Humble and Hawkish, Obama Defends War, Urges Peace

[MaxfieldMurdock]

Obama how dare you accept this prize.72 drone missile attacks in 15 months.

[bobbytiger]

It sure wasn't hard to find The Bama and Michelle in the crowd was it?

Even Michelle looked a little uncomfortable in that sea of white people.

Now,

grab that "peace" prize, and

hurry up and send over those 30,000 troops, (added to the 17,000 you already sent), and

try to win YOUR war.

[SebastianQuinsella]

bobbytiger, i voted for this fraud

i am so embarrassed and angry at this charlatan.

he will not be getting my vote again nor that of anyone I know.

he is in the pocket of wall Street millionnaires and all of his actions so far tell us that. i am very active politically and I am NOT alone in my sentiments.

he is a crashing disappointment and an american disgrace. americans who voted for him are awakening from their feel-good coma and they are not happy with what they're seeing...very sad

[mopsius]

Michelle don't look too happy.

[CAKERUSK]

Due to his nobel PRICE now Afghan ,US and NATO countries will see more deed bodies.One thing is clear he cant win this war not at all even he complete his centuries of nobel PRICE.You can kill innocent people but you cant kill ideology which was created US Empire.

[mopsius]

It's the end of NATO nicely enough.

And it is also the end of US empire, and will lead directly to a choice between radical restructuring or total collapse and disintegration.

The Right Wing, including most Democrats, will fight restructuring tooth and nail and to the last drop of their designer aftershave.

[mopsius]

Ah yes, Amway's Artistry line, from the DeVos pere et fils--the son Erik Prince's brother-in-law.

You remember Erik Prince, don't you--founder of Blackwater and now Xe and his new Afghani private air force.

Business is good--buy your makeup from an ex-soldier or military contractor.

Won't cost YOU an arm and a leg, will it?

Hark the herald cash registers sing, glory to the newborn...brown paper bag Nobel Laureate? Cardboard box? White House House Nigger?

[mopsius]

Hey, Home Boys, ever notice Prince's Blackwater/Xe is lilly white, just like the Navy Seals?

No, never noticed, eh?

[mopsius]

The Russians, the Chinese, et all are studying the video of this speech closely.

They now know he is not too smart and not much more than a figurehead.

[mopsius]

Did the White House staff electro-shock Bush every day?

[johnl5r3w]

@mopsius can you elaborate on what you mean by that?

[nomosocialists]

OBLAHBLAH can never be descibed as HUMBLE! He is an gocentric Ass!

[mopsius]

From cues seen in this video he seems to be a Naricissist but performing for his mother.

[mopsius]

He had no black African father figure it would seem, even before two.

He is his mama's little man, no?

[mopsius]

He looks up to white authority figures and military--his white grandfather's family?

[mopsius]

"Humbly Hawkish"--that is your typical White Protestant oxymoron bullshit.

That's the commentator, but Generalissimo El Senor Presidente is acting it out.

Every so often you get a micro-second flash of self-disgust and fright--almost like, "Do they see through me."

Clinton was a smoother liar because he was pathological and had a sense of humor.

Bush had lost so many brains cell to dope and booze and Billy Graham who knows what he was.

[mopsius]

Look at those dumbass US troops stumbling around on the ground in Afghanistan with what--80 fucking pounds of gear?

Complete and utter functions of their vehicles.

The Brass should be lined up and shot.

[mopsius]

The troops in the clip are bait pure and simple.

[mopsius]

Poor little boy--is he going to cry?

[mopsius]

LBJ resartus.

[mopsius]

So how many of these new 30,000 are going to be killed.

Start counting.

[mopsius]

How many grievously mutilated?

The killed to wounded ratio for the US in Vietnam was about one to 3.5.

In Iraq and Afghanistan it is one to 14 or so.

That translates into a lot of very expensive Afghani vegetables.

If the vegetables can still have children when they get back--lots of genitals are blown off by road bombs--will they name their first born Barack or Obama?

[mopsius]

Anyway sending more troops to Afghanistan will be a disaster, so let everyone interested in seeing the US predatory captialist state collapse even more quickly cheer.

Hip hip hooray!

[mopsius]

Typical US and Neo-Con doublethink--the US even in its Imperialism is revolutionary and Obama is like King and Ghandhi?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

We are dealing with the usual US mentally ill Capitalist sick puppies here.

[mopsius]

"But" the announcer says, Generalissimo El Senor Presidente Obama Da Lie Llama, "says force is sometimes necessary, and the non-violence of Gandhi and Martin Luther King impractical."

Ah, but Gandhi aimed at overthrowing British Colonial rule in Indian and King fought to overthrow white racism in the US and also against Vietnam.

So the Generallissimo now identifies hismelf as a revolutionary and says that force is unavoidable?

[mopsius]

"But capitalism only became capitalist imperialism at a definite and very high stage of its development, when certain of its fundamental characteristics began to change into their opposites, when the features of the epoch of transition from capitalism to a higher social and economic system had taken shape and revealed themselves in all spheres...."

V.I. Lenin 1

[mopsius]

"Economically, the main thing in this process is the displacement of capitalist free competition by capitalist monopoly. Free competition is the basic feature of capitalism, and of commodity production generally; monopoly is the exact opposite of free competition, but we have seen the latter being transformed into monopoly before our eyes..."

V.I. Lenin

[mopsius]

"...creating large-scale industry and forcing out small industry, replacing large-scale by still larger-scale industry, and carrying concentration of production and capital to the point where out of it has grown and is growing monopoly: cartels, syndicates and trusts, and merging with them, the capital of a dozen or so banks, which manipulate thousands of millions...."

V.I. Lenin 3

[mopsius]

"At the same time the monopolies, which have grown out of free competition, do not eliminate the latter, but exist above it and alongside it, and thereby give rise to a number of very acute, intense antagonisms, frictions and conflicts. Monopoly is the transition from capitalism to a higher system...."

V.I. Lenin 4

[mopsius]

I"f it were necessary to give the briefest possible definition of imperialism we should have to say that imperialism is the monopoly stage of capitalism. Such a definition would include what is most important, for, on the one hand, finance capital is the bank capital of a few very big monopolist banks, merged with the capital of the monopolist associations of industrialists..."

V.I. Lenin 5

[mopsius]

" and, on the other hand, the division of the world is the transition from a colonial policy which has extended without hindrance to territories unseized by any capitalist power, to a colonial policy of monopolist possession of the territory of the world, which has been completely divided up. "

V.I. Lenin 6

[mopsius]

This is just a small excerpt but not the passage numbered 5, especially.

[berlicho09]

that was a powerful speech thanks mr president

[Tobias8164]

yeah its a slap a big fucking slap.

what a drama man..

nuke USA.

[smp236520]

secruity in afghn is a joke the real reason that the us r there is so that they can claim a base that is near iran and china, get a oil pipe that connects the neighbour countries and to c if they is all the accient treasures that av been reported. oh and also 2 stick the us flag in the middle 2 say yep we did it. if they wanted secruity and democrosy y was the election fixed, y pass a law that allows a man 2 rape his wife, y r kids being sold on the street 2 pay 4 food. well done obama

[BlueStateChronicle]

Cindy Sheehan was right....

[mopsius]

Cindy Sheehan was right about a lot of things but for all that she ran an incompetent campaign against Pelosi.

The Left cannot afford incompetence.

[mopsius]

All any pof you have to do to see the nearly exact correspondence between Lenin's description of Finance Capitalism and the US today economically and politically is looks at his description, it is close to exact.

One need not be a Marxist to see the correspondence nor need one attribute Lenin prophecy.

Rather Lenin was intimattely familiar with the economic state of the Britian, Gerrmany, and Austro-Hungary of his day.

[mopsius]

The work of Lenin in question is the essay Imperialism: The Highest Stage Of Capitalism, and it is available online.

[PerryLogan]

Worst Democrat Ever™.

[mopsius]

This will be a long war in the US--it may take a generation to sort out and what will be left is a shambles.

So either way you fuckers waving your made in China US flags over the used car lot that is the US are done for.

[Pokhton]

afghans winning the war against america and his nothernaliance nato etc 60% of afghanistan is back in afghan hand.these fucking americans and they so called alies-slaves ,will lose in afghanistan like the soviets.the only price for the leader of the shithole america is,best in killing inocent people,children and woman.

[mopsius]

What Bush and Bush Lite are in the process of proving is that the future of the species in in Latin America, Russia, and the Far East--not in Western Europe or the United States.

[mopsius]

The violence will come and the Right wing will make the first move.

[mopsius]

For those who really want to hasten the demise of the US sending more troops to Afghanistan and attacking Iran are just the tickets.

[mopsius]

And you fucking racist, thieving, God-believing, genocidal racist White Right Wing Terrorist hyper-Capitalist lunatics will have done it all to your slobbering moronic selves.

[mopsius]

The US is a predatory Capitalist warfare state.

The US is Communism for the rich, Capitalism for the poor.

The US is from each according to need, to each according to excess.

[mopsius]

And this fucking clown doing the minstrel show for the white folk in Norway either makes a hard turn to the real left he is toast.

And there will be no Nixon to follow.

[mopsius]

or he is toast.

[mopsius]

So where is all this "money" going--who has it and what are they doing with it?

Well, what they are doing with it is obvious, isn't it, including fucking everyone else up.

Got it yet, mes enfants.

[mopsius]

And this is the "democratic" system the US is trying to impose on Afghanistan?

On the face of it, Karzai is very likely less corrupt than any President since Eisenhower, or maybe Carter.

[mopsius]

So far, you now what Generalissimo El Sneor Presidente Obama Da Lie Lllama has showed he knows or cares about any of these issues, like the prison industrial complex?

Jack shit.

Less than Jack shit.

[mopsius]

Does anyone seriously believe that lawyers, operating on a for profit basis, want less crime, less divorce, less business disputes and so forth?

[mopsius]

Most of this privatization got going under Reagan and peaked under Bush and Cheney.

[mopsius]

Privatization has been an utter disaster--socially, economically, financially, legally, educationally, and in ten other ways.

[mopsius]

Easy enough not to look at this stuff one supposes.

[mopsius]

The US has close to 300 lawyers per 100,000 population.

Japan has about 10 per hundred thousand.

Cuba as I recall has even less than Japan.

[mopsius]

These are the kind of figures the incompetent ruling elite would rather not have the general American population know or understand.

[mopsius]

One third of all the annual premiums of for profit Health Insurers go for executive salaries and advertising.

That alone is over $700 billion a year.

[MrSTANDFORAMERICA]

Lawyers:

We have to have so many lawyers because of people like you. That would rather sue all thies lives rather than work all their lives.

[mopsius]

Not to put too fine a point on it, Mr.STANDFORAMERICA, shove your mindless, slobbering bullshit up your ass.

[mopsius]

There is no point in talking with the likes of you, debating or arguing.

tbhe US is bankrupt and you and the Right Wing bankrupted it.

Your days are numbered.

[MrSTANDFORAMERICA]

the nation went bankrupt under clinton years ago.

[mopsius]

Clinton left behind a surplus.

Your kind just lies when it comes right down to it, MRSTANDFORAMERICA.

But it wpn;t make a dmaned bit of difference--the US is a terminally sick society on the verge of final collapse.

And good riddance.

[macindrew]

No, the USA wouldn't go bankrupt, they are far wealthier than any other country by far.

[MrSTANDFORAMERICA]

@macindrew: "USA wouldn't go bankrupt".

The USA has been bankrupt, why do you think the USA borrow all these money for bailouts and stimulus as well as to pay the national dept. The USA owes all it can collect for the next 30 years to China.

Just to get money to fund the war, the USA has to borrow money from China

[mopsius]

/Angela Davis has discussed at length what she calls the prison-industrial complex.

Most Americans can't bring themselves even to look at what she clearly proves to be the case--to wit, that the system of "justice" and "criminal law" now operates at least in part to keep a continual flow of prisoners going into hands of the privatized prison contractors, who often then contract their labor, but who also get paid by the state.

[mopsius]

To look at that system with a cold objective eye is to have done with all your naiveties about the American system.

Prisons, like for profit Health Insurance, are just another corporatist enterpise.

[mopsius]

The US now has more people in prison per capita and absolutely than either mainland China or the Russian Federation.

Don't believe that?

Look it up.

[mopsius]

They question to ask is not what the Finance Capitalists have bought, but what so far they have either not bothered to buy or can't buy.

[mopsius]

Capitalists buy any state that is buyable.

Why wouldn't they?

[alexmetista]

I hate commercial on youtube. we have that on tv but we can fastforward it if you record it, hopefully there will be a way to stop that shit.

[mopsius]

Jesse Jackson in the same office has that cracker Gates polishing his wingtips.

[mopsius]

The US is bankrupt and USD is no longer the world reserve currency. More important, the real US economy is a shadow of its former self because of the predations of the Financial Capitalists, who sold out the US, including the industrial capitalists, to China.

This is the predictable last stage of Capitalism, as the Communist Chinese well knew.

[mopsius]

Afghanistan will work out as it works out, as will the US economic collapse. At some point all the PR and propaganda of the Right Wing will guarantee their liquidation, as a bad asset is liquidated.

[mopsius]

Ironically, at some point the incompetent US elite will be begging for Socialism as the only alternative to their vicious, incompetent, imperialist, hyper-Capitalist state.

The only real question is how much blood.

Right now 44,000 Americans a year die because of lack of Health Insurace--that from a recent Harvard statistical study.

[mopsius]

The regime will not even give Americans the right unemployment figures, which is is now not the official 9.8% but 20% or more, as almost all economists acknowledge.

[mopsius]

Also ironically the incompetent elite would be better off if Generalsissimo El Senor Presidente were a Socialist.

At least he would understand economics.

There is no more blood to squeeze out of the stones.

[mopsius]

The Chinese Communist collective leadership directs an economy that feeds and clothers and educates and employs and takes care of the medical needs of 1.3 billion human beings.

China can also now defend itself from imperalist occupation and attacks.

It has also already recovered from the world economic collapse and is moving forward while most of the Capitalist countries continue to collapse.

[lenny380]

defends war - urges peace. Does anyone see a problemwith that? Only Obama could pull this total crap off as something smelling of complete BS.

[post105]

The number killed under Bolshevism surpasses 100 million worldwide, according to the latest estimates.

[mopsius]

From a population that was 99 percent illiterate peasants Cuba now has a higher per capita literacy rate than the US, a higher longevity rate, a lower infant mortality rate--on and on. Cubans have both free education and health care as well.

[mopsius]

These Right Wing Capitalists with their Walt Disney figures about how many "Communists" killed are absurd caricatures andare not worth debating or even correcting.

It is beyond that.

The Cubans know how many died every day under Batista--by being killed, tortured, starved, worked to death, and so forth.

And Batista was just a tool of the US and United Fruit.

Castro looks like a Boy Scout by comparison.

[mopsius]

Or look up what the US did in Guatemala to Arbenz who was not even a Communist but just wanted reform.

It goes on and on.

[petercelik]

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[post105]

According to R.J. Rummel (author of Death By Government), communist Marxist followers are responsible for 100 million people killed. The figure could exceed 250 million.

There is some uncertainty over who is the all-time killer: the Soviet Union or China. Roughly 20 million deaths to the USSR and 65 million to China.

Best estimates are 62 million USSR deaths and 35 million Communist China deaths (but could be up to 127 and 103 million, respectively).

[post105]

The major Marxist leaders, and leading mass murderers, such as Lenin, Mao and Pol Pot, thought they were practicing " true communism "...

In fact, they thought they were instituting an even more perfect communism.

Lenin wrote - "Our prime task is to re-establish what Marx really taught."...

The result was 20 to 127 million dead in the Soviet Union, with a good 5 million dead before Lenin himself died in 1924.

[mopsius]

Capitalism has killed hundreds of millions of human beings, and is still doing so.

The Right never records these deaths at all as a result of Capitalism.

It included those outright murdered but also mass starvation and the "law" used as a weapon against whole classes of defenseless people.

[mopsius]

Thus did the British Liberals, for example, in effect exterminate the British peasantry.

But there are hundreds of similar cases that never appear in "capitalist" history or theory, or are masked or are made into something other than what they are.

This is still going on, in both the world and in the US.

[USPrivate1991]

No Different from Commuism/Marxism.

Despite the ideologies, Communism works for some people....

[mopsius]

The Old Soviets were almost as anti-Marcusian as the Capitalists were--they could not deal with departures from what they thought was a rigid and static ideology.

Incidentally, Ricardo is also key and you will note the Capitalist economists seldom mention him thought he defined Classical economics as a system.

Why?

Because in Ricardo the British Classical Liberal Capitalist system is transparent, and it is exactly what that system is that cannot be made known to the masses.

[RhettLR]

If President Obama walked on water, there are some who would be upset and say he couldn't swim. Lots of people need to get a life.

[FEARisPROFIT]

The title of this clip is an Oxymoron.

It's a brave new world.

[USPrivate1991]

We have to wake up and find the roots of these problems. Its more than just the figurehead president. Its the Military Industrial complex, the Rich who want to Expand the US Empire. The Lobbyist countries who shape US foreign policy. Name calling, blaming, and conspiracy theories gives a simple answer to complex problems.

[USPrivate1991]

Looking at these comments I have to sigh. While I dont realy care for the Commander in Chief's style this far into his presidency, I wouldnt condemn him as some of you guys in here are. Sure he wants to spend money in a form close to socialism, but hey, I dont want him to fail, if he does that means the country we love fails.

[takotheoktopus]

djCASHmachine:

Go watch the episode of "Penn & Teller: Bullshit!" Holier Than Thou. They got some dirt on Mahatma Gandhi and the Dalai Lama as well.

[mopsius]

Generalissimo El Senor Presidente Mahatma Obama Da Lie Llama--ding hao!

Geezus Christ--what would he look like spitting mad?

[MrRambo4]

If Obama bring back the troop from the afganistan than it's going to fall apart as a card house!

[mopsius]

'Fall apart as a house of cards"?

It never reached the status of a house of cards in the first place.

Even house of cards would have taken some brains to engineer.

The US military has been shit out of that commodity for at least fifty years.

[armistices]

I wish somebody would have thrown a shoe at him.

[linkin622]

one party REPUBLOCRATS fire them all....there is no left there is no right

[civonamzuk]

Never thought he'd be so "powerfull" to CHANGE a Nobel Peace Prize into a NOBLE WAR PRIZE.

[ogloosh]

Oh my god there are so many stupid people in this comment section. You all sound like 9/11 truthers.

Obama is nothing special, he is not a dictator, he is not systematically working to destroy the constitution, and really he is not any different then his predecessors. All of you need to turn off Limbaugh and beck and think for yourselves.

That said, obama only got that prize because he is the first black president and can give an inspiring speech. I don't think they realized the irony.

[mopsius]

True enough--the Generalissimo El Senor Presidente is nothing special in context--just a continuation of US predatory Capitalist Imperialism.

Oh, there is this diffrence--the US is bankrupt, legacy of Bush and Cheney.

And USD is no longer the world reserve currency.

Have a nice day, ogloosh.

[chessgame1960]

Merely because a mangy, rabid dog gets a new shinny collar doesn't mean the dog is any less nauseous...besides the collar doesn't mean anything anyway.

[jackiesmithie]

Obama wants peace for dictatoship. He is fast and has all the Democrats helping his destroy our Consitution "in a hurry". He wants to destroy our gov. our economy, our freedom, and our lives. He does not like American people becasue he is not ONE. He was born in Kenya and is not our President.

[thirdcoastguy]

Associated Press sucks as much as Obama does.

[mopsius]

AFP ain't half bad as those things go. Are you ready to ante up or participate in genuinely Left wire serviceperhaps?

Notice the "genuine", thirdcoastguy.

It might even widely disseminate genuine US unemployment figures, for example, which are double the reported number.

[nomosocialists]

AP is as bad as PMSNBC! These Lefties really are humerous.

[qualityrkc]

AP is a terrible news site.

[FuneralFragz]

What a joke.

War is peace?

sounds like doublethink and newspeak to me.

these ppl will be the end of humanity as we know it. get ready for a never ending war and more carbon tax then you could possibly ever afford. not to mention the great health care that is to come....

WAKE UP.

[jackiesmithie]

You are right!!

[blumag88]

This award establishes how the rest of the world views our President, and it also establishes the distrust /hate of the bush administration. Unfortunately for repubs who want to make the future of this country about politics and not the best interest of "ALL" Americans, they choose to be roadblocks to recovery and only concerned about their own self interest. The rest of Americans need to read through the bullshit coming out of the GOP and call them on the facts/ truth! This too shall pass!!!

[mxracer247888]

I cut back on how much soda I drink where is my peace prize

[TheNewVideo]

Shouldn't Obama be impeached like the far left wanted to impeach Bush? Shouldn't he be brought to trial for something like Bush and Cheney were blamed for by the leftists? Where's all that hope and change now?

[qualityrkc]

there isnt proof he tortured people or leaked classified information yet

[jackiesmithie]

Proof he is not the President!!! Born in Kenya. He and the other lawyes, Clinton, Michelle filed in California and got the Judge David O. Carter to help with the cover-up and refused to uphold the Constitution. They are all trying to over throw the governemnt. We all should have listened to Keys. He was right. He is the honest "Black" TRUE

American; NOT Obama.

[jaydagen]

go fuck yourself

[jaydagen]

go fuck yourself

[ogloosh]

The difference being that bush lied to get us into war, obama just inherited it.

Also, the democrats are not leftists, they are politicians. Actual leftists hate obama as much as they hated bush.

[mopsius]

Sure, Generalissimo El Senor Presidente should be impeached immediately after Bush, Cheney, Rice, Rumsfeld, Perle, Wolfowitz, et al. are in prison serving time for war crimes and other criminal acts, and after the Right Wing has been wholly liquidated, like the bad assets they are.

Have a nice day, The New Video.

[thecruiseliner]

Maybe you dont get it. How you talk to your friends matter. just try it one day. Talk like a bully and you will be dealt like a bully. Talk respectfully, and you will get respect.

Leadership by example.

In the other hand Cheney....

loves to send our kids to die in invasions in to protect HIS and his buddies OIL interests...while Cheney had 5 deferments and never served our country.

If you are going to preach war, the least you can do is SERVE.

NO respect for Cheney

[blumag88]

cruiseliner/ You are exactly correct!!!! It goes back to childhood, treat people as you would like to be treated/ lead by example. Simple/childhood behaviour!! And unfortunately for cheney and his administration oh and I forgot the puppet. Apparently they missed out on a respectable upbringing or just didn't listen to what's right and wrong!! This award is more about the peace that the President represents as the leader of the free world! And the fact that he is not "w" definitely factored in!

[mopsius]

US crypto-Calvinist Protestants produce schizophrenia or split personality in their young.

[romelanis]

he got the prize, why? as he is an American president or as an black american president. I don't know the reasons. One thing I belive that the prize is a joke for the world but it wasn't the dream of Mr.Nobel.

[natedog1490]

look dont compare obama to bush,what is wrong with yall? You are the ones that voted him in,and look what the hell he has done to this country,but hey a lot of ppl would rather have someone like bush than obama who is trying to do the right thing for all.Bush should go to jail along with the ppl who voted for his dumb ass.bush is the one not Obama!!!!

[CapitalExchange]

Good God, so they actually gave it to him.

I bet it says "Made in China" on the back..

[OBAMASTINIAN]

Tiger should get one he always gets a piece.

[bust2007]

It's great to see sOooo many ppl fire at him

but none is doing anything WTF??? America has lost it's balls this man would of got killed allreadii, knowing all the harm he's implementing.

But wait! He's part of it! That's right..... Now I gEt it (bak to sleep)

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[Bob6stringer]

Obama is a great mind with a world of issues whose morality or efficacy I don't have a good grip on for judging purposes, yet.

BUT ABOUT THE VIDEO: At the end, why is the sky yellow? Was the reporter green-screened in despite saying he was in Oslo?

[jaydagen]

You're a fucking idiot. You might as well say the same thing about Bush, you sheep cunt.

[BoudiccaBlanc]

Gasp !!!! Could the Obamessiah we "waffling"?

Please people! Obama is a tool for the special interests...just as Bush was a tool for other special interest groups...Who knows, the puppet masters may be the same people ???!!!

Americans take back your country from these parasites!

[studape]

I voted for him and then found out he is a liar4. Rendition, Guantanamo, Illegal non declared war, spying on Americans. He wants to Bush number 3

[raoali80]

Champ and Great democracy .

Slaves of Capitalism and Jews

[BertGriffin88]

Obama,

A relatively short lived philosopher once said, "all we are saying is give peace a chance". Unfortunately, he was killed some 29years ago by a madman. I wonder what he would say in these crazy times that he didn't get to see unfold. Viet Nam was wrong but it was a different war which when ended, actually ended. This never ending Bush/Dick mess is truly a war of insanity where peaceniks would simply be slaughtered as infidels who only deserve death.John was right then, but now ain't then.

[jaydagen]

Go fuck yourself.

[killergames187]

What a joke this is!Obama is going to kill the U.S. as we know it!!!

[hobo59]

So these peace medals are getting sold pretty cheap nowadays huh ? lol Who next< Lady Gaga ?

[bust2007]

I think jay-z is next to get one

[tawny624]

People are just too stupid to understand that the same thing has been going on a VERY long time. The ONLY war is the ruling class against every one else. So just keep arguing about all the details of politics and political philosophy and allow the bastards to trick and scare you into killing each other--much ado about nothing. The "elites" are laughing at all the FOOLS chumps suckers...all the way to the bank.

[mopsius]

"Southern Iran's Portuguese castles"--wow, ain't that got a ring!

Almost quixotic, like castles in Spain or some such thing.

Want an analogy over your heads perhaps:

Romans:roads::Portuguese:sea lanes.

Mahan was an ass from the getgo, by the way.

Bon appetit, mes enfants.

[beancube2008]

If I am Obama, I'll seperate my troops and missions from Bush's. I'll take back my troops until I needed it again. I'll let someone find out good ways for impeachment so my own troops can bravely show up among nations.

[USPrivate1991]

Idk Why people actually thought the president will actually end the wars.

Afghanistan is a key state to the Eurasian continent.

This transcends just the president. he's just a figurehead.

Military Industrial Complex is what coontrols these wars. Democracu doesnt exist in this world. the US is politically unstable

[mopsius]

Let me give you a hint, USPrivet1991.

Any one of three countries could supply the liberators, who after eight years of you fucks, are fighting a war of national liberation--any one of three nations could supply them with one dirt cheap weapons system and you are fucking toast in a matter of months. All of you.

And they have not done it yet and you don't know why and you don't even know what the three countries are.

[USPrivate1991]

Sure I do. Im very aware of this war Sir. And don resort to name calling. I wasnt Justifying tis war sir.

Im just telling the truth. Afghanistan could be a regional solution, but the US in its Imperial thinking, as I have already said, wants its sole hegemony in this part of the world. Afghanistan is key to Eurasia.

And As far as those three countries. Im more worried of Iran supplying the "freedom fighters" moreso than the other 2.

[mopsius]

No, Iran is not one of the three.

Of the three, one will not let the US dominate Afghanistan in any shape or form.

That one might be the surprise to you--it is not the RF.

The RF are laughing their asses off. They could watch this shit for another eight years and still be laughing their asses off.

So the US has already lost.

[USPrivate1991]

Oh really. the Iranians dont have any sphere of influence in this ?

Who would you suggest then ?

China ? India ? Pakistan ? Turkmenistan ?

Really, who do you have i mind ?

[mopsius]

Persai maybe--Iranians?

(1) they can't manufacture the system dirt cheap;

(2) they don't see Afghanistan as an overweening logistics threat

(3) and they, like the RF, can see the point of letting the US bleed there for another eight years. Keeps them off the street at night.

[mopsius]

"TEHRAN, April 15 (Mehr News Agency) -- Iran and Portugal have come to an agreement in the restoration of southern Iran's Portuguese castles.

"The agreement was negotiated by Portuguese Ambassador to Tehran...Manuel da Costa Arsenio and deputy director of Iran's Cultural Heritage, tourism and Handicrafts Organization (CHTHO) Fariborz Dowlatabadi during a session on Tuesday."

Payvand

[mopsius]

Them fucking Portagees get around, don't they?

[mopsius]

Yep, the Iranians are recently fascinated by Portuguese history.

[USPrivate1991]

Portugal ?

You have got to be kidding man. PORTUGAL

You have any more Proof to back this up.

if its Not Iran and Company, then who are the other 2 Countries ?

North Korea and Fucking Azerbaijan

[mopsius]

No, Portugal is only pertinent directly to the question of Iranian indifference about Afhganistan.

[mopsius]

Now indirectly, indirectly.....

[USPrivate1991]

I need Proof. the Portugese ?????

Portugal holds no leverage in world affairs they suck ass

[mopsius]

Anyway--nice talking to you, USPrivate1991.

Glad to see there are some non-dumbasses about.

The bottom line, however, is the US is lunatic to continue in Afghanistan in the present mode--or even any mode at all.

[mopsius]

Spose the US puts a couple of carrier groups in Afghanistan the Iranians might perk up a bit in that direction, who knows.

Swiss Navy got any military attaches in Kabul?

[Longlivepalestine]

Obama = Bush with a tan.

[mopsius]

Suppose Nobel realized a Peace Prize would keep his dynamite business hot for centuries?

Maybe he should have made it the Nobel War Prize.

Then there might be fucking peace.

I mean shit, Winston Churchill, Adolf Hitler, Franklin Roosevelt-all Nobel War Prize Laureates.

[mopsius]

"Some will kill. And some will be killed"

Oh fucking wow-what fucking rhetoric.

Gee, you think so?

And how many fucking innocent civilians will they behead with their fucking cluster bombs?

[USPrivate1991]

Thats what happens in any conflict.

[mopsius]

I mean, at the very least, shouldn't he send only white racists to Afghanistan?

[beancube2008]

I'll let the culprits feel comfortable shine themselves publicly. Probably some of their people will take care of them directly; otherwise, intelligent would be a very good option. More importantly by the way, the US public wants to know truths about 9/11, not the Zionist F-up version that insulted our Constitutions.

[themarycity]

Is that George Bush or Obama? I can't tell through all the BULLSHIT.

[mjnr7777]

I, I, I.......everything is about him and his self perceived greatness. What a joke he is.

[mopsius]

Hey, hey Uncle Obama

how many babies get killed in this drama?

[beancube2008]

No excuse for our own madness. All we have to do is just walk away. Al CIA-da won't walk away in their territory just like Vietnamese some years ago. Both Israel and Al CIA-da were created by the western world, then they're imposed on the Arab nations. Arabs will always use these names to counter US until they blend into each other and into us over here. Our previous govt can't recognize all human intelligence equally.

Follow people who tell truths. Self correction = higher intelligence.

[mopsius]

"Uncle Tom is a pejorative term for a black person who is perceived by others as behaving in a subservient manner to white authority figures, or as seeking ingratiation with them by way of unnecessary accommodation. The term become Uncle Obama in 2009 when American president Barack Obama sent 30,000 new targets to Afghanistan and went to Norway to pick up his Nobel Peace Prize."

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