A straw man is a component of an argument and is an informal fallacy based on misrepresentation of an opponent's position.[1] To "attack a straw man" is to create the illusion of having refuted a proposition by replacing it with a superficially similar yet unequivalent proposition (the "straw man"), and refuting it, without ever having actually refuted the original position.
@nelson3300 Do you know that Christianity is correct? The world around us reveals that G-d DOES exist, and the historical evidence reveals that Jesus Christ really did come to this earth and there is overwhelming evidence that Jesus Christ really did physically rise from the dead. Jesus is coming again and the signs of the end times that were foretold in the Bible are coming to pass.
Okay, why do democrats make derogatory remarks against blacks that don't share THEIR political views? And why are they called sellouts? Whites, hispanics, and Asians vote for various parties, so why should blacks be scrutinized when they do?????? Dems want to keep blacks controlled by government programs so they'll have little ambition to bettet themselves. And that's a form of modern-day slavery.
So what will they be called if they sell out there religion, And vote for this clown after he trying to force his baby killing pills on them via there church?
haa haa..... Exactly what happens when talking to most liberals. Experienced it many times. They can't think past the liberal false propaganda against conservatives to get at any actual facts.
Forget White Guilt, it's about Black Brainwashing. Try growing up as a young black person and having a fiscally conservative views, try voting for a republican and see how black people will treat you.
Now I'm not black, but it's something I hear about every day
@Redeye1524 Any black person that's NOT a ghetto tool- or drug dealing nigger you feel uncomfortable around. Liberal VERMIN LIKE YOU think blacks don't have the brain capacity to think, rationalize, or reason right from wrong. You do know the difference between NIGGERS & Black people don't you? I'm sure you don't..You are a FUCKING RACIST MAGGOT LIBERAL - Now do educated free thinking blacks a favor, and kill yourself..
Republicans have always pushed for equal rights and was founded to abolish slavery.
The Democrats on the other hand fought to keep slavery and after it was abolished and few black people were elected to congress as Republicans,the democrats founded the KKK to
intimidate and control blacks.Which they did for almost 100 years.Now the democrats
use entitlements,welfare and unions to enslave their constituents.
@tonypybus obviously. by sheer numbers, it would've been impossible for him to win otherwise. the black population count in the US is 14%. even if every single black person in the US voted, he could not have won unless more whites voted for him then blacks.
@purplehaze216 You do realize your post is nothing more than my post with some common knowledge details thrown in. The point is, since you didn't get it the first time, for every one uninformed black person who voted for Obama there's 3-4 uninformed white folks that helped elect him. Do you follow?
The reason most white people voted for him was because of white guilt... they felt it their obligation to bring what they considered 'positive' change to government. he had a vague stance on nearly every issue, usually whatever appealed to the people the most.
This is the modern-day, liberal woman thought process. Totally insane and convoluted. Completely contradictory and viciously hate-filled. This is the exact type of mind-numbed voter that pushed a nut like Adolf Hitler into power in the 1930's...because they "feel." They don't use logic, common sense or grey matter in the least bit. Everyone is a fascist and a racist as far as they're concerned. The trouble with this group of insane zombies is that they number in the legions now in the workplace.
@memama2 No, I have not. I've tried to avoid Oprah as much as possible over the last 25 years because I have watched her frequently enough to be totally amazed at the absolute vacuousness of the intellect that the liberal media swoons over.I've watched Oprah listen to common sense men from the Center for Disease Control tell her that in this world there are most certainly evil people and they gave her examples.She sat there like a stump after that and refused to believe in the concept of it all.
@memama2 Well, I just watched a video of that title here on Youtube, (even though there are several video's here of that same title,) and this one was taught by Crestwood NewLife Church. I wish to God that strong, black men like this were at the fore-front of our society. He is a breath of sweet, fresh air if I ever inhaled! You'll never hear him pushed in the left-wing media. There's just no way to argue with a strong man who preaches fact and speaks nothing but powerful truth! I love it!
MrSchultzstaffel That was the video I liked! Posted by Crestwood New Life. Can you imagine how many people would stop listening to Oprah if that video was played before her "Master Life Class" she is now Miss-teaching her sheeple! If Oprah's "mind" could control the Universe and her godless gurus were real? Oprah would be a steady 99lbs.(her fondest wish) and would have brought back The Chicago Olympic Games! That she did not? Proves how fake her gurus and guidance is today.
@memama2 Well we would like to think that, but how many times have you seen liberal women totally reject the truth; not because it wasn't true, but because they hate the truth with such a passion? They want to be right more than anything else in the world, so they arrogantly reject the truth because let's face it; nobody on Earth could possibly be so stupid as to buy into Oprah's liberal dribble. Oprah was chosen to do the job she does because of her amazing lack of any common sense to speak of.
MrSchultzstaffel I knew of a women(in my city) who watched Oprah promote the fake book: "The Secret". This womne owned a teaching school for skin/makeup. Afterwards, this women was the #1 student of Oprah and the demonic author "Rhonda B". who wrote "The Secret". She lived and breathed Oprah's idiot words. Then she got diagnosed with cancer. The women redoubled her effort to show others how "The Secret" worked! She died leaving a huge half finished mansion and 2 adopted orphans
@memama2 Michael Jackson's life was an unthinkable nightmare just behind the scenes. Drug use, chronic alcohol abuse, child abuse, pay-off's to perhaps people all over the world to keep em' quiet about it...the list goes on. These people are painted by the media as if they have it all and they are living the life, but could it be much different with Oprah? Just under the surface, the "Queen of the World" is undoubtedly presiding over a glorified trash heap. An empty ideology of no value at all.
your argument looses all credibility when you claim that the "conservative movement" championed civil rights. It was socially progressive republicans, not social conservatives. As a result of the civil rights movement, social conservative democrats realligned themselves with the republicans afterwards. When Strom Thurmond changes parties you know something big just changed in the party! Its rather diabolical for you to attempt to rewrite history to take credit for another ideology's success!
@odog502 Strom Thurmond? Shit, just look at Charlton Heston! Marched with MLK himself AND supported our Righteous 2nd Amendment! No credit has been stolen; the video is quite astute.
@LupineFreon For that to be true then you have to believe that after the 1960's the south went from being liberal to conservative, and likewise everyone in the north went from being conservative to liberal. Please. They just realigned to different parties. The south has always been the stronghold of conservatism and the north the stronghold of liberalism. Where was the strongest opposition to the civil rights movement? That's right, the south.
@LupineFreon Furthermore, just look at the voting record. An overwhelming majority of the NORTHERN democrats AND republicans voted FOR the civil rights act. An overwhelming majority of the SOUTHERN democrats and republicans voted AGAINTS the civil rights act. Again, the north being the longtime stronghold for progressivism, the south being the longtime stronghold for conservatism.
@odog502 The whole dogma derived from the north vs. south thing, with its wanting disdain that festers its heady nostalgia for the days of the civil rights era, looking for racist villains in the empty shadows of our present day, seems to bear an endemic paucity of appreciation for the differences between CAUSATION and CORRELATION. What the South WAS informs little of what it IS. People STILL believe (because of the telyouvision shows, of course) that that slow drawl denotes a lack of intellect.
@LupineFreon You're deflecting. I spoke nothing of racism. I can use your same words to support my stance "What the Republican Party WAS informs little of what it IS". You think that just because the party's name is the same that the philosophy is the same? You think more likely that entire region's culture changed than the membership of a political party? In the 1860's the south was the home of social conservatism, and 100 years later it still was. Yet 50 years later that is no longer true?
@odog502 I guess the point is moot now. Party loyalty is dead for me. Members from both parties in the senate voted for the National Defense Authorization Act.
Some of us know that when something is "bi-partisan" it invariably means the government is ganging up against the people.
Here is a fact, majority of black people have conservative leaning views, yet vote for the left. I am black and I am liberal, but it seems like black conservatives are getting more animosity from black people and not liberals (since they really are conservative). It is not surprising. Black people as a whole tend to be very religious, I'm an atheist, a plus one for being socially conservative more so. So, yes stereotypes are never always completely true, meet new people and open your mind.
I grew up in the ultra democratic area of San Francisco. I'm Asian Indian. I still experienced prejudice at stores, in offices, and in school by the SAME liberal, hippie, tree hugging, jungle loving, occultist, trailer trash, leftist hypocrites who "claim" to support diversity when they REALLY want socialism, immorality, and perversion like Europeans and Canadians. Celebs, democratic politicians, leftist business people, and college deans & administrators are classist money hungry bitches too.
LOL, this is not entirely accurate, because it does not make a distinction between the ORIGINAL GOP (lincoln's party) and the MODERN GOP which was mostly Dixiecrats who defected from the Democratic party in the 60's because they did not like intergration. Which means all the racists ended up being REPUBLICANS! So, when GOP paints its history to make it look like they were progressives who were in favor of civil rights, that's only 50% of the truth. They fail to mention what happened after.
@idangle6 ....its disturbing how dishonest many conservatives are....one of the more blatant is their continued attempt to try to paint MLK as a republican. They know its a lie, but they keep saying it.
@flipgood89 one thing MLK was and we are assured of it, is a born again Christian and a believer in Jesus Christ! He is a brother in the Lord and testified of the grace of God in Jesus Christ!
@GaryLyons ....MLK was a believer in the social justice and using the lord to heal and help others, not divide and judge. That is a big difference from the twisted conservative interpretation of Jesus, thats for sure.
@flipgood89 ..any twisted interpretation of Jesus is wrong, I agree. But it seems like yours is twisted. Jesus and MLK believed and spoke very strongly about helping the weak and poor, but neither condoned a socialist government to do it. They advocated the individual do it, from a free will and love of God and man. Big difference my friend.
@GaryLyons ....THATS BULL.....know the words of MLK and what he championed and believed in, or dont say his name at all. See, you're the type of person I am talking about --- trying to hijack MLK's message and appropriate his legacy, by twisting his words around so he can fit your own ideology. MLK consistently attacked the exploitative nature of capitalism, and was a firm believer in democratic socialism. And ur also saying that jesus didnt believe in a "socialist govt."....lol. Please.
@flipgood89 MLK was a born again believer who had the Spirit of God. So of course he did not espouse mankind putting their trust in a godless, socialist government over the Lord Jesus Christ. MLK knew the truth of Jeremiah 17:5-8. And it is laughable to suggest that Jesus Himself advocated for man made governments to seize wealth from others and create a "social justice" utopia apart from God. For Jesus said He is the bread from heaven and if you feed on Him you will never hunger, spiritually.
@GaryLyons .....you are no religious or true believer in spirit, I am sorry to say. You are a liar, with all due respect. You are blatantly lying about MLK's words and message. I am no theologian, but I can match every quote you can think of, with biblical scriptures that denounce greed and selfishness and promote the well being for all and selflessness. If you are as moral as you say you are, you need to stop lying. You are not being truthful about MLK's beliefs.
@flipgood89 ...I agree with you that God denounces all greed and selfishness, and God will punish all who have money as their god and hoard wealth. But you keep on insisting that a godless, socialist government is what God and MLK wanted. In this case, you are the liar my friend.
@GaryLyons ....where are you getting this assumption that "a socialist govt" is Godless? capitalism is a man made economic environment that has put trillions in the hands of the few, thru exploitation, while hundreds of millions of people are either struggling, starving, or completely destitute. Ur telling me thats what Jesus wants, and not socialism where everyone's humanity is honored and valued??....and yes, I know MLK's words, I have read his books and listened to his speeches.
@flipgood89 ...just look at today's socialists. They are primarily godless, and the last thing they do is value humanity. No one who values humanity advocates the legal murder & holocaust of the unborn, like 99.9% of today's socialists do. Socialists simply want power for themselves and they feed on people's emotions for social justice to obtain this power. No wonder God says in Psalm 118 - "It is better to put your trust in God than in man." MLk agreed and Jesus stressed this fact often.
@GaryLyons ....who exactly are "today's socialists"??....you have constructed this "socialist" in ur head with no rhyme or reason, similar to how you created this idea that MLK didnt believe in socialism. The whole idea of socialism is to put power in the hands of all men, regardless of wealth, creed, religion, gender, sexual orientation, or color. True socialism is about valuing humanity, peace, and justice for all.
@flipgood89 ..my friend, you have the definition of socialism completely wrong. Socialism puts power in the hand of the government and takes freedom away from the private citizen. I suggest you look the word up in the dictionary. True socialism does not value life (because it supports the murder of little boys and girls in the womb);l it does not value justice at all, it subverts justice to gain power; and true socialism never ends up being peaceful.
@GaryLyons ....lol, socialism, in its true form is government free. Socialism is run by you me, our neighbor, our best friend, and our enemies. Everyone has equal say.
@flipgood89 ...what you are talking about is freedom. And I agree that is the idea of what God wants. God wants people to freely and willingly give of themselves and their resources to help others who are less fortunate. The key here is FREELY and WILLINGLY. What you are not considering about today's socialism is the evil heart of man. Today's socialists are government bureaucrats who want to use the government to enforce social justice by law at the expense of individual freedom.
@GaryLyons ....okay, here is what I dont understand with people like you. So, the economic system of capitalism, where power and wealth is centralized in the hands of the few, while hundreds of millions of people are mistreated and exploited is somehow, "freedom"...but putting more power and wealth into the hands of people whose labor and sweat drive the economy is somehow evil and dangerous?? We are freely and willingly having our wealth extracted from us, by the ruling class. Freedom???
@flipgood89 ~Capitalism is the way better system. The problem with capitalism is not the system itself. It is the sin and greed of the human heart, in that I agree with you. But yes, capitalism is the free system and socialism is not. And you say "but putting more power and wealth in the hands of the people..." ~ with socialism it is the government who takes over and decides who keeps what capital and property, and it is the government who takes over power, they do not give power to the people.
@GaryLyons ....capitalism is not a free system, and the govt. controlling resources is not a free system. If you want true freedom for all, the best way would be socialism, but since your only exposure to socialism, is what conservative talking heads tell you, you're constantly wrong about what a true socialist society would look like. Educate urself, my man.
@flipgood89 ..well tell me if I am wrong. Is not socialism when government controls more of the means of production of goods and services and taxes capital in order to supply government assistance to those who are having a hard time earning their own way? If socialism involves more government control, more government taxes, more government programs. Then I do not want any part of it. The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money.
@GaryLyons ....Thats exactly what socialism is not. You have to understand that other republics have used the idea of "socialism" to form state controlled dictatorships in the name of socialism. They perverted the word socialism. Socialism is the elimination of all institutions, classes, and centralized ownership. It was inspired by Karl Marx who predicted that people would tire of being oppressed and revolt, turning ownership into the hands of everybody, and not the few who oppress. No GOVT!
@flipgood89 ...you said: "Socialism is the elimination of all institutions, classes, and centralized ownership."
Let me ask you this...who does the eliminating of institutions, classes, and centralized ownership? Is it not government? Do they not oversee all of this, and do they not have ultimate authority and power over everyone in this system?
well...but as later was proven... Karl Marx ideas don't actually fit well with human society. We are not all equal, ergo... classes will always exist some way or another. We are social animals, forming hiearchies is natural to us, ergo centralized (pack leader) ownership will always exist some form or another (even if just as a family oriented business spreading outside town).
You can't turn ownership into the hands of everybody, it's not practical. not all fit.
@transtlantic ....hmm. "we are not all equal", huh. So freedom to somebody like you is a conditional thing. See, once confronted, you "freedom" cats truly reveal you want nothing of the sort, when true freedom is suggested. You are all for control, inequality, and oppression ---- just for the "right kind of people"
Freedom was always a conditional thing. Have you forgotten about the Duties? you have rights AND duties. It's part of the social contract. I am all for freedom. You have the right to be free. as long as you comply to social rules. A criminal is not free. A traitor is not free.
I am all for control, who isn't? do you want people to rob your house?
I am all for equality, as long you comply to the laws.
I hate opression. I hate when some people try to opress my right to be free.
@transtlantic ...yeah, but freedom is pliable, and often freedom is a weapon when a society is given the appearance of freedom for only a select few. Of course a society shouldnt have the freedom to promote lawlessness and pain..you know thats not what I am arguing for. But you cant say "I dont want govt. control", when you accept corporatized control. You cant say " I want freedom and no oppression", when you allow discrimination against others based on race, gender, sex, and class background.
@transtlantic ....but discrimination directed at any subset of humans influences and shapes class, so they are all interconnected and explain patterns in our social relationships. I cant get down with your logic, you seem resigned to the idea that "discrimination happens....we cant fight it".....so should we all just commit suicide? Why do we fight and speak out over any injustice? It seems like because discrimination doesnt affect you, personally, it doesnt matter to you.
@transtlantic ....your insults are unnecessary and dont really move me much....so because I missed one apostrophe (can/can't), im stupid now? calm down, fool. Your tone is still somewhat confusing...."we all allow discrimination no matter the system"....says who? What is ur overall point?
@flipgood89 You talk as if being poor is completely outside the control of the impoverished in a capitalist society. This is not true, as people have the FREEDOM to make stupid decisions with their own money; they therefore reap the consequences.
You're NEVER going to eliminate poverty nor people's pain, so the best thing to do is simply not begrudge them their freedom as well.
@LupineFreon ...Freedom is pliable and interpretive meaning that certain people seem to either have a different interpretation of freedom, or they believe that freedom should only be granted to a certain set of individuals. As far as capitalism, wealth is distributed to those from more advantageous class backgrounds. Not merit. All studies reflect this. The elite explains this by painting the non-successful as lazy, so as not to acknowledge a rigged system against those not born into wealth.
@flipgood89 Well, looks like that's where you're wrong. You see, the Constitution has outlined what our natural (or God-given, if you prefer) rights are, and along with the Declaration, establishes that these Rights are unalienable. "Unalienable" is an absolutist term, and is therefore NOT negotiable, and NOT subject to interpretation.
Apparently, there have been LOTS of stupid people who think that makes me "racist"
Why is that, do you suppose? Is it because they ARE stupid, and not faking?
@LupineFreon ...well I dont know what prompted them to call you a racist, so I cant really make any sort of determination one way or the other. What you've just espoused is problematic, and doesnt really address anything. What rights have the constitution granted us? Did we not reject European aristocracies? Well, wealth is centralized among a few set of elites, and the patterns that have emerged are that there is no circulation of mobility. Who ur daddy is means more than hard work and IQ.
@flipgood89 It's not problematic at all. Just look at the Bill of Rights. No problem there...unless you were a dictatorial authoritarian, in which case any aversion to which renders moral inferiority (which would be, um, "problematic" for tyrants)
@LupineFreon ....so i take it you have no problem with corporate oligarchies imposing their will and extracting wealth from the middle class, thru the infestation of corporate monies in our body politic?
@flipgood89 I certainly do have a problem with it. Why else would I oppose a fascist program wrapped in a socialist cloak like Obamacare? And what commonsense person would call the bail-outs of those "too-big-to-fail" corporations anything other than absolutely WRONG?
@LupineFreon ....my opposition to the healthcare bill is how watered down it is....really it went from single payer, to being reduced to a give away for big health insurance. That said, I am curious why you would label it "fascist"...You think making sure all Americans have health care is a bad thing?
@flipgood89 Why not? ANY giving of power to the government should always -ALWAYS!- be met with suspicion at the very LEAST, and absolute defiance and resistance at the very most. I thought that was obvious.
Anyway, *the short version* O-care is meant to cater to Big Pharma, essentially granting a monopoly to all of their medical distribution in conjunction with the FDA and the FTC violating the 1st Amendment Rights of those who offer alternative meds and supplements. Fascism.
@LupineFreon (cont)....your response actually defined a "pliable freedom" insofar as you're quote "you're never going to eliminate poverty"....So in essence, there are a certain people for whom freedom is not accessible...and its true, freedom is not a concrete ideal as freedom for some is at the expense of freedom for others. If we did value freedom, then the right would not ignore inequalities promoted by our structural institutions, enforced by constructs of racism, sexism, class warfare, etc
wow... you really tried to explain what is socialism in less than 500 characters? lolol let's just ignore the THOUSANDS of pages in books about it... LOLOL
there are many types of socialist rule. What you said that it is socialism, can exist in any other form of govt.
if you say "More", that means it is measurable. what is your point of reference? what is "less" starting from what?
ALL types of rule have a problem. not just socialism.
@controversyking You my friend are no conservative,but rather,you are just another WHite racist who does not know what true conservatism means.You use racial sterotypes instead of real facts to make your arguments about social policies.You think in a collectivist,totalitarian manor and not a conservative,individualist manor.
Liberals are the real racists because they don't think Blacks (and other minorities) have the ability to make it without the government. But libs are not bright enough to recognize their innate racism.
I grew up in the super democratic region of the San Francisco area. I'm Asian Indian. I still experienced prejudice in school, at stores, and in job hunting by these SAME liberal, hippy, fruity, wimpy, wiccan, tree hugging, jungle loving, occultist, trailer trash, leftist hypocrites who "claim" that they support women, minorities, and the poor. Celebrities, entertainers, democratic politicians, leftist business people, and college deans & administrators are classist and oppressive bitches too.
I'm a Black Conservative and you ought to hear the crap that come out of left leaning Democrats mouths when they find that out! I can tell them why I'm a Conservative and why I like and dislike what I do but all they do is call names and go off-topic. So much for compassion, LOL!!!!
@AKTIONxSKINS I'm black and I would never associate with an Uncle Tom aka Black conservative. I don't know where you heard that they are educated, because most black conservative Christians aren't. The majority of black professionals tend to lean on the liberal side. As for liberals bashing America, that's not true. They just realize this country isn't as great as conservatives make it out to be.
@SuperBlackChic What makes you assume that all conservative are Christian. That's uneducated on your part. You obviously don't know why most blacks are dems. You're a follower.
@AKTIONxSKINS I find this funny cause this is reverse racism and entirely untrue my family are all well educated. We are african american doctors lawyers dentists and business owners and none of us vote conservative..we look at the tea party and see racism and uninformed logic like what you have said is a baseless claim the vast majority of blacks see republicans as a threat to our advancement as a whole sorry but youre wrong.....
@idangle6 Your family seems to be every profession in the book -- Sure. And you call yourself "educated" when you call the Tea Party racist?? Talk about "uninformed logic", you don't even know what you're talking about. I'm calling you out on bs.
@AKTIONxSKINS hahah sure man my dad owns a healthcare company and a few mc donalds and my grandad is a doctor and a bunch of my cousins are lawyers o and my great great aunt was zora neale hurston you call bullshit why because black people arent successful sorry my family are successful you dont have to believe it im simply saying the tea party does have some racial undertones in it for sure dont kid yourself you for instance are anti muslim..all im saying is were dems man always will be
@idangle6 ... Wait. Your father owns healthcare companies and McDonald's. lmfao what a ridiculous co-investment. That makes no sense. Anyways, If so, what are the names of the healthcare companies and the McDonald stations you claim your father owns?
I am not anti-muslim, I am anti-Islam. It has nothing to do with racial matters. It is about the matters of ideology. But, you wouldn't know that.
I never once said anything against black success, but of course you will play the race-card.
@AKTIONxSKINS lol that ridiculous co investment has us two range rovers and audi and a beemer so shut the fuck up and manna enterprises and compassion healthcare in okatie south carolina all im saying is is that most black people are heavily democratic save a few and the republican party of old is more like the democratic party now and this video is misleading thats all im saying those are two facts with statistics to back them up
@AKTIONxSKINS ha what does of course you will play the race card mean? is that another blatant generalization? implying that we always use the race card see what im getting at and u are for sure anti islam its all over ur channel youre just a toned down bigot
@idangle6 Who am I generalising? I never said all black people use the race card. I said YOU use the race race. And, you proved my point. Oh poor you. I criticise you, and all of a sudden I have something against black people? The only reason you bring up Islam is because you're trying to imply that I am racist. But, you're too dumb to know that Islam is neither a race nor culture of people. I am not against Muslims, I am against Islam. I've already made that clear. Are you just illiterate?
@AKTIONxSKINS see youre first comment for the generalization and i didnt say you were a racist all i said was you were a toned down bigot you didnt read that though so maybe you cant read? my only point is is that you made a generalization about educated black people being republicans and it simply is not true the vast majority of educated blacks are democrats and you cant refute that fact.
@AKTIONxSKINSBlack conservative = educated black man who loves his country.
Liberals disregard the constitution and love to bash America.
I'm not black, but this how my observation sees it.
Generalization 1) Liberals disregard the constitution and love to bash America
Generalization 2) Black conservative is an educated black man who loves his country. (implying that the only black republicans are uneducated or hate the government) like the above liberals
Oh and I would like to thank you all in assisting me in my test. I have been working on an article where common Radical Republicans on the internet are pitted against the greatest political fact checkers in this country. And the fact checking does include a section of Tea Partiests who are also checking your answers. The article should be up in a little bit as it is also entering an undisclosed persons book. Have fun reading it once it is up and you figure out who I really am! :D
I find it a little strange that first you argued that Roosevelt only was elected to 3 terms. Now that you found out I was right and that he was elected to 4 terms you are using childish insults to say it was a fluke.
1. I have never been and never will be on welfare checks.
2. You dont understand the concept of constant dollars
3. All tea partiests are like stubborn little kids who are against change in any way and believe that the rich in the country are the most important
And... Does the "4th term" sound a little strange? Well yeah, because he was the only egocentric scumfuck to dare to cross our founding fathers. And even if you argue that it benefited the country to go for #3 and 4, it didn't. He died during 4, and he shouldn't have even tried.
Finally, my father went to Brown University. Ever heard of it? if you knew anything about American Education you would know that getting a doctorate is a very complicated process, not achievable by the Internet. But you don't, because you live in a shanty leeching off of Uncle Obama's Socialist welfare checks. Enjoy your low-class life with the iMac you stole to write your shitty, thoughtless youtube shittalk.
You can hide behind the 8th grade NYS history textbook sugarcoating a president that cheated and knew about the PH Bombing ahead of time all you want. Just trust me when I say it will not increase your intellectuality in any way, shape, or form. 2nd, cut it out with the fox news shit. I don't watch it any more than any other news channel.
I actually showed my father that comment about FDR SINGLEHANDEDLY ending the Great Depression and he laughed as hard as I did. He has a doctorate in American History. I must credit you with one of the most bullshit comments I've ever read. What are you in 8th grade, or something?
@ShadyRepublican I dont know whats funnier, the fact that you could even argue FDR or that I am arguing with someone who still lives with there father who got an online history degree from fox news for answering the "Question of the day"
And, actually, MLKJR's niece claimed he was Republican, in addition to MLKSR being Republican. Pre-64', blacks were predominantly Republican. And, if he was an "extreme democrat", would he have been as religious as he was?? Just because supported Jesse Jackson, doesn't mean they share identical politcal idealogies. He supported his beliefs on Civil Rights, nothing more.
@ShadyRepublican Oh and both MLK's son nd wife claim he was democrat, as well as Jackson and others of the people close to him. His niece was not nearly as close to him as any of those people, hell Jackson was at the hotel when he was assassinated. You cant pick and choose sources based on your convenience, that is very "Fox News" of you. Check your sources first.
The civil rights movement was not as dependent on the executive branch as you are claiming. Most of the movement was influenced by snowballing effects of civil rights groups. And The New Deal did not solely end the GD. WWII did. It gave more jobs to the jobless than his little plan ever did. Not to mention his Advanced Knowledge of the PH bombing to instigate america's fight.
@ShadyRepublican Hard to decide which to reply to first. I have never heard such ignorant arguments. Kennedy was assassinated because of his views on civil rights. Trying to claim that republicans are solely responsible for Civil Rights is ignorantly wrong. Also, how can you even argue FDR? The only president who was voted into 4 terms, the president solely responsible for pulling us out of the depression?
@baseballboi355 FDR was voted in 3 times, not 4 dude... Seriously you got alot of things wrong... After FDR is also when they made the 2 term limit as well... Just so you know John F Kennedy would be a Republican nowdays...
Oh and I hate to be a pissed off asshole, but FDR's new deal pulled us out of the great depression. So would you rather have us been reduced down to a 3rd world country? I cant even believe some of these are in question by you. This is far beyond radical, this is idiotic.
@baseballboi355 Actually FDR increased the debt of the nation. More so, with the exception of Obama, than any other president in US history. Do more research.
@LukasFyreFury Wrong, Roosevelt took office and actually lowered debt, YOU need to check YOUR facts and do YOUR research! It wont let me post the link of my source but it is an ivy league source. (However I will agree that there is a strong sense of reverse racism as stated in your other post. Plenty of people voted for Obama just because he was black, that doesnt mean he wasnt the better choice. But I will agree that some African Americans really do play the race card to often)
@baseballboi355 Sorry but i'm not wrong... Look at any charts and you will see that FDR increased it over 2 billion more and that is where most of our debt came from until Pres. Reagon. War cost and the liberal idea that bigger Gov works came from FDR's agenda. Eisenhower lowered it then Johnson raised the debt again as did Carter. Exactly, it was an ivy league source (lie).
@LukasFyreFury You cant say WWII brought us out of the depression and that FDR raised our debt ceiling, this is crazyily false. I get my facts from politifact, the #1 source in the country. Based out of the Ivy League. What I want to know is where the fuck do you get your facts? Because I hate to break it to republican extremists but FoxNews is borderline illegal propagandists. FDR died in his 4th term, and saying kennedy would be a republican is like saying Lincoln would be a democrat.
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MrSirBrendan 3 hours ago
I too studied history, and am on the track to begin teaching.... godspeed.
nelson3300 1 week ago
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@nelson3300 Do you know that Christianity is correct? The world around us reveals that G-d DOES exist, and the historical evidence reveals that Jesus Christ really did come to this earth and there is overwhelming evidence that Jesus Christ really did physically rise from the dead. Jesus is coming again and the signs of the end times that were foretold in the Bible are coming to pass.
marionetemanJ 1 week ago
FINALLY THE TRUTH!!! SOOO DAM REFRESHING
TheShel8777 2 weeks ago
I'm Jewish and I vote Republican. That would probably shock this woman, too.
revacohen 3 weeks ago 3
@revacohen Very good man!
Tazer183 3 weeks ago
@revacohen Thank you!
Tazer183 3 days ago
@revacohen ...REAL Jews would never vote for Obama. You give me hope.
VeriSheri 1 day ago
@VeriSheri Real meaning Racist Jews who disagree with Obama's policy? Or because he's black? Or both?
TheShel8777 1 day ago
This is slightly terrifying. Partly because the blonde women is parroting something I hear everyday...Also because these characters are just creepy.
whackybarbiedoll 3 weeks ago
Ooops, this is going to lead to tension in the workplace!
OmegaRage 3 weeks ago
@OmegaRage
I think she is looking for a hookup!!!
isantimn 3 weeks ago
Okay, why do democrats make derogatory remarks against blacks that don't share THEIR political views? And why are they called sellouts? Whites, hispanics, and Asians vote for various parties, so why should blacks be scrutinized when they do?????? Dems want to keep blacks controlled by government programs so they'll have little ambition to bettet themselves. And that's a form of modern-day slavery.
MrNYCman530 3 weeks ago 3
@MrNYCman530 Actually Latinos are also called sell-outs if they vote for the Repubs. Women are called imposters as well if they vote for the Repubs.
Aegius 3 weeks ago
@Aegius
So what will they be called if they sell out there religion, And vote for this clown after he trying to force his baby killing pills on them via there church?
isantimn 3 weeks ago
@MrNYCman530 Shhhh...careful what you say on the internet these days...the last thing they want us typing is the truth.
FzSBLACKMAGICK 3 weeks ago
56 people think that the black guy in this vid is a fascist
SupaNami 3 weeks ago
haa haa..... Exactly what happens when talking to most liberals. Experienced it many times. They can't think past the liberal false propaganda against conservatives to get at any actual facts.
leeuniverse 3 weeks ago 6
Where is human resources at this office? This lady should be fired after this lol.
DJTripleThreat78 3 weeks ago
Forget White Guilt, it's about Black Brainwashing. Try growing up as a young black person and having a fiscally conservative views, try voting for a republican and see how black people will treat you.
Now I'm not black, but it's something I hear about every day
Redeye1524 3 weeks ago 2
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TheShel8777 2 weeks ago
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@Redeye1524 Any black person that's NOT a ghetto tool- or drug dealing nigger you feel uncomfortable around. Liberal VERMIN LIKE YOU think blacks don't have the brain capacity to think, rationalize, or reason right from wrong. You do know the difference between NIGGERS & Black people don't you? I'm sure you don't..You are a FUCKING RACIST MAGGOT LIBERAL - Now do educated free thinking blacks a favor, and kill yourself..
TheShel8777 2 weeks ago 4
"Get back on the plantation"
Redeye1524 3 weeks ago
Just read the history of both parties.
Republicans have always pushed for equal rights and was founded to abolish slavery.
The Democrats on the other hand fought to keep slavery and after it was abolished and few black people were elected to congress as Republicans,the democrats founded the KKK to
intimidate and control blacks.Which they did for almost 100 years.Now the democrats
use entitlements,welfare and unions to enslave their constituents.
Read the history of both parties,please.
Dtmdeman 3 weeks ago 2
@Dtmdeman now the rolls are reversed, because of the neoconservatives. are you 50 years behind?
purplehaze216 3 weeks ago
@purplehaze216 No the rolls have not reversed.
They have reversed only in the minds(using that word loosely)of the droids produced by our
liberal education system.
Dtmdeman 3 weeks ago
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! "My skin color is United Nations, Hope and Change"! That's so funny!
RisenPhoenix68 3 weeks ago
good thing this lady isnt having kids.
TheKurtChaney 3 weeks ago
unfortunately most blacks aren't this articulate, nor as well informed
purplehaze216 1 month ago
@purplehaze216 So I guess all the white people who voted for Obama are gleaming examples of being informed, and articulate?
machosauceproduction 3 weeks ago 20
@purplehaze216 ! @machosauceproduction just pwned you... What ya gonna do? >>OKAY FOLKS, standby for name calling!<<
jodethemode 3 weeks ago
@purplehaze216 You do realize more White folks voted for Obama than Black folks right?
tonypybus 3 weeks ago
@tonypybus Whiiiite Guilllllt!
RisenPhoenix68 3 weeks ago
@RisenPhoenix68 I agree!
tonypybus 3 weeks ago
@tonypybus I know more more dummies voted for Obama... who cares what flavor they were?
froochie123 3 weeks ago
@froochie123 You do I reckon by answering my post.
tonypybus 3 weeks ago
@tonypybus obviously. by sheer numbers, it would've been impossible for him to win otherwise. the black population count in the US is 14%. even if every single black person in the US voted, he could not have won unless more whites voted for him then blacks.
do you follow?
purplehaze216 3 weeks ago
@purplehaze216 You do realize your post is nothing more than my post with some common knowledge details thrown in. The point is, since you didn't get it the first time, for every one uninformed black person who voted for Obama there's 3-4 uninformed white folks that helped elect him. Do you follow?
tonypybus 3 weeks ago 2
@tonypybus Uninformed... in what context?
The reason most white people voted for him was because of white guilt... they felt it their obligation to bring what they considered 'positive' change to government. he had a vague stance on nearly every issue, usually whatever appealed to the people the most.
purplehaze216 3 weeks ago
@purplehaze216 I find anyone with "White Guilt" uninformed.
tonypybus 3 weeks ago
wow that racist bitch lol!
dirteeter32 1 month ago
why is the water cooler filled with milk?
cryvsspy 2 months ago
This is the modern-day, liberal woman thought process. Totally insane and convoluted. Completely contradictory and viciously hate-filled. This is the exact type of mind-numbed voter that pushed a nut like Adolf Hitler into power in the 1930's...because they "feel." They don't use logic, common sense or grey matter in the least bit. Everyone is a fascist and a racist as far as they're concerned. The trouble with this group of insane zombies is that they number in the legions now in the workplace.
MrSchultzstaffel 2 months ago
MrSchultzstaffel....have you watched YouTube: ...Church Of Oprah #3
memama2 2 months ago
@memama2 No, I have not. I've tried to avoid Oprah as much as possible over the last 25 years because I have watched her frequently enough to be totally amazed at the absolute vacuousness of the intellect that the liberal media swoons over.I've watched Oprah listen to common sense men from the Center for Disease Control tell her that in this world there are most certainly evil people and they gave her examples.She sat there like a stump after that and refused to believe in the concept of it all.
MrSchultzstaffel 2 months ago
@memama2 Well, I just watched a video of that title here on Youtube, (even though there are several video's here of that same title,) and this one was taught by Crestwood NewLife Church. I wish to God that strong, black men like this were at the fore-front of our society. He is a breath of sweet, fresh air if I ever inhaled! You'll never hear him pushed in the left-wing media. There's just no way to argue with a strong man who preaches fact and speaks nothing but powerful truth! I love it!
MrSchultzstaffel 2 months ago
MrSchultzstaffel That was the video I liked! Posted by Crestwood New Life. Can you imagine how many people would stop listening to Oprah if that video was played before her "Master Life Class" she is now Miss-teaching her sheeple! If Oprah's "mind" could control the Universe and her godless gurus were real? Oprah would be a steady 99lbs.(her fondest wish) and would have brought back The Chicago Olympic Games! That she did not? Proves how fake her gurus and guidance is today.
memama2 2 months ago
@memama2 Well we would like to think that, but how many times have you seen liberal women totally reject the truth; not because it wasn't true, but because they hate the truth with such a passion? They want to be right more than anything else in the world, so they arrogantly reject the truth because let's face it; nobody on Earth could possibly be so stupid as to buy into Oprah's liberal dribble. Oprah was chosen to do the job she does because of her amazing lack of any common sense to speak of.
MrSchultzstaffel 2 months ago
MrSchultzstaffel I knew of a women(in my city) who watched Oprah promote the fake book: "The Secret". This womne owned a teaching school for skin/makeup. Afterwards, this women was the #1 student of Oprah and the demonic author "Rhonda B". who wrote "The Secret". She lived and breathed Oprah's idiot words. Then she got diagnosed with cancer. The women redoubled her effort to show others how "The Secret" worked! She died leaving a huge half finished mansion and 2 adopted orphans
memama2 2 months ago
@memama2 Michael Jackson's life was an unthinkable nightmare just behind the scenes. Drug use, chronic alcohol abuse, child abuse, pay-off's to perhaps people all over the world to keep em' quiet about it...the list goes on. These people are painted by the media as if they have it all and they are living the life, but could it be much different with Oprah? Just under the surface, the "Queen of the World" is undoubtedly presiding over a glorified trash heap. An empty ideology of no value at all.
MrSchultzstaffel 2 months ago 9
MrSchultzstaffel = AMEN!
memama2 2 months ago
The poster of this video is white....lol
97markviii 3 months ago
Liberals are childish mental midgets, incapable of facing reality, and usually dishonest.
Elmore3141 3 months ago
your argument looses all credibility when you claim that the "conservative movement" championed civil rights. It was socially progressive republicans, not social conservatives. As a result of the civil rights movement, social conservative democrats realligned themselves with the republicans afterwards. When Strom Thurmond changes parties you know something big just changed in the party! Its rather diabolical for you to attempt to rewrite history to take credit for another ideology's success!
odog502 3 months ago
@odog502 Strom Thurmond? Shit, just look at Charlton Heston! Marched with MLK himself AND supported our Righteous 2nd Amendment! No credit has been stolen; the video is quite astute.
LupineFreon 3 months ago
@LupineFreon For that to be true then you have to believe that after the 1960's the south went from being liberal to conservative, and likewise everyone in the north went from being conservative to liberal. Please. They just realigned to different parties. The south has always been the stronghold of conservatism and the north the stronghold of liberalism. Where was the strongest opposition to the civil rights movement? That's right, the south.
odog502 3 months ago
@LupineFreon Furthermore, just look at the voting record. An overwhelming majority of the NORTHERN democrats AND republicans voted FOR the civil rights act. An overwhelming majority of the SOUTHERN democrats and republicans voted AGAINTS the civil rights act. Again, the north being the longtime stronghold for progressivism, the south being the longtime stronghold for conservatism.
odog502 3 months ago
@odog502 The whole dogma derived from the north vs. south thing, with its wanting disdain that festers its heady nostalgia for the days of the civil rights era, looking for racist villains in the empty shadows of our present day, seems to bear an endemic paucity of appreciation for the differences between CAUSATION and CORRELATION. What the South WAS informs little of what it IS. People STILL believe (because of the telyouvision shows, of course) that that slow drawl denotes a lack of intellect.
LupineFreon 3 months ago
@LupineFreon You're deflecting. I spoke nothing of racism. I can use your same words to support my stance "What the Republican Party WAS informs little of what it IS". You think that just because the party's name is the same that the philosophy is the same? You think more likely that entire region's culture changed than the membership of a political party? In the 1860's the south was the home of social conservatism, and 100 years later it still was. Yet 50 years later that is no longer true?
odog502 3 months ago
@odog502 I guess the point is moot now. Party loyalty is dead for me. Members from both parties in the senate voted for the National Defense Authorization Act.
Some of us know that when something is "bi-partisan" it invariably means the government is ganging up against the people.
LupineFreon 2 months ago
Here is a fact, majority of black people have conservative leaning views, yet vote for the left. I am black and I am liberal, but it seems like black conservatives are getting more animosity from black people and not liberals (since they really are conservative). It is not surprising. Black people as a whole tend to be very religious, I'm an atheist, a plus one for being socially conservative more so. So, yes stereotypes are never always completely true, meet new people and open your mind.
Oreok16 3 months ago
Sounds about right.
Destructowad 3 months ago
The Republican and Democratic parties were different in the 1860's. Basically the opposite from what they are now. Educate yourself.
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BlackTheCheetah 3 months ago
Can't read the funny comments with all these replies.
BlackTheCheetah 3 months ago
You lost me at Herman Cain.
Shwaggetyshfifty 4 months ago
I grew up in the ultra democratic area of San Francisco. I'm Asian Indian. I still experienced prejudice at stores, in offices, and in school by the SAME liberal, hippie, tree hugging, jungle loving, occultist, trailer trash, leftist hypocrites who "claim" to support diversity when they REALLY want socialism, immorality, and perversion like Europeans and Canadians. Celebs, democratic politicians, leftist business people, and college deans & administrators are classist money hungry bitches too.
IcedCoffee81 4 months ago
lol all black people are conservative.....
TheJasonDR 4 months ago
LOL, this is not entirely accurate, because it does not make a distinction between the ORIGINAL GOP (lincoln's party) and the MODERN GOP which was mostly Dixiecrats who defected from the Democratic party in the 60's because they did not like intergration. Which means all the racists ended up being REPUBLICANS! So, when GOP paints its history to make it look like they were progressives who were in favor of civil rights, that's only 50% of the truth. They fail to mention what happened after.
Quisquellano26 4 months ago
@Quisquellano26 yea this video was banking on people not knowing that im assuming
idangle6 4 months ago
@idangle6 ....its disturbing how dishonest many conservatives are....one of the more blatant is their continued attempt to try to paint MLK as a republican. They know its a lie, but they keep saying it.
flipgood89 4 months ago
@flipgood89 one thing MLK was and we are assured of it, is a born again Christian and a believer in Jesus Christ! He is a brother in the Lord and testified of the grace of God in Jesus Christ!
GaryLyons 4 months ago
@GaryLyons ....MLK was a believer in the social justice and using the lord to heal and help others, not divide and judge. That is a big difference from the twisted conservative interpretation of Jesus, thats for sure.
flipgood89 4 months ago
@flipgood89 ..any twisted interpretation of Jesus is wrong, I agree. But it seems like yours is twisted. Jesus and MLK believed and spoke very strongly about helping the weak and poor, but neither condoned a socialist government to do it. They advocated the individual do it, from a free will and love of God and man. Big difference my friend.
GaryLyons 4 months ago
@GaryLyons ....THATS BULL.....know the words of MLK and what he championed and believed in, or dont say his name at all. See, you're the type of person I am talking about --- trying to hijack MLK's message and appropriate his legacy, by twisting his words around so he can fit your own ideology. MLK consistently attacked the exploitative nature of capitalism, and was a firm believer in democratic socialism. And ur also saying that jesus didnt believe in a "socialist govt."....lol. Please.
flipgood89 4 months ago
@flipgood89 MLK was a born again believer who had the Spirit of God. So of course he did not espouse mankind putting their trust in a godless, socialist government over the Lord Jesus Christ. MLK knew the truth of Jeremiah 17:5-8. And it is laughable to suggest that Jesus Himself advocated for man made governments to seize wealth from others and create a "social justice" utopia apart from God. For Jesus said He is the bread from heaven and if you feed on Him you will never hunger, spiritually.
GaryLyons 4 months ago
@GaryLyons .....you are no religious or true believer in spirit, I am sorry to say. You are a liar, with all due respect. You are blatantly lying about MLK's words and message. I am no theologian, but I can match every quote you can think of, with biblical scriptures that denounce greed and selfishness and promote the well being for all and selflessness. If you are as moral as you say you are, you need to stop lying. You are not being truthful about MLK's beliefs.
flipgood89 4 months ago
@flipgood89 ...I agree with you that God denounces all greed and selfishness, and God will punish all who have money as their god and hoard wealth. But you keep on insisting that a godless, socialist government is what God and MLK wanted. In this case, you are the liar my friend.
GaryLyons 4 months ago
@GaryLyons ....where are you getting this assumption that "a socialist govt" is Godless? capitalism is a man made economic environment that has put trillions in the hands of the few, thru exploitation, while hundreds of millions of people are either struggling, starving, or completely destitute. Ur telling me thats what Jesus wants, and not socialism where everyone's humanity is honored and valued??....and yes, I know MLK's words, I have read his books and listened to his speeches.
flipgood89 4 months ago
@flipgood89 ...just look at today's socialists. They are primarily godless, and the last thing they do is value humanity. No one who values humanity advocates the legal murder & holocaust of the unborn, like 99.9% of today's socialists do. Socialists simply want power for themselves and they feed on people's emotions for social justice to obtain this power. No wonder God says in Psalm 118 - "It is better to put your trust in God than in man." MLk agreed and Jesus stressed this fact often.
GaryLyons 4 months ago
@GaryLyons ....who exactly are "today's socialists"??....you have constructed this "socialist" in ur head with no rhyme or reason, similar to how you created this idea that MLK didnt believe in socialism. The whole idea of socialism is to put power in the hands of all men, regardless of wealth, creed, religion, gender, sexual orientation, or color. True socialism is about valuing humanity, peace, and justice for all.
flipgood89 4 months ago
@flipgood89 ..my friend, you have the definition of socialism completely wrong. Socialism puts power in the hand of the government and takes freedom away from the private citizen. I suggest you look the word up in the dictionary. True socialism does not value life (because it supports the murder of little boys and girls in the womb);l it does not value justice at all, it subverts justice to gain power; and true socialism never ends up being peaceful.
GaryLyons 4 months ago
@GaryLyons ....lol, socialism, in its true form is government free. Socialism is run by you me, our neighbor, our best friend, and our enemies. Everyone has equal say.
flipgood89 4 months ago
@flipgood89 ...what you are talking about is freedom. And I agree that is the idea of what God wants. God wants people to freely and willingly give of themselves and their resources to help others who are less fortunate. The key here is FREELY and WILLINGLY. What you are not considering about today's socialism is the evil heart of man. Today's socialists are government bureaucrats who want to use the government to enforce social justice by law at the expense of individual freedom.
GaryLyons 4 months ago
@GaryLyons ....okay, here is what I dont understand with people like you. So, the economic system of capitalism, where power and wealth is centralized in the hands of the few, while hundreds of millions of people are mistreated and exploited is somehow, "freedom"...but putting more power and wealth into the hands of people whose labor and sweat drive the economy is somehow evil and dangerous?? We are freely and willingly having our wealth extracted from us, by the ruling class. Freedom???
flipgood89 4 months ago
@flipgood89 ~Capitalism is the way better system. The problem with capitalism is not the system itself. It is the sin and greed of the human heart, in that I agree with you. But yes, capitalism is the free system and socialism is not. And you say "but putting more power and wealth in the hands of the people..." ~ with socialism it is the government who takes over and decides who keeps what capital and property, and it is the government who takes over power, they do not give power to the people.
GaryLyons 4 months ago
@GaryLyons ....capitalism is not a free system, and the govt. controlling resources is not a free system. If you want true freedom for all, the best way would be socialism, but since your only exposure to socialism, is what conservative talking heads tell you, you're constantly wrong about what a true socialist society would look like. Educate urself, my man.
flipgood89 4 months ago
@flipgood89 ..well tell me if I am wrong. Is not socialism when government controls more of the means of production of goods and services and taxes capital in order to supply government assistance to those who are having a hard time earning their own way? If socialism involves more government control, more government taxes, more government programs. Then I do not want any part of it. The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money.
GaryLyons 4 months ago
@GaryLyons ....Thats exactly what socialism is not. You have to understand that other republics have used the idea of "socialism" to form state controlled dictatorships in the name of socialism. They perverted the word socialism. Socialism is the elimination of all institutions, classes, and centralized ownership. It was inspired by Karl Marx who predicted that people would tire of being oppressed and revolt, turning ownership into the hands of everybody, and not the few who oppress. No GOVT!
flipgood89 4 months ago
@flipgood89 ...you said: "Socialism is the elimination of all institutions, classes, and centralized ownership."
Let me ask you this...who does the eliminating of institutions, classes, and centralized ownership? Is it not government? Do they not oversee all of this, and do they not have ultimate authority and power over everyone in this system?
GaryLyons 4 months ago
@flipgood89
well...but as later was proven... Karl Marx ideas don't actually fit well with human society. We are not all equal, ergo... classes will always exist some way or another. We are social animals, forming hiearchies is natural to us, ergo centralized (pack leader) ownership will always exist some form or another (even if just as a family oriented business spreading outside town).
You can't turn ownership into the hands of everybody, it's not practical. not all fit.
transtlantic 4 months ago
@transtlantic ....hmm. "we are not all equal", huh. So freedom to somebody like you is a conditional thing. See, once confronted, you "freedom" cats truly reveal you want nothing of the sort, when true freedom is suggested. You are all for control, inequality, and oppression ---- just for the "right kind of people"
flipgood89 4 months ago
@flipgood89
Freedom was always a conditional thing. Have you forgotten about the Duties? you have rights AND duties. It's part of the social contract. I am all for freedom. You have the right to be free. as long as you comply to social rules. A criminal is not free. A traitor is not free.
I am all for control, who isn't? do you want people to rob your house?
I am all for equality, as long you comply to the laws.
I hate opression. I hate when some people try to opress my right to be free.
transtlantic 4 months ago
@transtlantic ...yeah, but freedom is pliable, and often freedom is a weapon when a society is given the appearance of freedom for only a select few. Of course a society shouldnt have the freedom to promote lawlessness and pain..you know thats not what I am arguing for. But you cant say "I dont want govt. control", when you accept corporatized control. You cant say " I want freedom and no oppression", when you allow discrimination against others based on race, gender, sex, and class background.
flipgood89 4 months ago
@flipgood89
Ofc i can say govt control and corporate control, there is a middle ground. both can be equal partners in some activity.
What we do not want is corporative control over the govt, that's what we don't want. But govt control WE all with an education and a brain want.
We all allow discrimination no matter the system. As long as we are different, we will have discrimination, we can fight against it.
race, gender and sex are not the same as class. don't confuse the terms.
transtlantic 4 months ago
@transtlantic ....but discrimination directed at any subset of humans influences and shapes class, so they are all interconnected and explain patterns in our social relationships. I cant get down with your logic, you seem resigned to the idea that "discrimination happens....we cant fight it".....so should we all just commit suicide? Why do we fight and speak out over any injustice? It seems like because discrimination doesnt affect you, personally, it doesnt matter to you.
flipgood89 4 months ago
@flipgood89
Now you are being dishonest, or you are stupid.
Why don't you try to improve your reading skills?
I clearly wrote: "we will have discrimination, we can fight it"
If you want to try make your argument based on lies, you are not going to get very far.
Who says discrimination doesn't affect me?
You are an idiot, period.
transtlantic 4 months ago
@transtlantic ....your insults are unnecessary and dont really move me much....so because I missed one apostrophe (can/can't), im stupid now? calm down, fool. Your tone is still somewhat confusing...."we all allow discrimination no matter the system"....says who? What is ur overall point?
flipgood89 4 months ago
@flipgood89 You talk as if being poor is completely outside the control of the impoverished in a capitalist society. This is not true, as people have the FREEDOM to make stupid decisions with their own money; they therefore reap the consequences.
You're NEVER going to eliminate poverty nor people's pain, so the best thing to do is simply not begrudge them their freedom as well.
LupineFreon 3 months ago
@LupineFreon ...Freedom is pliable and interpretive meaning that certain people seem to either have a different interpretation of freedom, or they believe that freedom should only be granted to a certain set of individuals. As far as capitalism, wealth is distributed to those from more advantageous class backgrounds. Not merit. All studies reflect this. The elite explains this by painting the non-successful as lazy, so as not to acknowledge a rigged system against those not born into wealth.
flipgood89 3 months ago
@flipgood89 Well, looks like that's where you're wrong. You see, the Constitution has outlined what our natural (or God-given, if you prefer) rights are, and along with the Declaration, establishes that these Rights are unalienable. "Unalienable" is an absolutist term, and is therefore NOT negotiable, and NOT subject to interpretation.
Apparently, there have been LOTS of stupid people who think that makes me "racist"
Why is that, do you suppose? Is it because they ARE stupid, and not faking?
LupineFreon 3 months ago
@LupineFreon ...well I dont know what prompted them to call you a racist, so I cant really make any sort of determination one way or the other. What you've just espoused is problematic, and doesnt really address anything. What rights have the constitution granted us? Did we not reject European aristocracies? Well, wealth is centralized among a few set of elites, and the patterns that have emerged are that there is no circulation of mobility. Who ur daddy is means more than hard work and IQ.
flipgood89 3 months ago
@flipgood89 It's not problematic at all. Just look at the Bill of Rights. No problem there...unless you were a dictatorial authoritarian, in which case any aversion to which renders moral inferiority (which would be, um, "problematic" for tyrants)
LupineFreon 3 months ago
@LupineFreon ....so i take it you have no problem with corporate oligarchies imposing their will and extracting wealth from the middle class, thru the infestation of corporate monies in our body politic?
flipgood89 3 months ago
@flipgood89 I certainly do have a problem with it. Why else would I oppose a fascist program wrapped in a socialist cloak like Obamacare? And what commonsense person would call the bail-outs of those "too-big-to-fail" corporations anything other than absolutely WRONG?
LupineFreon 3 months ago
@LupineFreon ....my opposition to the healthcare bill is how watered down it is....really it went from single payer, to being reduced to a give away for big health insurance. That said, I am curious why you would label it "fascist"...You think making sure all Americans have health care is a bad thing?
flipgood89 3 months ago
@flipgood89 Why not? ANY giving of power to the government should always -ALWAYS!- be met with suspicion at the very LEAST, and absolute defiance and resistance at the very most. I thought that was obvious.
Anyway, *the short version* O-care is meant to cater to Big Pharma, essentially granting a monopoly to all of their medical distribution in conjunction with the FDA and the FTC violating the 1st Amendment Rights of those who offer alternative meds and supplements. Fascism.
LupineFreon 3 months ago
@LupineFreon (cont)....your response actually defined a "pliable freedom" insofar as you're quote "you're never going to eliminate poverty"....So in essence, there are a certain people for whom freedom is not accessible...and its true, freedom is not a concrete ideal as freedom for some is at the expense of freedom for others. If we did value freedom, then the right would not ignore inequalities promoted by our structural institutions, enforced by constructs of racism, sexism, class warfare, etc
flipgood89 3 months ago
@flipgood89 And what do you mean, "freedom is pliable?" As in, it's "relative," or even "interpretive?"
LupineFreon 3 months ago
@GaryLyons
wow... you really tried to explain what is socialism in less than 500 characters? lolol let's just ignore the THOUSANDS of pages in books about it... LOLOL
there are many types of socialist rule. What you said that it is socialism, can exist in any other form of govt.
if you say "More", that means it is measurable. what is your point of reference? what is "less" starting from what?
ALL types of rule have a problem. not just socialism.
educate yourself.
transtlantic 4 months ago
Ha,Ha. See "Joshua's Trail", a group of smart, sharp conservative black pastors from Ypsillanti, Mi. It is good stuff.
joshuadavidify1 5 months ago
Dems like to hide their party's racist history and now try to sell a false image that they care about minorities. Tell the truth at least.
Notoriousdsb 5 months ago 2
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Liberals think that black people aren't smart enough to create their own success. But they call you racist if you call them on it.
popshotizbeast 5 months ago
this is sooo funny
zac030101 5 months ago
@controversyking You my friend are no conservative,but rather,you are just another WHite racist who does not know what true conservatism means.You use racial sterotypes instead of real facts to make your arguments about social policies.You think in a collectivist,totalitarian manor and not a conservative,individualist manor.
damfst23 5 months ago
Liberals are the real racists because they don't think Blacks (and other minorities) have the ability to make it without the government. But libs are not bright enough to recognize their innate racism.
8thRRFS 5 months ago
I grew up in the super democratic region of the San Francisco area. I'm Asian Indian. I still experienced prejudice in school, at stores, and in job hunting by these SAME liberal, hippy, fruity, wimpy, wiccan, tree hugging, jungle loving, occultist, trailer trash, leftist hypocrites who "claim" that they support women, minorities, and the poor. Celebrities, entertainers, democratic politicians, leftist business people, and college deans & administrators are classist and oppressive bitches too.
IcedCoffee81 5 months ago
I'm a Black Conservative and you ought to hear the crap that come out of left leaning Democrats mouths when they find that out! I can tell them why I'm a Conservative and why I like and dislike what I do but all they do is call names and go off-topic. So much for compassion, LOL!!!!
mta415 5 months ago
Liberals are the real racists.
PunkAttitude8V 5 months ago
So true though.
thelockerroomleague 5 months ago
Obama can't kill the golden goose and then say he has golden eggs.
Svencore24 6 months ago
gwt off the internet
TheNicksSkitsShow 6 months ago
@baseballboi355
Has ever heard of him
ShadyRepublican 6 months ago
@Baseballboi355
1. I'm not a tea partiest, if you were saying that to me.
2. I never said that FDR only served 3 terms.
3. You didn't make a reply to me so that you'd have the satisfaction of finishing an arguement, which is childish.
4. Who you "really are"? You're a nobody, like me, except you're probably years and years older, and still less wise than me.
5. I insulted you because you're a douche, and douches DESERVE to be insulted.
6. The "author" is most likely undisclosed because nobody h
ShadyRepublican 6 months ago
Black conservative = educated black man who loves his country.
Liberals disregard the constitution and love to bash America.
I'm not black, but this how my observation sees it.
AKTIONxSKINS 7 months ago 16
@AKTIONxSKINS I'm black and I would never associate with an Uncle Tom aka Black conservative. I don't know where you heard that they are educated, because most black conservative Christians aren't. The majority of black professionals tend to lean on the liberal side. As for liberals bashing America, that's not true. They just realize this country isn't as great as conservatives make it out to be.
SuperBlackChic 6 months ago
@SuperBlackChic What makes you assume that all conservative are Christian. That's uneducated on your part. You obviously don't know why most blacks are dems. You're a follower.
AKTIONxSKINS 6 months ago 3
@SuperBlackChic
Don't confuse education with success, they are miles apart my fellow American.
isantimn 3 weeks ago
@AKTIONxSKINS I find this funny cause this is reverse racism and entirely untrue my family are all well educated. We are african american doctors lawyers dentists and business owners and none of us vote conservative..we look at the tea party and see racism and uninformed logic like what you have said is a baseless claim the vast majority of blacks see republicans as a threat to our advancement as a whole sorry but youre wrong.....
idangle6 4 months ago
@idangle6 Your family seems to be every profession in the book -- Sure. And you call yourself "educated" when you call the Tea Party racist?? Talk about "uninformed logic", you don't even know what you're talking about. I'm calling you out on bs.
AKTIONxSKINS 4 months ago
@AKTIONxSKINS hahah sure man my dad owns a healthcare company and a few mc donalds and my grandad is a doctor and a bunch of my cousins are lawyers o and my great great aunt was zora neale hurston you call bullshit why because black people arent successful sorry my family are successful you dont have to believe it im simply saying the tea party does have some racial undertones in it for sure dont kid yourself you for instance are anti muslim..all im saying is were dems man always will be
idangle6 4 months ago
@idangle6 ... Wait. Your father owns healthcare companies and McDonald's. lmfao what a ridiculous co-investment. That makes no sense. Anyways, If so, what are the names of the healthcare companies and the McDonald stations you claim your father owns?
I am not anti-muslim, I am anti-Islam. It has nothing to do with racial matters. It is about the matters of ideology. But, you wouldn't know that.
I never once said anything against black success, but of course you will play the race-card.
AKTIONxSKINS 4 months ago
@AKTIONxSKINS lol that ridiculous co investment has us two range rovers and audi and a beemer so shut the fuck up and manna enterprises and compassion healthcare in okatie south carolina all im saying is is that most black people are heavily democratic save a few and the republican party of old is more like the democratic party now and this video is misleading thats all im saying those are two facts with statistics to back them up
idangle6 4 months ago
@AKTIONxSKINS ha what does of course you will play the race card mean? is that another blatant generalization? implying that we always use the race card see what im getting at and u are for sure anti islam its all over ur channel youre just a toned down bigot
idangle6 4 months ago
@idangle6 Who am I generalising? I never said all black people use the race card. I said YOU use the race race. And, you proved my point. Oh poor you. I criticise you, and all of a sudden I have something against black people? The only reason you bring up Islam is because you're trying to imply that I am racist. But, you're too dumb to know that Islam is neither a race nor culture of people. I am not against Muslims, I am against Islam. I've already made that clear. Are you just illiterate?
AKTIONxSKINS 4 months ago
@AKTIONxSKINS see youre first comment for the generalization and i didnt say you were a racist all i said was you were a toned down bigot you didnt read that though so maybe you cant read? my only point is is that you made a generalization about educated black people being republicans and it simply is not true the vast majority of educated blacks are democrats and you cant refute that fact.
idangle6 4 months ago
@AKTIONxSKINSBlack conservative = educated black man who loves his country.
Liberals disregard the constitution and love to bash America.
I'm not black, but this how my observation sees it.
Generalization 1) Liberals disregard the constitution and love to bash America
Generalization 2) Black conservative is an educated black man who loves his country. (implying that the only black republicans are uneducated or hate the government) like the above liberals
But yea u dont generalize
idangle6 4 months ago
@idangle6 black liberals*
idangle6 4 months ago
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AKTIONxSKINS 3 months ago
@idangle6 Yet, you prove my point about the black dems being uneducated.
AKTIONxSKINS 3 months ago
@AKTIONxSKINS And you're right
tharemedybeats 4 months ago
Oh and I would like to thank you all in assisting me in my test. I have been working on an article where common Radical Republicans on the internet are pitted against the greatest political fact checkers in this country. And the fact checking does include a section of Tea Partiests who are also checking your answers. The article should be up in a little bit as it is also entering an undisclosed persons book. Have fun reading it once it is up and you figure out who I really am! :D
baseballboi355 7 months ago
I find it a little strange that first you argued that Roosevelt only was elected to 3 terms. Now that you found out I was right and that he was elected to 4 terms you are using childish insults to say it was a fluke.
1. I have never been and never will be on welfare checks.
2. You dont understand the concept of constant dollars
3. All tea partiests are like stubborn little kids who are against change in any way and believe that the rich in the country are the most important
baseballboi355 7 months ago
@baseballboi355
And... Does the "4th term" sound a little strange? Well yeah, because he was the only egocentric scumfuck to dare to cross our founding fathers. And even if you argue that it benefited the country to go for #3 and 4, it didn't. He died during 4, and he shouldn't have even tried.
ShadyRepublican 7 months ago
@baseballboi355
Finally, my father went to Brown University. Ever heard of it? if you knew anything about American Education you would know that getting a doctorate is a very complicated process, not achievable by the Internet. But you don't, because you live in a shanty leeching off of Uncle Obama's Socialist welfare checks. Enjoy your low-class life with the iMac you stole to write your shitty, thoughtless youtube shittalk.
ShadyRepublican 7 months ago
@baseballboi355
You can hide behind the 8th grade NYS history textbook sugarcoating a president that cheated and knew about the PH Bombing ahead of time all you want. Just trust me when I say it will not increase your intellectuality in any way, shape, or form. 2nd, cut it out with the fox news shit. I don't watch it any more than any other news channel.
ShadyRepublican 7 months ago
@baseballboi355
I actually showed my father that comment about FDR SINGLEHANDEDLY ending the Great Depression and he laughed as hard as I did. He has a doctorate in American History. I must credit you with one of the most bullshit comments I've ever read. What are you in 8th grade, or something?
ShadyRepublican 7 months ago
@ShadyRepublican I dont know whats funnier, the fact that you could even argue FDR or that I am arguing with someone who still lives with there father who got an online history degree from fox news for answering the "Question of the day"
baseballboi355 7 months ago
It is also well known that 95% of African Americans did vote for Obama... So i ask you who is the real racist?
LukasFyreFury 7 months ago
@baseballboi355
People think John McCain is patriotic, BECAUSE HE IS PATRIOTIC. dumbass.
ShadyRepublican 7 months ago
@ShadyRepublican That wasnt the argument, but nice defensive language there. The minute some questions you and you get really defensive.
baseballboi355 7 months ago
@baseballboi355
And, actually, MLKJR's niece claimed he was Republican, in addition to MLKSR being Republican. Pre-64', blacks were predominantly Republican. And, if he was an "extreme democrat", would he have been as religious as he was?? Just because supported Jesse Jackson, doesn't mean they share identical politcal idealogies. He supported his beliefs on Civil Rights, nothing more.
ShadyRepublican 7 months ago
@ShadyRepublican Oh and both MLK's son nd wife claim he was democrat, as well as Jackson and others of the people close to him. His niece was not nearly as close to him as any of those people, hell Jackson was at the hotel when he was assassinated. You cant pick and choose sources based on your convenience, that is very "Fox News" of you. Check your sources first.
baseballboi355 7 months ago
@baseballboi355
The civil rights movement was not as dependent on the executive branch as you are claiming. Most of the movement was influenced by snowballing effects of civil rights groups. And The New Deal did not solely end the GD. WWII did. It gave more jobs to the jobless than his little plan ever did. Not to mention his Advanced Knowledge of the PH bombing to instigate america's fight.
ShadyRepublican 7 months ago
@ShadyRepublican Hard to decide which to reply to first. I have never heard such ignorant arguments. Kennedy was assassinated because of his views on civil rights. Trying to claim that republicans are solely responsible for Civil Rights is ignorantly wrong. Also, how can you even argue FDR? The only president who was voted into 4 terms, the president solely responsible for pulling us out of the depression?
baseballboi355 7 months ago
@baseballboi355 FDR was voted in 3 times, not 4 dude... Seriously you got alot of things wrong... After FDR is also when they made the 2 term limit as well... Just so you know John F Kennedy would be a Republican nowdays...
LukasFyreFury 7 months ago
@LukasFyreFury The 2 term limit is known as the Lame Duck Pollicy, and it was instituted after FDR's death in his 4th term
baseballboi355 7 months ago
Oh and I hate to be a pissed off asshole, but FDR's new deal pulled us out of the great depression. So would you rather have us been reduced down to a 3rd world country? I cant even believe some of these are in question by you. This is far beyond radical, this is idiotic.
baseballboi355 8 months ago
@baseballboi355 Actually FDR increased the debt of the nation. More so, with the exception of Obama, than any other president in US history. Do more research.
LukasFyreFury 7 months ago
@LukasFyreFury Wrong, Roosevelt took office and actually lowered debt, YOU need to check YOUR facts and do YOUR research! It wont let me post the link of my source but it is an ivy league source. (However I will agree that there is a strong sense of reverse racism as stated in your other post. Plenty of people voted for Obama just because he was black, that doesnt mean he wasnt the better choice. But I will agree that some African Americans really do play the race card to often)
baseballboi355 7 months ago
@baseballboi355 Sorry but i'm not wrong... Look at any charts and you will see that FDR increased it over 2 billion more and that is where most of our debt came from until Pres. Reagon. War cost and the liberal idea that bigger Gov works came from FDR's agenda. Eisenhower lowered it then Johnson raised the debt again as did Carter. Exactly, it was an ivy league source (lie).
LukasFyreFury 7 months ago
@LukasFyreFury You cant say WWII brought us out of the depression and that FDR raised our debt ceiling, this is crazyily false. I get my facts from politifact, the #1 source in the country. Based out of the Ivy League. What I want to know is where the fuck do you get your facts? Because I hate to break it to republican extremists but FoxNews is borderline illegal propagandists. FDR died in his 4th term, and saying kennedy would be a republican is like saying Lincoln would be a democrat.
baseballboi355 7 months ago