I don't see how freewill could possibly exist at all, since it makes no sense. And even if freewill did exist, it still doesn't explain squat. God can't sin yet he has freewill, and dead christians in heaven also can't sin, but have freewill. This proves that being able to sin is not required for freewill, so your argument is flawed. And also if you have to be able to sin why didn't God just make a world where we have freewill, and don't sin, instead of one where we have freewill, and do?
Saying that "God didn't create evil but allowed/defined freewill and freewill did," is like saying "The watch maker isn't responsible for the watch telling the wrong time the wrong sized gear placed in the watch is."
To say "God defined evil and didn't create it," (and by association the rest of this little tirade) is playing a sad word game trying to justify the existence of evil in the presence of your idea of a absolutely good deity and unjustified deity.
God only defined evil. He did not create it. Human kind was given free will to do good or evil.
God created time and is not bound by it. Humans exist in time and space, God is not limited by the things he creates. It would seem that he could travel to any and all point in time and space, and to see the present past and future that would be a requirement. The earth in not in the same place in the universe one second to the next.
Eating the apple is symbolic of breaking the rules and people seperating themselves from God, but if God knows everything, he knew at the time that they would disobey him, yet he acted angry when he found out! In fact, where was he when all this happened? He's supposed to be omnipresent too?
And if he's truely omniscient, he must know what decisions we are going to make before we do ourselves!
If God knows that someone will not get into Heaven, then what hope do they have?
How do you reconcile God with the existence of evil? According to Saint Augustine: "Since God is the highest good, He would not allow any evil to exist in His works, unless His omnipotence and goodness were such as to bring good even out of evil."
The answer to this problem is easy. Atheist must proove that there is NO OTHER reason why God is not willing to solve evil than the no existence of God (or that god is not good).
Christianity say that there is other reason: human freedom. Because this cannot be prooved, this problem is not a proof against god´s existence. In fact, the problem is a tautology. To proove that there is no other reason, you must proove that either God is not good or do not exist, which is the same result.
I don't see how freewill could possibly exist at all, since it makes no sense. And even if freewill did exist, it still doesn't explain squat. God can't sin yet he has freewill, and dead christians in heaven also can't sin, but have freewill. This proves that being able to sin is not required for freewill, so your argument is flawed. And also if you have to be able to sin why didn't God just make a world where we have freewill, and don't sin, instead of one where we have freewill, and do?
Aphex217Twin 2 years ago
to - themanofearth - how would you have done it? i am truly interested to knwo. thank you.
singsangvideo 2 years ago
Saying that "God didn't create evil but allowed/defined freewill and freewill did," is like saying "The watch maker isn't responsible for the watch telling the wrong time the wrong sized gear placed in the watch is."
To say "God defined evil and didn't create it," (and by association the rest of this little tirade) is playing a sad word game trying to justify the existence of evil in the presence of your idea of a absolutely good deity and unjustified deity.
themanofearth 2 years ago
God only defined evil. He did not create it. Human kind was given free will to do good or evil.
God created time and is not bound by it. Humans exist in time and space, God is not limited by the things he creates. It would seem that he could travel to any and all point in time and space, and to see the present past and future that would be a requirement. The earth in not in the same place in the universe one second to the next.
thegodplace 2 years ago
Eating the apple is symbolic of breaking the rules and people seperating themselves from God, but if God knows everything, he knew at the time that they would disobey him, yet he acted angry when he found out! In fact, where was he when all this happened? He's supposed to be omnipresent too?
And if he's truely omniscient, he must know what decisions we are going to make before we do ourselves!
If God knows that someone will not get into Heaven, then what hope do they have?
Bowmaj21 3 years ago
How do you reconcile God with the existence of evil? According to Saint Augustine: "Since God is the highest good, He would not allow any evil to exist in His works, unless His omnipotence and goodness were such as to bring good even out of evil."
sychkid 3 years ago
What is evil? According to Saint Augustine, evil is the privation of a due good.
sychkid 3 years ago
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The answer to this problem is easy. Atheist must proove that there is NO OTHER reason why God is not willing to solve evil than the no existence of God (or that god is not good).
Christianity say that there is other reason: human freedom. Because this cannot be prooved, this problem is not a proof against god´s existence. In fact, the problem is a tautology. To proove that there is no other reason, you must proove that either God is not good or do not exist, which is the same result.
RaspatanOriginalPapa 3 years ago