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  • if evolution is a bundle of lies, every single branch or field of science that has experimental and theoretical data and results supporting evolution, as the best model or explanation of the origen and history of the earth including the tremendous variety of life that originated on our primative and unique planet. Evolution happens right before our eyes, the human species may evolve very slowly, although it has left physical and tangable evidence of its long evolution including its fossils

  • @moonearthrise harmfull bacteria, parasites, insects and other organisms, evolve so fast that natural selection, and random mutation make them quickly inmune to our best antibiotics, forcing us to constantly inovate new medicine becuase the microbes quickly become inmune to the older or traditional ones. This is proof of evolution that we can observe directly as we se how the gens of dna of a paticular strand of bacteria, changes by natural selection (those individual bacteria that by chance

  • @moonearthrise that have a random mutation in there DNA that makes them resistent to the antibiotic they are in contact with, survive, multiply and "evolve". This is survival of the fittest. People that attack evolution, should not beifit from any medical, pharmalogical, treatment, as they have no respect for this branch of science that supports evolution !

  • Evolution- a bundle of Lies? No! This video- a bundle of Lies

  • This is shameful. Even our primate ancestors would be embarrassed by this.

  • I presume he was wearing white coat with big sticker with his name, black glasses, some zips, greasy hair something like that. OK boy whatever you sad i couldn't hear write cos of poor

    sound quality write a paper present it to science community and if it passes I will believe you.Not that I dont understand you completely just there is so much "I know best guy" that I dont have time to debate with everyone

  • If you want to refute this SCIENCE, this very thing that gives you the means to post your thoughts, with charming video and audio qualities, for millions to see, then at least have the balls to live by the rules of the very doctrines you claim supercede it. In the Bible's case, go cure Leprosy (or mildew, translational issue) by killing a bird and spraying blood with the other. Grab a few slaves, and sell off your daughter. Never eat lobster/'unclean' seafood. See how far you get with your book.

  • And to refute this very science is both pointless, and hypocritical. These SAME scientific branches brought us modern medicine, vaccination, clean water, better food and preservation, architectural development, transportation, methods to preserve and share ideas and information, infinitely more capable communication, childbirth that doesn't result in a 33+% mortality rate of mothers, advances in weaponry, and much, much more.

  • "Time" is the only leg? What about genetic testing? Maping the genetic structure of dozens and hundreds of different species? Observed and documented speciation [i.e. MACRO-evolution]? Radiometric dating as a whole? Astronomy? Quantum Mechanics? Geologicaly? Fossil evidence?

    The science is clear. It has weathered the strict and stringest peer review processes. It is based on EVIDENCE. Evolution is being written as "fact and theory" now, just like gravity. To refute this is to refute science.

  • my brain just exploded. thanks

  • Are you actually this ignorant or have you worked at it? Have you actually studied radiometric dating? Seriously?

  • I almost wish there was an afterlife so I could see the look on believers faces when they realise they've been conned by utter drivel.

  • It's not a belief that the world is billions of years old, it's a fact. Belief is what the religious rely on to remain in their happy little self indulgent comfort blanket. The rest of us can accept reality.

  • so according to this video science lies and religion doesn't. i think they got it backwards.

  • stop spreading this false knowledge you fuck.

  • how old is the solar system? , how long did it take for the earth and planets to form?, for how many years was the primitive atmosphere of the earth devoid of oxygen? How long did it take for the continents to drift a part due to continental drift, to thier current position, and how long did it take for the first anaerobic microorganisms to utilize O2? Sorry but this all happened before any religion. The Earth not only all life have have gone through a long process of painstaking evolution

  • So this is the bullshit part of youtube eh? tell me. where is your god when ppl are being killed everyday and dying of stupid shit.? mmkay

  • what the fuck is this bullshit.

  • What useless argument is this, just because they have tested the salt in these eruptions doesn't mean that they are the bench mark of the age of the Earth, just of those volcano. Talk about grasping at straws.

  • As long as you can deny one fact, you can deny the other one! Good for you, dumbass!

  • I... I... I'm absolutley dumbfounded by this, and all the vids on the side. I just don't understand how people can STILL believe that some sort of 'being' created everything. There is undeniable PROOF that evolution is fact, and still happening to this day (and beyond..), science has proven and dispelled the myth that there is or ever has been a 'God'. Humans, thousands of years ago, could not explain their origins, so created an omnipitent being... 500,000 years later, and it's still going on ?

  • @2110Shaggy I know right! it is understandable in 3rd world countries although many Chinese are atheists. But we are smarter than that. For some people accepting that a God created everything, loves them cares for them, sends them to hell if they disobey, and those with good enough faith go to heaven for eternal life... How can they believe that? Do Christians believe that most of the world will go to hell if there was a god and theirs was right? I stopped believing god when i was 14 cmon ;p

  • .......Evolution is an accepted, proven, and observable fact...there is concrete evidence for it. Seriously, why do you people still insist on rejecting reality?

  • @PappeH because then they will have to admit that they've been deceived by power hungry control freaks, and that will damage their ego. At least that's how I see it.

  • That's what it is, to a degree. A devout belief in any deity is just an extension of your own ego. That's why theists get so offended when you doubt what they claim. Also, evolution does NOT = Atheism. Perhaps if people realized that the current and past two Popes accepted evolution over creationism, they would stop trying to spread deceit.

  • @PappeH Absolutely. In no sense whatsoever does the Theory of Evolution preclude the possibility of a creator. It's only desperately misguided creationists that are threatened by that misunderstanding that try to debunk evolution in a vain attempt to reinforce their beleaguered position.  Also, they are really stupid.

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  • SO HERE THE EVOLUTIONISTS HAVE TO ADMIT THAT "HOMO SAPIENS," normal modern-type human beings, WERE RUNNING AROUND AT THE SAME TIME AS THE PITHECANTHROPINES (JAVA MAN) AND WERE HERE BEFORE THE NEANDERTHALS--BOTH OF WHOM WE'RE SUPPOSED TO HAVE EVOLVED FROM!--HA! Isn't that just absolutely RIDICULOUS?!

  • @lllBO0CLANlll How the hell are we supposed to have evolved from 2 seperate species???

    Thats like saying cats evolved from pigs and donkeys.

  • I mean, it takes more faith to believe evolution--it takes more faith to believe this incredible, fictitious, fairy tale of man's origins than it does to accept God's simple, beautiful, inspired explanation in His Word

  • @lllBO0CLANlll Science has fossil evidence and DNA studies that corroborate evolution. Your quasi-Christian cult has nothing but mythology and hot air to back it up. That's why science supports evolution overwhelmingly, and Crrationism is supported mainly by the ignorant with psycho-emotional needs.

  • @lllBO0CLANlll No, it really doesn't, it just takes a bit of logic and reason.

  • @lllBO0CLANlll hmm no, it takes more wit and intelligence to accept reality over simple minded wishful thinking.

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  • I have an got an A when writing an SA about this so i am not a retarded random guy without knowlage. I am christian and i love it. It also makes more sense then atheism. I will stop believe in god when the atheist way actully makes sense. Sorry for bad english.

  • @Nacke3000 as long as you keep that religion to yourself, and stop preaching to those who don't ask to hear about it, that's fine with me. I may not be a Christian, but i think it's important to allow people to practice their religion, but in PRIVATE. If you try to push Christianity into politics, then i have a problem with that. Politics should be secular, as said so in the Constitution + Treaty of Tripoli.

  • @Casshyr Bravo good sir. I have knighted you to Sir Epicalot.

  • This from Wikipedia: Due to the long half-life, the technique is most applicable for dating minerals and rocks more than 100,000 years old. For shorter timescales, it is likely that not enough Argon 40 will have had time to accumulate in order to be accurately measurable.

  • Bahahahaha.....flimsy religeon, based on stories.

  • Haha, it's so funny that a Darweinie wants to reply to me. Go Darwine somewhere else, I do NOT care to hear your lies.

  • @BarbieBoy1997 I'm not going to tell you anything, I simply want to know the justification for your belief. I'm going to assume that you're a Christian, and are thus obligated under 1 Peter 3:15. "But in your hearts revere Christ as Lord. Always be prepared to give an answer to everyone who asks you to give the reason for the hope that you have. But do this with gentleness and respect." Your religion requires that you demonstrate your position when asked.

  • @Powerman3772 Assume whatever you want, i have no bond to you. Stop rubbing my belly, i'm not your genie. You americans have such a narrow view of possibilities.

  • @BarbieBoy1997 First off, I'm actually an Australian. Second, I don't assume anything. It is observably your obligation to demonstrate your beliefs. While I will not press you to do so, know that this is in violation of your religious tenets. If you have no bond to me, which you don't, then you need only stop replying for me to stop messaging back. If you make statements or assertions in a public forum, be prepared to have them critically analyzed and argued.

  • @Powerman3772 yawn, g'nyt mate.

  • @BarbieBoy1997 *sigh* Cultural insensitivity is really the best you can do to support your case? I would vehemently recommend, for the sake of those who read your comments if not for yourself, that you adopt more rational argumentative methods and learn the nature of reasoned evidence and its importance in coherent discussion. You can blow me off all you want by this comment, that doesn't change the facts of the matter.

  • @Powerman3772 what are you talking about. I never should have watched another video, now i'll never get to sleep. it's night here, and i need to sleep, how does that offend you. rack off, seriously!

  • it's so sad that Darweinies are so rude. We do not care what you ape worshipers have to say, you are deceived, and have no true knowledge. None of you were alive 4.8 billion years ago, you have a THEORY. God was here before time. He left plenty of evidence, but you will look RIGHT at it and NOT see it. Because you are BLIND.

  • @BarbieBoy1997 You don't get to tell us what we know (not believe, KNOW) is false just because we weren't there to see it. You weren't there when your god supposedly made the universe, but that's not the reason your belief is unjustified.

    If you're just going to throw around the term "worshiper" like that then you really don't understand what it means. "The feeling or expression of adoration or reverence to a deity" isn't how rationalists think about apes. There are no "ape temples" or anything.

  • @Powerman3772 Nope, you are wrong.

  • @BarbieBoy1997 So you have knowledge of an "ape temple" or a prayer said to apes or any other such lunacy?

    If you're simply going to assert that without demonstrable justification, then you have no business being taken seriously in a genuine discussion.

    And something else I didn't get to cover in my previous comment: provide an every day example of this evidence you're referring to for me to consider, blanket assertions don't cut it.

  • @Powerman3772 You are simply wrong. No need to get defensive. Just admit it and quit it.

  • lets all go home and die in our beds

  • soo thank you for showing us evolution is right? You just say it's wrong, without stating any proof and if anything you show more about how it works then how it doesn't. Look I know carbon dating can have it's flaws, but 1: it's really the only thing we can use and 2: hit or miss a few hundred years I can buy, a few million? No. stop being stupid.

  • If you prove the earth is young then you prove evolution wrong.

    If you prove there was no global flood you prove the bible wrong.

    Anyone have a Geology book handy?

  • Assuming you're Christian.. Your leaders, the pope, arch bishops, etc.. they ALL say that evolution is true and should be accepted at this point. Even the heads of your faith, and the man you believe can directly speak with god (the pope) says that this should be accepted. And he's right, the debate is over, and has been over for decades. Evolution is fact.

  • google search 'How Accurate is K-Ar Dating?'

    A sample of ten year old rock was dated to 350,000 years.

  • google search 'How Accurate is K-Ar Dating?'

    A sample of ten year old rock was dated to 350,000 years.

    Quotes found.

    The varying mineral composition of the myriads of types of rocks negates the accuracy of the standard potassium-argon dating method.

    The potassium-argon method should not be used to calculate the ages of rocks.

    The principal difficulty with the potassium-argon method lies in the fact that argon is a gas and can escape from the crystals of minerals in which it accumulates

  • google search 'How Accurate is K-Ar Dating?'

    A sample of ten year old rock was dated to 350,000 years.

    Quotes found.

    The varying mineral composition of the myriads of types of rocks negates the accuracy of the standard potassium-argon dating method.

    The potassium-argon method should not be used to calculate the ages of rocks.

    The principal difficulty with the potassium-argon method lies in the fact that argon is a gas and can escape from the crystals of minerals in which it accumulates

  • Please be a troll.

  • Cool story. For the sake of argument let's say that the theory of evolution is completely false, it would still not justify your beliefs about creation or that your particular God is real. Many religious folks think that debunking the theory of evolution justifies their own beliefs. But without proper and verifiable evidence for your claims, your idea of God is still nothing but a hypothesis.

  • Why not to become an islam slave, or be part of the vatican etc.: The World Hates the Disciples

    John 16:1-3

    New International Version (NIV)

    1 “All this I have told you so that you will not fall away. 2 They will put you out of the synagogue; in fact, the time is coming when anyone who kills you will think they are offering a service to God. 3 They will do such things because they have not known the Father or me.

  • 1 Corinthians 1:18-21

  • @fgon & @Scyntist

    18 For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God. 19 For it is written: “I will destroy the wisdom of the wise; the intelligence of the intelligent I will frustrate.”

  • @fgon & @Scyntist

    20 Where is the wise person? Where is the teacher of the law? Where is the philosopher of this age? Has not God made foolish the wisdom of the world? 21 For since in the wisdom of God the world through its wisdom did not know him, God was pleased through the foolishness of what was preached to save those who believe.

  • You can't wipe out the "belief" that the world is 4 billion years old, because it's a fact...Of course some things may be dated wrong, mistakes are made. But the amount of evidence showing the age of the world is overwhelming and cannot be ignored.

  • K common geological knowledge is that igneous rock (rock that come from volcanoes) is the youngest of all rock. You need to look into the rock cycle and how that works

  • You should first look up what the halflife of that method is and THEN look on what timescale here tried to be used at....

  • You cannot wipe out the time of the universe as it is now so exact with modern science as to the exact date is 13.72 million years old. Evolution isn't the lie. God and Jesus Christ are the lie. Myths all of them. Why not close your bible for a while and open your mind then you can really love the planet we live on. There is no purpose to this as there is no purpose to a mountain. we are no more special than the apes we have come from. Enjoy. God only exists in your head.

  • Youtube should add a bomb 'icon' that, if the negatives occupy more than the 85%, it will pop up. If more than 1000 people push it, the video gets deleted :D

  • I believe in Evolution because somethings go wrong along the way and you are still a underdeveloped monkey with a computer..... There you go. Living proof!

  • Evolution isnt a theory, it's a FACT. Get used to it you trolling, bible fucking, weak willed fuck. I am sick or you people 'Oh, evelution is bullshit 'cos the bible says it is,'

    'Oh, I am a feeble minded sheep in a flock of even more feeble minded sheep, I dont believe in free will or common sense, and I worship and devote my life to my imagionary friend.'

    theres no such thing as miracles or magic or the devil, so stop wasting your lives and other peoples time. Nuff said.

  • BYE BYE HEADPHONES

  • Relying on only one radiological method for dating is always going to be suspect, even if the readings are correct. It takes many different measurements of different kinds of radioactive substances plus the observed estimation of sedimentary layers to hone in on the correct measurement. It's like trying to accurately weigh something. You have to use multiple scales to weed out any errors in measurement.

  • Time does not exist. It was invented by mankind. What we observe is change in the Universe.

  • so what's getting carbon dating wrong got to do with evolution creationists are such deceivers

  • @AztlanOz "creationists are such deceivers"

    You nailed it right there. And they have this 'commandment from their god' not to bear false witness.

  • Religion - a bundle of lies! This should be the title of the video. Do u really like worshiping an invisible man?

  • So, instead of just assuming that this video lacks some credibility, I would ask first for your research sources, tshoebat. Is it possible that what was meant was that the dated material from the eruptions had formed many millenia prior to the actual eruption and its expulsion, how is carbon dating "losing its touch", and are you sure time is the only supporting evidence evolution uses?

  • Big deal U know a little about dating techniques. I think that insight actually hamstrings you because you're ignoring all the other evidence. Creationists have nothing in the way of proof. I understand that religion is tradition. Tradition I don't have a problem with. Santa Claus is tradition. But when these morons try imposing their nonsense religion on the rest of us....that's where I have a problem. You wanna believe in a bunch of man made nonsense, fine. Just keep it to yourself.

  • If you whipe out the belief that the world is millions of years old you whipe out the theory of evolution. LOL!!!!!!!!

    Dislike.

  • Please please please do your research. god bless you

  • I am surprised that you know how to upload a video on You Tube as this is not mentioned in the Bible...

  • @fgon73 Youtube is one word, you idiot.

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  • STRAWMAN

  • I have a feeling that the guy in the video... doesn't know what he's talking about...

    A 30 second intro and then a 40 second outro? The entire video is 3 minutes.

    He stalls more time by repeating what he doesn't believe in and then he talks about salt in one place.

  • @Travelsbyshfflc Typically those who disagree with the Theory of Evolution often do not have a single shred of biological understanding—let alone how the scientific method works.

  • @Scyntist The only thing the creationist has to say about evolution is the "missing steps from one life form to another". The fossil is the exception, the rarity to life as most life has been consumed by another and dropped off as brownies.

  • @Scyntist I’ve also noticed that almost 100% of the time people who argue against Evolution argue from a religious standpoint, not scientific. They try to disprove a whole theory by spouting supposedly contrary scientific “facts”; I doubt any of these narrow minded asses have every studied chemistry/physics etc. Also the vid maker claims evolutions only leg to stand on is time, when mutation is the real cornerstone. It can happen in a few gwenerations and has been observed countless times.

  • @Scyntist Bro, My mom has a degree in Biology and Chemistry. She says it's complete bullshit. Remember, in the end the rights will be wrongs, and the wrongs will be rights.

  • another popular misconception. we did not evolve from chimps. we have a common ancestor to them.

  • The reason the salt dates this old is because the salt was not created on the eruption day, the salt has been around for thousands, maybe even millions of years. Magma is very old.

  • you DO realize that any dated components from those sites existed BEFORE contemporary eruptions right?

    It's like saying rainwater from yesterday is only a day old when in actuality you hadn't factored in the processes of evaporation and condensation (yes, i know it's an elementary example but an example nonetheless :L)

  • Religion is still trying very hard to keep people stupid. In a lot of ways it's being successful. Hence this video.

  • The salt from all of those places existed BEFORE the eruption.

  • American under-education at its worst. How very sad.

  • wow ... really ? Some of you still view evolution as a lie ? What do you suggest instead ... the 7 day thing ? ....

    im ... speechless lol , im suprised ppl like that would even have the basic mental abilities to operate a computer :/ ... are ppl still argueing about this ?? this arguments never gonna be over ...Whats sad is how ppl like you dont realise that most of us wont even awcknowledge your opinion .... we just view ppl like you as ... borderline retards i guess.they just dont tell u.

  • I found a furball in my navel - its like possibly two days old. I think I will put it in a jar and call it god - well why not? L Ron Hubbard wrote an excellent sci-fi story and - years after his death there are still grownup human beings calling it a religion - only in America - AHAHAHAHAAAAAAAA

  • There was a mudslide 3 weeks ago. I dated the mud. It was 1023 years old. Go figure.

  • you can't just wipe out the belief that the earth is billions of years old because its not a belief its a fact. furthermore you should't use carbon dating you should use radioactive decay

  • time is not the only link, there are bones found of earlier human species

  • From Creation to today is approximately 6000 years! Even if the earth is older life has only been here 6000 years from Adam to today. Do the math!

    I will never believe this billions of years nonsense nor this talk of aliens.

    The only true aliens are christians for we are not of this world, but of the Kingdom of GOD!

  • @lewiss1100 unfortunately for you, there is scientific evidence that proves you wrong.

    You see, even if you dont believe in reality (and only in fantasy), reality is real.

  • @MagnusNyborg The supernatural is far more real than anything you see in nature.

    For the supernatural is eternal. God's word is eternal. We are eternal beings. The only question is where will you spend that eternity heaven or hell. Today is the day of salvation! Choose this day whom you will serve!

  • @lewiss1100 "The supernatural is far more real than anything you see in nature."

    Delusion is real... It can be treated. But one would have to realise one is deluded before the treatment can begin. And the key sign for delusion is claims that do not match with reality. I pity you...

  • @MagnusNyborg I pity you!

    I use to be like the world, but Praise God I saw the Light & Truth!

    Truth is everyone is born spiritually blind & dead. It's only through the rebirth that we become new creatures & can clearly see God's truth. The blinders are taken off.

    I pray you & everyone in this world would come to see the Truth & recieve eternal life through Jesus!

    It's so simple a child can do it. All those who call on the name of the Lord shall be saved!

  • @lewiss1100 "I use to be like the world, ..."

    How can anyone be like the world ? ROFL.

    I hope someday you get treatment.

  • @MagnusNyborg I mean worldly. Constantly living in sin & not following after Jesus!

    Look around you sin is everywhere in this world. On TV, computers, billboards, in schools, government.

    You can't even go down the road without hearing some blasting rock music which is nothing but devils music.

    Viloence, abortions, homosexuals on TV, gay pride parades.

    Truly we are living in the last days, just as the days of Noah were then sudden destruction came.

    Tribulation is soon at hand REPENT!

  • @lewiss1100 ... and now you are a vegetable, constantly living in fantasy land. I dont find that an upgrade. Please seek treatment...

  • @MagnusNyborg Not hardly!

    I'm finally FREE! Whom the Son, Jesus sets free is Free Indeed!

    Free to Praise Him, Free to live Forever with my Savior.

    Glory to GOD!

    Choose Jesus today & know what its like to truly be alive & recieve all God's promises.

    Now I'm the head & not the tail. I'm a Child of the King!

    I'm promised a mansion in heaven & all God's blessings He has in store for all His saints!

    Why would anyone want to deny God & recieve eternal damnation & hell fire for eternity?

    WHY?!

  • @lewiss1100 "WHY?! "

    Why would anyone want to be sane? Why would anyone want to live in reality?

    You are wasting your only known life, in order to live in a fantasy. Stop being a waste-product of humanity. You know, an easy way to live an immoral life is to follow the bible. The bible sanctions slavery, rape, murder, genocide, child sacrifice. Clearly the make of men like yourself, only written down several thousand years ago. You are deluded and need help.

  • @MagnusNyborg How am I wasting my life?

    If I'm wrong & there is no God then I will have lived a good life & simply be dead.

    But, I know I'm right God is real & Heaven is my home.

    What of those unbelivers? If your wrong & God does exist & you miss heaven & eternal life only hell awaits.

    Yes the bible speaks of rape, slavery, murder, etc. How is that different than the world in which we live today?

    Those stories are for examples for us today, that we may learn from the past & not repeat.

  • @lewiss1100 Pascals Wager. What if you are wrong, and allah is the true god? What will happen to you then?

    What if you are wrong, and Zeus is the true god? What will happen to you then?

    How many gods have you dismissed?

    If I have to choose between believeing what clearly delusional people say, then i choose to think for myself along with others who also use their brains properly. I dismiss one more god than you do, because people like YOU are not reliable.

  • @MagnusNyborg Think about it. God knows everything. He said in the bible I know not of any other God's. God never lies, if there were other Gods He would have told us.

    Zeus, Allah, Buddah, Jupiter, Hades, these are all man-made gods. Idols built by the hands of men. Who having eyes cannot see, having legs cannot walk.

    But there is One who was not created by the hands of man, for He alone is our Creator, The One true living God.

    He Created Adam & Eve & all living things.

  • @lewiss1100 actually i suspect you are the one who needs to think about it.

    The only 'evidence' for god is the delusional claims of people like you. Why delusional? Because your claims do not align with reality. I know you believe what you believe, but there is not a shred of reson within it. That is a clear sign of delusion.

  • @MagnusNyborg Romans 1:20 For the invisible things of Him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power & Godhead; so that they are without excuse.

    Continue reading through verse 32.

    We are without excuse of judgment day.

  • @lewiss1100 You are without excuse now.

  • @lewiss1100 "Yes the bible speaks of rape, slavery, murder, etc. How is that different than the world in which we live today?"

    How is it ok for the bible (god) to support salvery? If you support the bible, and the bible supports god, then i place the responsibility directly on YOU. Are you not ashamed to support slavery? What kind of immoral asshat are you??

  • @MagnusNyborg God said we are not slaves, but servants. I gladly serve the Most High God daily.

    Jesus washed the disciples feet, He died for us that we might live.

    Think about it, the God who created all things, became a man & the servant of men that we might be free from sin & death.

    That's the God I serve, full of love & Grace & Mercy.

  • @lewiss1100 God said:

    "However, you may purchase male or female slaves from among the foreigners who live among you. You may also purchase the children of such resident foreigners, including those who have been born in your land. You may treat them as your property, passing them on to your children as a permanent inheritance. You may treat your slaves like this, but the people of Israel, your relatives, must never be treated this way. (Leviticus 25:44-46 NLT)"

  • @MagnusNyborg Times were different in the Old Testament. God choose Israel at that time to be His Holy People.

    Now in the New Testament Jesus includes Gentiles also to be saved. For Jesus died for the sins of the whole world.

    A certain Gentile woman came up to Jesus & asked for a healing. Jesus told her I have not come to give blessings to the dogs, meaning Gentiles at that time.

    She said even the dogs recieve crumbs from their masters table.

    Because of her faith Jesus performed a miracle.

  • @lewiss1100 god is claimed to be unchanging. I dont believe he exists other than in the mind of delusional people like you.

    But if he is unchanging, then clearly your statement is a lie. And lying is a deadly sin according to the commandments in your bible. So now, either you are doomed to hell, or you are simply wrong and delusional.

  • @MagnusNyborg First of all much of the bible is meant for the Jewish race, not for the Gentiles. We are not to do all the Feasts or do we need to be circumcised as the Jews.

    Yes, God is the same, yesterday, today, & Forever.

    The Jews did have slaves, but that is because they were disobedient to God. God told them to utterly destroy all their enemies, instead they spared many & had to live with their mistakes.

  • @lewiss1100 i still hold you responsible for your beliefs. You are the immoral asshat who is spreading this nonsense.

    Because somewhere along the line, god must have changed. If he existed ofc, and there is reasonable doubt he doesnt really exist. A manmade concept believed by people without enough rational senses.

    But you justifying this, makes you responsible. I hold you to contempt.

  • @MagnusNyborg No, God holds us responsible for our beliefs & actions. It is God alone every man must hold an account to.

    O Ye of little Faith.

    What will you do on judgment day, when your standing face to face with God your Creator?

    What will be your excuse?

    What will you give in exchange for your soul?

    God will remind of you of me & others He has placed in your path to tell you of His truth & He will remind you on that day of all the times you rejected Him!

    Only hell awaits the unsaved!

  • @lewiss1100 No, I hold YOU responsible. YOU personally are repsonsible for your beliefs and what comes from them.

    The only difference is that i am not going to make you pay for an eternity for your misbehaviour. Im just going to tell you that i find you despicable and delusional.

  • @lewiss1100 "Only hell awaits the unsaved!" Hell? That nice place in Norway? Sign me up.

  • @TomFynn Not hardly. The place where the fire is never quenched & the worm never dies. Total seperation from God. Constant pain & torture. Hell is very real. Repent now of all your sins while there is still time.

    Heaven awaits all those who choose Jesus as Lord & Savior!

  • @lewiss1100 Your doctor called. You forgot to take your meds. Again.

  • @TomFynn Not so I took my GOS-PILL this morning from Dr. Jesus & I'm feeling fine.

    Glory to God!

    PRAISE JESUS!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @lewiss1100 That's exactly why your doctor called.

  • @MagnusNyborg That didn't mean no one beside Jews were saved in the Old Testament, but most of the world did serve false gods & wound up in hell.

    Because of Abrahams faith, God choose to work with the Jewish population as His chosen people. However some Gentiles like Ruth were also saved for believing in the One true God.

  • @lewiss1100 i hold YOU responsible for YOUR beliefs and that means i hold YOU responsible for the bible's monstrocities. YOU are despicable.

  • @lewiss1100 god said:

    "When a man sells his daughter as a slave, she will not be freed at the end of six years as the men are. If she does not please the man who bought her, he may allow her to be bought back again. But he is not allowed to sell her to foreigners, since he is the one who broke the contract with her. And if the slave girl's owner arranges for her to marry his son, he may no longer treat her as a slave girl, but he must treat her as his daughter. "...

  • @lewiss1100 cont:

    "...If he himself marries her and then takes another wife, he may not reduce her food or clothing or fail to sleep with her as his wife. If he fails in any of these three ways, she may leave as a free woman without making any payment. (Exodus 21:7-11 NLT)"

    I hold YOU responsible for this.

  • @lewiss1100 So, paedophiles, rapists and murderers can be saved and live in heaven for eternity if they accept jesus, whereas the victims of these people who may reject god because of the horrible things that have happened to them, they'll go to hell will they? So, what you're saying is, god rewards the guilty as long as they love him and punishes the innocent. Pretty fucked up god you have there pal, don't even try to argue because THIS IS WHAT YOUR EVIL POISONED FAITH TEACHES.

  • @Thinchap That's exactly right for we are not saved by works but by grace of God.

    God is faithful & just to forgive us of our sins. For all have sinned & come short of the Glory of God. It's only through the blood of Jesus that we are saved. No good or bad deeds will get us or keep us from heaven, but it through the grace of God are we saved! Least any man should boast.

    However those saved who are not fully obedient shall barely make it into heaven & not recieve any rewards.

  • @lewiss1100 No. You're wrong, and so is everything about the brainwashing you believe. You've just said that if a 4 year old child is raped and murdered (Which does happen), they will go to hell for eternity because they are born as a sinner and they're too young to understand and accept god, whereas the person who raped and murdered that child could still get in to heaven by repenting and accepting jesus. They are the rules of your religion. Take a step back and ask yourself if that's right.

  • @Thinchap Babies & young children are safe, not saved from hell.

    Until a person reaches the age of accountability knowing right from wrong, they are under God's grace. So all aborted children & those who die young are instantly taken to heaven. But, those who do reject God's saving Grace are bound for hell.

    So, if that murder asks forgiveness & accepts Jesus into his heart then yes that person also shall enter heaven.

  • @Thinchap God is gracious & merciful. Those young babies that can't think for themselves to know they are in need of a Savior are spared from hell & thus safe. However everyone who does know right from wrong & doesn't repent shall be cast into hell

  • @lewiss1100 Ok, so now god collects the spirits of aborted foetus's? But they have no personality, as personality is only built and grown through experience. Are you saying god transports them to heaven as fully formed adults and the personalities they would have had? What age would they be? and which stage of personality would god decide to change them into? They might have been a different person at 20 than they would have been by the time they reached old age so who are they in heaven?

  • @lewiss1100 the problem with your argument is that you just don't know, you have to make up what you think is the truth in order to justify it to yourself so you don't have to face the fact that are are an ignorant fool who is willingly self-deceiving themselves in order to desperately cling to a 2000 year old piece of propaganda designed to keep the sheep under control. THINK FOR YOURSELF. I pity you. Ultimately you only believe because you are a coward who is scared of the hell threat.

  • @Thinchap Yes, I fear hell as all should, but more than that I love God & desire to please My Heavenly Father.

    Some have been to heaven & returned to tell about it.

    That's how I know about babies in heaven. God Himself works with their spirits teaches them what He has done on the cross & helps them to mature.

    As far as age goes, there is no time in heaven just one eternal day.

    I believe everyone will look around 30 years old as Jesus did when He died.

  • @lewiss1100 Hey lewie, just one glance upward on a cloudless night will take your "6000 years old" nonsense to the garbage heap. The majority of light specks up there are far more distant for the time it would take for the light to reach here.

    Stop bearing false witless.

  • @ISamuelII My God can do all things. He exist outside time & space. Just as Adam & Eve appeared fully grown when they were first created, so too can God make the stars appear older than the actually are.

    For what good would the stars be for signs & seasons, if we could not see their light for millions of years?

    Think about that!

  • @lewiss1100 So you acknowledge the stars are older than the claimed Universe from your plagiarizers fraud book, good start sputnik.