as a criminal but as a combatant, just like those that have been held by every nation at war.
This nation has held tens of thousands of enemy combatants in our history and none of them had ever been entitled to civilian counsel to challenge their detention in our civilian courts before now.
This is not a criminal justice issue but a national security one.
@nnjhansen The Founders of the country were explicit about this kind of conflict betwen individual rights and the need for security. "The man who would choose security over freedom deserves neither." Thomas Jefferson (1743 - 1826)
@nnjhansen you must not believe in or read the constitution of the united states. due process is a right that you can't pretend doesn't exist whenever you want....
@nikki2579 The US Constitution is a contract between the people of the US and its government. It does not and was never intended to apply to foreign nationals engaged in armed conflict with the United States.
Do you believe every German soldier captured in WWII was entitled to a civilian attorney to contest his detention in a US court?
How about Confederate soldiers captured during the Civil War?
@nnjhansen German's captured during WWII were considered prisoners of war detained under the laws of war, which require their release at the end of the war, the same for the rebel confederate soldiers. The difference here, is there's no end to this "war" when will it stop? it doesn't fit within the traditional notions of war.
@nikki2579 The detainees held in this current war are also held as enemy combatants under the laws of war. No war comes with an expiration date. We are entitled to hold them until hostilities cease or the military determines they no longer pose a threat.
Since when does this matter? Are you dumb enough to think Eric Holder wants to see these guys walk or something? speaking of qualifications how does being the daughter of a Dick Cheney who should be in prison for presenting false intel to start a war and committing treason by outing a CIA agent for political gain make her an expert on anything? lets see her resume first then lets decide if she is qualified to make these statements I dont think she is.
Why don't you do a little research before you make comments that make you look ignorant?
Liz Cheney is an accomplished attorney and former State Dept official. She is well qualified to comment on these issues.
Read the Senate Intelligence Committee Report on pre-war intelligence. The statements made by the President and VP were found to be "substantiated by the available intelligence." No one lied.
The CIA employee you refer to was "outed" by a State Dept official, not the VP.
@ nnjhansen you can justify the mistake of the Iraq war, but what you're really saying is "I was right to be wrong because others were wrong too."
If you truly believed what you say then you would have no problem with Bush, Cheney, etc. testify under oath do you? Because if you're wrong and they did lie America into a needless war, you must admit that would be treason.
Your answer will prove if you're an honest broker or a GOP hack. I look forward to your response. (or probably lack of one)
@Trollmaster21 I reject your premise that he war in nIraq was a mistake.
The statements of Bush, Cheney, Powell, Rumsfeld, and Rice were all evaluated by the Senate Intelligence Committee and found to have been substantiated by the available intelligence. They did not lie and I see no legitimate venue in which they would testify.
Which enemy do you believe they were providing aid and comfort to?
@ nnjhanses you can side against the majority of the America people on this issue if you like.
If you're unaware that lying Americans into a war and causing the needless deaths of US soldiers is treason then you prove you're not a patriot.
Let me ask you another question to see you dodge the answer:
If it was proven beyond a shadow of a doubt to everyone that they did deliberately mislead the US into Iraq, would you admit that there were traitors in the Bush admin?
Well, it's hardly a 'new' low. We had McCarthy and the KKK and Tim McVeigh. But it sure is down there in the bottom of the pit. Why didn't they show the American Flag burning? Normally, with the spooky music they show liberals burning flags. The GOP has to cater to a disparate base: Insurance CEOs say frog, the GOP hops. And there's the bottom 5% of the 4th grade dropouts. Insurance execs are taken care of in boardrooms and country clubs, for the dropouts, there's this pablum.
John Adams defended captured British soliders in thier trials, so that means by your logic, Mrs. Cheney, John Adams is a traitor to your nation by defending enemies of it.
They are lawyers, they defend those accused of a crime, dosen't matter the crime. Terrorism, fraud, murder....child murder. Those who defend these criminals aren't rapists or murderers themselves they are just doing thier jobs.
First of all the individuals these lawyers chose to represent were not accused of a crime. They were being detained as enemy combatants and not entitled to counsel.
These lawyers were aiding enemy combatants in a time of war.
War? Every invading aggressor involved is guilty of war crimes according to the Nuremberg laws used to try Nazis. It's an illegal police action and the US government is now a fascist state by the strictest definition. The military is a tool for private interests justifying illegal acts of aggression and conquest all based on admitted lies.
And you are a little dolly parroting propaganda. A stooge.
Maybe you missed it but on Sept. 11, 2001 a group of Islamic terrorists called al Qaeda committed the largest in a series of acts of war against the US. This attack killed almost 3,000 civilians. Yes, this is war. You need to wake up and face this reality.
You know what? Just because you saw it on TV and you mindlessly accept the unlikely scenario laid out for you by a dictator, it doesn't mean the myth has any correlate in reality.
The 9/11 victims are just fictitious identities supported by actors. They're VICSIMS.
That doesn't change this country is a country based on laws, and a constitution. But clearly you don't agree with its laws or constitution since clearly agree both should be violated with dealing with these people.
What law or constitutional provision are you referring to?
How many enemy combatants has this nation held since its founding? Until 2002, how many of these detainees successfully challenged their detention in federal court? How many of them were afforded civilian legal counsel to challenge their detention?
A "war" with no foreseeable end. Other have been released who have been threats, under Bush Cheney. If they are guilty, try them and get it over with. But stop the excuses, which is what you are doing with the above. You've fallen for the lies Liz and many of the others have used. The names are available for anyone to look up. And she is trying to portray the lawyers as evil themselves.
The Bush administration was wrong to release many of those detained. Many of those released have returned to the fight and killed Americans or allies. Are you saying that Obama should make the same mistake?
This is not a question of guilt. These men are not criminal defendants but enemy combatants held under the traditional laws of war.
The liberal complaining here are such hypocrites. If John Ashcroft would have packed the Justice Dept. with lawyers who spent their careers doing pro bono work defending the KKK and then refused to name them, the left would have screamed bloody murder. Liberals here know I am correct. You are all a bunch of punk ass hypocrites.
I agree. I have noticed that the liberal left only believe in free speech and expression when it comes from them. Sounds kinda Islamic to me only when you disagree with them you are marked for death.
If you consider the ACLU a liberal front, as John Ashcroft does, than you might be surprised to learn that the ACLU has represented the KKK in the past. But I'm sure what will really make you mad is that Ashcroft has publicly supported the use of civilian trials in prosecuting terrorists, stating plainly that they have "use and utility."
As reprehensible as the KKK is, if they have a legal concern regarding the constitution, then they have every right to representation. Your argument only expands the ridiculous attempt to paint those who are doing their legal duty as just as bad or criminal also.
It makes perfect sense. They can't destroy the country if they aren't in the executive branch, so they're trying to influence the American people to take down the current one. "Hey, we totally fucked your country up. I realize the other guys are in charge now keeping us from profiting off your losses, so overthrow that shit and put us back in charge. Thaaaaaaanks."
Bill Kristol is a true terror warrior. Thanks to patriots like him the iraqis and afghanistanis are free from the grips of their terrorist dictators. We didn't find the weapons of mass destruction becasue osama gave them to Iran (our next stop on the terror ass kicking tour) and to al ciada sleeper cells around America who are waiting for a ron paul presidency to strike. It costed more to deliver freedom then Bill thought, but without his great ideas millions of more people might have died.
Seig Heil Dick Chaney and your little bitch of a daughter. Dr. Goebbels could not have done a better job. Only foxnews flunkies will believe this crap.
Eric Holder, first he ws going to prosecute the CIA, now not. Then he was going to try KM in NYC, now not. Keep up the good work Liz, call this traitor out whenever he pulls one of his Anti-American moves.
"The career of McCarthy and the specter of McCarthyism ended only when a handful of Republicans including Prescott Bush, the grandfather of George W. Bush -- joined in a Senate resolution of censure against him and his tactics. Perhaps we have witnessed such a moment of truth this week, when 19 prominent Republican attorneys, including Kenneth Starr and several former Bush Justice and Defense Department appointees, denounced the Keep America Safe smears as shameful, unjust and destructive.""
So wait Liz, during Bush and your father's term, AG Ashcroft speaking on their behalf, this transparency aided enemies of the United States... But now not having transparency is aiding them. Hmm, interesting.
And also interesting that a simple internet search will pull up any of the names you want... so as on John Stewart "Ah ha! The names are out there, just not in list form." Huh Liz? So what is the objection you have again?
Keep America Safe does noting their name states. Its a hate group devised to divide American, and cause hatred, built on a completely dishonest portray of Bush/Cheney, and a complete hatred of the Democracy this country was founded on. Cheney was the one pushing for more presidential power, to centralize power and to marginalize the Judicial and Representative Branches. Anyone that doesn't agree with them are Traitors. Despotic governments like Iran which is an Ultra-Right Government also.
I would be interested is knowing what part of the country you live in... I would guess northeast Iran not ultra-right unless you call the Sharia law right. Do some research on what the Iranian govt really is before calling someone who wants to keep America safe despotic govt. May your eyes be opened before it is toooooooo late for all of us.
Last I checked the Islamofascist fucksticks who attacked this country and kill "infidels" for allah have a visceral hatred of Democracy. Your proctologist called...he found your head.
You have to admit that the Cheney/Cheney/Rove debacle are good with pr. The AlQueda Seven. Please. These people protected the Geneva Convention, which is, in part, to keep our soldiers safe. I have had relatives and friends wounded in Iraq and Afghanistan, and had one nephew die. This isn't just typical Cheney lies, this is frightening. The more we let them define what we "need," the more freedoms we lose. Shame, shame, on them, and anyone who believes their tripe.
Obviously Liz has never read the Constitution. But that's not surprising - neither has her dad. The Court ruled that the detainees have a right to access the courts and the right to consult civilian attorneys. Cheney and Cheney just fear that if the detainees actually access the courts, it will become apparent to even the wingnuts that there was never any evidence on which to detain them in the first place.
OK I get it, like most of the other Veterans I know, we refer to you all and the "American Taliban". You are not a Domestic friend to the US, so what does that make you?
"To protect and defend the United States of America frm all enemies, Foreign and Domestic"!
The constitution protects the rights of the accused. John Adams defended British soldiers involved in the Boston Massacre. That they were not Americans did not prevent them from receiving a proper defense. It was unpopular then, and now, but it was the right thing to do. Republicans/tea party members humiliate themselves and America when they put out this sort of tabloid nonsense. And the people that believe them? Well it's the same people that believe Elvis is being held by aliens.
The Tea Party doesn't like America or Democracy. They want a Government like Iran where only their party line is allowed. Its evident in their positions, slogans, and make up.
Al Qaeda was started by the CIA [against the USSR] which has been buying drugs from it's members ever since. Any wonder the CIA doesn't want open trials?
Al Qaeda was started by the CIA [against the USSR] which has been buying drugs from it's members ever since. Any wonder the CIA doesn't want open trials?
And you say you're not questioning their loyalty, Ms. Cheney? Seriously?
And you say you're not suggesting they share the values of Al Qaeda? Really? "Al Uaeda 7"... "who's values do they share"? Really?
I know I do not share your values. Civilization and the rule of law took century's to build, and you appear ready to tear it all down for something that poses less threat than driving to work in the morning.
Democrats are no different. Just two sides to the same coin. And there are a few exceptions in both parties, or maybe I'm living in the past and the exceptions finally got sacked.
Whose values do the Cheneys share? Stalin, Hitler, Hugo Chavez, and all the other tyrants who don't like people like the "al qaeda 7" who are willing to act as a check on government power.
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Thank God for our brave troops working against all odds, even from their own Government for keeping us Safe. All you Anti America Bloggers are the first ones the Muslim Fanatics will seek out because of your naiveativity. May you RIP.
Its interesting to see who the real Morons here in America Truly are. The idiots who posted replies here who continue to spout Anti American Hate, calling the Cheneys names. When will you people get your Freaking Heads out of your asses? Terrorism is Real,
Yes terrorism is real. But it's YOUR brand of anti-American terrorism. In my opinion you are a seditious terrorist on the wrong side of the Constitution.
The Tea Party people I know and agree with just want a better, smaller government, this includes Republicans and well as Democrats. The video on call holder is great. I am going to call him. I have more questions for him besides who is he hiding.
''All men dream; but not equally. Those who dream by night in the dusty recesses of their minds wake in the day to find that it was vanity; but the dreamers of the day are dangerous men, for they may act out their dreams with open eyes, to make it possible. '' - T. E. Lawrence a.k.a (Lawrence of Arabia)
''Some Englishmen, of whom Kitchener was chief, believed that a rebellion of Arabs against Turks would enable England, while fighting Germany, simultaneously to defeat Turkey. Their knowledge of the nature and power and country of the Arabic-speaking peoples made them think that the issue of such a rebellion would be happy: and indicated its character and method. So they allowed it to begin... '' - Seven Pillars of Wisdom
The Arab Revolt of (1916-1918) followed by ''The Sykes-Picot Agreement of 1916'' is the reason why the Middle East has been such a shitty place ever since. T. E. Lawrence a.k.a (Lawrence of Arabia) said it all so right.
''There could be no honor in sure success, but much might be wrested from a sure defeat.'' - T. E. Lawrence a.k.a (Lawrence of Arabia)
This commercial is unAmerican. "Keep America Safe" as an organization is an oxymoron like "People's Democratic Republic of Korea". What does this organization want? Summary executions? Guilty until proven innocent?
@kitiany If there is something in the Constitution about the right of the US Atty General to appoint free taxpayer-paid attorneys to defend American enemies, and then refuse to disclose the names of those attorneys, I'm sure you can point me to it.
"Keep America Safe" is not an oxymoron. It means just what it says.
As far as "summary executions" and "guilt until proven innocent," you brought that up, as part of your incoherent comment.
Why not disclose the names of volunteer attorneys? Why do we not divulge the names of our operatives? Because it is a crazy world, full of crazy nuts. Some nut or crazy organization might actually issue a fatwa equivalence. Why do you hide behind a nom-de plume henrycate? Are you afraid that some nut may slit your throat in the middle of the night? We do not divulge the names of those who strive for justice innocent until proven guilty.
@henrycate "All men are created equal" etc. If we put people on trial, they are legally entitled to defense, in the form of a licensed attorney. Calling them "enemies" doesn't change the fact that it's still a trial.
Also, we have an interest in making sure they have competent attorneys, so there is no chance to appeal on that issue.
Al Qaeda is a creation of the CIA. AL-CIA-DUH. It is all a bullshit propaganda fabrication to convince americans that invading the middle east is necessary to somehow protect them.
I suggest you do more research on what is going on in this country by your sweet Muslin friends. Better yet google Fitna and hear in their own words what they want to do to the world. It is time for yahoo like you to take your head out of the sand and look around.
Fabric that want to takeover. I am tolerate but not when it takes my freedom away. And I have noticed what we here in America tolerate people in Muslin run countries are killed for talking much less thinking.
It's "tolerant," not "tolerate." Naturally you have the freedom to rant all you want. But if you choose to use lousy grammar, bad spelling, and no punctuation to make your argument, it loses all meaning. Fear not though-- you can justifiably say you actually have something in common with most of the "Leftie" posts here as well. I'm sorry to pick on you, but covering up your error with more bad grammar is just bad.
Its a fact. Iran is an ultra-right hard line government. The same type of government the tea party wants... their way and only their way. Iran is despotic, tea party wants despotic.
I'm not trying to win an argument. I'm trying to suggest that if you can't use language effectively, you can't make an effective argument. So you'll never get reasonable people to listen. For instance, "When all you can attack on his argument is grammar" is equally bad.
All it does it make it look as if you have no other argument so you attack his grammar. Can you understand what he has written? If so, respond to it with your counter points or move on.
When the American government detains anyone suspected of terrorism or other crimes, they're not supposed to be represented by an attorney?? Is that what they're saying??? KeepAmericaSafe apparently wants to keep us safe from democracy.
Wow, so now if u represent someone YOU'RE the criminal? Maybe it's me, but people like Dahmer, Gacy etc... all were obviously guilty, but instead of acting like a third world country we gave these people a trial, and then sent them to prison for the rest of their lives. It's what makes this Country great. It's what keeps all of us safe. Go to another Country and get arrested and see how much you wish you were arrested here instead? Why? Because you know you would get a fair trial. It's American.
And given that even British Soldiers from the Revolutionary War that were part of the Boston Massacre. They ALL were represented by lawyers including one of the Founding fathers. But by the logic of this anti-American hate group (which is what it is), that founding father would be a criminal to be locked up or killed.
The Constitution IS the foundation of the United States. Deny it all you want, you would be wrong. Constitution trumps the Declaration, anyone with common sense would know that context.
Everyone keeps focusing on the Constitution. If you study your history you'd know that the Constitution was not meant to be the defining document of law in the U.S. Marshal established the document as the supreme law in the early 1800's.
Bush, Cheney, Rove, Rice, Rumsfeld, Greenspan, Paulson...wait I know there's more!
ctwatcher 1 week ago
I'm thinking that Liz Cheney's law degree was purchased in full with wads of Halliburton cash.
A layman perhaps could be forgiven for condemning attorneys for representing terror suspects in criminal trials. Liz Cheney has no fucking excuse.
She should have learned in Law 101 that an attorney is bound by the Bar and all standards of professional ethics to act as an unswayable advocate for his client and defend all of the client's rights, no matter how terrible a person that client may be.
Bluesman63 6 months ago 2
This rotten apple sure didn't fall far from daddy Dick's tree. By her logic, any lawyer who defends an accused murderer is pro-murder, any lawyer who defends an accused rapist is pro-rape, and so on ad idiotum.
Bluesman63 6 months ago 2
LOL @ the dramatic music...
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pensiontransfer 11 months ago
haha wow people really hate this video. also, people really hate Liz Cheney.
wvfii 1 year ago
@wvfii can't imagine why (;
integral 1 year ago
I'm glad the approval rate of this video is so low.
FartyFartyPoopyPants 1 year ago
I do not know how the US attorny general think that we are a nation of cowards...........the only coward in this nation .....is him ..!!!!
abdelwareth01 1 year ago
@abdelwareth01 possibly the dumbest statement you've made this year (possibly)
integral 1 year ago
this is great can i upload this on my channel. these sneaky bastards drive me nuts please pass on the truth about oil spill i have a couple of the facts on oil spill on my channel if you want to check them out GOD BLESS AMERICA
boogertait 1 year ago
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xxramblingsxx 1 year ago
Holder the Embolder. Emboldening our enemies, defending terrorists, denying 9/11 was done by Islamic terrorists, and getting ready to put America on trial for "torturing" peaceful muslims.
xxramblingsxx 1 year ago 2
@xxramblingsxx Fox nooze fan? You poor thing.
integral 1 year ago
Those who push this shameful un-American ad are the worst of the worst. They know full well that America has a tradition of respect for the right to legal representation but shamelessly try to manipulate the minds of Americans to play to their vile tune. As a lawyer who loves his country and whose parents endured and survived the hell that was Nazism and Stalinism during WWII, this lowest of low ad turns my stomach. Americans - be vigilant against this shameless, irresponsible propaganda!
sjbesq 1 year ago
@sjbesq Although I tried to below, I could not possibly have said it better myself. An outstanding and important comment.
Bluesman63 6 months ago 2
Absolute propaganda!! Cheneys daughter is just continuing the cause of American neo-conservatism. Pushing for the U.S. to be agressive towards the rest of the world. Of course humans should be considered innocent until proven guilty!! I guarantee most of those locked up at Guantanamo were innocent. One of them was from my home town - David Hicks. Locked up in solitary confinement for 5 years without a trial. Of course they're going to plead guilty!! anything that will mean they can go home.
sderht 1 year ago
I am terribly sorry for disliking this video, as I actually thought it was really neat. However, I liked some videos from another user who is now removing his videos from Youtube, and currently YouTube does not have a way to get rid of the dead links from the liked list, so I am getting rid of most everything.
I will remain subscribed to your site until you tell me to get lost.
nunya7606 1 year ago
Waterboarding is not that bad............Yeah like a shotgun in the face.
genYprogressive 1 year ago
Americans must be the most chicken population ever. They are afraid of everything. And the sad thing, everyone belives it.
MrWhassa 1 year ago
@freedsuriel
sounds like a loving god to me. maybe thats why im so powerful, because my logic sees through your stupid stupid stupid stupid shit
AntiVenomFangX 1 year ago
@freedsuriel
you saying it doesnt change the fact that i am to powerful to be imprisoned. i have proven that already.
titanium is nothing compared to what i broke free of before.
AntiVenomFangX 1 year ago
@freedsuriel
yes what must happen wil happen i agree, but i dont think you understand. the walls of hell arent reinforced strong enough for me and i proved it already.
AntiVenomFangX 1 year ago
@freedsuriel
your futile attempts to insult me doesnt change a thing i said. try again
AntiVenomFangX 1 year ago
@freedsuriel
i was banished to hell but i broke out. what dont you get about it?
i was too powerful to be held in hell, nice try but im not like the others.
AntiVenomFangX 1 year ago
@freedsuriel
i was banished to hell once... but my powers are too strong. i win.
AntiVenomFangX 1 year ago
Why is Obama so much against the Tea Party....arent they community organizing?
dkkght46 1 year ago
@freedsuriel
hahahahahaha take god out from all government and schools? i say with confidence that you are not smart. im sure you belong to the "working class"
homosexuals have rights under the constitution... so we can say with confidence that you are a genius and its not your fault.
AntiVenomFangX 1 year ago
wow. people HATE this video
wvfii 1 year ago
This is silly. Patriotic AMERICAN values require lawyers for the accused. Trashing those values is NOT "Keeping America Safe." Why do Cheney and Kristol hate American traditions so much?
MickeyYahoo 1 year ago
@MickeyYahoo These men were not accused of crimes. They were being held as enemy combatants under the laws of war. Never in our history have we afforded captured combatants access to our civilian courts. Do you believe the hundreds of thousands of captured prisoners we held in previous wars (Germans in WWII? Confederates in the Civil War?) were also entitled to lawyers and access to civilian courts?
nnjhansen 1 year ago
Progressives are Neo-Marxists elitists. "Rules for Radicals" is their Bible, and they do Not care even one little tiny bit about the American people.
3martijns 1 year ago
Liz Cheney is worse than her father.
cymer00 1 year ago
Al Quaeda seven, or at least seven of them, Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Rove, Rice, Blair and Sarkozy, and the list goes on and on and on.
enddebtslavery 1 year ago 2
The ten remain. Blessed be He who came in the name of the Father.
SparklingVoices 1 year ago
Some of you should read the words of the left-wing wacko Ronald Reagan, who argued FOR civilian trials for terrorism suspects, saying that it was the best way to defeat them, with the thing that separates us from them: The rule of law.
guyanakoolaid 1 year ago 8
The vast majority of the attorneys in question did not volunteer to serve as counsel in trials. The detainees were not charged with criminal offenses. They were being held as enemy combatants under the laws of war. As such they were never entitled to either a trial or counsel.
nnjhansen 1 year ago
@guyanakoolaid Such a great point, as it seems that way too many of the people who worship Reagan fail to understand much about him, including the wisdom of that stance on terrorism suspects.
Bluesman63 6 months ago
Why does their identify matter? Does Liz support McCarthy style hearings personally attacking these attorneys for practicing their constitutional duty? that's like demonizing a doctor who treats or saves the life of a person society deems "bad" for whatever social or political reason... what kind of world are we living in.... so sad
nikki2579 1 year ago 2
@nikki2579 Their identity matters a great deal. There are conflict of interest concerns if these attorneys are now playing a role in the formulation of detainee policy.
These attorneys were under no constitutional obligation (or legal or ethical one) to voluntarily represent these men.
nnjhansen 1 year ago
@nnjhansen your right the attorneys weren't under a constitutional obligation to defend detainees, however, the liberties afforded under the constitution, apply to citizen detainees and non-citizen detainees alike. Because the const requires that when the government takes a person's freedom, that person has a right to (1) counsel (2) and rebut the evidence against them. If the gov doesn't do this the person has a right to file a writ of habeas corpus requiring the gov to do so.
nikki2579 1 year ago 2
@nikki2579 so they need an attorney to file that writ. PERIOD. so the attorney is carrying out the constitutional duties and procedural requirements of the judicial system. which apply to enemies and citizens a like.
nikki2579 1 year ago
@nikki2579 For 220 years the United States detained tens of thousands of enemy combatants during war without a single one of those detained being afforded the ability to challenge their detention in US civilian courts this includes thousands of combatants were detained on US soil during WWII.
FWIW, no one has the right to counsel when filing a habeas petition.
nnjhansen 1 year ago
@nnjhansen HOW IS THE WRIT FILED WITHOUT COUNSEL? that makes no sense.
nikki2579 1 year ago
@nikki2579 The vast majority of habeas petitions in the US are filed by inmates in prison pro se, not by counsel.
nnjhansen 1 year ago
@nnjhansen my point is, if a detainee is able to file a writ he has the right to counsel, and the US has classified the enemy combatant as UNLAWFUL detainees, therefore the rules of war don't apply to them (like in WWII or the Civil War), HOWEVER the Supreme Ct ruled in the Boubin case that enemy combatants can file a petition for writ of habeas corpus, so the const. RIGHTS DO EXTEND TO THEM. the right to counsel and the right to find out what evidence the gov has against them.
nikki2579 1 year ago
@nikki2579 My point is you are incorrect as a matter of law. No one has the right to counsel to file a habeas petition. The right to counsel applies to criminal proceedings and does not extend to the filing of habeas petitions.
The Supreme Court overturned centuries of practice and its own precedent to divine such a right out of thin air. Despite the blatant overstepping of their constitutional authority, it did not extend so far as requiring that detainees have counsel.
nnjhansen 1 year ago
@nikki2579 Also, the laws of war apply to unlawful combatants just as they do to lawful combatants with regard to a nation's ability to detain them for the duration of hostilities. An unlawful combatant, by his own actions, has placed himself outside the protections afforded to a lawful combatant by the Geneva Conventions.
What you (and the attorneys in question) have done is to afford those who disregard the standards of lawful combat a greater level of due process than those who abide by them
nnjhansen 1 year ago
@nnjhansen Those prisoners fell under the Geneva Convention, yes?
MickeyYahoo 1 year ago
@MickeyYahoo Which prisoners are you referring to re: Geneva Conventions?
nnjhansen 1 year ago
In my mind, Liz Cheney is as non credible as Orly Taitz.
She's the crazy birther lady for those that don't know.
Trollmaster21 1 year ago
whats wrong with advocating for detainees?
fuckamerica109 1 year ago 3
Do you really need to ask what is wrong with volunteering your time to advocating for those who wage war against your own nation?
nnjhansen 1 year ago
@ nnjhansen so you don't believe in innocent till proven guilty. If we deny them a lawyer, then who's to say an abusive government won't arrest someone for fake charges and deny them counsel? Or do you really have such blind trust in your government?
You're far more like Mao or Stalin than Washington, Adams, and Jefferson. You should have been born in a dictatorship.
Trollmaster21 1 year ago 11
@Trollmaster21 This is not a question of guilt or innocence. It is a question of whether or not a person is an enemy combatant. These men are being held as combatants during a war. Washington, Adams, and Jefferson all acknowleged a nation's ability to hold combatants in a time of war.
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vechorik 3 months ago
They represented those who have been accused, but not given a trial to determine if they were indeed guilty.
An accusation does not mean one is actually guilty. I could accuse you of raping and murdering a 12 year old girl, but the existence of an accusation does not mean you actually DID rape and murder a 12 year old girl.
halleyscomet 1 year ago
@halleyscomet The men they chose to represent had NOT be3en accused of any crime. They were not being held as a criminal but as a combatant, just like those that have been held by every nation at war.
This nation has held tens of thousands of enemy combatants in our history and none of them had ever been entitled to civilian counsel to challenge their detention in our civilian courts before now.
This is not a criminal justice issue but a national security one.
nnjhansen 1 year ago
@nnjhansen The Founders of the country were explicit about this kind of conflict betwen individual rights and the need for security. "The man who would choose security over freedom deserves neither." Thomas Jefferson (1743 - 1826)
MickeyYahoo 1 year ago
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exactly. 1743 - 1826.
AntiVenomFangX 1 year ago
@nnjhansen you must not believe in or read the constitution of the united states. due process is a right that you can't pretend doesn't exist whenever you want....
nikki2579 1 year ago
@nikki2579 The US Constitution is a contract between the people of the US and its government. It does not and was never intended to apply to foreign nationals engaged in armed conflict with the United States.
Do you believe every German soldier captured in WWII was entitled to a civilian attorney to contest his detention in a US court?
How about Confederate soldiers captured during the Civil War?
nnjhansen 1 year ago
@nnjhansen German's captured during WWII were considered prisoners of war detained under the laws of war, which require their release at the end of the war, the same for the rebel confederate soldiers. The difference here, is there's no end to this "war" when will it stop? it doesn't fit within the traditional notions of war.
nikki2579 1 year ago 2
@nikki2579 The detainees held in this current war are also held as enemy combatants under the laws of war. No war comes with an expiration date. We are entitled to hold them until hostilities cease or the military determines they no longer pose a threat.
nnjhansen 1 year ago
Since when does this matter? Are you dumb enough to think Eric Holder wants to see these guys walk or something? speaking of qualifications how does being the daughter of a Dick Cheney who should be in prison for presenting false intel to start a war and committing treason by outing a CIA agent for political gain make her an expert on anything? lets see her resume first then lets decide if she is qualified to make these statements I dont think she is.
ECOBONDMAN 1 year ago
Why don't you do a little research before you make comments that make you look ignorant?
Liz Cheney is an accomplished attorney and former State Dept official. She is well qualified to comment on these issues.
Read the Senate Intelligence Committee Report on pre-war intelligence. The statements made by the President and VP were found to be "substantiated by the available intelligence." No one lied.
The CIA employee you refer to was "outed" by a State Dept official, not the VP.
nnjhansen 1 year ago
@ nnjhansen you can justify the mistake of the Iraq war, but what you're really saying is "I was right to be wrong because others were wrong too."
If you truly believed what you say then you would have no problem with Bush, Cheney, etc. testify under oath do you? Because if you're wrong and they did lie America into a needless war, you must admit that would be treason.
Your answer will prove if you're an honest broker or a GOP hack. I look forward to your response. (or probably lack of one)
Trollmaster21 1 year ago
@Trollmaster21 I reject your premise that he war in nIraq was a mistake.
The statements of Bush, Cheney, Powell, Rumsfeld, and Rice were all evaluated by the Senate Intelligence Committee and found to have been substantiated by the available intelligence. They did not lie and I see no legitimate venue in which they would testify.
Which enemy do you believe they were providing aid and comfort to?
nnjhansen 1 year ago
@ nnjhanses you can side against the majority of the America people on this issue if you like.
If you're unaware that lying Americans into a war and causing the needless deaths of US soldiers is treason then you prove you're not a patriot.
Let me ask you another question to see you dodge the answer:
If it was proven beyond a shadow of a doubt to everyone that they did deliberately mislead the US into Iraq, would you admit that there were traitors in the Bush admin?
Trollmaster21 1 year ago
@Trollmaster21 It has already been proven conclusively that they did NOT lie.
Treason is a crime with specific elements. What enemy would they have provided aid and comfort to?
nnjhansen 1 year ago
Well, it's hardly a 'new' low. We had McCarthy and the KKK and Tim McVeigh. But it sure is down there in the bottom of the pit. Why didn't they show the American Flag burning? Normally, with the spooky music they show liberals burning flags. The GOP has to cater to a disparate base: Insurance CEOs say frog, the GOP hops. And there's the bottom 5% of the 4th grade dropouts. Insurance execs are taken care of in boardrooms and country clubs, for the dropouts, there's this pablum.
radioflyer52 1 year ago
Hey Cheney family get out of my state (VA) and take Dan Snyder with you. Thanks.
rbfett 1 year ago 2
John Adams defended captured British soliders in thier trials, so that means by your logic, Mrs. Cheney, John Adams is a traitor to your nation by defending enemies of it.
TgtechCommander 1 year ago
They are lawyers, they defend those accused of a crime, dosen't matter the crime. Terrorism, fraud, murder....child murder. Those who defend these criminals aren't rapists or murderers themselves they are just doing thier jobs.
TgtechCommander 1 year ago
First of all the individuals these lawyers chose to represent were not accused of a crime. They were being detained as enemy combatants and not entitled to counsel.
These lawyers were aiding enemy combatants in a time of war.
nnjhansen 1 year ago
War? Every invading aggressor involved is guilty of war crimes according to the Nuremberg laws used to try Nazis. It's an illegal police action and the US government is now a fascist state by the strictest definition. The military is a tool for private interests justifying illegal acts of aggression and conquest all based on admitted lies.
And you are a little dolly parroting propaganda. A stooge.
OzzybanOswald 1 year ago
Maybe you missed it but on Sept. 11, 2001 a group of Islamic terrorists called al Qaeda committed the largest in a series of acts of war against the US. This attack killed almost 3,000 civilians. Yes, this is war. You need to wake up and face this reality.
nnjhansen 1 year ago
Wrong on every count.
You know what? Just because you saw it on TV and you mindlessly accept the unlikely scenario laid out for you by a dictator, it doesn't mean the myth has any correlate in reality.
The 9/11 victims are just fictitious identities supported by actors. They're VICSIMS.
And you have no idea.
OzzybanOswald 1 year ago
That doesn't change this country is a country based on laws, and a constitution. But clearly you don't agree with its laws or constitution since clearly agree both should be violated with dealing with these people.
cliveklg 1 year ago
What law or constitutional provision are you referring to?
How many enemy combatants has this nation held since its founding? Until 2002, how many of these detainees successfully challenged their detention in federal court? How many of them were afforded civilian legal counsel to challenge their detention?
nnjhansen 1 year ago
A "war" with no foreseeable end. Other have been released who have been threats, under Bush Cheney. If they are guilty, try them and get it over with. But stop the excuses, which is what you are doing with the above. You've fallen for the lies Liz and many of the others have used. The names are available for anyone to look up. And she is trying to portray the lawyers as evil themselves.
cliveklg 1 year ago
How many wars come with specific end dates?
The Bush administration was wrong to release many of those detained. Many of those released have returned to the fight and killed Americans or allies. Are you saying that Obama should make the same mistake?
This is not a question of guilt. These men are not criminal defendants but enemy combatants held under the traditional laws of war.
nnjhansen 1 year ago
please keep America safe from the terrorist threat - er, which is... America
Or more succinctly, Dick, couldn't-be-bothered-to-serve, Cheney's America
skullpepper 1 year ago
This is some real bullshit. Bullshit that makes you say wow. How low can you go...lol
joseph591 1 year ago
Love all this Lefty hate speech about hate speech! Your comments are so unifying! So "tolerant" and "inclusive."
Hypocrites.
OmahaNan 1 year ago
And yours is any better. Pull the plank from your own eye before pointing the sliver in others.
cliveklg 1 year ago
The people who made this video are clearly whats wrong with America. Fucking shame, really.
heatslap 1 year ago
The Obama administration: Enabling terrorist's everywhere.
ObaManure 1 year ago
The liberal complaining here are such hypocrites. If John Ashcroft would have packed the Justice Dept. with lawyers who spent their careers doing pro bono work defending the KKK and then refused to name them, the left would have screamed bloody murder. Liberals here know I am correct. You are all a bunch of punk ass hypocrites.
therealrevo 1 year ago
I agree. I have noticed that the liberal left only believe in free speech and expression when it comes from them. Sounds kinda Islamic to me only when you disagree with them you are marked for death.
msusesherbrain 1 year ago
Except their names are out there for anyone to look up. Doh...oops, another lie by Liz you fell for.
cliveklg 1 year ago
If you consider the ACLU a liberal front, as John Ashcroft does, than you might be surprised to learn that the ACLU has represented the KKK in the past. But I'm sure what will really make you mad is that Ashcroft has publicly supported the use of civilian trials in prosecuting terrorists, stating plainly that they have "use and utility."
mheiserweb 1 year ago 3
As reprehensible as the KKK is, if they have a legal concern regarding the constitution, then they have every right to representation. Your argument only expands the ridiculous attempt to paint those who are doing their legal duty as just as bad or criminal also.
cliveklg 1 year ago 2
Thanks for the laugh. Clearly Dick wasted his money sending Liz to law school. Attacking lawyers for doing their job is The Un-America act here.
Maxsio415 1 year ago
It makes perfect sense. They can't destroy the country if they aren't in the executive branch, so they're trying to influence the American people to take down the current one. "Hey, we totally fucked your country up. I realize the other guys are in charge now keeping us from profiting off your losses, so overthrow that shit and put us back in charge. Thaaaaaaanks."
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tolerantrobbob 1 year ago
Seig Heil Dick Chaney and your little bitch of a daughter. Dr. Goebbels could not have done a better job. Only foxnews flunkies will believe this crap.
irkulyen 1 year ago 4
Eric Holder, first he ws going to prosecute the CIA, now not. Then he was going to try KM in NYC, now not. Keep up the good work Liz, call this traitor out whenever he pulls one of his Anti-American moves.
jh2r777 1 year ago
this ad is designed to prey on the fears of retarded people, and since America is right around 58% retarded, well...
wvfii 1 year ago 3
Bush and Cheny did more to damage this country and help the cause of al qaeda more than any lawyer could have done.
This campaign is total crap, but what can you expect from a Cheny?
surnamematt 1 year ago 2
"The career of McCarthy and the specter of McCarthyism ended only when a handful of Republicans including Prescott Bush, the grandfather of George W. Bush -- joined in a Senate resolution of censure against him and his tactics. Perhaps we have witnessed such a moment of truth this week, when 19 prominent Republican attorneys, including Kenneth Starr and several former Bush Justice and Defense Department appointees, denounced the Keep America Safe smears as shameful, unjust and destructive.""
MsDutchfox 1 year ago 2
So wait Liz, during Bush and your father's term, AG Ashcroft speaking on their behalf, this transparency aided enemies of the United States... But now not having transparency is aiding them. Hmm, interesting.
And also interesting that a simple internet search will pull up any of the names you want... so as on John Stewart "Ah ha! The names are out there, just not in list form." Huh Liz? So what is the objection you have again?
cliveklg 1 year ago
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cliveklg 1 year ago
Keep America Safe does noting their name states. Its a hate group devised to divide American, and cause hatred, built on a completely dishonest portray of Bush/Cheney, and a complete hatred of the Democracy this country was founded on. Cheney was the one pushing for more presidential power, to centralize power and to marginalize the Judicial and Representative Branches. Anyone that doesn't agree with them are Traitors. Despotic governments like Iran which is an Ultra-Right Government also.
cliveklg 1 year ago
I would be interested is knowing what part of the country you live in... I would guess northeast Iran not ultra-right unless you call the Sharia law right. Do some research on what the Iranian govt really is before calling someone who wants to keep America safe despotic govt. May your eyes be opened before it is toooooooo late for all of us.
msusesherbrain 1 year ago
Last I checked the Islamofascist fucksticks who attacked this country and kill "infidels" for allah have a visceral hatred of Democracy. Your proctologist called...he found your head.
SFCMAC57 1 year ago 2
This is right wing drivel
nategold1 1 year ago
You have to admit that the Cheney/Cheney/Rove debacle are good with pr. The AlQueda Seven. Please. These people protected the Geneva Convention, which is, in part, to keep our soldiers safe. I have had relatives and friends wounded in Iraq and Afghanistan, and had one nephew die. This isn't just typical Cheney lies, this is frightening. The more we let them define what we "need," the more freedoms we lose. Shame, shame, on them, and anyone who believes their tripe.
Achorasmom 1 year ago
Obviously Liz has never read the Constitution. But that's not surprising - neither has her dad. The Court ruled that the detainees have a right to access the courts and the right to consult civilian attorneys. Cheney and Cheney just fear that if the detainees actually access the courts, it will become apparent to even the wingnuts that there was never any evidence on which to detain them in the first place.
glh0904 1 year ago
Liz Chaney is shameles; she should be shameful. Go away.
mareerochester 1 year ago
May I quote your father, Liz?
"Go Fuck Yourself."
jensen1901 1 year ago
OK I get it, like most of the other Veterans I know, we refer to you all and the "American Taliban". You are not a Domestic friend to the US, so what does that make you?
"To protect and defend the United States of America frm all enemies, Foreign and Domestic"!
kuemmet 1 year ago
And Liz goes against everything America was founded on. So you are prepared to defend America from correct?
cliveklg 1 year ago
Go fuck yourself Liz Cheney! And your father too! Stupid bitch.
jimmycapp29 1 year ago
The constitution protects the rights of the accused. John Adams defended British soldiers involved in the Boston Massacre. That they were not Americans did not prevent them from receiving a proper defense. It was unpopular then, and now, but it was the right thing to do. Republicans/tea party members humiliate themselves and America when they put out this sort of tabloid nonsense. And the people that believe them? Well it's the same people that believe Elvis is being held by aliens.
spammatube 1 year ago 3
The Tea Party doesn't like America or Democracy. They want a Government like Iran where only their party line is allowed. Its evident in their positions, slogans, and make up.
cliveklg 1 year ago
They are wearing make up??
adturner14 1 year ago
Al Qaeda was started by the CIA [against the USSR] which has been buying drugs from it's members ever since. Any wonder the CIA doesn't want open trials?
auditthepolls 1 year ago
Al Qaeda was started by the CIA [against the USSR] which has been buying drugs from it's members ever since. Any wonder the CIA doesn't want open trials?
auditthepolls 1 year ago
auditthepolils,
Wrong it was the Mushahadeen, and they worked with them, not created them.
cliveklg 1 year ago
The Mujahadeem became AlQaeda. And they were funded by the CIA with our taxes. Probably still are.
auditthepolls 1 year ago
Jon Stewart handles these idiots with flare. Check out his episode where his rips Liz Cheney a new one.
kubush 1 year ago
blah. gay.
EliteOfTheRad 1 year ago
very well done....
recordsare 1 year ago
Here's a great question...
Why didn't Cheney try these terrorist detainees over the seven years he detained them?
Now that somebody else is actually doing something about it, he wants to be angry about a fair trial.
Yet, he could have tried them any way he wanted as vice president, if he was remotely accountable.
TheBlueberrynugs 1 year ago 3
"Al Qaeda Seven?" "Who's values do they share?"
And you say you're not questioning their loyalty, Ms. Cheney? Seriously?
And you say you're not suggesting they share the values of Al Qaeda? Really? "Al Uaeda 7"... "who's values do they share"? Really?
I know I do not share your values. Civilization and the rule of law took century's to build, and you appear ready to tear it all down for something that poses less threat than driving to work in the morning.
codediporpal 1 year ago 4
This video proves how much Republicans hate the American justice system, where everyone is guaranteed a fair trail. They despise it.
LosAngelesWriter 1 year ago 6
What a disgusting video. This is the first step to the Republican party becoming an American Taliban.
Republican's hate everything our country and constitution stand for, they hate our freedom and they hate our democracy.
Disgusting . . .
Esoteric0714 1 year ago
Democrats are no different. Just two sides to the same coin. And there are a few exceptions in both parties, or maybe I'm living in the past and the exceptions finally got sacked.
undeadpresident 1 year ago
that they need to be publicly accountable and not secret. i am not surprised it confused you.
jcruenv 1 year ago
FOUR LEGS GOOD, TWO LEGS BETTER!!!
that's all I'm hearing
evangrogers 1 year ago
Whose values do the Cheneys share? Stalin, Hitler, Hugo Chavez, and all the other tyrants who don't like people like the "al qaeda 7" who are willing to act as a check on government power.
nleedy 1 year ago 3
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Thank God for our brave troops working against all odds, even from their own Government for keeping us Safe. All you Anti America Bloggers are the first ones the Muslim Fanatics will seek out because of your naiveativity. May you RIP.
FMTFXE22 1 year ago
Its interesting to see who the real Morons here in America Truly are. The idiots who posted replies here who continue to spout Anti American Hate, calling the Cheneys names. When will you people get your Freaking Heads out of your asses? Terrorism is Real,
FMTFXE22 1 year ago
Yes terrorism is real. But it's YOUR brand of anti-American terrorism. In my opinion you are a seditious terrorist on the wrong side of the Constitution.
jballew37 1 year ago
The most stupid political clip I´ve ever seen. Sincere condolences to the poor people in the US who have to cope with this bunch of morons.
psychcowboy 1 year ago
The Tea Party people I know and agree with just want a better, smaller government, this includes Republicans and well as Democrats. The video on call holder is great. I am going to call him. I have more questions for him besides who is he hiding.
msusesherbrain 1 year ago
He has the right to remain silent.
Jaronamooo 1 year ago
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And the people have the right to know!
MoneyVSMetal 1 year ago
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texas224 1 year ago
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''Some Englishmen, of whom Kitchener was chief, believed that a rebellion of Arabs against Turks would enable England, while fighting Germany, simultaneously to defeat Turkey. Their knowledge of the nature and power and country of the Arabic-speaking peoples made them think that the issue of such a rebellion would be happy: and indicated its character and method. So they allowed it to begin... '' - Seven Pillars of Wisdom
texas224 1 year ago
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The Arab Revolt of (1916-1918) followed by ''The Sykes-Picot Agreement of 1916'' is the reason why the Middle East has been such a shitty place ever since. T. E. Lawrence a.k.a (Lawrence of Arabia) said it all so right.
''There could be no honor in sure success, but much might be wrested from a sure defeat.'' - T. E. Lawrence a.k.a (Lawrence of Arabia)
texas224 1 year ago
This commercial is unAmerican. "Keep America Safe" as an organization is an oxymoron like "People's Democratic Republic of Korea". What does this organization want? Summary executions? Guilty until proven innocent?
kitiany 1 year ago
@kitiany If there is something in the Constitution about the right of the US Atty General to appoint free taxpayer-paid attorneys to defend American enemies, and then refuse to disclose the names of those attorneys, I'm sure you can point me to it.
"Keep America Safe" is not an oxymoron. It means just what it says.
As far as "summary executions" and "guilt until proven innocent," you brought that up, as part of your incoherent comment.
henrycate 1 year ago
The constitution doesn't give you the right to shave.
Does that mean you should be locked up for grooming yourself?
Esoteric0714 1 year ago
Why not disclose the names of volunteer attorneys? Why do we not divulge the names of our operatives? Because it is a crazy world, full of crazy nuts. Some nut or crazy organization might actually issue a fatwa equivalence. Why do you hide behind a nom-de plume henrycate? Are you afraid that some nut may slit your throat in the middle of the night? We do not divulge the names of those who strive for justice innocent until proven guilty.
kitiany 1 year ago 2
@henrycate "All men are created equal" etc. If we put people on trial, they are legally entitled to defense, in the form of a licensed attorney. Calling them "enemies" doesn't change the fact that it's still a trial.
Also, we have an interest in making sure they have competent attorneys, so there is no chance to appeal on that issue.
particle409 1 year ago 2
You would think an organization called "keep america safe" would have a better understanding of America's foundational principals.
Principalian 1 year ago 3
Al Qaeda is a creation of the CIA. AL-CIA-DUH. It is all a bullshit propaganda fabrication to convince americans that invading the middle east is necessary to somehow protect them.
undeadpresident 1 year ago
I suggest you do more research on what is going on in this country by your sweet Muslin friends. Better yet google Fitna and hear in their own words what they want to do to the world. It is time for yahoo like you to take your head out of the sand and look around.
msusesherbrain 1 year ago
Muslin is a fabric.
mheiserweb 1 year ago
Fabric that want to takeover. I am tolerate but not when it takes my freedom away. And I have noticed what we here in America tolerate people in Muslin run countries are killed for talking much less thinking.
msusesherbrain 1 year ago
It's "tolerant," not "tolerate." Naturally you have the freedom to rant all you want. But if you choose to use lousy grammar, bad spelling, and no punctuation to make your argument, it loses all meaning. Fear not though-- you can justifiably say you actually have something in common with most of the "Leftie" posts here as well. I'm sorry to pick on you, but covering up your error with more bad grammar is just bad.
mheiserweb 1 year ago
Its a fact. Iran is an ultra-right hard line government. The same type of government the tea party wants... their way and only their way. Iran is despotic, tea party wants despotic.
cliveklg 1 year ago
When all you can attack on his argument is grammar, and throw out the words "leftie" then you've already lost.
cliveklg 1 year ago
I'm not trying to win an argument. I'm trying to suggest that if you can't use language effectively, you can't make an effective argument. So you'll never get reasonable people to listen. For instance, "When all you can attack on his argument is grammar" is equally bad.
mheiserweb 1 year ago
All it does it make it look as if you have no other argument so you attack his grammar. Can you understand what he has written? If so, respond to it with your counter points or move on.
cliveklg 1 year ago
Its the internet, not englsh class.
XxSGMHxJOKERxX 1 year ago
That's pretty funny. A comment that is both prosaic and ironic at the same time. I hope it was intentional.
mheiserweb 1 year ago
All men have rights endowed by their Creator. They are not given nor taken away by any nation's constitution.
gvt2u 1 year ago
When the American government detains anyone suspected of terrorism or other crimes, they're not supposed to be represented by an attorney?? Is that what they're saying??? KeepAmericaSafe apparently wants to keep us safe from democracy.
gvt2u 1 year ago 3
More than 300 convictions in the criminal justice system. 3 in the tribunal system and others freed/overturned/etc.
Why does "Keep America Safe" want to let the terrorists go?
theominousthey 1 year ago
good point
MickMan211 1 year ago
Wow, so now if u represent someone YOU'RE the criminal? Maybe it's me, but people like Dahmer, Gacy etc... all were obviously guilty, but instead of acting like a third world country we gave these people a trial, and then sent them to prison for the rest of their lives. It's what makes this Country great. It's what keeps all of us safe. Go to another Country and get arrested and see how much you wish you were arrested here instead? Why? Because you know you would get a fair trial. It's American.
walcrowe 1 year ago 5
Not to mention that the comparison to German POWs isn't accurate. These people aren't even classified as such.
JohnWFern 1 year ago
And given that even British Soldiers from the Revolutionary War that were part of the Boston Massacre. They ALL were represented by lawyers including one of the Founding fathers. But by the logic of this anti-American hate group (which is what it is), that founding father would be a criminal to be locked up or killed.
cliveklg 1 year ago 2
And the Nazi leaders themselves, which I neglected to mention, were in fact given attorneys and a fair trial at Nuremberg.
JohnWFern 1 year ago 3
why the secrecy? it's so they don't get attacked, on tv or in person, by people like you
whitefire64 1 year ago
The Constitution IS the foundation of the United States. Deny it all you want, you would be wrong. Constitution trumps the Declaration, anyone with common sense would know that context.
cliveklg 1 year ago
If you don't like or support the constitution as are basis and foundation of government, then you yourself are the one who hates America.
cliveklg 1 year ago
Everyone keeps focusing on the Constitution. If you study your history you'd know that the Constitution was not meant to be the defining document of law in the U.S. Marshal established the document as the supreme law in the early 1800's.
KinesianMarch 1 year ago