You say it's a "free copy of Back Pain Secrets at the link" but you are gonna refund me if it doesn't work. So how do you refund free money ? This is more intriguing than your technique...
@BulletCowboy The refund if for Self Adjusting Technique. I don't think it's right for people to pay for something that doesn't help them. While most people will be able to adjust themselves nothing works for everyone.
Your neck massage/adjustment is helping me so very much.
I have Migraine's caused by this tight muscle and have for years pulled down on it. Pushing across is making a HUGE difference. Don't listen to the naysayers. You must really be helping people ; you certainly are helping me :)
I'm glad that massage helped. The most common cause of migraines is a deficiency of magnesium. Take it separately from calcium as they compete for the same receptor sites, and taken at night it will help you sleep. Three or four grams is a good dose, but beware; too much can give you diarrhea.
And yes, I don't listen the naysayers. Unfortunately, the world is full of them. It's true, I'm just here to try and help, those people are just in too much pain to be helped. Thanks.
(You Quoted) "At least, until I was able to properly adjust them with my gentle techniques and some nutritional support. " My friend, what are you typically adjusting? An adjustment is specific or it's nothing. An adjustment is specific and should be done by a DOCTOR of Chiropractic alone!
Palmer was treated much worse than I am being treated. The doctors of the time were wrong about Palmer, it could be that there is more to this than you understand, just like the doctors back then.
Thanks KaosKaptainKenta. I guess this technique is scarry for some people. Funny, most of them are chiropractic students, chiropractors are cool with it for the most part.
You need to get through Chiro school and national boards or you will get yourself in trouble injuring another body or worse. We learn how to diagnose and when not to adjust, that is the big picture of Chiropractic. You are an embarrassement to my profession.
I always get this from chiropractors. Please try to understand: There is no thrust! I have taught this technique to chiropractors and doctors and everyone of them says it's safe.
I also don't understand why chiros pick on me, there are many videos showing how to do a lumbar roll which crippled a client of mine! At least, until I was able to properly adjust them with my gentle techniques and some nutritional support.
There is a school of chiropractic thought that says illness is related to joint misalignment. Their proof is in the nerve connections.
I don't completely agree with this thinking, but I have seen tough cases go much more smoothly after certain joints are stabilized. You can't through the whole idea out if you've been around for awhile. There is something to be said for clinical experience.
If you knew anything about chiropractic, you would know that chiropractor's don't force adjustments and that the adjustment (regardless or who does it) only happens in paraphysiological joint space (end range). I guess if the D.C.'s had your knowledge and experise they would be as good as you. By the way, I'm waiting for you to get out the Black and Decker drill and show us how to work on our own teeth. Laypersons doing spinal manipulation is dangerous, that is why there are Doctors.
From Ask The Doctor: "The paraphysiological range of motion is the small amount of additional movement that may be passively forced beyond the maximal passive range of motion."
Force. A DC says this. A chiropractic thrust involves a LOT of force. I am pretty good at this method, but never use it as it ALWAYS causes some soft tissue damage. That's why endorphines are released and people say it feels good.
Who are you? You're not even a doctor. If doctors 50 years in the field aren't teaching people how to adjust themselves, why would people buy a book from you? Adjusting is a skill, an art, that is built up over years of experience. Not only that, but the hardest part of it is knowing when not to adjust. When its more serious and refer, and when its getting better, to leave it alone. Thats what you're paying for, not just some cracking sound. What you're doing is very unethical if not illegal.
But they are! Right here on youtube, plenty of chiropractors teaching the lumbar roll for example. I've helped many clients who suffered injury from that maneuver. And, THERE IS NO THRUST! Which means, no way to hurt yourself.
I have over 100 testimonials from people who found back pain relief with these techniques, and a refund rate less than 1 percent while the industry norm is 5 - 10. That tells me it's working a lot more than not.
I appreciate the figure of speech, but still find it unkind.
And, I still say I'm not attacking. I have my experience and clients of mine have theirs. I'm only pointing these out. If by defending you mean my post about other professionals using non-thrusting techniques, this is to point out that there are people with much more training than you or I who acknowledge these method of adjusting.
See the previous comment. I get what you mean by the polarity, and I adjust to the situation. It's just that I don't usually find it necessary to do a thrust, and when I do I don't use half of what I see most chiropractors using. And, I don't adjust for money anymore. Not because I don't need the money, but because I don't want to, personal feelings about my gifts from God. Now my mission is to offer a possibility for proactive, pain free and low cost healing.
Dude, you're caught in an "attack-defend" spin cycle. My advice- lose the words and just move and heal the body. You're good at it. Just shut-up. You'll be much happier, and your clients will like you even more.
I appreciate your point of view, but I don't think I'm attacking anything. I have my experience, and my clients have theirs. I've met plenty of people who love to be adjusted with thrusting techniques, my mentor for one. When I'm observing, he has me adjust some of his clients that don't like his adjustments, and they are the cleanest I've ever seen or experienced.
And- Don't get too excited...this technique is a great adjuct to a good chiropractic care. The excellence of the hands of good chiropractic cannot be replaced, it will only evolve as the practitioners evolve.
There is another technique that I teach to professionals, doctors and chiropractors mostly, some body workers, called Soft Tissue Adjusting Technique. Many chiropractors and osteopaths have similar techniques that they figure out for themselves. I find that techniques that use a thrust are rarely needed. I even have video to teach clients friends or body workers how to do these adjustments if they are not able to do the self adjusting techniques.
I'm not here to impress anyone, only to offer an alternative that works. I never said that Chiro doesn't work, or that it passes range of motion. It merely hurts, and at times injures. I have treated over a hundred people for injuries that were caused by chiropractic adjustments.
Try out the collarbone adjustment, that's my freebie. The rest of the techniques are just as gentle and just as easy, though he ribs are perhaps a little harder.
Your open mind doesn't seem so open by your comments.
I've been adjusted by no less than 35 practitioners and outside of one, it has never hurt in almost 150 adjustements. As far as injuries, they have the lowest malpractice rate of any healthcare practitioners. Many times they are using muscles that have been inhibited for years and think they are 'hurt', but there is rarely a case where somene truly is. The collarbone, sure. Fingers you can do on your own as well as the toes. That's about it. I will stay on this, however.
I'm glad you have had such good experiences with chiropractors, others have not been so lucky. I have treated numerous clients that have been injured by chiropractors. My mentor, a chiropractor, has treated some very severe injuries that were caused by chiropractic adjustments.
I doubt that they were really 'hurt' by chiros. I'd love to see your mentor put exactly what the problem was and was caused by. What I've usually encountered are people claiming to be 'hurt' when it was merely their body's response to having muscles that have atrophied, trying to do work again. I'm not saying it doesn't happen, just not very often (as in rarely). And I mistyped below-mobilization.
I guess you would have had to be there. Clinical experience. Maybe he draws those clients. But, I'm talking little pain from a simple fall or sleeping crooked to months of pain after a poor adjustment. It does happen, as you say, but much more than you think. Have there ever been any follow-up studies after chiropractor visits? I've always wanted to see one.
Yes, and like I said, the most common negative effect was muscle soreness and was caused from different muscle loading, not from tearing or contusions. If you have a spondylolisthesis or a fracture, and it was adjusted into, you would have a point. But that's malpractice.
I'm afraid we are going to have to agree to disagree on this one. A neck adjustment that leaves someone with more pain in the neck for several days to weeks can still be an injury caused by the adjustment. Especially if the neck was only subluxated for a short time. I've also worked on people who have been knocked out of alignment by a massage. A gentle adjustment later and they are pain free, no muscle adjustment needed, I've had this happen no fewer than 50 times.
By that logic, I've studied some yoga on tv and youtube, so I guess i can write books about yoga and be a yoga instructor and people should take me seriously.
I'm not saying that it doesn't take training to do a chiropractic adjustment. I'm saying that adjustments can be done with a gentle technique. It doesn't require a thrust to make an adjustment.
And, I've had a ton of training with chiropractic techniques. I can adjust as cleanly as my mentor. He now uses the gentle techniques as well in his practice because they work.
I also study biochemistry because it gives me something useful.
Right now I am working with someone via email who thinks her tinnitus was caused by a neck adjustments. I don't see how this is possible, but it was immediate for her. Still trying to see what could have caused it. Do you have any ideas?
I'm not disagreeing with you on this one, but I wouldn't call it laughable. Tinnitus can be a serious issue, and all the causes are not known. She reported that her neck was not hurting before the adjustment, and that it was a particularly loud and painful adjustment, then the buzzing started. Cause and effect or not, she's not happy to say the least.
I have mild tinnitus. It was caused from working around speakers when I was younger. There is no mechanism to justify an adjustment causing it. A chiro, maybe if he covered her ear and casued a suction or something else, but it's anecdotal any way you cut it.
If her neck was not hurting, why was it being worked on? Surely something had to be worng or it wouldn't have adjusted.
She went in for other things. She didn't think her neck needed an adjustment, but you know how fast some chiro's can act. "rack em and crack em" unfortunately many are there for the money. And, just because it cracked doesn't mean it adjusted. Another big misconception about chiropractic, just because something cracks doesn't' mean it adjusted, and an adjustment doesn't have to crack. After all, the crack is only an air bubble poppint.
So, the chiro wanted to do more work that he had to? I haven't found that yet either. Usually I'm telling them something else I want worked on. No, the misconception is that if something cracks when NOT using a chiro technique it adjusts (and some don't 'crack' at all). Chiro techniques prevent an area from being adjuted that can't be. It's called joint mechanics. Use anecdote all you want, but it doesn't change physics.
Again, I'm not arguing with you on this one. I don't know what could have caused her tinnitus, but her perception has to be taken into account. And, why did it make so much loud noise if it didn't need to be adjusted? But, I am saying that some chiros don't have the highest ethic. Fortunately, not a high percentage.
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I just gave another video very high regard, in writing, after observing this fantastic tecnique. However, after listening and reading more, it looks like you're lumping all chiro's into one lump. Not cool. I can't refer my patients to your videos because you can't hold back your prejudices. Nobody wins. I love your technique, though.
I don't believe all chiropractors are poor at giving adjustments, I've had a couple of good ones, and met a few who talked like they gave good adjustments. And, activator chiropractors don't hurt people either, at least I've never heard of any causing problems. Many of the people that are interested in this gentle way of self adjusting are interested in avoiding chiropractors for their own reasons which I do honor. And, I have done chiropractic adjustments on people that want/need them.
Activator doesn't actually adjust anything either. Much like your techniques. Joint mobiliztion is not an adjustment and that's what you're selling. It is better than nothing and it is helpful, but it is not an adjustment.
I'd have to disagree with this one completely if only from personal experience. I was barely able to walk, in at least level 9 pain with the spasm, then I was fine. How else would you explain that other than the adjustment occurred? Then he wanted to see me dozens more times, so I figured out how to get my self out of pain and able to walk.
FIne then, tell what the mechanism was? It still sounds like muscle trying to adapt to the optimal position that couldn't. It's not the chiro's fault and being seen after should help and should not continue having the same effect. A before and after MRI is the only way to 'prove' causation. When I first tried orthotics, I had them in 3 days and couldn't walk. Now, I love them. You're using way too much anecdote.
It was a muscle spasm from a minor accident. My mentor, who has more years experience than you have years on the planet, says this is a common issue having to do with misalignment around L5. A couple of clicks and it was fine.
Why would he do that? He's way to busy. And, it sounds like you don't believe me, I'm not lying.
I was remembering how my sensitivity to feeling adjustments happen. The first time I felt a hip shift when doing an iliacus adjustment, it was a very thin woman who fell while playing volleyball. It was such a distinctive movement, really cool to feel for the first time. A definite movement of the bones. These are adjustments, and nothing you say will ever convince me otherwise.
Chiro adjustment does NOT move the vertebrae past it's normal range of motion, much less force it to do so. Many techniques use lower or no force, but when done correctly, there is very little force in even a Gonstead adjustment.
I will look at the material with an open mind, but so far, I'm not impressed.
1. Rest and heat? Reduction of activities is fine, but movement heals more than rest. Heat? Useful as a warmup for activity, but causes more harm than good otherwise (inflammation on inflammation). It should be ice that is used.
2. Epsom salts contain magnesium, a mineral that reduces muscle spasm. Some help, but usually pallitive.
3.Physiotherapy is what you're describing. Not really PT.
Don't use heat immediately after an adjustment, use cold, heat when the pain is no longer sharp but a dull ache. Agree movement heals, active isolated stretching is amazing.
3. This is not PT, an adjustment actually occurs, This technique has been checked by chiropractors and medical doctors.
4,5??
I've been adjusted with chriopractic thrust technique a dozen times. All but one hurt like hell, half of them caused injury that took weeks to recover from. I study from the good one.
I'm taking these points of your site, not making up my own.
3) Is when you reccomend PT.
If you are that easily 'hurt' you have something else going on. I'd also reccomend a non-force technique as well. I've been adjusted by, as I've said above, at least 35 practitioners for over 150 times and only one 'hurt' and she was pretty bad. I also had a PT and Osteopath manip and they were by far and away worse than all the other chiros.
You're pretty pessimistic about people's habits. I've taught a lot of good people who were tired of paying a chiropractor as well as pro bono for people who were struggling to keep food on the table for their families. I am serious, this technique works. Remember how Palmer was treated?
You can not judge something you have no experience with. Get real
Thanks for the book Kalidasa. I was amazed at how easy it was to adjust my neck! I still can't believe it was that easy. I checked and checked by moving my head around, but the pain was gone! And, without cracking or anything. How can chiropractors charge so much to hurt people when it is so easy to do such a gentle adjustment?
Chiropractors just don't know about this method. It's new. Even though I get a lot of flak about it from people that have never seen what the methods are, I get a lot of praise from chiropractors and even medical doctors that have attended the advanced training for practitioners. I'll keep at it though, I take my inspiration from Palmer, the originator of chiropractic methods. He was ridiculed and even threatened too. Yes, I've received threats, there's even one in this thread that I left.
Thanks Kalidasa! It's so nice to wake up in the morning, take two minutes, and be able to function! and, it's so nice to not have to get cracked all the time, your technique doesn't hurt at all. I'm also trying your other suggestions for my lower back so I can get the root cause fixed. Thanks again and again. I'm sure my chiro isn't as happy though!
And let's not forget the reason we are where we are today is because numerous people have questioned the 'accepted norm' and come up with new forms of treatment and therapy.
So Well Done you my friend and the very Best of Luck with it all!!
Thank you haynej. I don't mind the skeptics because I really am here to try to help people, and I know how well these methods work. And, it is easy to gently adjust people. I know so many people that feel worse after a chiropractic adjustment, and it just isn't necessary. I teach a professional class for chiropractors, doctors and such that I would like to make into a course for online distribution some day soon.
Seems there's alot of sceptisism from the chiropractic contingent regarding your techniques, ironically probably the same sceptisism Mr palmer recieved around 1890 when he started doing his work.
This is a natural defence mechanism of the the human pysche to defend ones own profession. But i commend you on being so innovative and it sounds as though you have done you research (judging by some of your interactions with the doubters) continued...
A proper chiropractic adjustment is specific. We isolate one particular level and it has a neurological basis. It is not based on how you feel. You are demonstrating gross manipulation with no specificity. You may be mobilizing segments but, there is no criteria for when or when not to. Your criteria for necessity is how you feel. That is very un-scientific and very dangerous for many. You underestimate how stupid most of the people are that watch this.
These aren't chiropractic adjustments. When I teach the professional class to doctors and chiropractors I have to first get the chiros to realize there is no thrust. This technique is so gentle that nothing happens if you adjust in the wrong direction. If it's still uncomfortable then adjust the other way.
And, you seem good at crapping on something you have absolutely no understanding of. The demonstrations are free if the technique doesn't work for you, small fee if they do. I have trouble understanding people like you. You attack like you are defending something, what's the deal? At least you're not as childish as some I've deleted. I don't understand why you don't simply ask for a demo.
Criticalness tells a lot about the criticizer. It can also help the one being criticized. Demo on the way.
You're pathetic! You should read the book, won't cost you a thing since it's guaranteed. That's your demonstration. I was able to adjust myself minutes after getting the book. Well written too! They crapped on Palmer too (I know you're too dumb to know who he was, invented modern chiropractic techniques. Kalidasa is going to be just as famous is my prediction!)
This is not scientific. It is full body no cracking should be done at all. . Use only upper cervical specific that uses x rays scientific instrumentation before and after adjustment. Ones that pay close attention to the sagittal atlantoaxial region.
i'm pretty sure it's illegal for this guy to sell a book to adjust yourself...chiropractic is a regulated profession that can only be performed by a licensed chiro...and adjusting yourself can be harmful...this guy is ridiculous...please do not buy this book and try it...
freshprincechiro, you are an idiot. let the man sell his video to help others who need the enlightenment. try and think about what you are implying before typing. there is nothing wrong or illegal about a yoga video or muscle building video, so what makes you so irritated about this particular video? lighten up a little bit and get off your high horse.
What is really happening here is that this is something so new that it doesn't fit any current paradigm. I am already wonderful at what I do. I have worked with and on medical doctors and chiropractors. I have friends in all areas of healing who I have shown this to. I have tested this extensively with my peers and hundreds of clients. I know it works. As I mentioned before, I am only doing this to benefit humanity. I expect a lot of trouble because it is new and controversial.
you are definitely passationate of what you do,i give you that
although not said, you definitely understand the power of adj.
you are a lot more passionate of "chiropractic" than some of classmates, which puts me into shame.
what's more shameful is, i really do see a wonderful chiropractor inside of you. with right direction, i can forsee your GREAT chiropractic success (not necesarrily $)
i wish you'd be a DC someday and truly benefit humankind with your head and your hand
w/ all due respect, i am really getting frustrated with this conv. as we keep going on circle. i am trying to answer all your Q as much as possible but you are avoiding Qs that i pose that are "uncomfortable to answer".
1. do you have enough humanbody knowledge?
2. what is your schooling background?
3. do you know the mechanism of vertebral misalignment etc and the sp. manipulation itself?
4. what qualifies you to teach others about self adjustment?
You've been avoiding my question, what about the people teaching how to do forceful adjustments that can hurt?
My background is informal but extensive. I spent three years studying from a 30 year chiropractor. He uses this technique, it works for him. Did you read anything of mine? My bio etc? it's on my blog. It's hard to list my areas of study from biochemistry and nutrition to teaching yoga for thirty years. I'm qualified to teach this because I have, to hundreds of people.
Then what is your investment in making me wrong? There are hundreds of videos teaching people how to do thrusting manipulations. The only time I was ever hurt with body work was a thrust to my lower back, crippled me for three weeks! These are so gentle that you'd have to have CIPA (feel no pain) to cause damage. And again, It is a self applied technique akin to massaging your own neck or back. There's even a yoga pose for the sacrum.
you keep saying since it didnt hurt my "patients", it was fine. feeling good and getting a right correction is a whole different story.
AKK !! ONCE AGAIN, IT DOESNT MATTER IF IT IS GENTLE, ROUGH WHATEVER , IF IT DOESNT HAVE A CORRECT LINEARITY OF WHATEVER YOU DO, THERE IS ALWAYS HIGH POSSIBILITY TO MESS SOMEONE UP
My goodness, such venom. That's ok, I really don't mind. And, I am not doing anything illegal, do as you think you must. Be sure to report all the other videos that show how to do chiropractic cracking.
I'm teaching people how to take care of themselves, not how to do something illegal to another.
I'll let you in on something. I didn't want to present this for this very reason, people like you. I expect all kinds of hell because of this. But, I had to, too many people will benefit from it.
NO, ITS NOT A VENOM. what is hard to understand, you are teaching how to "take care" of people by spinal manipulation is ILLEGAL. phone any place you want, it is illegal. BECAUSE IT IS DANGEROUS. how can someone self diagnose and rule out severe pathology (e.g. tumor, vertebral fracture etc) by watching your video, mind you, those pathologies could just present itself as mild back pain too.
spinal manipulation(doesnt even need to be an adj) is A MEDICAL ACT. YOU AINT QAULIFIED FOR THAT
anyways, like i said thousand times, you selling people about how to give spinal manipulation is illegal evenif you are chiropractors as only liscenced healthcare providers are only the ones liscensed to do so under the U.S. law.
bottom line is this: i dont care how great your technique is, how effective it is (which would be not, i am sure by talking to you), what you do is illegal. STOP SELLING THIS or I WILL REPORT YOU TO THE PROPER AUTHORITY.
dougm9er, it's comments like your previous one that I will remove, and from now on, report. It's in the YouTube tos that I don't have to put up with nasty comments, so in the future I will be reporting harassment. Feel free to offer criticism...that actually helps.
Is it really necessary to express your anger in such a nasty way on a public forum like this? You only demonstrate to the world that 21 is the new 13.
as a chiropractic student, i can GARANTEE that you can't ADJUST yourself or someone else without proper training. sure, you can make "popping" or "cracking" sound by MANIPULATING the spine, but i gotta tell you that THAT IS NOT WHAT CHIROPRACTIC IS.
#1. chiropractic is about relieving abnormal nerve pressure impinged in inter vertebral foramen. Thus, in order to deliver an ADJUSTMENT, you need to be able to DIAGNOSE and deliver your ADJUSTMENT to a specific spot.
#2. spinal manupulation is only to be delievered by DOCTORS OF CHIROPRACTIC or healthcare professinals with 300 hrs training which is not merely enough. thus, you advertising your videotape about self manipulation can surely put your butt into jail.
at the end of the day, you can crack , whack your own spine, or someone else improperly. but it is not even close to the real adjustment. just remember that spinal adjustment is not a play, but a medical act. you can severely injure yourself or other if you dont know what you are doing.
once again, i am fine with what you do even if it is illegal. just dont offer your service being an alternative choice of seeing a chiropractor because it's straight b.s.
The thing I seem to have the most trouble getting across is that this technique does not involve cracking at all. Spinal adjustments do involve a pressure, but only four ounces, and it does give relief. I just can't emphasis enough how gentle this is. Chiropractors typically use way too much force (not all). Four ounces for a vertebra, a little more for a rib and no thrust. How is someone going to hurt themselves?
because amount of force or cavitation sound does not equate to the impact to the body. it is the direcion of the force that matter the most. i garantee you can mess someone up with you thrust someone's C1 in wrong direction or any rib for that matter. the feeling you get after the cracking sound is nothing more than beta endolphin release that makes you feel good temporarily, nothing more. it seems so clear to me that YOU HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO KNOWLEDGE WHEN IT COMES TO HUMAN BODY. thats scary.
There is no thrust. There is no crack. No pain, No fear. Do it yourself. Only a chiropractor could have a problem with it.
I also teach how to gently adjust others. Chiropractors are the hardest to teach, they keep wanting to thrust. Even when I adjust them, they want me to thrust. But, there is no thrust, and they acknowledge relief.
Did I say it enough times? THERE IS NO TRUST. Don't like to yell, but it seems to be hard to hear.
i practice solely gonstead technique. and i can reason everything i do (the vertebrae i chose, the line of correction etc). plus, i can scientifically explain and prove what subluxation or nerve pressure is and how my adjustment can relieve such phenomenon and how it can better human body.
i would love to hear from you sceintific reasoning behind of what you do and why you do. if you can't explain whatever you do and why you do so, you aint better than a shaman. once again, THIS IS NOT A PLAY
And, there are people who say there is no such thing as a subluxation, with lots of scientific proof. The Chinese have been adjusting for thousands of years. The proof is in the relief. I have adjusted people under a chiropractor's supervision and they were adjusted without a thrust or a crack. So again, how can it hurt if there is no thrust or crack?
You are right about one thing, I haven't communicated how it works very well. I hope to make a video or two soon to rectify that.
HAHAHA. the reason why people say that subluxation doesnt exist is because it is impossible to prove quantum biomechanics of subluxation of human body with current technology. it would require an advanced technology to prove that.even if you want to do a double blinded study of subluxation adjustment. how can you contrast adjustment and psuedo-adjustment ? then again, i dont have to explain any of this to you as you have not proved yourself having ANY VALID BACKGROUND to comprehend any.
So, my proof is that people feel better. They can turn their head where they couldn't before. They can walk when they couldn't before. They can take a deep breath where they couldn't before. Man, you are tough, what do you want? It hurts, it feels better! Can't hurt yourself with four ounces of pressure except maybe on your eyeball. Nope, weighed something and put 4 oz of pressure on my eye, didn't hurt! To anyone but a chiro, this is a no-brainer.
proof is result? hardly! if i blindfold myself and swing a golf course and hit something, and the ball went far, does this make me a pro golfer? no ! for one, you can't always garantee you'd hit the ball blindfolded, two, you can't be compared to pro golfer just because you can hit a golf ball.
A lot of people would disagree with you. I only have a few testimonials on the sales page. Here's the lastest:
God bless you a thousand-fold for your immensely liberating and helpful book~! Really, this information is priceless- thank you for being an open channel and a giving heart. This book was an answer to a deep prayer I put out to receive a way to help myself feel better, without the need to depend on others.....
testimonials are just pure balony as you can just filter out ones you like and put it as testimonials. so, no, at this point, i really gotta assume that you even lack some common knowledge.
my gosh, i gave you a easy metaphor you could follow and you still dont get it.
your 2nd paragraph makes no sense whatsoever
once, again, bottom line, is result is not what should matter, show me the methodology that is logical, show me that your "adj" is good as a chiro's then i will shut up
Yea, some people don't care for testimonials, but I do. This is someone who was obviously helped with this technique. She was helped, what's wrong with that?
I get your metaphor. I once got my neck adjusted when my martial arts instructor hit me. So, what?
The second paragraph is the testimonial. Pretty hard to misunderstand.
I don't care if you shut up or not, I enjoy this. I just need a model and I will do a demo video.
Results don't matter? That doesn't make sense. Results are EVERYTHING. That is why people pay money to go to a chiropractor, a doctor, a neurosurgeon, a cosmetic surgeon; RESULTS! If results don't matter then what does? If you lift heavy weights every day for several months and STILL can't get bigger or stronger, then you'll probably STOP lifting weights! Everything people do, is for the results at the end!
result here we are talking about is not PHYSIOGICAL RESULT, just a psychological effect. thus, your argument is invalid. you go to see a doctor to get well and get REAL result, not just the sensation that your body is well.
and for something to be defined to be as an adjustment, it doesn't need to "crack" or need to have thrust, there are many chiropractic techniques that doesnt crack or thrust but effet humanbody. SOT is a good example. anything that is aimed to influence human body by the vertebral columns is defined as spinal MANIPULATION by LAW. thus, yes, you can mess up someone's body even if it doesn't crack or have thrust, like i said, any wrong line of correction(even w/o thrust) can damage a body
I said that because you keep going on about thrusting. Obviously you can do an adjustment without cracking, that's what the technique I teach is all about.
Is cranial sacral technique illegal for non-chiropractors? How about TBM? Network chiropractic? Really, I am curious. They all claim to adjust something, and probably do.
I'm not adjusting anyone, I'm showing them how to get relief from back, neck, hip and rib pain. What's illegal about someone massaging their own neck? That's what it amounts to. It's called SELF Adjusting Technique.
you have adjusted someone under a chiro supervision? correction. you have MANIPULATED someone under chiro supervision. that's illegal. like i said, you need to be a chiro or a healthcare PRACTITIONER to give an adjustment. i can report YOU and your chiropractor and throw both of you to jail.
what chineses do, (it's call tuina by the way) is manipulation and is not chiropractic adjustment, as it doesnt aim to correct the nervous system or subluxation.
Because you don't aim to do correct the nervous system or subluxation it isn't an adjustment? I don't know how many necks I have fixed because some massage therapist knocked something out of alignment. I have experimented on my own body to see if I could hurt myself, even doing the wrong direction on a rotated vertebra I couldn't hurt myself. You will never be convinced unless you experience it yourself, this is obvious. Even then, you will have to defend your profession.
phew. alright. let me try again.IF IT ISNT to correct the nervous system isnt adjustment. for a vertebra to rotate, it needs to go posterior and rotate to either side, by doing so, there'd be swelling ligament near IVF, then the IgG and other immunoglobins would create toxicity in lig itself, hence disturbing nerve flow. this is not very detailed but you not being able to link rotated vertebra with nerve flow shows. YOU NEED MORE SCHOOLING AND ARENT READY TO TOUCH SOMEONE'S BACK.YOU ARE NOT A DC
Please rephrase this: IF IT ISNT to correct the nervous system isnt adjustment
Sounds like it isn't an adjustment if you aren't correcting the nervous system???
All of those chemical processes take time. Maybe not much, but minutes to days. What if the problem were corrected before inflammation had a chance to set in? I was walking with a chiropractor when he stepped in a hole. He twisted his ankle something terrible. I quickly adjusted it, he had no swelling or other problem, walked fine.
Sounds like it isn't an adjustment if you aren't correcting the nervous system???
-YES,it isnt. now, do not equate spinal manipulation with adj. adj. is something only chiropractors can give. sp. manipulation is sth even PT or DO do.
- chiropractic adjustment can be given before there are swelling. all i did before, was to tell how nerve could get the toxicity by soft tissue swelling. acute situation explanation needs bit more addition. oh, you adjusted an ankle,what was the listing?
I am sorry that you are getting so many negative comments... I don't think a lot of people realize the value of learning how to be their own chiropractor... truly, it is simple enough that any layperson can learn how to do it, but a GOOD sense of judgement is required! There is a very real danger of an amateur "chiropractor" giving someone an adjustment and ending up fracturing or breaking their back! Nevertheless, this is SUCH an invaluable skill to learn and I commend you.
Thanks inirtrini, I appreciate your thoughts. I actually don't mind the negative comments, they tell me where I fall short communicating about this technique. I have been realizing that people don't understand how Self Adjusting Technique works. So, I have a video planned that explains that.
Interesting that many videos that show up next to mine are showing cracking techniques that really can hurt people. I can't imagine how someone would hurt themselves with my methods.
You obviously don't know what you're talking about! You wouldn't believe how gentle this technique is. There is absolutely no way to hurt yourself in anyway at all, much less 'fracture' your back. You're the fool! You obviously didn't even read the sale letter!
Upon examining your profile I find that you support chiropractors who will lose money because now there is something people can do for themselves. I steel from chiropractors? I don't find any info about you though. Look at my site and you will find my address and phone number. I answer too. I also find that you are 18 years old, hardly old enough to be judging something you know nothing about. Finally, I leave you with this thought Matthew 7:1.
Thanks for the reply. In my last comment I just listed a couple of conditions off of the top of my head that could complicate an adjustment (however gentle it may be) although there are countless more. When you post your demostration video I would appreciate it if you could show an upper cervical/occiput adjustment or a sacral adjustment...thanks.
I'll see what I can do. I have to confess though, the occipital adjustment is something that really needs something external. But, if the fight/flight response is released then the occiput usually releases by itself. I have something in the works to show how to do that.
So what happes if someone has a serious medical condition that would contraindicate an adjustment such as high blood pressure or atherosclerosis of the carotid or vertebral arteries? Does your book teach clinical judgement as well?...but on the other hand...if people use your technique and stroke themselves out, at least they will get their $37 back. I do think that your heart is in the right place; I just hope that you understand the possible outcomes for your patrons...best of luck...
I appreciate your concern. The techniques are so gentle that it is impossible to cause the kind of problems you describe. I have consulted with medical doctors and chiropractors extensively. There is absolutely no forcing involved. It is more gentle than a Swedish massage. No fast movements, cracking, pushing, jerking, pain etc. I'll do a demo video soon so you can see.
Can anyone think of any other condition I should consult about?
I have heard & read that high blood pressure or atherosclerotic arteries aren't contraindications 2 chirop adjustments. The quacks will try to click anything & everything they can as long as the money is paid. By all accounts, clinical judgement isn't taught 2 them and is certainly not used by them. GPA of 2.5 is required in a community college 2 get in2 chiropractic-what a joke. Having said that, some1 can gain as much knowledge in a weekend course as they have doing their fake 'doctorate'.
...you're a medic?...too bad your opinion doesn't count :-)
Oh...by the way, I thought that I was mannerly in my previous posts. I'm not sure why you have such a problem with chiropractors. Orthopedic tests are used to determine whether or not an adjustment is a good idea. Every profession has its share of incompetent people..and anyone who is working specifically for the money obviously has poor ethics. I'm sure you'll have a wonderful response to this post...try to make it educated next time.
Sorry, if you think I was getting personal in my previous response. Sometimes I get carried away but as you can see, none of what I said was directed at you.
And you're right, at the end of the day, my opinion doesn't count for much. Luckily it doesn't have to. The opinions of those that do matter however, are being heard and will no doubt spell the beginning of the end of the quack profession. If you're not aware of it already, google 'Nette vs Stiles lawsuit' - it's about time...
Palmer was called a quack. This technique works, at least for me. I was able to adjust myself minutes after downloading this wonderful, life saving book. Best money I ever spent, the worst I ever spent was the thousands I spent on chiropractors!
high blood pressue or atherosclerotic arteries unless it is CVA that could be compromised, is not a contrindication. why? because the adjustment does not compromise the vascular system much at all.
You can't fool people these days that easily. The public is getting smarter. They see that what you selling is no comparison to a chiropractic adjustment hence the 1 star rating you got. Also the person on your profile picture is the same one giving the testimonial...
Surprise! Im not a chiropractor. And you are not a healer! The testimonial is useless as well. Send me some research and i'll consider stoping my histerical laughing! There is NO such a thing as self adjusting. All you are doing is moving joints that are already hypermobile. Good luck when your customers are suing you for getting arthritis!
I think you are the biggest joke on Youtube. What you call "adjusting yourself" is merely a crude manipulation. There is no way you can figure out which spinal segmants are hypo or hyper mobile without proper palpation. There is no way you are going to tell me that what you think you developed can be a substitute for specific scientific chiropractic adjustments. Get real people! There is no way you can learn something a university teaches in 4 years from one book. Go to a REAL chiropractor!
What a surprise, a chiropractor who doesn't want people to be able to adjust themselves. You obviously didn't read the testimonials, or the book. So, I thought I would post a video testimonial for you all.
Surprise! Im not a chiropractor. And you are not a healer! The testimonial is useless as well. Send me some research and i'll consider stoping my histerical laughing! There is NO such a thing as self adjusting. All you are doing is moving joints that are already hypermobile. Good luck when your customers are suing you for getting arthritis!
This is a new method that has a very simple proof. Try it. If it doesn't work, you get your money back. 90 day unconditional guarantee. What else do you want? I even make myself available to help people with it if I can.
I worked with doctors and chiropractors for over ten years to develop a safe and effective way to adjust yourself.
Enjoy your laugh, chirobobek, I don't mind. I'm just happy that people can now take care of themselves.
You can't fool people these days that easily. The public is getting smarter. They see that what you selling is no comparison to a chiropractic adjustment hence the 1 star rating you got. Also the person on your profile picture is the same one giving the testimonial...
Actually, there is such a thing as self-adjusting. I discovered it a year ago and absolutely loved it. It's safer than having someone *crack* your back, in my opinion. Here's a basic example: When you do Yoga stretching, the elongation of your body along your spine in many positions will actually decompress your spine, sometimes "popping" it gently in the right direction. It's a really wonderful sensation, leaving you feeling taller (literally!), and eliminating back pain caused by decompression
Hmm, actually, I think chiropractic & chiropractors are the biggest jokes on youtube. I wasn't aware they taught chiropractic at university, I thought it was only at schools. As far as I am aware, 'scientific' and 'chiropractic' don't go well in the same sentence. You ask for research backing up self adjusting, since when has chiropractic been evidence-based? Gosh, over 100 years in existence and not one shred of evidence backing up 'adjustments' the founding principle of the whole quakery.
I used to have serious spinal compression caused by having 1 leg slightly shorter than the other while i was growing up. Going to a chiropractor was such a wonderful experience; my spine decompressed, I gained about 1-1/2" in height, and the excruciating back pain that would leave me lying on the floor, writing in pain, was gone! Chiropractic care is a much more natural alternative to back surgery, yet many "docors" speak against it (doctors make money prescribing medicine) so they never try.
Hi inirtrini, I have 2 take u @ ur word regarding ur chiro experience. Yes, I think anything is more natural than surgery, which should only b considered as a last resort. However, people generally need 2 b more aware of the dangers involved in the claims that chiros make about being able 2 heal real illnesses. Yes, they have their place in the treatment of low back pain, but this differs very little from PT & DO treatment. I hope u have ceased ur chiro treatment now that ur back is better.
Yes, I have. I agree, chiropractic adjustments that are not necessary can only do more harm than good, because there is such a thing as decompressing the spine too much, pulling dangerously at the discs between vertebrae. However, sometimes my back gets twisted in the wrong direction (from slouching or waking up in a bad position in bed, etc.), and to correct these I'll stretch, bend, and rotate my body (sometimes popping it in the process) until my spine feels well again.
Tell me Inirtrini, do you think, from what you know about the subject, that chiropractic can treat other issues besides back pain. Considering the fact, that you have done what a PT/osteo/chiro would do for you but you have done yourself on your back. And if so, what other things do you think they can treat, off the top of your head?
more harm than good ? what basis are you saying this ? decompressing the spine too much ? huh ? what the hell do you mean? you are not making any sense at all.
when your back gets "twisted" in wrong side, it stretches ligament, muscles, nerves in wrong direction thus giving u discomfort. but the thing is in order to have a vetebra to be rotated, it needs to go posterior first. how are you gonna fix that by yourself ?
your "feel good" is nothing more than temp endolphin relsease
oh? chiropractic is the bigest joke? chiropractic are taught in univ. as well. for example, UBCC teaches chiropractic.
scientific and chiropractic dont go together ? what have you been smokin? for instance, dr.dikholst just came up with double blinded study that c1 adj actually lowers abnormal b.p.
the thing is medic 8888, it doesnt matter what you say. chiropractic works and i see clinical results everyday.
pls feel free to disagree and yap all you want. but before that, go learn more.
Oh by the way freshprincechiro, I try not to waste my time reading rubbish research so I trust this brilliant paper you speak of is pretty good. I look forward to reading the research you use to justify what you do.
You say it's a "free copy of Back Pain Secrets at the link" but you are gonna refund me if it doesn't work. So how do you refund free money ? This is more intriguing than your technique...
BulletCowboy 1 year ago 5
@BulletCowboy The refund if for Self Adjusting Technique. I don't think it's right for people to pay for something that doesn't help them. While most people will be able to adjust themselves nothing works for everyone.
Kalidasab 1 year ago 4
I need the book and I hope you got the videos because It's much nicer to see exactly how to do it.
sulivel 1 year ago
@sulivel Yes, there are videos available.
Kalidasab 1 year ago
Fix your ribs?
I didn't realise ribs had joints that could be adjusted...
WoddeeLives 1 year ago
@WoddeeLives Yep, front and back though the front ones fuse as we age.
Kalidasab 1 year ago 4
Your neck massage/adjustment is helping me so very much.
I have Migraine's caused by this tight muscle and have for years pulled down on it. Pushing across is making a HUGE difference. Don't listen to the naysayers. You must really be helping people ; you certainly are helping me :)
atelise 2 years ago
I'm glad that massage helped. The most common cause of migraines is a deficiency of magnesium. Take it separately from calcium as they compete for the same receptor sites, and taken at night it will help you sleep. Three or four grams is a good dose, but beware; too much can give you diarrhea.
And yes, I don't listen the naysayers. Unfortunately, the world is full of them. It's true, I'm just here to try and help, those people are just in too much pain to be helped. Thanks.
Kalidasab 2 years ago
(You Quoted) "At least, until I was able to properly adjust them with my gentle techniques and some nutritional support. " My friend, what are you typically adjusting? An adjustment is specific or it's nothing. An adjustment is specific and should be done by a DOCTOR of Chiropractic alone!
bhtapper 2 years ago
I didn't say for a reason.
Palmer was treated much worse than I am being treated. The doctors of the time were wrong about Palmer, it could be that there is more to this than you understand, just like the doctors back then.
Kalidasab 2 years ago
They don't believe it without knowing what it is. Palmer had hell to pay too. (He originated chiropractic.)
Kalidasab 2 years ago
Stop hating on this guy, hes cool.
KaosKaptainKenta 2 years ago
Thanks KaosKaptainKenta. I guess this technique is scarry for some people. Funny, most of them are chiropractic students, chiropractors are cool with it for the most part.
Kalidasab 2 years ago
You need to get through Chiro school and national boards or you will get yourself in trouble injuring another body or worse. We learn how to diagnose and when not to adjust, that is the big picture of Chiropractic. You are an embarrassement to my profession.
atlasontop 2 years ago
I always get this from chiropractors. Please try to understand: There is no thrust! I have taught this technique to chiropractors and doctors and everyone of them says it's safe.
I also don't understand why chiros pick on me, there are many videos showing how to do a lumbar roll which crippled a client of mine! At least, until I was able to properly adjust them with my gentle techniques and some nutritional support.
Kalidasab 2 years ago
the claims of great health through adjustments made by your colleagues are embarrassing to your profession.
drin2014 2 years ago
There is a school of chiropractic thought that says illness is related to joint misalignment. Their proof is in the nerve connections.
I don't completely agree with this thinking, but I have seen tough cases go much more smoothly after certain joints are stabilized. You can't through the whole idea out if you've been around for awhile. There is something to be said for clinical experience.
Kalidasab 2 years ago
If you knew anything about chiropractic, you would know that chiropractor's don't force adjustments and that the adjustment (regardless or who does it) only happens in paraphysiological joint space (end range). I guess if the D.C.'s had your knowledge and experise they would be as good as you. By the way, I'm waiting for you to get out the Black and Decker drill and show us how to work on our own teeth. Laypersons doing spinal manipulation is dangerous, that is why there are Doctors.
mg200442000 2 years ago
From Ask The Doctor: "The paraphysiological range of motion is the small amount of additional movement that may be passively forced beyond the maximal passive range of motion."
Force. A DC says this. A chiropractic thrust involves a LOT of force. I am pretty good at this method, but never use it as it ALWAYS causes some soft tissue damage. That's why endorphines are released and people say it feels good.
Self Adjusting Technique uses no force.
Kalidasab 2 years ago
Who are you? You're not even a doctor. If doctors 50 years in the field aren't teaching people how to adjust themselves, why would people buy a book from you? Adjusting is a skill, an art, that is built up over years of experience. Not only that, but the hardest part of it is knowing when not to adjust. When its more serious and refer, and when its getting better, to leave it alone. Thats what you're paying for, not just some cracking sound. What you're doing is very unethical if not illegal.
Krawler480 2 years ago
But they are! Right here on youtube, plenty of chiropractors teaching the lumbar roll for example. I've helped many clients who suffered injury from that maneuver. And, THERE IS NO THRUST! Which means, no way to hurt yourself.
I have over 100 testimonials from people who found back pain relief with these techniques, and a refund rate less than 1 percent while the industry norm is 5 - 10. That tells me it's working a lot more than not.
Kalidasab 2 years ago
I appreciate the figure of speech, but still find it unkind.
And, I still say I'm not attacking. I have my experience and clients of mine have theirs. I'm only pointing these out. If by defending you mean my post about other professionals using non-thrusting techniques, this is to point out that there are people with much more training than you or I who acknowledge these method of adjusting.
Kalidasab 3 years ago
I meant "shut up" as a figure of speech, not attacking kind sir.
Refer to the previous comment- Attack-defend culture is addictive and we can even see it where it doesn't exist.
drjchiro1 3 years ago
There's a natural polarity in people that adjust for money, and the teachings of self adjusting.
Do you want to SEE this polarity, or BE the polarity: It's a simple choice.
They can coexist, brother.
drjchiro1 3 years ago
See the previous comment. I get what you mean by the polarity, and I adjust to the situation. It's just that I don't usually find it necessary to do a thrust, and when I do I don't use half of what I see most chiropractors using. And, I don't adjust for money anymore. Not because I don't need the money, but because I don't want to, personal feelings about my gifts from God. Now my mission is to offer a possibility for proactive, pain free and low cost healing.
Kalidasab 3 years ago
Dude, you're caught in an "attack-defend" spin cycle. My advice- lose the words and just move and heal the body. You're good at it. Just shut-up. You'll be much happier, and your clients will like you even more.
drjchiro1 3 years ago
"shut up" isn't rude, judgmental and attacking?
I appreciate your point of view, but I don't think I'm attacking anything. I have my experience, and my clients have theirs. I've met plenty of people who love to be adjusted with thrusting techniques, my mentor for one. When I'm observing, he has me adjust some of his clients that don't like his adjustments, and they are the cleanest I've ever seen or experienced.
Kalidasab 3 years ago
And- Don't get too excited...this technique is a great adjuct to a good chiropractic care. The excellence of the hands of good chiropractic cannot be replaced, it will only evolve as the practitioners evolve.
goldamy1 3 years ago
There is another technique that I teach to professionals, doctors and chiropractors mostly, some body workers, called Soft Tissue Adjusting Technique. Many chiropractors and osteopaths have similar techniques that they figure out for themselves. I find that techniques that use a thrust are rarely needed. I even have video to teach clients friends or body workers how to do these adjustments if they are not able to do the self adjusting techniques.
Kalidasab 3 years ago
I'm not here to impress anyone, only to offer an alternative that works. I never said that Chiro doesn't work, or that it passes range of motion. It merely hurts, and at times injures. I have treated over a hundred people for injuries that were caused by chiropractic adjustments.
Try out the collarbone adjustment, that's my freebie. The rest of the techniques are just as gentle and just as easy, though he ribs are perhaps a little harder.
Your open mind doesn't seem so open by your comments.
Kalidasab 3 years ago
I've been adjusted by no less than 35 practitioners and outside of one, it has never hurt in almost 150 adjustements. As far as injuries, they have the lowest malpractice rate of any healthcare practitioners. Many times they are using muscles that have been inhibited for years and think they are 'hurt', but there is rarely a case where somene truly is. The collarbone, sure. Fingers you can do on your own as well as the toes. That's about it. I will stay on this, however.
trulyheaven777 3 years ago
I'm glad you have had such good experiences with chiropractors, others have not been so lucky. I have treated numerous clients that have been injured by chiropractors. My mentor, a chiropractor, has treated some very severe injuries that were caused by chiropractic adjustments.
Kalidasab 3 years ago
I doubt that they were really 'hurt' by chiros. I'd love to see your mentor put exactly what the problem was and was caused by. What I've usually encountered are people claiming to be 'hurt' when it was merely their body's response to having muscles that have atrophied, trying to do work again. I'm not saying it doesn't happen, just not very often (as in rarely). And I mistyped below-mobilization.
trulyheaven777 3 years ago
I guess you would have had to be there. Clinical experience. Maybe he draws those clients. But, I'm talking little pain from a simple fall or sleeping crooked to months of pain after a poor adjustment. It does happen, as you say, but much more than you think. Have there ever been any follow-up studies after chiropractor visits? I've always wanted to see one.
Kalidasab 3 years ago
Yes, and like I said, the most common negative effect was muscle soreness and was caused from different muscle loading, not from tearing or contusions. If you have a spondylolisthesis or a fracture, and it was adjusted into, you would have a point. But that's malpractice.
trulyheaven777 3 years ago
I'm afraid we are going to have to agree to disagree on this one. A neck adjustment that leaves someone with more pain in the neck for several days to weeks can still be an injury caused by the adjustment. Especially if the neck was only subluxated for a short time. I've also worked on people who have been knocked out of alignment by a massage. A gentle adjustment later and they are pain free, no muscle adjustment needed, I've had this happen no fewer than 50 times.
Kalidasab 3 years ago
Then get a degree and be legit.
trulyheaven777 3 years ago
Why would I bother doing that? I don't study anything that doesn't edify, and I study all the time. And, I am legit.
Kalidasab 3 years ago
By that logic, I've studied some yoga on tv and youtube, so I guess i can write books about yoga and be a yoga instructor and people should take me seriously.
I am not, and neither are you.
trulyheaven777 3 years ago
I'm not saying that it doesn't take training to do a chiropractic adjustment. I'm saying that adjustments can be done with a gentle technique. It doesn't require a thrust to make an adjustment.
And, I've had a ton of training with chiropractic techniques. I can adjust as cleanly as my mentor. He now uses the gentle techniques as well in his practice because they work.
I also study biochemistry because it gives me something useful.
Kalidasab 3 years ago
Right now I am working with someone via email who thinks her tinnitus was caused by a neck adjustments. I don't see how this is possible, but it was immediate for her. Still trying to see what could have caused it. Do you have any ideas?
Kalidasab 3 years ago
Sorry, but that laughable. Immediate or not, it wasn't from the adjustment. Temporal relationships are not always causal.
trulyheaven777 3 years ago
I'm not disagreeing with you on this one, but I wouldn't call it laughable. Tinnitus can be a serious issue, and all the causes are not known. She reported that her neck was not hurting before the adjustment, and that it was a particularly loud and painful adjustment, then the buzzing started. Cause and effect or not, she's not happy to say the least.
Kalidasab 3 years ago
I have mild tinnitus. It was caused from working around speakers when I was younger. There is no mechanism to justify an adjustment causing it. A chiro, maybe if he covered her ear and casued a suction or something else, but it's anecdotal any way you cut it.
If her neck was not hurting, why was it being worked on? Surely something had to be worng or it wouldn't have adjusted.
trulyheaven777 3 years ago
She went in for other things. She didn't think her neck needed an adjustment, but you know how fast some chiro's can act. "rack em and crack em" unfortunately many are there for the money. And, just because it cracked doesn't mean it adjusted. Another big misconception about chiropractic, just because something cracks doesn't' mean it adjusted, and an adjustment doesn't have to crack. After all, the crack is only an air bubble poppint.
Kalidasab 3 years ago
So, the chiro wanted to do more work that he had to? I haven't found that yet either. Usually I'm telling them something else I want worked on. No, the misconception is that if something cracks when NOT using a chiro technique it adjusts (and some don't 'crack' at all). Chiro techniques prevent an area from being adjuted that can't be. It's called joint mechanics. Use anecdote all you want, but it doesn't change physics.
trulyheaven777 3 years ago
Again, I'm not arguing with you on this one. I don't know what could have caused her tinnitus, but her perception has to be taken into account. And, why did it make so much loud noise if it didn't need to be adjusted? But, I am saying that some chiros don't have the highest ethic. Fortunately, not a high percentage.
Kalidasab 3 years ago
"I f any of you haters want to know what scientific literature says about chiropractors go to my channel DrJDavid. Before you try to comment be aware that you may need more than two neurons firing at the same time to comprehend the message.I challenge ANY to defy the truth. Bring it on Mr. P.T.M.D. whatever education you think you have. I 'll eat you guys for lunch. Anybody can have an opinion. Treating opinions as facts is ridiculous. Come check it out.....I DARE YOU"
DrJDavid 2 years ago
I just gave another video very high regard, in writing, after observing this fantastic tecnique. However, after listening and reading more, it looks like you're lumping all chiro's into one lump. Not cool. I can't refer my patients to your videos because you can't hold back your prejudices. Nobody wins. I love your technique, though.
Find your honor fellow healer.
Dr. J DC
goldamy1 3 years ago
I don't believe all chiropractors are poor at giving adjustments, I've had a couple of good ones, and met a few who talked like they gave good adjustments. And, activator chiropractors don't hurt people either, at least I've never heard of any causing problems. Many of the people that are interested in this gentle way of self adjusting are interested in avoiding chiropractors for their own reasons which I do honor. And, I have done chiropractic adjustments on people that want/need them.
Kalidasab 3 years ago
Activator doesn't actually adjust anything either. Much like your techniques. Joint mobiliztion is not an adjustment and that's what you're selling. It is better than nothing and it is helpful, but it is not an adjustment.
trulyheaven777 3 years ago
I'd have to disagree with this one completely if only from personal experience. I was barely able to walk, in at least level 9 pain with the spasm, then I was fine. How else would you explain that other than the adjustment occurred? Then he wanted to see me dozens more times, so I figured out how to get my self out of pain and able to walk.
Kalidasab 3 years ago
FIne then, tell what the mechanism was? It still sounds like muscle trying to adapt to the optimal position that couldn't. It's not the chiro's fault and being seen after should help and should not continue having the same effect. A before and after MRI is the only way to 'prove' causation. When I first tried orthotics, I had them in 3 days and couldn't walk. Now, I love them. You're using way too much anecdote.
trulyheaven777 3 years ago
It was a muscle spasm from a minor accident. My mentor, who has more years experience than you have years on the planet, says this is a common issue having to do with misalignment around L5. A couple of clicks and it was fine.
Kalidasab 3 years ago
Then maybe he needs to be the one posting the info so he can accountable for an answer. I'm sure lots of chiros would also love to hear it.
trulyheaven777 3 years ago
Why would he do that? He's way to busy. And, it sounds like you don't believe me, I'm not lying.
I was remembering how my sensitivity to feeling adjustments happen. The first time I felt a hip shift when doing an iliacus adjustment, it was a very thin woman who fell while playing volleyball. It was such a distinctive movement, really cool to feel for the first time. A definite movement of the bones. These are adjustments, and nothing you say will ever convince me otherwise.
Kalidasab 3 years ago
Chiro adjustment does NOT move the vertebrae past it's normal range of motion, much less force it to do so. Many techniques use lower or no force, but when done correctly, there is very little force in even a Gonstead adjustment.
I will look at the material with an open mind, but so far, I'm not impressed.
trulyheaven777 3 years ago
1. Rest and heat? Reduction of activities is fine, but movement heals more than rest. Heat? Useful as a warmup for activity, but causes more harm than good otherwise (inflammation on inflammation). It should be ice that is used.
2. Epsom salts contain magnesium, a mineral that reduces muscle spasm. Some help, but usually pallitive.
3.Physiotherapy is what you're describing. Not really PT.
4 and 5, of course.
No positive mention of chiropractic.
trulyheaven777 3 years ago
Don't use heat immediately after an adjustment, use cold, heat when the pain is no longer sharp but a dull ache. Agree movement heals, active isolated stretching is amazing.
3. This is not PT, an adjustment actually occurs, This technique has been checked by chiropractors and medical doctors.
4,5??
I've been adjusted with chriopractic thrust technique a dozen times. All but one hurt like hell, half of them caused injury that took weeks to recover from. I study from the good one.
Kalidasab 3 years ago
I'm taking these points of your site, not making up my own.
3) Is when you reccomend PT.
If you are that easily 'hurt' you have something else going on. I'd also reccomend a non-force technique as well. I've been adjusted by, as I've said above, at least 35 practitioners for over 150 times and only one 'hurt' and she was pretty bad. I also had a PT and Osteopath manip and they were by far and away worse than all the other chiros.
trulyheaven777 3 years ago
Part truth, part crap. This is no substitute for getting adjusted, but it's slightly better than nothing. You cannot adjust yourself.
Funny thing is, people have money for booze, gambling and cigarettes, but not for an adjustment? Get serious.
trulyheaven777 3 years ago
You're pretty pessimistic about people's habits. I've taught a lot of good people who were tired of paying a chiropractor as well as pro bono for people who were struggling to keep food on the table for their families. I am serious, this technique works. Remember how Palmer was treated?
You can not judge something you have no experience with. Get real
Kalidasab 3 years ago
Great technique! I feel so much better. Thanks Kalidasa
larryjohnsonb 3 years ago
Thanks for the book Kalidasa. I was amazed at how easy it was to adjust my neck! I still can't believe it was that easy. I checked and checked by moving my head around, but the pain was gone! And, without cracking or anything. How can chiropractors charge so much to hurt people when it is so easy to do such a gentle adjustment?
deborahwilson52 3 years ago
Chiropractors just don't know about this method. It's new. Even though I get a lot of flak about it from people that have never seen what the methods are, I get a lot of praise from chiropractors and even medical doctors that have attended the advanced training for practitioners. I'll keep at it though, I take my inspiration from Palmer, the originator of chiropractic methods. He was ridiculed and even threatened too. Yes, I've received threats, there's even one in this thread that I left.
Kalidasab 3 years ago
Thanks Kalidasa! It's so nice to wake up in the morning, take two minutes, and be able to function! and, it's so nice to not have to get cracked all the time, your technique doesn't hurt at all. I'm also trying your other suggestions for my lower back so I can get the root cause fixed. Thanks again and again. I'm sure my chiro isn't as happy though!
tonywilson958 3 years ago
Great video. I bought the book and was able to fix my neck in minutes. Good by chiropractor for ever! Thanks!
kbrown5250 3 years ago
And let's not forget the reason we are where we are today is because numerous people have questioned the 'accepted norm' and come up with new forms of treatment and therapy.
So Well Done you my friend and the very Best of Luck with it all!!
haynej 3 years ago
Thank you haynej. I don't mind the skeptics because I really am here to try to help people, and I know how well these methods work. And, it is easy to gently adjust people. I know so many people that feel worse after a chiropractic adjustment, and it just isn't necessary. I teach a professional class for chiropractors, doctors and such that I would like to make into a course for online distribution some day soon.
Kalidasab 3 years ago
Seems there's alot of sceptisism from the chiropractic contingent regarding your techniques, ironically probably the same sceptisism Mr palmer recieved around 1890 when he started doing his work.
This is a natural defence mechanism of the the human pysche to defend ones own profession. But i commend you on being so innovative and it sounds as though you have done you research (judging by some of your interactions with the doubters) continued...
haynej 3 years ago
By the way, I will put up a demo. I'm in transit right now, so it will take a few days to a couple of weeks.
Kalidasab 3 years ago
A proper chiropractic adjustment is specific. We isolate one particular level and it has a neurological basis. It is not based on how you feel. You are demonstrating gross manipulation with no specificity. You may be mobilizing segments but, there is no criteria for when or when not to. Your criteria for necessity is how you feel. That is very un-scientific and very dangerous for many. You underestimate how stupid most of the people are that watch this.
Dr D
spinetingler13 3 years ago
First, I don't think people are stupid.
These aren't chiropractic adjustments. When I teach the professional class to doctors and chiropractors I have to first get the chiros to realize there is no thrust. This technique is so gentle that nothing happens if you adjust in the wrong direction. If it's still uncomfortable then adjust the other way.
Kalidasab 3 years ago
You underestimate how brilliant this guy is! Palmer was called a quack and accused of all kinds of things. And, how dare you call me stupid!
barrbranielson5250 3 years ago
And, you seem good at crapping on something you have absolutely no understanding of. The demonstrations are free if the technique doesn't work for you, small fee if they do. I have trouble understanding people like you. You attack like you are defending something, what's the deal? At least you're not as childish as some I've deleted. I don't understand why you don't simply ask for a demo.
Criticalness tells a lot about the criticizer. It can also help the one being criticized. Demo on the way.
Kalidasab 3 years ago
You seem good at crapping on your years of research, but show no samples of what you've learnt or any demonstrations. Pathetic!
yashi295 3 years ago
You're pathetic! You should read the book, won't cost you a thing since it's guaranteed. That's your demonstration. I was able to adjust myself minutes after getting the book. Well written too! They crapped on Palmer too (I know you're too dumb to know who he was, invented modern chiropractic techniques. Kalidasa is going to be just as famous is my prediction!)
barrbranielson5250 3 years ago
This is not scientific. It is full body no cracking should be done at all. . Use only upper cervical specific that uses x rays scientific instrumentation before and after adjustment. Ones that pay close attention to the sagittal atlantoaxial region.
And can precisely track your progress.
kobidobidog 3 years ago
i'm pretty sure it's illegal for this guy to sell a book to adjust yourself...chiropractic is a regulated profession that can only be performed by a licensed chiro...and adjusting yourself can be harmful...this guy is ridiculous...please do not buy this book and try it...
rd2121 3 years ago
I would advise you not to give legal advice unless you are a lawyer. I have checked it out and it is not illegal.
Kalidasab 3 years ago
freshprincechiro, you are an idiot. let the man sell his video to help others who need the enlightenment. try and think about what you are implying before typing. there is nothing wrong or illegal about a yoga video or muscle building video, so what makes you so irritated about this particular video? lighten up a little bit and get off your high horse.
clydecotton 3 years ago
What is really happening here is that this is something so new that it doesn't fit any current paradigm. I am already wonderful at what I do. I have worked with and on medical doctors and chiropractors. I have friends in all areas of healing who I have shown this to. I have tested this extensively with my peers and hundreds of clients. I know it works. As I mentioned before, I am only doing this to benefit humanity. I expect a lot of trouble because it is new and controversial.
Kalidasab 3 years ago
you are definitely passationate of what you do,i give you that
although not said, you definitely understand the power of adj.
you are a lot more passionate of "chiropractic" than some of classmates, which puts me into shame.
what's more shameful is, i really do see a wonderful chiropractor inside of you. with right direction, i can forsee your GREAT chiropractic success (not necesarrily $)
i wish you'd be a DC someday and truly benefit humankind with your head and your hand
bye
freshprincechiro 3 years ago
w/ all due respect, i am really getting frustrated with this conv. as we keep going on circle. i am trying to answer all your Q as much as possible but you are avoiding Qs that i pose that are "uncomfortable to answer".
1. do you have enough humanbody knowledge?
2. what is your schooling background?
3. do you know the mechanism of vertebral misalignment etc and the sp. manipulation itself?
4. what qualifies you to teach others about self adjustment?
5. do you even know what sp. mani. is?
freshprincechiro 3 years ago
You've been avoiding my question, what about the people teaching how to do forceful adjustments that can hurt?
My background is informal but extensive. I spent three years studying from a 30 year chiropractor. He uses this technique, it works for him. Did you read anything of mine? My bio etc? it's on my blog. It's hard to list my areas of study from biochemistry and nutrition to teaching yoga for thirty years. I'm qualified to teach this because I have, to hundreds of people.
Kalidasab 3 years ago
Then what is your investment in making me wrong? There are hundreds of videos teaching people how to do thrusting manipulations. The only time I was ever hurt with body work was a thrust to my lower back, crippled me for three weeks! These are so gentle that you'd have to have CIPA (feel no pain) to cause damage. And again, It is a self applied technique akin to massaging your own neck or back. There's even a yoga pose for the sacrum.
Kalidasab 3 years ago
you keep saying since it didnt hurt my "patients", it was fine. feeling good and getting a right correction is a whole different story.
AKK !! ONCE AGAIN, IT DOESNT MATTER IF IT IS GENTLE, ROUGH WHATEVER , IF IT DOESNT HAVE A CORRECT LINEARITY OF WHATEVER YOU DO, THERE IS ALWAYS HIGH POSSIBILITY TO MESS SOMEONE UP
freshprincechiro 3 years ago
My goodness, such venom. That's ok, I really don't mind. And, I am not doing anything illegal, do as you think you must. Be sure to report all the other videos that show how to do chiropractic cracking.
I'm teaching people how to take care of themselves, not how to do something illegal to another.
I'll let you in on something. I didn't want to present this for this very reason, people like you. I expect all kinds of hell because of this. But, I had to, too many people will benefit from it.
Kalidasab 3 years ago
NO, ITS NOT A VENOM. what is hard to understand, you are teaching how to "take care" of people by spinal manipulation is ILLEGAL. phone any place you want, it is illegal. BECAUSE IT IS DANGEROUS. how can someone self diagnose and rule out severe pathology (e.g. tumor, vertebral fracture etc) by watching your video, mind you, those pathologies could just present itself as mild back pain too.
spinal manipulation(doesnt even need to be an adj) is A MEDICAL ACT. YOU AINT QAULIFIED FOR THAT
freshprincechiro 3 years ago
anyways, like i said thousand times, you selling people about how to give spinal manipulation is illegal evenif you are chiropractors as only liscenced healthcare providers are only the ones liscensed to do so under the U.S. law.
bottom line is this: i dont care how great your technique is, how effective it is (which would be not, i am sure by talking to you), what you do is illegal. STOP SELLING THIS or I WILL REPORT YOU TO THE PROPER AUTHORITY.
freshprincechiro 3 years ago
get some sleep
dougem9er 3 years ago
dougm9er, it's comments like your previous one that I will remove, and from now on, report. It's in the YouTube tos that I don't have to put up with nasty comments, so in the future I will be reporting harassment. Feel free to offer criticism...that actually helps.
Is it really necessary to express your anger in such a nasty way on a public forum like this? You only demonstrate to the world that 21 is the new 13.
Kalidasab 3 years ago
Gosh, now you have made me curious, what did the little critter say? Don't forget to watch the youtube video link I have provided.
Medic88888 3 years ago
Just some obscenity. I just don't understand that kind of behavior, I guess I'm getting old.
I missed your link, could you re-post it?
Kalidasab 3 years ago
as a chiropractic student, i can GARANTEE that you can't ADJUST yourself or someone else without proper training. sure, you can make "popping" or "cracking" sound by MANIPULATING the spine, but i gotta tell you that THAT IS NOT WHAT CHIROPRACTIC IS.
freshprincechiro 3 years ago
#1. chiropractic is about relieving abnormal nerve pressure impinged in inter vertebral foramen. Thus, in order to deliver an ADJUSTMENT, you need to be able to DIAGNOSE and deliver your ADJUSTMENT to a specific spot.
freshprincechiro 3 years ago
#2. spinal manupulation is only to be delievered by DOCTORS OF CHIROPRACTIC or healthcare professinals with 300 hrs training which is not merely enough. thus, you advertising your videotape about self manipulation can surely put your butt into jail.
freshprincechiro 3 years ago
at the end of the day, you can crack , whack your own spine, or someone else improperly. but it is not even close to the real adjustment. just remember that spinal adjustment is not a play, but a medical act. you can severely injure yourself or other if you dont know what you are doing.
once again, i am fine with what you do even if it is illegal. just dont offer your service being an alternative choice of seeing a chiropractor because it's straight b.s.
freshprincechiro 3 years ago
The thing I seem to have the most trouble getting across is that this technique does not involve cracking at all. Spinal adjustments do involve a pressure, but only four ounces, and it does give relief. I just can't emphasis enough how gentle this is. Chiropractors typically use way too much force (not all). Four ounces for a vertebra, a little more for a rib and no thrust. How is someone going to hurt themselves?
Kalidasab 3 years ago
because amount of force or cavitation sound does not equate to the impact to the body. it is the direcion of the force that matter the most. i garantee you can mess someone up with you thrust someone's C1 in wrong direction or any rib for that matter. the feeling you get after the cracking sound is nothing more than beta endolphin release that makes you feel good temporarily, nothing more. it seems so clear to me that YOU HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO KNOWLEDGE WHEN IT COMES TO HUMAN BODY. thats scary.
freshprincechiro 3 years ago
There is no thrust. There is no crack. No pain, No fear. Do it yourself. Only a chiropractor could have a problem with it.
I also teach how to gently adjust others. Chiropractors are the hardest to teach, they keep wanting to thrust. Even when I adjust them, they want me to thrust. But, there is no thrust, and they acknowledge relief.
Did I say it enough times? THERE IS NO TRUST. Don't like to yell, but it seems to be hard to hear.
No thrust...Really.
Kalidasab 3 years ago
i practice solely gonstead technique. and i can reason everything i do (the vertebrae i chose, the line of correction etc). plus, i can scientifically explain and prove what subluxation or nerve pressure is and how my adjustment can relieve such phenomenon and how it can better human body.
i would love to hear from you sceintific reasoning behind of what you do and why you do. if you can't explain whatever you do and why you do so, you aint better than a shaman. once again, THIS IS NOT A PLAY
freshprincechiro 3 years ago
And, there are people who say there is no such thing as a subluxation, with lots of scientific proof. The Chinese have been adjusting for thousands of years. The proof is in the relief. I have adjusted people under a chiropractor's supervision and they were adjusted without a thrust or a crack. So again, how can it hurt if there is no thrust or crack?
You are right about one thing, I haven't communicated how it works very well. I hope to make a video or two soon to rectify that.
Kalidasab 3 years ago
HAHAHA. the reason why people say that subluxation doesnt exist is because it is impossible to prove quantum biomechanics of subluxation of human body with current technology. it would require an advanced technology to prove that.even if you want to do a double blinded study of subluxation adjustment. how can you contrast adjustment and psuedo-adjustment ? then again, i dont have to explain any of this to you as you have not proved yourself having ANY VALID BACKGROUND to comprehend any.
freshprincechiro 3 years ago
So, my proof is that people feel better. They can turn their head where they couldn't before. They can walk when they couldn't before. They can take a deep breath where they couldn't before. Man, you are tough, what do you want? It hurts, it feels better! Can't hurt yourself with four ounces of pressure except maybe on your eyeball. Nope, weighed something and put 4 oz of pressure on my eye, didn't hurt! To anyone but a chiro, this is a no-brainer.
Kalidasab 3 years ago
proof is result? hardly! if i blindfold myself and swing a golf course and hit something, and the ball went far, does this make me a pro golfer? no ! for one, you can't always garantee you'd hit the ball blindfolded, two, you can't be compared to pro golfer just because you can hit a golf ball.
freshprincechiro 3 years ago
A lot of people would disagree with you. I only have a few testimonials on the sales page. Here's the lastest:
God bless you a thousand-fold for your immensely liberating and helpful book~! Really, this information is priceless- thank you for being an open channel and a giving heart. This book was an answer to a deep prayer I put out to receive a way to help myself feel better, without the need to depend on others.....
MR
Kalidasab 3 years ago
testimonials are just pure balony as you can just filter out ones you like and put it as testimonials. so, no, at this point, i really gotta assume that you even lack some common knowledge.
my gosh, i gave you a easy metaphor you could follow and you still dont get it.
your 2nd paragraph makes no sense whatsoever
once, again, bottom line, is result is not what should matter, show me the methodology that is logical, show me that your "adj" is good as a chiro's then i will shut up
freshprincechiro 3 years ago
Yea, some people don't care for testimonials, but I do. This is someone who was obviously helped with this technique. She was helped, what's wrong with that?
I get your metaphor. I once got my neck adjusted when my martial arts instructor hit me. So, what?
The second paragraph is the testimonial. Pretty hard to misunderstand.
I don't care if you shut up or not, I enjoy this. I just need a model and I will do a demo video.
Kalidasab 3 years ago
Results don't matter? That doesn't make sense. Results are EVERYTHING. That is why people pay money to go to a chiropractor, a doctor, a neurosurgeon, a cosmetic surgeon; RESULTS! If results don't matter then what does? If you lift heavy weights every day for several months and STILL can't get bigger or stronger, then you'll probably STOP lifting weights! Everything people do, is for the results at the end!
inirtrini 3 years ago
result here we are talking about is not PHYSIOGICAL RESULT, just a psychological effect. thus, your argument is invalid. you go to see a doctor to get well and get REAL result, not just the sensation that your body is well.
freshprincechiro 3 years ago
and for something to be defined to be as an adjustment, it doesn't need to "crack" or need to have thrust, there are many chiropractic techniques that doesnt crack or thrust but effet humanbody. SOT is a good example. anything that is aimed to influence human body by the vertebral columns is defined as spinal MANIPULATION by LAW. thus, yes, you can mess up someone's body even if it doesn't crack or have thrust, like i said, any wrong line of correction(even w/o thrust) can damage a body
freshprincechiro 3 years ago
I said that because you keep going on about thrusting. Obviously you can do an adjustment without cracking, that's what the technique I teach is all about.
Is cranial sacral technique illegal for non-chiropractors? How about TBM? Network chiropractic? Really, I am curious. They all claim to adjust something, and probably do.
Kalidasab 3 years ago
Technically, TBM, whatever, those are realms that are only to be explored by chiropractors for the reason i said. or other healthcare professionals.
you dont get me, even if you wanna do cavitation free adjustment, you still need a DC, MD, DPT, DO etc liscence.
what is so hard to understand? anything aimed to cure body using spine is spinal manipulation(not adj), and YOU ARE NOT PREVILLAGED TO USE IT.
IF YOU REALLY WANNA KEEP DOING WHAT YOU DO, GO TO A CHIROPRACTIC SCHOOL, GEEZ
freshprincechiro 3 years ago
I'm not adjusting anyone, I'm showing them how to get relief from back, neck, hip and rib pain. What's illegal about someone massaging their own neck? That's what it amounts to. It's called SELF Adjusting Technique.
Kalidasab 3 years ago
you have adjusted someone under a chiro supervision? correction. you have MANIPULATED someone under chiro supervision. that's illegal. like i said, you need to be a chiro or a healthcare PRACTITIONER to give an adjustment. i can report YOU and your chiropractor and throw both of you to jail.
what chineses do, (it's call tuina by the way) is manipulation and is not chiropractic adjustment, as it doesnt aim to correct the nervous system or subluxation.
freshprincechiro 3 years ago
Because you don't aim to do correct the nervous system or subluxation it isn't an adjustment? I don't know how many necks I have fixed because some massage therapist knocked something out of alignment. I have experimented on my own body to see if I could hurt myself, even doing the wrong direction on a rotated vertebra I couldn't hurt myself. You will never be convinced unless you experience it yourself, this is obvious. Even then, you will have to defend your profession.
Kalidasab 3 years ago
phew. alright. let me try again.IF IT ISNT to correct the nervous system isnt adjustment. for a vertebra to rotate, it needs to go posterior and rotate to either side, by doing so, there'd be swelling ligament near IVF, then the IgG and other immunoglobins would create toxicity in lig itself, hence disturbing nerve flow. this is not very detailed but you not being able to link rotated vertebra with nerve flow shows. YOU NEED MORE SCHOOLING AND ARENT READY TO TOUCH SOMEONE'S BACK.YOU ARE NOT A DC
freshprincechiro 3 years ago
Please rephrase this: IF IT ISNT to correct the nervous system isnt adjustment
Sounds like it isn't an adjustment if you aren't correcting the nervous system???
All of those chemical processes take time. Maybe not much, but minutes to days. What if the problem were corrected before inflammation had a chance to set in? I was walking with a chiropractor when he stepped in a hole. He twisted his ankle something terrible. I quickly adjusted it, he had no swelling or other problem, walked fine.
Kalidasab 3 years ago
Sounds like it isn't an adjustment if you aren't correcting the nervous system???
-YES,it isnt. now, do not equate spinal manipulation with adj. adj. is something only chiropractors can give. sp. manipulation is sth even PT or DO do.
- chiropractic adjustment can be given before there are swelling. all i did before, was to tell how nerve could get the toxicity by soft tissue swelling. acute situation explanation needs bit more addition. oh, you adjusted an ankle,what was the listing?
freshprincechiro 3 years ago
Wake up idiot. How are the spinal manipulations of PT and DO different to adjustments? No really, can you answer that?
Medic88888 3 years ago
I am sorry that you are getting so many negative comments... I don't think a lot of people realize the value of learning how to be their own chiropractor... truly, it is simple enough that any layperson can learn how to do it, but a GOOD sense of judgement is required! There is a very real danger of an amateur "chiropractor" giving someone an adjustment and ending up fracturing or breaking their back! Nevertheless, this is SUCH an invaluable skill to learn and I commend you.
inirtrini 3 years ago
Thanks inirtrini, I appreciate your thoughts. I actually don't mind the negative comments, they tell me where I fall short communicating about this technique. I have been realizing that people don't understand how Self Adjusting Technique works. So, I have a video planned that explains that.
Interesting that many videos that show up next to mine are showing cracking techniques that really can hurt people. I can't imagine how someone would hurt themselves with my methods.
Kalidasab 3 years ago
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shumada81 3 years ago
You obviously don't know what you're talking about! You wouldn't believe how gentle this technique is. There is absolutely no way to hurt yourself in anyway at all, much less 'fracture' your back. You're the fool! You obviously didn't even read the sale letter!
barrbranielson5250 3 years ago
Your a crook
auzzman777 3 years ago
Upon examining your profile I find that you support chiropractors who will lose money because now there is something people can do for themselves. I steel from chiropractors? I don't find any info about you though. Look at my site and you will find my address and phone number. I answer too. I also find that you are 18 years old, hardly old enough to be judging something you know nothing about. Finally, I leave you with this thought Matthew 7:1.
Kalidasab 3 years ago
lol, i saw your comment and thought that was funny as hell/. Yeah I wouldn't trust his shiesty ass either.
dirtybutter 3 years ago
Thanks for the reply. In my last comment I just listed a couple of conditions off of the top of my head that could complicate an adjustment (however gentle it may be) although there are countless more. When you post your demostration video I would appreciate it if you could show an upper cervical/occiput adjustment or a sacral adjustment...thanks.
102034 3 years ago
I'll see what I can do. I have to confess though, the occipital adjustment is something that really needs something external. But, if the fight/flight response is released then the occiput usually releases by itself. I have something in the works to show how to do that.
Kalidasab 3 years ago
So what happes if someone has a serious medical condition that would contraindicate an adjustment such as high blood pressure or atherosclerosis of the carotid or vertebral arteries? Does your book teach clinical judgement as well?...but on the other hand...if people use your technique and stroke themselves out, at least they will get their $37 back. I do think that your heart is in the right place; I just hope that you understand the possible outcomes for your patrons...best of luck...
102034 3 years ago
I appreciate your concern. The techniques are so gentle that it is impossible to cause the kind of problems you describe. I have consulted with medical doctors and chiropractors extensively. There is absolutely no forcing involved. It is more gentle than a Swedish massage. No fast movements, cracking, pushing, jerking, pain etc. I'll do a demo video soon so you can see.
Can anyone think of any other condition I should consult about?
Kalidasab 3 years ago
I have heard & read that high blood pressure or atherosclerotic arteries aren't contraindications 2 chirop adjustments. The quacks will try to click anything & everything they can as long as the money is paid. By all accounts, clinical judgement isn't taught 2 them and is certainly not used by them. GPA of 2.5 is required in a community college 2 get in2 chiropractic-what a joke. Having said that, some1 can gain as much knowledge in a weekend course as they have doing their fake 'doctorate'.
Medic88888 3 years ago
...you're a medic?...too bad your opinion doesn't count :-)
Oh...by the way, I thought that I was mannerly in my previous posts. I'm not sure why you have such a problem with chiropractors. Orthopedic tests are used to determine whether or not an adjustment is a good idea. Every profession has its share of incompetent people..and anyone who is working specifically for the money obviously has poor ethics. I'm sure you'll have a wonderful response to this post...try to make it educated next time.
102034 3 years ago
Sorry, if you think I was getting personal in my previous response. Sometimes I get carried away but as you can see, none of what I said was directed at you.
And you're right, at the end of the day, my opinion doesn't count for much. Luckily it doesn't have to. The opinions of those that do matter however, are being heard and will no doubt spell the beginning of the end of the quack profession. If you're not aware of it already, google 'Nette vs Stiles lawsuit' - it's about time...
Medic88888 3 years ago
Palmer was called a quack. This technique works, at least for me. I was able to adjust myself minutes after downloading this wonderful, life saving book. Best money I ever spent, the worst I ever spent was the thousands I spent on chiropractors!
kbrown5250 3 years ago
It's impossible to adjust oneself. You managed to stretch a few things that alleviated some of your symptoms, but you didn't adjust anything.
trulyheaven777 3 years ago
high blood pressue or atherosclerotic arteries unless it is CVA that could be compromised, is not a contrindication. why? because the adjustment does not compromise the vascular system much at all.
go learn more before you attack my profession
freshprincechiro 3 years ago
You are more dangerous than a chiropractor
kevinharriet12 3 years ago
What do you mean? Have you tried it?
The techniques are so gentle that you could do them backwards and it wouldn't hurt. There's no forcing involved.
Kalidasab 3 years ago
Hey, thanks for telling me about my profile. I'm not trying to fool anyone, the system put that photo up.
Who cares about the rating? There haven't been enough views to get much response. I haven't even voted for it!
Everyone has choice, chirobobek. They can chose to check out my offer or not.
Kalidasab 3 years ago
You can't fool people these days that easily. The public is getting smarter. They see that what you selling is no comparison to a chiropractic adjustment hence the 1 star rating you got. Also the person on your profile picture is the same one giving the testimonial...
chirobobek 3 years ago
Surprise! Im not a chiropractor. And you are not a healer! The testimonial is useless as well. Send me some research and i'll consider stoping my histerical laughing! There is NO such a thing as self adjusting. All you are doing is moving joints that are already hypermobile. Good luck when your customers are suing you for getting arthritis!
chirobobek 3 years ago
I think you are the biggest joke on Youtube. What you call "adjusting yourself" is merely a crude manipulation. There is no way you can figure out which spinal segmants are hypo or hyper mobile without proper palpation. There is no way you are going to tell me that what you think you developed can be a substitute for specific scientific chiropractic adjustments. Get real people! There is no way you can learn something a university teaches in 4 years from one book. Go to a REAL chiropractor!
chirobobek 3 years ago
What a surprise, a chiropractor who doesn't want people to be able to adjust themselves. You obviously didn't read the testimonials, or the book. So, I thought I would post a video testimonial for you all.
Thanks, chirobobek!
Kalidasab 3 years ago
Surprise! Im not a chiropractor. And you are not a healer! The testimonial is useless as well. Send me some research and i'll consider stoping my histerical laughing! There is NO such a thing as self adjusting. All you are doing is moving joints that are already hypermobile. Good luck when your customers are suing you for getting arthritis!
chirobobek 3 years ago
This is a new method that has a very simple proof. Try it. If it doesn't work, you get your money back. 90 day unconditional guarantee. What else do you want? I even make myself available to help people with it if I can.
I worked with doctors and chiropractors for over ten years to develop a safe and effective way to adjust yourself.
Enjoy your laugh, chirobobek, I don't mind. I'm just happy that people can now take care of themselves.
Kalidasab 3 years ago
You can't fool people these days that easily. The public is getting smarter. They see that what you selling is no comparison to a chiropractic adjustment hence the 1 star rating you got. Also the person on your profile picture is the same one giving the testimonial...
chirobobek 3 years ago
Hey, thanks for telling me about my profile. I'm not trying to fool anyone, the system put that photo up.
Who cares about the rating? There haven't been enough views to get much response. I haven't even voted for it!
Everyone has choice, chirobobek. They can chose to check out my offer or not.
Kalidasab 3 years ago
Actually, there is such a thing as self-adjusting. I discovered it a year ago and absolutely loved it. It's safer than having someone *crack* your back, in my opinion. Here's a basic example: When you do Yoga stretching, the elongation of your body along your spine in many positions will actually decompress your spine, sometimes "popping" it gently in the right direction. It's a really wonderful sensation, leaving you feeling taller (literally!), and eliminating back pain caused by decompression
inirtrini 3 years ago
Hmm, actually, I think chiropractic & chiropractors are the biggest jokes on youtube. I wasn't aware they taught chiropractic at university, I thought it was only at schools. As far as I am aware, 'scientific' and 'chiropractic' don't go well in the same sentence. You ask for research backing up self adjusting, since when has chiropractic been evidence-based? Gosh, over 100 years in existence and not one shred of evidence backing up 'adjustments' the founding principle of the whole quakery.
Medic88888 3 years ago
I used to have serious spinal compression caused by having 1 leg slightly shorter than the other while i was growing up. Going to a chiropractor was such a wonderful experience; my spine decompressed, I gained about 1-1/2" in height, and the excruciating back pain that would leave me lying on the floor, writing in pain, was gone! Chiropractic care is a much more natural alternative to back surgery, yet many "docors" speak against it (doctors make money prescribing medicine) so they never try.
inirtrini 3 years ago
Hi inirtrini, I have 2 take u @ ur word regarding ur chiro experience. Yes, I think anything is more natural than surgery, which should only b considered as a last resort. However, people generally need 2 b more aware of the dangers involved in the claims that chiros make about being able 2 heal real illnesses. Yes, they have their place in the treatment of low back pain, but this differs very little from PT & DO treatment. I hope u have ceased ur chiro treatment now that ur back is better.
Medic88888 3 years ago
Yes, I have. I agree, chiropractic adjustments that are not necessary can only do more harm than good, because there is such a thing as decompressing the spine too much, pulling dangerously at the discs between vertebrae. However, sometimes my back gets twisted in the wrong direction (from slouching or waking up in a bad position in bed, etc.), and to correct these I'll stretch, bend, and rotate my body (sometimes popping it in the process) until my spine feels well again.
inirtrini 3 years ago
Tell me Inirtrini, do you think, from what you know about the subject, that chiropractic can treat other issues besides back pain. Considering the fact, that you have done what a PT/osteo/chiro would do for you but you have done yourself on your back. And if so, what other things do you think they can treat, off the top of your head?
Medic88888 3 years ago
more harm than good ? what basis are you saying this ? decompressing the spine too much ? huh ? what the hell do you mean? you are not making any sense at all.
when your back gets "twisted" in wrong side, it stretches ligament, muscles, nerves in wrong direction thus giving u discomfort. but the thing is in order to have a vetebra to be rotated, it needs to go posterior first. how are you gonna fix that by yourself ?
your "feel good" is nothing more than temp endolphin relsease
freshprincechiro 3 years ago
oh? chiropractic is the bigest joke? chiropractic are taught in univ. as well. for example, UBCC teaches chiropractic.
scientific and chiropractic dont go together ? what have you been smokin? for instance, dr.dikholst just came up with double blinded study that c1 adj actually lowers abnormal b.p.
the thing is medic 8888, it doesnt matter what you say. chiropractic works and i see clinical results everyday.
pls feel free to disagree and yap all you want. but before that, go learn more.
freshprincechiro 3 years ago 2
Hi freshprincechiro. Dr Dikholst? Sorry, I couldn't find anything on the internet about it. Which article and journal? Or are you making it up?
Are there any other universities that teach chiro? Is UBCC the University of British Columbia something or other?
Medic88888 3 years ago
Oh by the way freshprincechiro, I try not to waste my time reading rubbish research so I trust this brilliant paper you speak of is pretty good. I look forward to reading the research you use to justify what you do.
Medic88888 3 years ago