Yeh, this is the cycle lane. We have to share with other vehicles mate. You have to be bit more aware that these problems occur. The bus driver should've recognised the choke point right enough but there was just enough room i've had worse when they overtake then quickly pull in to a stop directly in front. Cars turning right do this too. Impatient Muppets.
Clearly the cycle lane isn't wide enough so to ride in the centre of it is asking for trouble as you can get 'doored' easily. There's NO onbligation to ride in the cycle lane only in a position on the highway that 'should' be safe for you as a cyclist. Magnatom has the legal right of way here, the bus driver endangers him illegally by overtaking (needlessly) far too close. It is the bus drivers fault for the most part followed by the local highway engineers who designed the lane improperly!
I just realised. All of MAGNATOM's videos are "worked" (fixed) and intended to spark a reaction just to give his videos ratings on Youtube. For everyone reading my message, simply stop replying on here and block this scottish cunt of a cyclist! :OD
The idiot cyclist wasn't in the cycle lane at the time the bus passed him there were cars in the cycle lane so the cyclist had to move out a little but so don't blame the bus driver
How can people even debate this? The cyclist (seeing what was coming up) was well in the lane of the bus before he even started to overtake (0:22). How prejudiced & hateful must someone be to question that the bus driver was in the wrong?
Can someone pls update me on UK legislation? A cycle lane with a dashed line: is it considered to be a lane on it's own or a "protection strip" for cyclists that actually is part of the adjacent lane? There must be a difference to cycle tracks (solid line)
@Dupree94 Yeah you figured it out Mr. Clever. He definitely should have stayed in the cycle lane and collide with that Vauxhaull confusing it with a parking space (or were you trying to be sarcastic?)
@Dupree94 Thanks for the flowers! But to prove your point & to show that I am not just a knob but also a dogmatist: The Vauxhaul AND the bus driver were wrong. Who ever said that cyclists are never in the wrong? Maybe next time you get enraged about a cyclist not adhering to what you think the rules are: Take a look around and count how often motorists behave badly. You will see everything: speeding, RLJ, not giving way, running over stop signs, wrong parking... But that is all acceptable - no?
But the driver did nothing wrong at all, he was in his lane and yours was blocked so he could have slowed but the obvious choice was for you to take action before that happened. Its all well and good loading vids blaming every other driver but you have to look at your own actions first. your not blameless are you. i hope you survive on the roads but anticipating others actions will help you with that goal
Um..the bus didn't go over into the cycle lane? There's also no room for it to go further over to the right..although at the second part where he pulls out, he IS at fault. He should have seen you in his mirror and given you time to pass. Surely you overtaking and being half way past is a signal enough? This is one of the reasons I haven't learnt to drive yet. Bus drivers are crazy.
I've just watched a lot of your videos, I agree with you that some people don't give you enough room... but when you're not using your cycle lane and cycling through the middle of traffic what do you expect?
I'm sick of people cycling in the middle of the road during rush hour/busy times as there's no opportunity to overtake. You seem to expect room from everybody else but not prepared to give tax paying vehicles on the road any at all!
Cyclist lanes are for cyclists my ar$e ... cyclists you do not have to use cycle lanes you have ever right to cycle as defensive as you wish & if that includes using the whole lane ( to avoid parked hazards, potholes, unbridled pets & people), the `I never saw you` is a piss poor excuse for blind ignorant drivers (police white hats & ambulance drivers are included in this) as in my opinion they are the worst & that includes Motorcyclist & taxi drivers. cun7s. First bus your drivers are a joke.
Iam a keen cyclist and use my bike nearly everyday in a very busy city,but one thing i know for sure is that any cyclist with a camera is ALWAYS a cock looking for trouble.PS the bus driver didnt cause you any problems.
Hey, here's an idea: USE YOUR BLOODY BRAKES!!! #1 it's YOUR LANE that's blocked, YOU cut in front of the bus, knowing full well that it's behind you and is traveling faster that it may have trouble stopping in time for you. #2, the bus did signal, however, I'm not sure if it's courteous to yield to a bus in Britain, it's required by law (if safe) in Canada.
you, on the bike. You're the one in the wrong here. plus, if you want to use the roads and have the same rights as someone in a proper vehicle, pay some fucking road tax you spandex clad homosexual. Or, alternatively, get a car and stop kissing boys.
Bycycles (and horses) have a right to use the roads, vehicles do not, but must gain a licence.
Road tax (which hasn't existed since 1937) is a pollution based tax based on the vehicle, so your idea about cyclists not paying for the roads, is just WRONG!
What pays for roads is Council Tax, which cyclists pay..... so in effect any cyclist who doesn't drive is 'subsidising' the damage road vehicles cause.
@Cliffjumper24 no, I don't feel stupid, I stand by my comment. your comment is terrible, and not funny in the slightest. I care very little about your opinion. I can only assume that you're also a homosexual who rides a bike.
I wasn't trying to be funny. Everything written in my comment was a fact.... unlike you I don't assume things I clearly know nothing about.
Obviously from the homosexual joke, you're just a hate spouter.... anyone using such epithets as an insult.... they're not saying anything about the person they deliver it to.... they are ONLY saying something about themselves!
Usually that they're a horrible, shallow, empty, hateful, worthless sack of shit!
I hate busses and I think bus drivers are oxygen theifs along with taxi drivers but I tell u what, I dont hate them half as much as dicks like you on push bikes! What right do you lot have to be on the road? No insurance, tax, compulsory safety checks or training. If u hit my car who is gona foot the bill? It wont be you cause your clearly skint hence why your riding a push bike! If u wana ride your wee bike git on the bastardin pavement and ring your wee bell at folk. Twat!
What the hell is wrong with you? Where the hell else is the bus supposed to go other than next to the cycle lane??? He never went in it, didn't even touch the lines. You are constantly looking for trouble and it's clear you believe having a bullet camera strapped on will protect you. Stop trying to be car when cycling. and start using some common sense and hazard perception when out.
clearly you are out of the cycle lane its more than obvious with there being parked cars there on it so instead of having go at the bus that passed you take it out with the owners of the cars
(cont.) on the other hand, with the zig-zag lane and the car parked in it, it's obvious (in hindsight) that more room needed to be given - if there was no lane at all, for example, the bus positioning would have clearly been negligent. Difficult.
Since nobody is allowed to post on these videos without being critical - why don't you move out much earlier, dominating the following traffic as appropriate? ;-)
I'm not quite sure what to make of this one. If the bus passed that closely on a stretch with a constant cycle lane (i.e. no zig-zags) the worst you could really say is that they were driving to their lane, but the lanes are too narrow. The whole point of a cycle lane, after all, is that traffic can overtake without having to worry about the cyclist, providing they follow the markings (just as traffic can pass a bus in a bus lane, when they're in the normal lane).
Indeed, but I was forced close to the van due to the buses overtake. Normally I am for the very right hand edge of the lane. If I was there on this occasion, I would have made contact with the bus.
I know its close, but in my opinion the problem is more the cycle lane than the bus driver. If you look at how close the bus is to the dividing line of the 2 road lanes, he couldnt exactly move any further to the right or he'd be into oncoming traffic
@Nikon05 Or seeing the pinch point ahead he could have hung back a little until it was safe to pass safely. The onus for a safe overtake is on the overtaker.
@magnatom you are one man on a tiny bicycle, and the bus is giant with lots of people going to work and stuff, i dont think its right to not let them pass then
In my opinion, it was more the bad cycle lane design than the bus driver that caused this. The idea of cycle lanes is that drivers can pass uninterrupted without having to move into the oncoming carriageway like they would when overtaking a car or cyclist on a normal road.
If cyclist and vehicle are put into conflict despite both being within their lanes, then one of the lanes is too narrow.
Although having seen her say 'you didn't signal to me' (LOL!!!), the bus driver is clearly a moron.
@BanditOneUK - Road tax is based on vehicle CO2 emissions. If a car has zero emissions, you pay zero road tax for it. A bike also emits zero CO2, so therefore you do not need to pay road tax for it.
@dodgyman1 so clearly you have no say cos you dont pay i have no time for poeple on peddle bikes or motobikes if you were to get in my way you wouldnt be for long! most think thay own the road anyway as for this so called incident the bus clearly dose not enter the bike lane
@BanditOneUK So by your theory, people who drive a VW Polo Bluemotion, Ford Fiesta 1.6 TDCi, Smart ForTwo 0.8 CDI, Toyota iQ 1.0, Seat Ibiza 1.4 TDI Ecomotive, and a whole load of other cars also have no say? Because they also pay zero road tax.
Don't think there was much in this one to be fair- a bit meh. In the second one, no way as a cyclist as I'd overtake and indicating bus- that is poor cycling IMO.
LOOOL "WOOooOOoaAOoooOAAaa CMON!!" lol you try and hype things up too much, it wasn't even close!! you were so comfortable that you lifted one of your hands off the bike and the bus didnt even cross the cycle lane, wheels didnt even touch the line lol, some maybe most of your vids you are in the right i have to say but you really have bad attitude at same time and this video is just bullshit..
The bus driver was clearly reckless and negligent on the first pass... but seemed to do better on the second attempt. He did not perhaps understand that you had to cycle on the right side of the the "cycle lane" (because it's suicide for a cyclist to ride in the centre of that lane -- i.e., in the door zone). Don't think he saw you when he pulled out.
Bus stayed in his own lane, unlike yourself at times and like you have admitted on filtering episodes the camera makes it look closer than it really is. As for the bus pulling out without indication ,if you notice at around 0.54s he does indicate. Code223
Buses, coaches and trams. Give priority to these vehicles when you can do so safely, especially when they signal to pull away from stops. Look out for people getting off a bus or tram and crossing the road.
@eshock0 The line is academic. HW code states that an overtaking driver should give a cyclist as much space as any other vehicle, and also enough space to avoid any obstacle in their path if they need to. That was neither.
Also, a wide angle lens was used for the footage which exaggerates the distance. The overtake was closer than it looks.
Buses & HGV's account for the lowest number of incidences but the highest number of fatalities. That line doesn't insulate a cyclist against death.
@ron611087 If the driver moved any further to the right he would have been in the way of oncoming traffic. Watch the vid again, the cyclist didn't take appropriate care when moving out from the parked car (he didn't even slow down)
@BigMcGublican The cyclist has no obligation to slow down if he is not endangering anyone ahead of him. He is the leading vehicle & therefore has the line on the road. Moving out from the parked car is his right. Read my response: the HW code rules 213 - a cyclists is entitled avoid an obstacle and a parked vehicle constitutes an obstacle. A the cyclist may move out as far as he needs to avoid opening doors. That's his right.
Read rules 162-169 for the obligations of the overtaking vehicle.
@ron611087 Did he signal when he moved out...No! Did he look round to see the bus before he moved out...No! He is clearly in the wrong! Cyclists have to obey the road rules as do we all. If that was a car doing what he did they would have needed to either stop or check their mirrors before moving out in the path of the bus, this guy did nothing and kept going.
@ron611087 Read rule 63 - When leaving a cycle lane check before pulling out that it is safe to do so and signal your intention clearly to other road users.
Stupid Cycalist! Nice of you posting a video showing your stupidity. You obviously saw the black car in the cycle lane right? Well why didn't stop and check if it was clear to move out of the lane?
Yeah the bus looked close but it was your own fault for moving out of your lane. If a car was driving in a lane and did what you did everyone would agree that it would be clearly wrong. So just cause you are a cycalist you think you can get away with this and disobey road rules?
Plus the bus didn't go over the lines so what is your problem? You say "your right next to the bloody cycle lane" Well doh, of course he is next to it, where is he meant to go on the other side of the road? He's right next to the lane on his right hand side also cause hmmm let me think... busses are wide and need a lot of room. Maybe you should consider that next time!
@Dangerousedinburgh Turns out that this particular bus and driver (this route) it is from Edinburgh. My complaint has been passed on to First Edinburgh.
I was on that bus. You should have been aware of the traffic behind you and on seeing the parked car in front, you should have slowed down and made sure it was safe to move out of the cycle lane. For some reason you chose not to do this. In reality it was your own fault as you were simply not paying attention to the traffic around you.
Of course you were. Where were you sitting? Where was the bus heading (what number)? And most importantly, what is your understanding of the responsibilities of a driver overtaking another vehicle/cyclist?
its not the drivers fault YOUR lane was blocked. you should wait until the other lane is clear or you are given way to before you pull out. Motorists must obey these rules. so should you!
That cycle lane is more dangerous than safe, some stupid drivers seem to think you should stay in them - but look at it - sticks you right in the door zone. I don't particularly recall thinking any London cycle lane was in any way useful (cycle paths are sometimes ok)
@ahs2015 While the black car shout not have parked in the bus lane, the lane is badly designed, since it moves to the left, then back to right, encouraging cyclists to move away from the traffic, then move back into it.
Magnatom did the right thing, he kept his line, and the driver squeezed past, probably expecting him to move away with the lane.
The driver should have slowed down, and waited until it was safe to pass.
@DamoDoublemint what the bus driver did was completely legal, stayed in his lane the entire time.
If the black car hadn't stopped in the cycle lane Mr Magnatom would have had enough space to pull left and slow down safety instead of being forced somewhere he didn't want to be.
@ahs2015 You can drive perfect legally in the HC sense, but still get done for dangerous or careless driving. The important distinction is, to drive with the current conditions and road situation in mind. You see a cyclist up ahead approaching a pinch point, keeping his line, then if you cannot overtake safely you wait behind until it is safe to do so.
Poor bus driver got it wrong. That stupid kid-on cycle lane is so stupid. I would ban them all and all those stupid ASL boxes. Spotted another one of your videos on BBC1 Breakfast again this morning. It was the one when you were using a roundabout and an articulated lorry completely failed to notice you and you had to dodge being splatted.
@metro2002 You probably think that white lane has magic protective properties. It doesn't matter where the cyclist is, if you are going to pass them, leave room. Magnatom kept in a straight line all the way here, the bus driver didn't even make any effort to move out to pass him.
@SMA380 That is precisely the problem - he bloody well should deviate from his line when overtaking other traffic. Drivers who don't are known as complete knobs, and shouldn't have licences at all, much less professional ones.
Lad !!! One of your videos just got used on BBC News breakfast. I'm sure I recognised your voice, it was where a tanker nearly killed you on a roundabout.
bus drivers aretheworst out here even in cars they cut you off anddrive all over the road. towing a trailer the other day i had one hull ass and merge over making me have to move over andbrakehard. (space bar sucks sorry)
I really don't like driving by cyclists there in my lorry. In the bus drivers defence, it is a badly designed area but the bus driver was being a tool. Possibly not understanding the size and mass of his vehicle.
@peterahjorter That'd be even worse, apart from putting a fairly solid obstruction (stationary cars) between the cyclist and the traffic. For one thing, unless there's a kerb between the lane and the road then some would still park there, and for another passengers are much less likely to check for cyclists before opening their doors and don't have a mirror positioned to help them see behind.
@evo2029 Nah, worse idea even if you forget that it gives cyclists a bad image. Pedestrians, poles, the left-side door zone and junctions on the left, enough said.
Yeah, sucky. On-road cycle lanes really don't help cyclists, because it gives motorists the impression that they can ignore you as long as they stay in "their" lane (and hence overtake closer)
@roadbikevalour I'd normally be on the very outside of the lane, but I had to come further to the left because of the bus. I was as left as I dare go!
I feel forced to use the lane there (due to its weaving). It really is a horrible lane. :-(
I meant cars turning left. Doh!
neilb229 1 week ago
Yeh, this is the cycle lane. We have to share with other vehicles mate. You have to be bit more aware that these problems occur. The bus driver should've recognised the choke point right enough but there was just enough room i've had worse when they overtake then quickly pull in to a stop directly in front. Cars turning right do this too. Impatient Muppets.
neilb229 1 week ago
You must go looking for trouble!
mf5455dyna4 3 weeks ago 2
He on road, you in cycle lane. Ug no see why you no like?
Slaeowaffle 4 weeks ago 2
lmao you're a big girl.
RoundBrushSteve 4 weeks ago
What a complete arsehole of a man you really are. You are just a pure nuisance to the people of Glasgow, hope you get what's coming to you soon.
1690Delboy 1 month ago
the bus did signal, you sir are just an arsehole!!!!
MPL501 1 month ago
Clearly the cycle lane isn't wide enough so to ride in the centre of it is asking for trouble as you can get 'doored' easily. There's NO onbligation to ride in the cycle lane only in a position on the highway that 'should' be safe for you as a cyclist. Magnatom has the legal right of way here, the bus driver endangers him illegally by overtaking (needlessly) far too close. It is the bus drivers fault for the most part followed by the local highway engineers who designed the lane improperly!
ynotnilknarf39 2 months ago
better reporting it to forst edinburgh as that was an edinburgh service that runs into glasgow.
strathclydebuses 2 months ago
An idiot out looking for trouble on his bike to upload to YouTube and shout about it.
scruicks 2 months ago
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I just realised. All of MAGNATOM's videos are "worked" (fixed) and intended to spark a reaction just to give his videos ratings on Youtube. For everyone reading my message, simply stop replying on here and block this scottish cunt of a cyclist! :OD
carpdiem88 2 months ago
The bus never entered the cycle lane, you whiney bitch.
BritishJack93 2 months ago
The idiot cyclist wasn't in the cycle lane at the time the bus passed him there were cars in the cycle lane so the cyclist had to move out a little but so don't blame the bus driver
stevenmcardle1 3 months ago
@stevenmcardle1 I was trying really really hard to understand your paint - but I failed. What are you trying to say?
MrPorhtnasim 2 months ago
How can people even debate this? The cyclist (seeing what was coming up) was well in the lane of the bus before he even started to overtake (0:22). How prejudiced & hateful must someone be to question that the bus driver was in the wrong?
Can someone pls update me on UK legislation? A cycle lane with a dashed line: is it considered to be a lane on it's own or a "protection strip" for cyclists that actually is part of the adjacent lane? There must be a difference to cycle tracks (solid line)
MrPorhtnasim 3 months ago
How much room do you want, stupid question cause you want the whole road
MegaBanshee101 3 months ago
As the Bus went by first time you were not in the cycle lane.
Fool.
Dupree94 3 months ago
@Dupree94 Yeah you figured it out Mr. Clever. He definitely should have stayed in the cycle lane and collide with that Vauxhaull confusing it with a parking space (or were you trying to be sarcastic?)
MrPorhtnasim 3 months ago
@MrPorhtnasim Yes. The point being it was The Vauxhall that was in the wrong. But, Cyclists are never wrong are they?
P.S. You're a knob. (Not sarcasm).
Dupree94 3 months ago
@Dupree94 Thanks for the flowers! But to prove your point & to show that I am not just a knob but also a dogmatist: The Vauxhaul AND the bus driver were wrong. Who ever said that cyclists are never in the wrong? Maybe next time you get enraged about a cyclist not adhering to what you think the rules are: Take a look around and count how often motorists behave badly. You will see everything: speeding, RLJ, not giving way, running over stop signs, wrong parking... But that is all acceptable - no?
MrPorhtnasim 3 months ago
buses are the unlike motabikes aloud to use cycle lanes, read your high way code you pratt!
nitemal 3 months ago
Im not on a cyclist downer
But the driver did nothing wrong at all, he was in his lane and yours was blocked so he could have slowed but the obvious choice was for you to take action before that happened. Its all well and good loading vids blaming every other driver but you have to look at your own actions first. your not blameless are you. i hope you survive on the roads but anticipating others actions will help you with that goal
Ride safe
thatmanfromyorkshire 3 months ago
in my opinion the bus driver didn't give adequate space to the cyclist...but the cyclist is a wanker looking for trouble.
sooper2dooper3 4 months ago
Um..the bus didn't go over into the cycle lane? There's also no room for it to go further over to the right..although at the second part where he pulls out, he IS at fault. He should have seen you in his mirror and given you time to pass. Surely you overtaking and being half way past is a signal enough? This is one of the reasons I haven't learnt to drive yet. Bus drivers are crazy.
glitterbunny 4 months ago
un u pay dont dbother clomplaning about your a ipain of my bein a motorcyclist and car driver
garyellrfc 4 months ago
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I've just watched a lot of your videos, I agree with you that some people don't give you enough room... but when you're not using your cycle lane and cycling through the middle of traffic what do you expect?
I'm sick of people cycling in the middle of the road during rush hour/busy times as there's no opportunity to overtake. You seem to expect room from everybody else but not prepared to give tax paying vehicles on the road any at all!
LoopGTI 4 months ago
Cyclist lanes are for cyclists my ar$e ... cyclists you do not have to use cycle lanes you have ever right to cycle as defensive as you wish & if that includes using the whole lane ( to avoid parked hazards, potholes, unbridled pets & people), the `I never saw you` is a piss poor excuse for blind ignorant drivers (police white hats & ambulance drivers are included in this) as in my opinion they are the worst & that includes Motorcyclist & taxi drivers. cun7s. First bus your drivers are a joke.
KlaattUsb 5 months ago
Iam a keen cyclist and use my bike nearly everyday in a very busy city,but one thing i know for sure is that any cyclist with a camera is ALWAYS a cock looking for trouble.PS the bus driver didnt cause you any problems.
AVRILSBEAN 5 months ago
and you lucking for a trouble on the road , find anther road to ride a bike becouse you get hurt not a car !!!!
abcdef18760 5 months ago
bus didin't pass the line his got right !!!
abcdef18760 5 months ago
Just a self-righteous cyclist here.
cptnfalcon20000 5 months ago
Hey, here's an idea: USE YOUR BLOODY BRAKES!!! #1 it's YOUR LANE that's blocked, YOU cut in front of the bus, knowing full well that it's behind you and is traveling faster that it may have trouble stopping in time for you. #2, the bus did signal, however, I'm not sure if it's courteous to yield to a bus in Britain, it's required by law (if safe) in Canada.
cptnfalcon20000 5 months ago
Bus was in its lane and a car was parked in the bike lane. That was the problem
grooteschuur62 5 months ago
you, on the bike. You're the one in the wrong here. plus, if you want to use the roads and have the same rights as someone in a proper vehicle, pay some fucking road tax you spandex clad homosexual. Or, alternatively, get a car and stop kissing boys.
wehatemacs 5 months ago
@wehatemacs You obviously know nothing.
Bycycles (and horses) have a right to use the roads, vehicles do not, but must gain a licence.
Road tax (which hasn't existed since 1937) is a pollution based tax based on the vehicle, so your idea about cyclists not paying for the roads, is just WRONG!
What pays for roads is Council Tax, which cyclists pay..... so in effect any cyclist who doesn't drive is 'subsidising' the damage road vehicles cause.
Also I belive Magnatom HAS got a car
Feel stupid?
Cliffjumper24 5 months ago
@Cliffjumper24 no, I don't feel stupid, I stand by my comment. your comment is terrible, and not funny in the slightest. I care very little about your opinion. I can only assume that you're also a homosexual who rides a bike.
wehatemacs 5 months ago
@wehatemacs Your comment makes you look stupid.
I wasn't trying to be funny. Everything written in my comment was a fact.... unlike you I don't assume things I clearly know nothing about.
Obviously from the homosexual joke, you're just a hate spouter.... anyone using such epithets as an insult.... they're not saying anything about the person they deliver it to.... they are ONLY saying something about themselves!
Usually that they're a horrible, shallow, empty, hateful, worthless sack of shit!
Cliffjumper24 5 months ago
I hate busses and I think bus drivers are oxygen theifs along with taxi drivers but I tell u what, I dont hate them half as much as dicks like you on push bikes! What right do you lot have to be on the road? No insurance, tax, compulsory safety checks or training. If u hit my car who is gona foot the bill? It wont be you cause your clearly skint hence why your riding a push bike! If u wana ride your wee bike git on the bastardin pavement and ring your wee bell at folk. Twat!
mirmaw 6 months ago
What the hell is wrong with you? Where the hell else is the bus supposed to go other than next to the cycle lane??? He never went in it, didn't even touch the lines. You are constantly looking for trouble and it's clear you believe having a bullet camera strapped on will protect you. Stop trying to be car when cycling. and start using some common sense and hazard perception when out.
grahamscott89 6 months ago
clearly you are out of the cycle lane its more than obvious with there being parked cars there on it so instead of having go at the bus that passed you take it out with the owners of the cars
asymington4 6 months ago
(cont.) on the other hand, with the zig-zag lane and the car parked in it, it's obvious (in hindsight) that more room needed to be given - if there was no lane at all, for example, the bus positioning would have clearly been negligent. Difficult.
Since nobody is allowed to post on these videos without being critical - why don't you move out much earlier, dominating the following traffic as appropriate? ;-)
EdinburghFixed 8 months ago
I'm not quite sure what to make of this one. If the bus passed that closely on a stretch with a constant cycle lane (i.e. no zig-zags) the worst you could really say is that they were driving to their lane, but the lanes are too narrow. The whole point of a cycle lane, after all, is that traffic can overtake without having to worry about the cyclist, providing they follow the markings (just as traffic can pass a bus in a bus lane, when they're in the normal lane).
EdinburghFixed 8 months ago
That is the scariest of all your films I've seen. That could have easily killed you. Have you noticed a lot of drivers like to MAKE A POINT?
abermin 8 months ago
@cathkinghost
Indeed, but I was forced close to the van due to the buses overtake. Normally I am for the very right hand edge of the lane. If I was there on this occasion, I would have made contact with the bus.
magnatom 8 months ago
I know its close, but in my opinion the problem is more the cycle lane than the bus driver. If you look at how close the bus is to the dividing line of the 2 road lanes, he couldnt exactly move any further to the right or he'd be into oncoming traffic
Nikon05 8 months ago
@Nikon05 Or seeing the pinch point ahead he could have hung back a little until it was safe to pass safely. The onus for a safe overtake is on the overtaker.
magnatom 8 months ago 2
@magnatom you are one man on a tiny bicycle, and the bus is giant with lots of people going to work and stuff, i dont think its right to not let them pass then
geppegep 2 months ago
In my opinion, it was more the bad cycle lane design than the bus driver that caused this. The idea of cycle lanes is that drivers can pass uninterrupted without having to move into the oncoming carriageway like they would when overtaking a car or cyclist on a normal road.
If cyclist and vehicle are put into conflict despite both being within their lanes, then one of the lanes is too narrow.
Although having seen her say 'you didn't signal to me' (LOL!!!), the bus driver is clearly a moron.
dodgyman1 9 months ago
you can clearly see you have no life YOU dont pay road tax YOU have no say so deal with it
BanditOneUK 9 months ago
@BanditOneUK - Road tax is based on vehicle CO2 emissions. If a car has zero emissions, you pay zero road tax for it. A bike also emits zero CO2, so therefore you do not need to pay road tax for it.
dodgyman1 9 months ago
@dodgyman1 so clearly you have no say cos you dont pay i have no time for poeple on peddle bikes or motobikes if you were to get in my way you wouldnt be for long! most think thay own the road anyway as for this so called incident the bus clearly dose not enter the bike lane
BanditOneUK 9 months ago
@BanditOneUK So by your theory, people who drive a VW Polo Bluemotion, Ford Fiesta 1.6 TDCi, Smart ForTwo 0.8 CDI, Toyota iQ 1.0, Seat Ibiza 1.4 TDI Ecomotive, and a whole load of other cars also have no say? Because they also pay zero road tax.
dodgyman1 7 months ago
Don't think there was much in this one to be fair- a bit meh. In the second one, no way as a cyclist as I'd overtake and indicating bus- that is poor cycling IMO.
flyingscotno1 9 months ago
LOOOL "WOOooOOoaAOoooOAAaa CMON!!" lol you try and hype things up too much, it wasn't even close!! you were so comfortable that you lifted one of your hands off the bike and the bus didnt even cross the cycle lane, wheels didnt even touch the line lol, some maybe most of your vids you are in the right i have to say but you really have bad attitude at same time and this video is just bullshit..
PouriaLDN 9 months ago
The bus driver was clearly reckless and negligent on the first pass... but seemed to do better on the second attempt. He did not perhaps understand that you had to cycle on the right side of the the "cycle lane" (because it's suicide for a cyclist to ride in the centre of that lane -- i.e., in the door zone). Don't think he saw you when he pulled out.
xchopp 9 months ago
Bus stayed in his own lane, unlike yourself at times and like you have admitted on filtering episodes the camera makes it look closer than it really is. As for the bus pulling out without indication ,if you notice at around 0.54s he does indicate. Code223
Buses, coaches and trams. Give priority to these vehicles when you can do so safely, especially when they signal to pull away from stops. Look out for people getting off a bus or tram and crossing the road.
scooboy 9 months ago
Nothing to see here.
eddiebruv 9 months ago
WOW HE WAS SO CLOSE THAT YOU HAD TO TAKE YOUR HAND OFF A RIDE ONE HANDED :O what a dangerous bus drive
skypejacker1 9 months ago
@eshock0 The line is academic. HW code states that an overtaking driver should give a cyclist as much space as any other vehicle, and also enough space to avoid any obstacle in their path if they need to. That was neither.
Also, a wide angle lens was used for the footage which exaggerates the distance. The overtake was closer than it looks.
Buses & HGV's account for the lowest number of incidences but the highest number of fatalities. That line doesn't insulate a cyclist against death.
ron611087 9 months ago
@ron611087 If the driver moved any further to the right he would have been in the way of oncoming traffic. Watch the vid again, the cyclist didn't take appropriate care when moving out from the parked car (he didn't even slow down)
BigMcGublican 9 months ago
@BigMcGublican The cyclist has no obligation to slow down if he is not endangering anyone ahead of him. He is the leading vehicle & therefore has the line on the road. Moving out from the parked car is his right. Read my response: the HW code rules 213 - a cyclists is entitled avoid an obstacle and a parked vehicle constitutes an obstacle. A the cyclist may move out as far as he needs to avoid opening doors. That's his right.
Read rules 162-169 for the obligations of the overtaking vehicle.
ron611087 9 months ago
@ron611087 Did he signal when he moved out...No! Did he look round to see the bus before he moved out...No! He is clearly in the wrong! Cyclists have to obey the road rules as do we all. If that was a car doing what he did they would have needed to either stop or check their mirrors before moving out in the path of the bus, this guy did nothing and kept going.
BigMcGublican 9 months ago
@ron611087 Read rule 63 - When leaving a cycle lane check before pulling out that it is safe to do so and signal your intention clearly to other road users.
BigMcGublican 9 months ago
Stupid Cycalist! Nice of you posting a video showing your stupidity. You obviously saw the black car in the cycle lane right? Well why didn't stop and check if it was clear to move out of the lane?
Yeah the bus looked close but it was your own fault for moving out of your lane. If a car was driving in a lane and did what you did everyone would agree that it would be clearly wrong. So just cause you are a cycalist you think you can get away with this and disobey road rules?
BigMcGublican 9 months ago
Plus the bus didn't go over the lines so what is your problem? You say "your right next to the bloody cycle lane" Well doh, of course he is next to it, where is he meant to go on the other side of the road? He's right next to the lane on his right hand side also cause hmmm let me think... busses are wide and need a lot of room. Maybe you should consider that next time!
BigMcGublican 9 months ago
@eshock0 He was within touching distance. I was not. fine.
magnatom 9 months ago
@Dangerousedinburgh Turns out that this particular bus and driver (this route) it is from Edinburgh. My complaint has been passed on to First Edinburgh.
magnatom 9 months ago
I was on that bus. You should have been aware of the traffic behind you and on seeing the parked car in front, you should have slowed down and made sure it was safe to move out of the cycle lane. For some reason you chose not to do this. In reality it was your own fault as you were simply not paying attention to the traffic around you.
StandFreee1903 9 months ago
@StandFreee1903
Of course you were. Where were you sitting? Where was the bus heading (what number)? And most importantly, what is your understanding of the responsibilities of a driver overtaking another vehicle/cyclist?
magnatom 9 months ago
its not the drivers fault YOUR lane was blocked. you should wait until the other lane is clear or you are given way to before you pull out. Motorists must obey these rules. so should you!
anondriverxyz1 9 months ago
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anondriverxyz1 9 months ago
that's first bus for you
altractors 9 months ago
Is this an ad or a warning on the back of the bus - looks like it says perfect tool, or is it my eyes.
u4987 9 months ago
That cycle lane is more dangerous than safe, some stupid drivers seem to think you should stay in them - but look at it - sticks you right in the door zone. I don't particularly recall thinking any London cycle lane was in any way useful (cycle paths are sometimes ok)
kie7077 9 months ago
there is nothing to complain about, its clearly the fault of the black car on the left 0:25 for stopping in the cycle lane.
In the defense of the bus driver, he had 2 options 1) he slows down and tails you. 2) he moves slightly over to the other lane.
but by look at the footage at 0:26 he couldn't as there is oncoming traffic at the point of overtaking you, thus eliminating option 2.
so option 1, but judging by the rate of the overtake he was traveling too fast to slow down.
so this happened
ahs2015 9 months ago
@ahs2015 While the black car shout not have parked in the bus lane, the lane is badly designed, since it moves to the left, then back to right, encouraging cyclists to move away from the traffic, then move back into it.
Magnatom did the right thing, he kept his line, and the driver squeezed past, probably expecting him to move away with the lane.
The driver should have slowed down, and waited until it was safe to pass.
DamoDoublemint 9 months ago
@DamoDoublemint what the bus driver did was completely legal, stayed in his lane the entire time.
If the black car hadn't stopped in the cycle lane Mr Magnatom would have had enough space to pull left and slow down safety instead of being forced somewhere he didn't want to be.
ahs2015 9 months ago
@ahs2015 You can drive perfect legally in the HC sense, but still get done for dangerous or careless driving. The important distinction is, to drive with the current conditions and road situation in mind. You see a cyclist up ahead approaching a pinch point, keeping his line, then if you cannot overtake safely you wait behind until it is safe to do so.
magnatom 9 months ago
@ahs2015 If he was travelling too fast to slow down...then he was travelling too fast. Simples.
magnatom 9 months ago
I'd be onto his boss about that, maybe a formal reprimand might change his attitude.
PeowPeowPeowLasers 9 months ago
Poor bus driver got it wrong. That stupid kid-on cycle lane is so stupid. I would ban them all and all those stupid ASL boxes. Spotted another one of your videos on BBC1 Breakfast again this morning. It was the one when you were using a roundabout and an articulated lorry completely failed to notice you and you had to dodge being splatted.
robojimpip 9 months ago
Your country is like mine... A human life is hopelessly devalued the moment it mounts a bicycle.
Keep riding man and don't take their shit.
MeatCloud 9 months ago
i think this is normal distance
Ryabinin86 9 months ago
@Ryabinin86 Normal, as in it happens a lot, perhaps. Normal as in acceptable, no.
magnatom 9 months ago
He didn't squeeze you, you were in the lane instead of the cycle lane. (i know, it's a doorzone but the bus driver is not at fault here)
metro2002 9 months ago
@metro2002 You probably think that white lane has magic protective properties. It doesn't matter where the cyclist is, if you are going to pass them, leave room. Magnatom kept in a straight line all the way here, the bus driver didn't even make any effort to move out to pass him.
DamoDoublemint 9 months ago
Mate what the fuck is your problem? He never deviated from his line you complete nob.
SMA380 9 months ago
@SMA380 That is precisely the problem - he bloody well should deviate from his line when overtaking other traffic. Drivers who don't are known as complete knobs, and shouldn't have licences at all, much less professional ones.
Camsplint 9 months ago
whats your problem you idiot he doesnt come into your cycle lane you stupid dick with a camera on your head. lol
reptilemadman1994 9 months ago
Poor pull out as well afterwards :(
MrCasualCyclist 9 months ago
Lad !!! One of your videos just got used on BBC News breakfast. I'm sure I recognised your voice, it was where a tanker nearly killed you on a roundabout.
ridleyorion703a 9 months ago
Have you considered complainting to Straithclyde PTE too?
SPTE subsidise the train and bus companies, and a reminder from them to First may give better results.
Cliffjumper24 9 months ago
It sounded like a woman bus driver, that explains a lot.
KrunchyJD 9 months ago
I'm thinking that marked bike lanes are there for the peds to feel safer from the stupid cyclists. Unfortunately the real cyclists have to suffer.
Ebbonified 9 months ago
whats he on about saying 'you didn't signal to me' its his fault for not checking his mirrors before pulling off from the bus stop
mrsoouter 9 months ago
Dont bother..i wrote to em..standard letter reply that they send to every cyclist..waste of your time mate
pumpkinzer0 9 months ago
bus drivers aretheworst out here even in cars they cut you off anddrive all over the road. towing a trailer the other day i had one hull ass and merge over making me have to move over andbrakehard. (space bar sucks sorry)
fattpieceofcrap 9 months ago
@fattpieceofcrap Must admit most bus drivers I come across are very good. It only takes a few bad apples though.....
magnatom 9 months ago
Nasty bike lane, nasty parked cars, nasty bus. :-(
gadgetmind 9 months ago
I really don't like driving by cyclists there in my lorry. In the bus drivers defence, it is a badly designed area but the bus driver was being a tool. Possibly not understanding the size and mass of his vehicle.
daniel32885 9 months ago
Take that to the council, that incident was caused by both the crappy cycle lane, and crappy bus driver.
m1mbz 9 months ago
The bike lane has cars blocking it, :(
zestron 9 months ago
signal? wtf is he going on about, you had no need too lol
Testedecazzo 9 months ago
Nice to put the paths on the outside of the parked cars, why not have the paths on the inside of the parked cars
peterahjorter 9 months ago
@peterahjorter That'd be even worse, apart from putting a fairly solid obstruction (stationary cars) between the cyclist and the traffic. For one thing, unless there's a kerb between the lane and the road then some would still park there, and for another passengers are much less likely to check for cyclists before opening their doors and don't have a mirror positioned to help them see behind.
TheLabRatt 9 months ago
Fuk it use the path
evo2029 9 months ago
@evo2029 Nah, worse idea even if you forget that it gives cyclists a bad image. Pedestrians, poles, the left-side door zone and junctions on the left, enough said.
Yeah, sucky. On-road cycle lanes really don't help cyclists, because it gives motorists the impression that they can ignore you as long as they stay in "their" lane (and hence overtake closer)
CCmachine 9 months ago
Idiot. I hope they take this seriously.
MrGrumpycyclist 9 months ago
right in the door zone there too :( not a nice place to be, 1 side massive bus other doored !
roadbikevalour 9 months ago
@roadbikevalour I'd normally be on the very outside of the lane, but I had to come further to the left because of the bus. I was as left as I dare go!
I feel forced to use the lane there (due to its weaving). It really is a horrible lane. :-(
magnatom 9 months ago