One of my students AJ Dollison tapped Jeff Shaw @ Grapplemania XIII in 46 sec w/this technique. Our guys call it the Dollison Triangle 'cause he hits it on guys even when they know he throws it!
damn I have been looking for a better defense against stacking and this looks pretty good but what about having leg control on his which would prevent his slamming you?
I just got back from the dojo, but while I was there I tried it on my partner and he was tapping before he even knew what was going on! I was really surprised by how tight this choke can get. Thanks a bunch Ari.
Just curious but in a reality situation, are his arms in a position to effectively punch the head? would this be a 3 second choke, it might be worth taking one or two to make him sleep?
theres another good variation of this that works great for me use the hand thats is on the same side as the leg that gos across the back of the neck an reach up an across the neck to grab ur foot as if u were holding it there to keep him in place to adjust ur postion and posture slide the hand up towards the shin so ur placing ur forearm against the the artery and then just lock it up with the leg over the food
I'm the Pedro Sauer student from Chicago. I was training at the Ft. McCoy fight house in Wisconsin and this choke was shown to me by the all army combatives champion SSG Jacob South who got it from his instructor in Utah.
Wow, how legal is this? Like, would BJJ actually let you do this? I imagine in MMA it'd be great because odds are they wouldn't be able to tell if it was legal or not in a pinch....
i wouldnt say way high up but its towards the top because me being unproportional, my legs are short and even with good flexibility (which i have) i cant mission control correctly unless i scoot my hips out which would be towards his head. hope that explains it.
i've noticed some vids where eddie would lean one way to try and keep them from stacking but that only works for like a few seconds. solution?
Question: From a self defense standpoint, since there are two carotid arteries, can this choke actually knock someone out even though it only cuts off one?
he just puhes his fist against the side of his neck, right under the ear. guess its the same like you do it in a 'knuckle choke from mount'. search for the sub 1on1 video for the instuction
you can do what Joe Stevenson does when he gets taken down, he throws one of his arms over his opponents head, almost like a guillotine, but he doesn't lock it in. He does it so that way if he finds an opening, he can submit the other dude, and also the other dude is afraid of getting caught in a guillotine. From there work your way to full guard. Then again, I'm not a BJJ black belt, so maybe someone here can give better advice the me. :P
force your arm between you and their head . grip your hands and apply pressure. this should allow for under hooks with the help of using the lock down to elevate his leg putting more pressure on his neck . fight for both under hooks and gable grip around his abdomen. elevate his leg with the lock down and whip up to side of your hip and post on your elbow into dog fight position and u are going to have to fight for a control position like the back if he is not utilizing the wizzer
awesome. if you get this tight and they try to throw you could use the momentum for the mounted triangle...shit 10th planet you need a branch in MI. you guys are constantly evolving. good work.
Don't see why you would ever do this instead of a standard counter to the double underhook pass. If someone gets double unders they are stacking and passing immediately. Even if you can get the lock in your hips will be too far under your opponent to have any squeezing power due to their stack, then as they drop to one side you're forced to break and give them the pass.
The standard counter is to drop your legs and hips so they can't raise them. This is just making it easier.
this is an excellent response to your opponent trying to pass your guard with both his arms underhooking your legs...have not tried this yet but i would imagine that you would have to act before your opponent reacts ands flips you/gets your legs past your head so he can passs.....if you like these free moves check out my page...i have all the moves broken down in playlists (full guard subs, half guard subs, half guard sweeps,etc.)hope you enjoy it because i do....
Ari, would this be easier to escape than a standard tirangle? If the guy moves to the side or something... Also his arms are free to remove your legs, or at least to prevent you to apply as much pressure.
But it sure is a great alternative to the standard triangle!
Yes. It would be easier to escape than a standard triangle. A very strong guy that smashes you to the side before you can apply the choke with stuff this. I was show this by a Pedro Sauer student and was actually surprised how tight it was. I thought I could simply escape but it really is very tight.
Agreed. It actually works best when stacked quite high. The point is having a good squeeze. I thought I could simply blast out when it was applied but could not. The Pedro Sauer Student who showed me this said that he had been caught in it twice while rolling and then he showed me the application. I thought it was really cool because you often get caught in a head scissors without a way to finish a guy off.
One of my students AJ Dollison tapped Jeff Shaw @ Grapplemania XIII in 46 sec w/this technique. Our guys call it the Dollison Triangle 'cause he hits it on guys even when they know he throws it!
SuccessMMA 2 months ago
Dutch bag !!! Move. Lol
lacedwith5hourenergy 4 months ago
is this legal in mma?
xLETHALxEXODUSx 6 months ago
damn I have been looking for a better defense against stacking and this looks pretty good but what about having leg control on his which would prevent his slamming you?
67Sman 7 months ago
so most of the choke is actually applied with the hand? like basically grabbing the throat?
rizzope42 7 months ago
this is really nice.. most of our submissions are taken from submissions 101 haha!
lordswit6666 8 months ago
@submissions101
Is this legal in competition?
Ellisyounger101 8 months ago
I can't seem to find the Brandon Quick's Liberty Choke. Anyone have a link. Nice video by the way.
jcbiggs 10 months ago
I just got back from the dojo, but while I was there I tried it on my partner and he was tapping before he even knew what was going on! I was really surprised by how tight this choke can get. Thanks a bunch Ari.
bjjalltheway1 11 months ago
this is the best site on youtube love it helped me a lot thanks guys
bumfluff87 11 months ago
Just curious but in a reality situation, are his arms in a position to effectively punch the head? would this be a 3 second choke, it might be worth taking one or two to make him sleep?
Killemquietly 1 year ago
theres another good variation of this that works great for me use the hand thats is on the same side as the leg that gos across the back of the neck an reach up an across the neck to grab ur foot as if u were holding it there to keep him in place to adjust ur postion and posture slide the hand up towards the shin so ur placing ur forearm against the the artery and then just lock it up with the leg over the food
skaterkidhma 1 year ago
What if instead of using your hand, you used a cross-collar grip (assuming your opponent is wearing a gi) with the legs triangled? Could that work?
lazsoliz 1 year ago
@lazsoliz I thought the same thing while watching this. Gotta try it out
skeletonbite 8 months ago
I'm the Pedro Sauer student from Chicago. I was training at the Ft. McCoy fight house in Wisconsin and this choke was shown to me by the all army combatives champion SSG Jacob South who got it from his instructor in Utah.
Beerbaron9483 1 year ago
NICE! Wow I'm little with hands people always try to get me on the ground so THANKS!-Me
EastOaklandRoy 2 years ago
awsome, im always ending up in that position and normally have to go for kneebars but this looks alot better
bellys 2 years ago
Good thing Submissions101 is from Canada. ;D
GO CANADA!
BlackWhiteDarkLight 2 years ago 5
What's my best option to escape from this, other than not let it happen in the first place?
scrappy999777 2 years ago
the sit and pry, look it up on submissions101
Rideglobe 2 years ago
@scrappy999777 Grabbing the hand going to put the wedge in, then prying open the triangle
DoomFox5 1 year ago
Awesome option!
JiuJitsu81 2 years ago
Wow, how legal is this? Like, would BJJ actually let you do this? I imagine in MMA it'd be great because odds are they wouldn't be able to tell if it was legal or not in a pinch....
DoomRater 2 years ago
Nice video. Great verbal description!!! love this technique
5 stars + FAV
RNLarkin 2 years ago 2
love it. I'm gonna try this tonight at class :)
MMAOutsider 2 years ago
submissions 101 is great.. Outstanding instructions..... The best Jujitsu on you tube
teamdq1 2 years ago
question for you Ari...can i put my arm thru my triangled legs and apply pressure to the artery with my forearm?mahalo...
skinnyruss 2 years ago
thats kinda like what the liberty choke is i think...if i remember right
tgsndsku101 2 years ago
what if they stack up?
WoWpws 2 years ago
yea. whenever i use rubber guard on my friends they ALWAYS stack. is there a way to keep them from just standing up?
i always have to result to a knee bar or a sweep. it gets annoying. anybody got a solution?
AjaxHammer6 2 years ago
How good is your rubber guard? Is high up, or low down on your friends back? Or is it even up near their neck?
MattCadillac 2 years ago
i wouldnt say way high up but its towards the top because me being unproportional, my legs are short and even with good flexibility (which i have) i cant mission control correctly unless i scoot my hips out which would be towards his head. hope that explains it.
i've noticed some vids where eddie would lean one way to try and keep them from stacking but that only works for like a few seconds. solution?
AjaxHammer6 2 years ago
well they have stacking sweeps and defenses posted up.
FeverantxFinality 2 years ago
yea but, i like to finish off the back because its more fun. i could sweep any day and get mount but finish from back is way more fun.
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AjaxHammer6 2 years ago
Question: From a self defense standpoint, since there are two carotid arteries, can this choke actually knock someone out even though it only cuts off one?
spetsnaznaz 2 years ago
It cuts off both. Your leg cuts off the other side.
Submissions101 2 years ago 6
nearly knocked me out once when I was trying to be a tough and left it up for too long.
Lesson learned: don't be stupid, tap out.
JohnsonGetDown 2 years ago
@spetsnaznaz lol
Sheggzz 1 year ago
@spetsnaznaz exactly, the leg cuts the other side :)
Morgothhhh 1 year ago
@spetsnaznaz nope this move cuts off both. 1 from hand. the other from the backside of the knee.
khyeviral 1 year ago
i cant see what you did with your closed fist at the end of the clip to make him tap??
plaincashmoney 2 years ago
he just puhes his fist against the side of his neck, right under the ear. guess its the same like you do it in a 'knuckle choke from mount'. search for the sub 1on1 video for the instuction
abcjuju312 2 years ago
even if they're about to pick u up u can still do the technique ?
24miggy24 2 years ago
Interesting!
vegasskating 2 years ago
Submissions101, is this submission legal in ADCC or other grappling events?
Viktir666 2 years ago
can anyone tell me, what do you do when you have someone in halfguard and he is bear hugging you really tight under the arms ?
omuleanu 2 years ago
you can do what Joe Stevenson does when he gets taken down, he throws one of his arms over his opponents head, almost like a guillotine, but he doesn't lock it in. He does it so that way if he finds an opening, he can submit the other dude, and also the other dude is afraid of getting caught in a guillotine. From there work your way to full guard. Then again, I'm not a BJJ black belt, so maybe someone here can give better advice the me. :P
MattCadillac 2 years ago
Joe Stevenson is a beast.
EZPZLEMONSKWEEZE 2 years ago
Straight up, hes been throwing his fights though, against Diego Sanchez and whats his face... Kenny Florian.
MattCadillac 2 years ago
Yeah i've noticed that to lately...=(
EZPZLEMONSKWEEZE 2 years ago
force your arm between you and their head . grip your hands and apply pressure. this should allow for under hooks with the help of using the lock down to elevate his leg putting more pressure on his neck . fight for both under hooks and gable grip around his abdomen. elevate his leg with the lock down and whip up to side of your hip and post on your elbow into dog fight position and u are going to have to fight for a control position like the back if he is not utilizing the wizzer
ToxicDolI 2 years ago
thnx man
omuleanu 2 years ago
Great!!! I'm gonna try this
UmDiaEuFicoBom 2 years ago
Very effective
shstoppa 2 years ago
Nice Technique Ari. I pulled this off in a roll last night. Got the tap almost instantly.
nismophreek 2 years ago
"It's more of a douchebag move" lol
Joe22c 2 years ago
Douchebag moves are the best. ;]
Hotora86 2 years ago 2
Top notch technique Ari!
RoaringTiger281 2 years ago
Can you still shoulder back while doing this?
BTW do you guys teach? as in a club and stuff.
courier211969 2 years ago
wow this is very helpfull. and lol at 2:26
thatguitarguyguy 2 years ago
intersting.
jdawgzilla117 2 years ago
Oh I sooo needed this yesterday!
siniqdrakon 2 years ago
its called a leg triangle
LRGskater41 2 years ago
Fantastic!
misterwipedown 2 years ago
awesome. if you get this tight and they try to throw you could use the momentum for the mounted triangle...shit 10th planet you need a branch in MI. you guys are constantly evolving. good work.
JohnThePheonix 2 years ago
this seems very similar to the gag reflex from crackhead control
liveinthepit 2 years ago
Don't see why you would ever do this instead of a standard counter to the double underhook pass. If someone gets double unders they are stacking and passing immediately. Even if you can get the lock in your hips will be too far under your opponent to have any squeezing power due to their stack, then as they drop to one side you're forced to break and give them the pass.
The standard counter is to drop your legs and hips so they can't raise them. This is just making it easier.
Hiitschris 2 years ago
Would that move be allowed in BJJ or MMA competition since you're actually using part of your hand to choke the person?
mkygod 2 years ago 2
considering the "rape choke" is used for control i dont see how this would be illegal. Your not actually grabbing the throat.
but if a ref or a judge got pissy i wouldnt really be suprised.
robthemilt 2 years ago
this is an excellent response to your opponent trying to pass your guard with both his arms underhooking your legs...have not tried this yet but i would imagine that you would have to act before your opponent reacts ands flips you/gets your legs past your head so he can passs.....if you like these free moves check out my page...i have all the moves broken down in playlists (full guard subs, half guard subs, half guard sweeps,etc.)hope you enjoy it because i do....
skinnyruss 2 years ago
Ari, would this be easier to escape than a standard tirangle? If the guy moves to the side or something... Also his arms are free to remove your legs, or at least to prevent you to apply as much pressure.
But it sure is a great alternative to the standard triangle!
turmat01 2 years ago
Yes. It would be easier to escape than a standard triangle. A very strong guy that smashes you to the side before you can apply the choke with stuff this. I was show this by a Pedro Sauer student and was actually surprised how tight it was. I thought I could simply escape but it really is very tight.
Submissions101 2 years ago
Sweet. I sometimes have trouble getting the arm in the regular triangle. Thanks
RickeyEightyFour 2 years ago
this would have to be applied at lightning fast speed.
themiz2003k 2 years ago 7
Agreed. It actually works best when stacked quite high. The point is having a good squeeze. I thought I could simply blast out when it was applied but could not. The Pedro Sauer Student who showed me this said that he had been caught in it twice while rolling and then he showed me the application. I thought it was really cool because you often get caught in a head scissors without a way to finish a guy off.
Submissions101 2 years ago
that looks dangerous.
freakin awesome
bloopyblop 2 years ago