i have been training muay thai for many years and only just started training BJJ.. glad i did.. i had no idea i could get so mashed .. bjj is awesome..
totally agree...im in the same bout BJJ is amazing, i love Muay Thai but BJ is on a totally different level....although i do miss the stand up striking
Best counter to a triangle choke is a good old fashioned wrestling step over. Up on your toes. Stack him. Walk around the head and step over the body. Then when the hold breaks and your head pops out, you just scramble back to your feet. Basically loosens the hold in the same way these guys are showing, but it give you a lot more torque and doesn't require you to fight your opponents legs with your arms.
your method however can be countered by grabbing behind the heel and transitioning to an armbar. (you grab the heel to help rotate your body to the correct angle to get the armbar)
Even though 2 people gave you a thumbs down, I agree that the step over is the best escape. You don't waste tons of energy trying to out muscle your opponent.
im a white belt in bjj and ive had several ppl do that to me you just put your head to one side and pull them over you, or u can twist your body knocking them on there side, or if they try and walk around you then you just grab there leg, but yes it does somtimes work but i would'nt say its the best counter
Yeah and get choked out or possibly have your arm broken. Picking up and slamming is difficult to do, takes a lot of energy and possibly will leave you with something broken.
It is a cat and mouse game, but generally there are better moves to counter a triangle than trying to pick the guy up and slamming him,newbies and wrestlers may try to dunk someone, if they are in a triangle, but I would say not do it. It is dangerous to slam someone if you are in an armbar or in a triangle.
i saw someone in a street fight once try to use a traingle choke and the guy in the choke used his free arm to nail him in the nuts. It may have been dirty but it worked lol, because after that he released the choke as you can imagine. Then again their is not rules in street fighting so I gues you can considering anything goes.
Another thing to do is to move the head such that you're looking towards the ceiling. This will put pressure on the triangle lock forcing the opponent to open it.
Great move. Only in need of some English lessons. :-p
That's not the point the point is the technique was not displayed properly, the guy on the ground can reach up and pull the head down before the knee is put on the ribs, and he didn't explain why he put the knee in the ribs, was it to prevent the guy from reaching up to pull the head down? and his grip on the guys thigh could still be broken from pulling the arm to the side. This technique could work but it was not displayed properly
i don't really know about that...it looks like the dudes knee is blocking him from getting into position for that armbar + he is tilting down. i dunno maybe he can pull it off.
You would posture up , and take your free arm, put it on the opponents hip , shuck the hip to the side with your trapped arm while simultaneously pulling your head out and toward your trapped arm and pretty much the same thing happens, you push the hip the the mat, this works particularly easy/well for short stocky guys, unfortunately for me, lol im a triangling fool.
Stop saying what he does wrong or yeah but...enjoy the freaking video, the guy is trying to show you an option...of many...geez.ONE OPTION of MANY,so some of you need to relax.
the escape wasn't world class.if i was in the guys position (blue) i would follow through with the choke,it still would work because of the 3 point pressure
Got to tell ya I have like 5 ways to get out of this but vs my instructor right now BJJ Ricky Lundell he got the Triangle on me, I looked at him went for this Smiled with a chester grin him he then went to counter and wala I was out heh.
all the guy has to do to stop him from stacking up on him is straighten his body and contract with his legs.. which would tighten the triangle choke and every time the guy tried to move the choke would move with him
Im 103 kgs. I find the best way to escape the triangle is to stack and roll them to either side, followed by side control. It doesnt work once the triangle has been done properly, just like these guys say, but I think my escape is alot faster than this. Stacking naturally spreads the persons legs apart, reducing the choke obviously. This is good though, i just prefer my escape (i was never taught mine, but people do use it at my club)
against someone good stacking can lead to you being unconscious, or being swept, i would try the knee escape like he is teaching, i am your same weight, it works great
seems simple enough, but any mistake could be capitalized. I guess if you do it perfectly it will be very efective, but as he says, if you don't you can get stuck in an omoplata, arm bar or another triangle.
grande abraco ao meu professor michel porfirio grande buiu ossssssssssssssssss
tatometal 1 year ago
Kenprimo ...is it hard to get a black belt if you have a knee injury?
BrazilianJJKid 1 year ago
who is this black gentleman teaching in this video?
Endure0331 2 years ago 12
This gentleman's name is Michel "Buiu" Porfirio.
kenprimo 2 years ago 4
The guy makes a good point that there really is no escape to a tight triangle. Gotta stop it before it's closed up
schoobs2731 2 years ago 9
i have been training muay thai for many years and only just started training BJJ.. glad i did.. i had no idea i could get so mashed .. bjj is awesome..
etherform66 2 years ago
you've got the right attitude. its easy to avoid bjj for the sake of your ego.
how long you been doing bjj? im a white belt by the way
memento18poker 2 years ago
totally agree...im in the same bout BJJ is amazing, i love Muay Thai but BJ is on a totally different level....although i do miss the stand up striking
Nivo001 2 years ago 2
That is a horribly put together triangle...
redsoxfanatic2007 2 years ago
no offence but if the triangle was on tighter the guy explaining cant talk
Nivo001 2 years ago
Best counter to a triangle choke is a good old fashioned wrestling step over. Up on your toes. Stack him. Walk around the head and step over the body. Then when the hold breaks and your head pops out, you just scramble back to your feet. Basically loosens the hold in the same way these guys are showing, but it give you a lot more torque and doesn't require you to fight your opponents legs with your arms.
jeremyemilio 2 years ago
no see when someone does that you are at risk of a scorpion crunch.
killersquirl94 2 years ago
your method however can be countered by grabbing behind the heel and transitioning to an armbar. (you grab the heel to help rotate your body to the correct angle to get the armbar)
memento18poker 2 years ago
Even though 2 people gave you a thumbs down, I agree that the step over is the best escape. You don't waste tons of energy trying to out muscle your opponent.
GrapplerCam88 2 years ago 2
im a white belt in bjj and ive had several ppl do that to me you just put your head to one side and pull them over you, or u can twist your body knocking them on there side, or if they try and walk around you then you just grab there leg, but yes it does somtimes work but i would'nt say its the best counter
Zxdarkninjax 2 years ago
cork screw works great on traingle chokes
CarmeN964life 2 years ago
Can you say ankle pick...
bananabread119 2 years ago
those are for cheap people learn the technique until you can teach it.
sk8terdude132 2 years ago
or a corndog in the butthole!!! haha kidding...
MxFo08 2 years ago
Just Crank is neck everyone taps
shstoppa 2 years ago
lol or the extremely simple way you can just pick them up and then slam them down hard
windedwalrus12 2 years ago
ricardo arona knows what u mean lol
dan22778112arr1 2 years ago
another way is just lean foward to put all impact on his head
allenchen1 2 years ago
Yeah and get choked out or possibly have your arm broken. Picking up and slamming is difficult to do, takes a lot of energy and possibly will leave you with something broken.
924142707 2 years ago
Not really. You turn to the side have fun trying to pick me up. Or I can hook your leg and you fall to the side.
HumanTarget420 2 years ago
It is a cat and mouse game, but generally there are better moves to counter a triangle than trying to pick the guy up and slamming him,newbies and wrestlers may try to dunk someone, if they are in a triangle, but I would say not do it. It is dangerous to slam someone if you are in an armbar or in a triangle.
924142707 2 years ago 3
Quinton jackson vs Ricardo Arona.
morgall 2 years ago
i saw someone in a street fight once try to use a traingle choke and the guy in the choke used his free arm to nail him in the nuts. It may have been dirty but it worked lol, because after that he released the choke as you can imagine. Then again their is not rules in street fighting so I gues you can considering anything goes.
SteelCity1981 2 years ago
using just jiu jitsu (or any martial art exclusively) in a street fight, rarely works.
wombgrinder 2 years ago
i wouldnt say that
johnnystarandfriends 2 years ago 4
Another thing to do is to move the head such that you're looking towards the ceiling. This will put pressure on the triangle lock forcing the opponent to open it.
Great move. Only in need of some English lessons. :-p
cmart02BR 2 years ago
Maybe all you black belts who are writing comments need to post your video's so we can gain your superior knowledge?
kneeknott 2 years ago 25
That's not the point the point is the technique was not displayed properly, the guy on the ground can reach up and pull the head down before the knee is put on the ribs, and he didn't explain why he put the knee in the ribs, was it to prevent the guy from reaching up to pull the head down? and his grip on the guys thigh could still be broken from pulling the arm to the side. This technique could work but it was not displayed properly
vincespell 2 years ago
@kneeknott you mean keyboard blackbelts
kenprimo 5 months ago 6
what IF the arm is already pulled ?
no escape for that
plus those leg locks are so weak ....
bad video
nicoyanicoya 2 years ago
It's from before the arm is pulled and the leg locks are weak because it's an instructional video.
xdierockx 2 years ago
thanks for show us that but if you know the escape for the kobre please let me know and send me a video please
m1gueloon 3 years ago
at 1:47 the opponent would change his position and would go for an armbar
buignerry 3 years ago 2
damn you are really clever
Miles164 3 years ago 3
What kind of arm bar?
xdierockx 2 years ago
i don't really know about that...it looks like the dudes knee is blocking him from getting into position for that armbar + he is tilting down. i dunno maybe he can pull it off.
lamtartarus 2 years ago
What would you do in No Gi? Just asking
seacrmo 3 years ago
You would posture up , and take your free arm, put it on the opponents hip , shuck the hip to the side with your trapped arm while simultaneously pulling your head out and toward your trapped arm and pretty much the same thing happens, you push the hip the the mat, this works particularly easy/well for short stocky guys, unfortunately for me, lol im a triangling fool.
matwizard 3 years ago
that loooks GAY :D
kingtobias1993 3 years ago
u looks gay
ConquerorEnEmY 3 years ago
A good grappler armbar as soon as you grabbed his pant leggings at the knee
kennycalif 3 years ago 2
excellent demo and good explantion, can you send me a link to your site or club, so i can visit
8006649 3 years ago
Finally those pro bastard are gonna pay when they triagle me...YEA! :D
jeffsst 3 years ago 6
Hey guys , that was great and very well explained, where are you located?
8006649 3 years ago
Thanks for adding a little more to my game....
Great explaination too.
smalldog221 3 years ago
Thanks for this.
bertinotti 3 years ago
Stop saying what he does wrong or yeah but...enjoy the freaking video, the guy is trying to show you an option...of many...geez.ONE OPTION of MANY,so some of you need to relax.
bocaramsmma 3 years ago 7
With any escape all kinds of stuff can go wrong, but if you just sit there you will pass out. You gotta execute this before he gets it tight.
702decatur 3 years ago 3
good move like the accent too
joedevlin0200 3 years ago
I like how they address the issue of being open to the Americana when first posting on the opponents leg.
JRT140 3 years ago
it is good both of them have a go at escaping.
judoisoww 3 years ago
I love this guy's accent so much. I like him in the "guard pass TRIP" video, adorable. LMAO!
RightWingCon81 3 years ago
thanks guys
willsworthy 3 years ago
the escape wasn't world class.if i was in the guys position (blue) i would follow through with the choke,it still would work because of the 3 point pressure
ojay67 3 years ago
Ojay's right it isn't 100 fail proof
YoungClassic01 3 years ago
it'd be hard to keep the pressure going the opposite direction of your leg lock
appleseed101 3 years ago
Very cool ken thanks bud :)
statechamp86 3 years ago
Nice and like that guy ken that is your buddy is he your black belt above you? If so let me know who he is kk thanks
statechamp86 3 years ago
he is not my formal professor, he is a teacher from whom i learned a lot of techniques and worked with a lot, kind of like an adjunct
kenprimo 3 years ago
Got to tell ya I have like 5 ways to get out of this but vs my instructor right now BJJ Ricky Lundell he got the Triangle on me, I looked at him went for this Smiled with a chester grin him he then went to counter and wala I was out heh.
statechamp86 3 years ago
all the guy has to do to stop him from stacking up on him is straighten his body and contract with his legs.. which would tighten the triangle choke and every time the guy tried to move the choke would move with him
born2lose1 3 years ago
Im 103 kgs. I find the best way to escape the triangle is to stack and roll them to either side, followed by side control. It doesnt work once the triangle has been done properly, just like these guys say, but I think my escape is alot faster than this. Stacking naturally spreads the persons legs apart, reducing the choke obviously. This is good though, i just prefer my escape (i was never taught mine, but people do use it at my club)
zenchido 4 years ago
against someone good stacking can lead to you being unconscious, or being swept, i would try the knee escape like he is teaching, i am your same weight, it works great
haggle2007 3 years ago
seems simple enough, but any mistake could be capitalized. I guess if you do it perfectly it will be very efective, but as he says, if you don't you can get stuck in an omoplata, arm bar or another triangle.
dapg01 4 years ago