Otello Cage Match: Iago's Credo pt. 4 Cappuccilli vs Milnes

[2002obie]

Cappuccilli

[Beth29252]

Both do splendid jobs with a truly blasphemous and chilling aria, but for me Cappuccilli wins overall as in my opinion he owns this aria and role. The beginning especially has such intense character that draws you right in, and the tuning is a little more secure here too. Milnes however is another one of my favourite Iagos and his rendition is also intense and sadistic. When it comes to the evil laughs, neither amazed me but Milnes' was better for me.But his one on the vaimusic clip was freakier

[Peppi94]

Milnes!!! Always Milnes!!!!

[HeldenB]

Cappuccilli by a mile!

[tenorismo]

No contest. Milnes couldent carry carry Cappuccillis music .

[Ejettore]

Non credo si debba stabilire chi sia in più verdiano, perche Jago non è un tipico baritono verdiano. Cappuccilli ha un voce piuttosto asciutta da baritono "cattivo",quindi, anche se Milnes non è affatto male, Cappuccilli è quasi insuperabile come Jago. Per un "Conte di Luna" o per un "Re Carlo" in Ernani le cose andrebbero diversamente.

[bodiloto]

vinay,nikolov,giacomini avvevano  voci piu scure di questi due " baritoni" ,grazie !

[tedeschi11]

Cappuccilli! Cappuccilli! Cappuccilli!

[Arsace88]

I totally agree with you!

[nitrate6971]

The Milnes Iago in that 78 Met performance not only had to play a bad guy everyone thought was a good guy, the concept was that he had some kind of split personality, doing evil stuff and then waking up and being shocked at what he had just done,holding his head and beating up on himself.

[Krawi6]

But this is not taken from a Met performance but from a studio recording. Cappuccilli is life from La Scala.

[egymagyar1111111]

remember, Jago by Milnes is a devilish figure,but we must know tha last scene, where he is a covard and run away from Othello's sword, Jago is a disgusting figure, envious of Othello's success, and by his mockery and other attitudes gain territory for short term, Milnes is showing a devilish straighforward evil figure, by Shakespeare Jago is a smalltime crook

[fratenore]

Certainly Cappuccilli

[liric01994]

in questo ruolo cappuccilli é imbattibile, anche se milnes non é male!!

[mosifchi]

Milnes in rules in this contest. Cap sings flat here too.

[leadoffeohippus]

I'm a huge Milnes fan, but I mean...Cappuccilli is the best Iago ever...he was the best in this role.

[baricoop]

I guess I have to go against the mold. I REALLY like Cappuccilli, but I have to give a slight edge to Milnes. There is a menace in his voice that I really like for this role. And there is just so much ring and forwardness in the sound, though I do agree with him singing flat at times and the sound being somewhat manufactured. I think the two are really close.

[Krawi6]

I just can repeat what I said some time ago. Cappuccilli is much better than Milnes.

I am interested where these part a taken from?

Cappuccilli from la Scala with Carlos Kleiber?

Milnes from a performance at la Met?

[baritonoguapo]

The Milnes excerpt is taken from the 1978 Levine recording with Domingo and Scotto. You are right about the Cappuccilli excerpt.

[blichilde]

Cappuccilli,no doubt.

[tenorismo]

Milnes LOL LOL LOL MIlnes lol lol right hes better ? lol Hes youwling Cappuccille is singing .

[nisticom]

No comparison! Cappuccilli is a million times better. Milnes is so mannered and artificial...

[Iareto]

Many say that Milnes was a baritone trying to be a tenor, but I'm almost sure he was a tenor singing baritone. This is why the sound is so manufactured in my opinion. I prefer Capuccilli because I just don't like Milnes (and I'm AMERICAN fecheverriam, so your statement is shown as all the more ridiculous).

[tenorismo]

Agreed Lareto

[HeldenB]

Absolutely! That's why he had such a freaky top. He started out as a rather nasal tenor (by his own admission). Have you heard his speaking voice? High, slighty whiny and nasal.....definitely not a real baritone throat. He did some great things in his glory decade though..in the high lyric baritone rep. but I've always thought he damaged himself trying to "manufacture"' a dramatic verdian baritone...with all that hooking and pushing.

[narfitowa]

I prefer Cappuccilli.....Milnes sings flat too often!!

[izar1234]

"Milnes sings flat too often!!"

I totally agree though many don't seem to hear it. It was a by product of his overly manufactured sound.

[fecheverriam]

I'm not italian so I can recognize that Sherrill Milnes is better.

[Krawi6]

Please can you tell me why you can recognize that Milnes is better (I don't agree with that by the way)And what has that to do with the fact that you are no italian? Can it com etrue that you are from the Unites Staes like Milnes and that this is the reason why you prefer him? I am neither italian nor american, but I think Cappuccilli wins easily.

[Shipskeel]

What does "better" mean? It means a person likes one over the other. That is all.

There are no better trees in the forest. A tall tree, a short tree. They are trees.

No one "wins" except in the popularity contest which really means nothing.

[Krawi6]

When one likes a singer more than another one he should they so. "I like him better, a prefer him in this part, or I prefer his singing". But if you say one is better you should try to prove this statement. Jago is a bariton and I don't think it should be sung like a tenor.

[luisenes]

estoy de acuerdo contigo,la opera es de origen latino por excelencia(italiana)elo problema con los norteamericanos es que creen saberlo todo y merecerlo todo.pero realmente nunca han tenido buenos cantantes de opera.

[izar1234]

"I'm not italian so I can recognize that Sherrill Milnes is better."

I'm not Italian either, but apart from that having any bearing on anything, Capp's voice was much better "put together" than Milne's, who always had a thrilling top, but became lost in mannerisms after the late 70's. Capp's technique allowed him to be a consistently excellent baritone from top to bottom throughout his lengthy and extensive career.

[Arsace88]

Cappuccilli!

[luisenes]

aposto por capuccilli

[raigekimaru]

both were amazing but they seriously need to work on their evil laughs.

[baritonoguapo]

My favourite evil laugh is Louis Quilico's. He's on the response, part 5.

[Giorgiobaritono]

Cappuccilli per sempre!!!

[Giorgiobaritono]

Por supuesto que gana el gran Cappuccilli!

[drdre333]

Oh yeah, and when Milnes was in his good years, those high A's in Act I were amazing. Many singers have the worst time singing them, and understandably so!

[Shipskeel]

Milnes flirted with being a tenor. Cappuccilli is more "baritone" than Milnes.

[drdre333]

More like Milnes always wanted to be a tenor... He wasn't one.

[drdre333]

I know Cappuccilli is considered one of the most beautiful baritones, but to me his voice is just not very striking. Especially as he got older it seemed to lack color, and sounded as if he was shouting. Milnes certainly had his own issues too vocally, but I've always found his voice to be more unique and characterful. I'd rather have that. Both used to sing wonderful interpolated notes that thrilled audiences to pieces.

[Gerilu40]

Well I prefer Cappuccilli. He was a great Jago in Verona and La Scala. ButI have always prefered the Italian baritones to the American stars.

[baritoneforyears]

milnes is the full package. great singing actor.

[izar1234]

Capp is easily the winner for me. Milnes' voice always sounded manufactured, especially around the upper passagio of E-flat and E natural, where he's often flat. Not so Cappuccilli. Plus, Milnes' over hooking is just so annoying after a while. The way they each sing the last high F on the word "ciel" is a good example. Milnes' goes through several vowels before landing on the right one. This habit became more and more apparent as his voice declined.

[Krawi6]

It is Cappuccilli..

Milnes lacks a bit the feeling for Verdi

[mosifchi]

Milnes owns Cappuccilli!

[ginodina]

Ma questo e Cappuccilli...

[Peppi94]

Thank you so much for posting this! Milnes is my IDOL!! His "credo" in a Live from the Met production so many years ago, is one of the reasons I fell in love with him and his fabulous voice!!