I like what you said about Halo-- from behind there should be an instant kill but an animation for it like the Reach assassination system or Battlefield victimized stabbing from behind so you can't knife 10 people within 2 seconds. From the front it should be a 2 knife kill.
that would preserve the developers intent of a reactionary knife attack. two players round a corner, the first to react gets two slices in first. the other player has a chance to react, maybe back off and shoot or whatever
i think its ridiculous that my fully automatic rifle shooting you in the face wont prevent you from lunging at me and killing me instantly with a knife to anywhere on the body. perhaps a certain amount of damage should stop a knife lunge? or perhaps do it like Counter Strike; 2(or 3 cant remember) slices to the body, one to the head or back.
@LeftyOX With the range on the knife I don't mind it and yes I get panic killed but not that often not like MW2. What is the difference of the knife being OP and the QSing (which you do alot) being OP. Please dont give me the bs that it takes skill to QS it doesn't esp with modders you see all over. Also the time issue is null because a QS you dont aim. That being said I would be OK if the knife insta kill was the the back only.I would like to see larger maps as long as you can move within them
Insta kill melee is sooo very balanced in mw3.. maybe even under powered.. Mw2 it was balanced if not using commando, and black ops.. almost useless, if you're going to bitch because you let someone get that close to you, then play black ops.. and the reason halo is a two hit melee is because there's WAY more health.. yes panic knifing is annoying but you had it coming.[:
@JakeOpTioNaL You haven't explained exactly how it is or even was balanced other than to simply state that it is that way. That's not a very effective argument. Nothing else in this series, save for a few killstreaks and the odd no-scope, is an insta-kill; even OHK weapons like sniper rifles take time to aim. There is no reason (save for making the game more accessible to noobs) knifing should an insta-kill placed on a primary controller button.
call of duty is fast paced think about it just wouldnt be the same. Don't get me wrong I rage at it too sometimes because im a sniper and its annoying when kids panic knife. However I wouldnt change it because I think It would mess up the pace of the game
Lefty is just talking. there should be no hate on this video. it's his opinion. personally, i don't know if i agree or disagree. All i know is that i play Battlefield, and it feels like the most balanced FPS i've played in a while.
mw2 how u can melee farther is fucking gay and cannot happen in real life pluse when u have a gun out u take out ur knife like nothing hope they change dat cuse i hate it when i shoot them they run through my bullets and stab me in a long distance
You should only be able to insta knife kill with a weapon you pull out. So you cannot shoot whatsoever if you have this weapon equipped. Sort of like the ballistic knife but would also replace primary.
The idea I had to fix the knifing was to just make the current Tactical layout the Default layout, and not even have the current default layout in the game.That way, everyone has the knifing button at the same spot and then everyone has an equal chance of being the faster knifer.
@MrStephen920 I think you are on to something. The fact that I use the tactical button layout gives me a disadvantage because in order to knife someone I have to take my thumb off the control stick in order to push the melee button! Although I do use tactical so I can drop shot much easier, and the kills I get from dropshotting people might balance out with the kills people get with their faster melee's.
The problem I feel about the idea of changing the knife system is that, as you said, the action is very much "high speed". In COD, there just isn't enough time for a multi-hit melee when you eat a Type-95 burst or have to deal with rapid fire weapons. It does suck when you get knifed, but at the other end, how many times has that knife missed, and that player is now at your mercy due to the rather large recovery time. To cite Battlefield, maybe you can just make it an alternate weapon?
Good vid... all that said it is still incredibly hard to do well "knife-only." That aside, I think it was Wings who said that the knife should do the same damage as the health you have. Say i turn a corner and fire at a guy, he's now on 40% health... his knife lunge would only take 40% off me. This would make "panic" knifing redundant and focus the game once more on gun on gun gameplay (regarding connection between the players is relatively ok)... Keep up the good work Lefty
@sloanschafer17 No because if you turn a corner one persons using tactical button lay out the other default, the default player just panic's jams the right stick and your dead now where's the skill in that and how is it fare? Also what about when you run past someone and panic knife and still get the kill even when you've both run past each other. Personly I hate the knife in cod it should be a secondary weapon pull it out and it's a instant kill use the standard knife then it's a 2 hit
eh, i kind of see what your saying Lefty but at the same time whose gonna survive a knife to the face, heart or lung?
To a certain degree i do beleive that the knifing system needs a revise bonus to that being if you want a 1 shot knife you have to be a little smart + sneaky to get behind them but this far into the MW series it might potentially f- up a cod veterans day.
HOWEVER! At least now its not 'as bad' (i want to say) as Mw2 w/ commando -.-
Bringing halo into this argument is irrelevant. It's a completely different game. If you can go up to someone on this game without dying you should get the instant kill. It's fine and it won't change so dont bitch about it
I think the way to balance knifing but still not eliminate the guys who love to knife would be to make a primary weapon such as the balistic knife such as the one in BO a 1 hit kill from front or back then make a regular knife a 1 hit from the back and a 2 hit from the front or sides. So if you wanna knife like a BOSS you arent going to be shooting me with a beast weapon too.
You can have an insta-kill melee system. It worked in COD4 where there wasn't any aiming on the person by the game, this was altleast the case for the PC variant. But as it works in the recent games it is indeed overpowered. You don't have to be even near a person to knife and not even near a person to kill them. Also the ability to knife people after you're hit 2/3 times and are near death is simply said: Bullshit.
I play battlefield and I think what they did in bf3 is a wonderful idea. 2 hit from in front and a animation knife kill from behind so it still takes time to knife someone. Love your bids lefty keep em comin
Knifing has always been overpowered towards the panic knifers. I have been going blade only since Black Ops for the challenge and it is just absolutely ridiculous at times.
YES! I 100% Agree. Theres been a few of your videos where Ive been abit meh, abit wooo, a bit way but I agree wholeheartedly (If thats a word haha) that knifing is unbalanced. There should be no 100% insta weapon/method in any game. 2 hits for the kill. Gears and Battlefield have it right. Btw great video.
Completely agree with u bro. I hate it wen I get panic knifed. Also battlefield has a good system, where it takes 3 at full health. Only wen u stab them with the animation does it instantly kill them. Cod melee should be liked battlefield, to eliminate panic knifing.
The reason why it works in Halo is because it takes so long to kill somone in halo. one knife has a delay of 2 seconds which is enough time for the person you knifed you the front to drop shot you to death
MW3 with no knifing would be a stupid idea with no knifing people will just be running around hip fire each other. and if you just dumb knifing down to 2 hit for a kill no won will knife at all. i thank knifing has the perfect balance in MW3.
honestly, a panic knife should just turn a players screen red and disorient them for a second. If it takes 3-5 bullets to get a kill, a knife shouldn't do it in one. How about insta-kills from a throwing knife to the foot? Talk about ridiculous!
@Nemesis11FP well the throwing knife is just a novelty. and knifing someone in the throat would kill them much faster than a few bullets to the chest, but video games don't simulate real warfare and CoD is a prime example of that.
I don't see how anyone can call it 'unbalanced', Lefty implied, that he wouldn't mind a system like halo where it was a single strike from behind and two from the front; If you approach someone from the front you and them have an equal chance of knifing each other, the only unbalance that could occur is from connection alone. It seems as though people simply winge because either they don't have the reaction speed to knife, or the mental capacity to comprehend using something other than a gun.
@TheHunter117 So? It doesn't matter if two players have equal chance to knife. The fact is that knifing as an absolute insta-kill is unbalanced with every other facet of the game. Why are you talking about "equal chance to knife"? That makes no sense.
@LeftyOX The reason why knifing IS balanced is because everyone has ability to use their knife in a one vs one situation, if you are at a point blank distance from an enemy why choose to use a gun other than a shotgun.
With this in mind, can you tell me exactly what is imbalanced about having a reflex based game mechanic that rewards those with faster reactions, the fairest response I have heard is the part that lag plays, but I have not heard any reasonable critiques of the concept itself.
@TheHunter117 Knifing IS NOT balanced because it overpowers guns in many CQB situations. I can't count the number of times I've gotten 2 or 3 hitmarkers with a gun, just to be knifed by someone, who teleports 2-3 meters or turns 90 degrees.
@LeftyOX i love Halo and i loved ninja slapping tryhards from the back. Halo 3 best 1st person shooter of all time @TheHunter117 if you think the painc knife is a skill go and kill yourself lol joke
@LeftyOX I dont quite agree with what you say, while you have some valid points, others are not. the reason that halo has a double bash kill, i believe, is because its health system is much diff. its snipers also dont one hit, and takes much more normal bullets to one hit. the health in that game is 150%-200% cod health. in order to deal with the OP 2 hit guns you have to have one hit knife
@TheHunter117 shush u silly man i dont give two shits if we have a "equal chance to knife" its bullshit i get a hitmarker with my pump action shotgun and then u knife me and i die??... thats bullshit. not to mention it locks on like a fuckin heat seeking missle its bullshit i cant understand how your having trouble with this its simple
@TheHunter117 the speed reaction yo knife? oh god, people are to slow to even click the shooting button so they always die, so they panic knife, the only people who defend knifing are people who are shit at playing the game and hope their knife will save them. once again i say it, people who suck at the game love the knife (you love you knife cause your shit)
I'm of the same opinion of ErriotSmerriot. It would make it more Halo-esque and a lot of people would be pissed but it would put the focus back on the gun play. If they want a one hit kill melee then it should, again, be like Halo with designated weapons(the Energy Sword and Gravity Hammer) that deliver that instant satisfaction.
Make it like CS:S where your knife is a separate weapon and it requires immense skill and stealth to achieve a knife kill. Or even like quake, because the glove was a separate weapon aswell. My point is that knifing someone in a multiplayer video game used to be seen as a hard feat to accomplish. Now, because of Cod, its just BS.
I think it should be a weapon bunt. Where you hit them with your weapon and make a two hit kill unless already damaged, The bigger the weapon the slower the melee.
Halo melee system? It takes a shitload longer to kill somebody in Halo, the melee system was in sync with that. You can kill people far more quickly in CoD, so this melee system runs alongside that. I have never had an issue with being knifed in MW3. Commando in MW2 is a different story entirely, but there are far more things that I have an issue with than knifing.
You should only be able to knife people if you are behind them. The amount of times i walk around a corner, go to dropshot and get panic knifed is unreal.
The knife should at least take time to pull out, such as in BF:BC2, or it should be like Halo/BF3 where it's always a one-hit from behind but it's two+ hits from the front. The auto-aim for the knife should also be disabled completely. If you're using the knife, it should be from a range where a hit is guaranteed when you're on target, no assistance required. So basically, slash-only, plus a smaller hit cone, maybe half as wide as it is now.
in Halo, the ttk with a gun is so long that the two hit melee is a valid option. In cod, the ttk is so short that if the knife took two hits, it would be totally useless vs any other weapon.. imho
when u talk about halo u hav to take in consideration that the characters have a huge amount health it takes almost half a clip if u are accurate to kill. at least w/ the machine guns. this is wat makes the melee 2 hits, but in cod u hav a 3-4 shot kill with most guns a 2 hit melee would be completely useless the only thing they should change is the lunge be having none wat so ever
The knife should be its own weapon like the ballistic knife or tac. knife. If you don't have it out, then you can't knife for a 1 hit kill but instead pistol whip for a 2 hit kill.
The people that bitch about you Lefty in this vid and dislike are the ones who play Default. Tactical should be the "Default" and the current default shouldnt be in the game.
i've always loathed the knifing mechanic in this game. if knifing is a 1 hit kill, it should be a separate weapon. otherwise, it should be a two hit kill.
but this is wishful thinking, robert bowling isn't even taking out dead man's hand even though the entire community is telling him he's fucking retarded.
Don't ever knife in this game. it cost me a moab. I shot someone in final stand. I tried to knife him because i wanted to poo on this kid. I teleport to this person. Put my knife in his skull and he didn't die. Then I'm helpless and he knives me....
i think ur trying to make a game like BF3 in COD nd personally i would love that...but i am glad that u bring issues of COD up constantly bc it keeps me playing and loving bf3 more and moar bc there is less to no bullshit...the only op thing in bf3 is frag rounds on usas nd shotguns
Anyone who has been a "hardcore" player of the CoD series for a good amount of time and has actually played other FPS games will realize that your statement, albeit sugar coated, is 100% correct. What do these people think the term "panic-knife" came from? I've starting noticing it more and more as the franchise gets bigger. Liked and favorited.
People stop getting mad and saying all he does is complain. He's a critic and he criticizes things. Thats what he does if you don't like that why are you here? To complain? I'm sure he dosn't want your opinion if thats what your here for.
i dont like comparing games...but the knife should be bf3 style...that is as balanced as it gets..it cant be a 2 hit kill ..the only time this works is in games like halo because in halo the life is huge when it comes to bullet damage.. the knife would be usless becuase once you get a hit marker with the knife..in COD you will die fast.
@moneymanjose1 its a first person shooter, you should be using your gun not relying on your knife, the point is that knifing should be viewed as a last resort option instead of people panicing every time they get close to someone and slicing them instead of firing on them.
@LeftyOX See i like the idea of them implementing something of a halo series melee system, or even making the knife a whole other weapon you have to switch to to use, like in the Counter Strike series, but i and others agree that the knifing system in CoD is complete shit, and honestly the panic knifing is the thing that bugs me the most.
See what i like about your videos is that your not scared to speak your mind and tell people who hate on you to fuck off, you could easily improve the game.:D
I like what you said about Halo-- from behind there should be an instant kill but an animation for it like the Reach assassination system or Battlefield victimized stabbing from behind so you can't knife 10 people within 2 seconds. From the front it should be a 2 knife kill.
HeWhoBreedsPesilence 2 days ago
Treyarch/IW should make it where you have to take out your knife first so we don't get panic knifed a mile away .-.
PastoriusFender 5 days ago
i stabbed someone twice while his in final stand and got hitmarkers and he didnt fucking die
xCMpunkgts 1 week ago
i hate the lunging in this game -_- not like mw2 lunge but its still some pretty insane lunge at times
xiiAir 2 weeks ago
Well then what do you suggest for the game to make it more balanced?
Also, if it took 2 knifes to kill someone then it would be useless to even try
readysetguitar 2 weeks ago
that would preserve the developers intent of a reactionary knife attack. two players round a corner, the first to react gets two slices in first. the other player has a chance to react, maybe back off and shoot or whatever
WeyandtUSMC 1 month ago
i think its ridiculous that my fully automatic rifle shooting you in the face wont prevent you from lunging at me and killing me instantly with a knife to anywhere on the body. perhaps a certain amount of damage should stop a knife lunge? or perhaps do it like Counter Strike; 2(or 3 cant remember) slices to the body, one to the head or back.
WeyandtUSMC 1 month ago
In battlefield 3 kinfing is perfect, you have to physicaly take out your knife before you use it,
YouScratchedMyAnchor 1 month ago
I cant knife, i play on tactical, cause im not shit
YouScratchedMyAnchor 1 month ago
I've always found that funny. Lead-core bullets flying through the air at more that 200mph aren't an instant kill, yet a flimsy blade is.
hconard1968 1 month ago
i think you should always have a knife but have to equip it
CpUnleashedII 1 month ago
Knifing is indeed overpowered, I think it should be re-balanced.
LordBrewergamer 1 month ago
@LeftyOX With the range on the knife I don't mind it and yes I get panic killed but not that often not like MW2. What is the difference of the knife being OP and the QSing (which you do alot) being OP. Please dont give me the bs that it takes skill to QS it doesn't esp with modders you see all over. Also the time issue is null because a QS you dont aim. That being said I would be OK if the knife insta kill was the the back only.I would like to see larger maps as long as you can move within them
SolidMustangP51 1 month ago
lol tactical ftw
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Insta kill melee is sooo very balanced in mw3.. maybe even under powered.. Mw2 it was balanced if not using commando, and black ops.. almost useless, if you're going to bitch because you let someone get that close to you, then play black ops.. and the reason halo is a two hit melee is because there's WAY more health.. yes panic knifing is annoying but you had it coming.[:
JakeOpTioNaL 1 month ago
@JakeOpTioNaL You haven't explained exactly how it is or even was balanced other than to simply state that it is that way. That's not a very effective argument. Nothing else in this series, save for a few killstreaks and the odd no-scope, is an insta-kill; even OHK weapons like sniper rifles take time to aim. There is no reason (save for making the game more accessible to noobs) knifing should an insta-kill placed on a primary controller button.
LeftyOX 1 month ago 2
call of duty is fast paced think about it just wouldnt be the same. Don't get me wrong I rage at it too sometimes because im a sniper and its annoying when kids panic knife. However I wouldnt change it because I think It would mess up the pace of the game
iiSleazzy 1 month ago
Lefty is just talking. there should be no hate on this video. it's his opinion. personally, i don't know if i agree or disagree. All i know is that i play Battlefield, and it feels like the most balanced FPS i've played in a while.
Inpersona64 1 month ago
I was once in a 11 killstreak and a guy panic knifed me.
And he took like 3 shots to the chest of an freaking SCAR-L
OwnedByABigZombie 1 month ago
Your dogmatic.
0cool08 1 month ago
bf3 has a good knife system
EwanMands 1 month ago
i've always thought the fact that you can take 3 bullets from an smg to the chest, but only one knife, is stupid. down with the knife,
mmallory22 1 month ago
Knifing uses an instant win panic button. Hmmmm............
iwreckthefun 1 month ago
2 hit knife to the front, one from the back?
SANSTORMER 1 month ago
Knifing in MW3 isnt useful anyway.
Hand0fMercy 1 month ago
mw2 how u can melee farther is fucking gay and cannot happen in real life pluse when u have a gun out u take out ur knife like nothing hope they change dat cuse i hate it when i shoot them they run through my bullets and stab me in a long distance
enrique4086 1 month ago
You should only be able to insta knife kill with a weapon you pull out. So you cannot shoot whatsoever if you have this weapon equipped. Sort of like the ballistic knife but would also replace primary.
loversdie 1 month ago
Teleport through bullets and knife fucking gay
Sassaphraz 1 month ago
I hate the knife lunge in MW3 its like a "junior" commando melee !! :P
mrangrymike1 1 month ago
Having to take out the knife before being able to kill with it (like a secondary) would probably solve the problem :d
TheMaueri 1 month ago 3
@TheMaueri But i'm sure people would mmuch rather use other secondary weapons...
readysetguitar 2 weeks ago
The idea I had to fix the knifing was to just make the current Tactical layout the Default layout, and not even have the current default layout in the game.That way, everyone has the knifing button at the same spot and then everyone has an equal chance of being the faster knifer.
MrStephen920 1 month ago
@MrStephen920 There is no such thing as an equal chance between a four bar connection and a three bar connection !
mrangrymike1 1 month ago
@MrStephen920 I think you are on to something. The fact that I use the tactical button layout gives me a disadvantage because in order to knife someone I have to take my thumb off the control stick in order to push the melee button! Although I do use tactical so I can drop shot much easier, and the kills I get from dropshotting people might balance out with the kills people get with their faster melee's.
Laker4Life2112 1 month ago
i agree with everything you said
TristanCODfan 1 month ago
i hate how i can't run through other peoples bullets and knife them but they can do that to me
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i agree. knifing on cod isnt real. a lil cut on the arm shouldnt kill you. you have to actually stab someone like in battlefield.
gitter217 1 month ago
wtf knifing is the only thing that makes cod fun anymore and try-hards like you are just what makes it so fun
nombrejr 1 month ago
The weapon I've been killed by the most when using Shotguns is definitely the knife, perhaps only beaten by the PP90 and Type 95.
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The problem I feel about the idea of changing the knife system is that, as you said, the action is very much "high speed". In COD, there just isn't enough time for a multi-hit melee when you eat a Type-95 burst or have to deal with rapid fire weapons. It does suck when you get knifed, but at the other end, how many times has that knife missed, and that player is now at your mercy due to the rather large recovery time. To cite Battlefield, maybe you can just make it an alternate weapon?
TheDebtmeiser 1 month ago
Lefty, DOnt you think it would be quicker to cover what is "balanced".
GODLY707 1 month ago
Does Knifing give you That 1 second Invincibility To kill that person or what?
Cuz Like The Top Comment (Or The Last Top Comment) I hate how people can run right throught my bullets (That are on my target) and knife me
ghostinashadow 1 month ago
i prefer one knife kills over trying to hit constantly over and over again. It does fit in with smaller maps
FrazzyNZ 1 month ago
i already pick woodland camo more its same tone but has camo with it
FrazzyNZ 1 month ago
U r so right Lefty! #nomoreknifing
RocJeezle 1 month ago
msr, hitmarker, knife in da face, discovers what the inside of a controller looks like. ( true story )
methardris 1 month ago
I sorta agree with you Lefty, I just want to say ONLYUSEmeBLADE doesn't agree with you.. lol :D
Tomahawk4Daiz 1 month ago
I don't see how this is op, I love putting 3 bullets in someones head from 2 feet away only to have them turn into a god and instantly kill me
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totally agree lefty. i love your opinions but yes the melee system should be like halo or even battlefield.
Patriotkid1285 1 month ago
i think if tactical was the default button config, knifing wudnt be an issue... i fukin hate gettin knifed
elburko666 1 month ago
Knifing is overpowered
dubstepOP 1 month ago 2
Good vid... all that said it is still incredibly hard to do well "knife-only." That aside, I think it was Wings who said that the knife should do the same damage as the health you have. Say i turn a corner and fire at a guy, he's now on 40% health... his knife lunge would only take 40% off me. This would make "panic" knifing redundant and focus the game once more on gun on gun gameplay (regarding connection between the players is relatively ok)... Keep up the good work Lefty
gabZb 1 month ago 2
nice lefty keep it up totally agree thats why a subbed cause of info and negativity lol
TossyC1 1 month ago
Nobody really gives a shit, it's a game. Stop complaining.
jamesta08 1 month ago
Knifing from behind, dont mind it. Panic knifers.....bullshit
rocketwheeler 1 month ago
@sloanschafer17 No because if you turn a corner one persons using tactical button lay out the other default, the default player just panic's jams the right stick and your dead now where's the skill in that and how is it fare? Also what about when you run past someone and panic knife and still get the kill even when you've both run past each other. Personly I hate the knife in cod it should be a secondary weapon pull it out and it's a instant kill use the standard knife then it's a 2 hit
dicksplatts007 1 month ago
i never new left was native americian
winstonis6 1 month ago
eh, i kind of see what your saying Lefty but at the same time whose gonna survive a knife to the face, heart or lung?
To a certain degree i do beleive that the knifing system needs a revise bonus to that being if you want a 1 shot knife you have to be a little smart + sneaky to get behind them but this far into the MW series it might potentially f- up a cod veterans day.
HOWEVER! At least now its not 'as bad' (i want to say) as Mw2 w/ commando -.-
G4M3R5166 1 month ago
@G4M3R5166 Realism has no place in cod,. For example. sniper hitmarkers.
DomePieceStudios 1 month ago
@DomePieceStudios haha, good point.
G4M3R5166 1 month ago
Bringing halo into this argument is irrelevant. It's a completely different game. If you can go up to someone on this game without dying you should get the instant kill. It's fine and it won't change so dont bitch about it
sloanschafer17 1 month ago
@sloanschafer17 grow up.
DomePieceStudios 1 month ago
I think the way to balance knifing but still not eliminate the guys who love to knife would be to make a primary weapon such as the balistic knife such as the one in BO a 1 hit kill from front or back then make a regular knife a 1 hit from the back and a 2 hit from the front or sides. So if you wanna knife like a BOSS you arent going to be shooting me with a beast weapon too.
g6923 1 month ago
noobs like it so it will never change
mrlegkick666 1 month ago
You can have an insta-kill melee system. It worked in COD4 where there wasn't any aiming on the person by the game, this was altleast the case for the PC variant. But as it works in the recent games it is indeed overpowered. You don't have to be even near a person to knife and not even near a person to kill them. Also the ability to knife people after you're hit 2/3 times and are near death is simply said: Bullshit.
th33nd0fy0u 1 month ago
I agree and dissagree!! But nice vid!! I really think they should look at the Battlefield 3 Melee or just change to something else!!!
sydneyswansrules 1 month ago
In your next commentary, please talk about something positive so everybody gets mad after watching your videos...
zzTomaHawKzz 1 month ago
I play battlefield and I think what they did in bf3 is a wonderful idea. 2 hit from in front and a animation knife kill from behind so it still takes time to knife someone. Love your bids lefty keep em comin
xminecraftFANx 1 month ago
Knifing has always been overpowered towards the panic knifers. I have been going blade only since Black Ops for the challenge and it is just absolutely ridiculous at times.
ViAxNiNjA 1 month ago
Equipable knife or remove the default right analog stick knifing.
MyNameIsPate 1 month ago
YES! I 100% Agree. Theres been a few of your videos where Ive been abit meh, abit wooo, a bit way but I agree wholeheartedly (If thats a word haha) that knifing is unbalanced. There should be no 100% insta weapon/method in any game. 2 hits for the kill. Gears and Battlefield have it right. Btw great video.
2007dillon2007 1 month ago
Completely agree with u bro. I hate it wen I get panic knifed. Also battlefield has a good system, where it takes 3 at full health. Only wen u stab them with the animation does it instantly kill them. Cod melee should be liked battlefield, to eliminate panic knifing.
Thetaco42 1 month ago
The reason why it works in Halo is because it takes so long to kill somone in halo. one knife has a delay of 2 seconds which is enough time for the person you knifed you the front to drop shot you to death
Jaywuster 1 month ago
MW3 with no knifing would be a stupid idea with no knifing people will just be running around hip fire each other. and if you just dumb knifing down to 2 hit for a kill no won will knife at all. i thank knifing has the perfect balance in MW3.
PolawRow 1 month ago
@PolawRow you clearly panic knife
kickass8128 1 month ago
@PolawRow
"no knifing people will just be running around hip fire each other"
"knifing down to 2 hit for a kill no won will knife at all"
Sounds awesome.
Drakerot 1 month ago
treyarch is changing the melee system for their next game. just like fourzerotwo said they would do for mw3 but didn't....
3boredudes 1 month ago
i hate how people can run through my bullets and knife me
QuinceyTp 1 month ago 35
@QuinceyTp I hate how people can absord an entire magazine of mine at five feet and still kill me.
taiko729 1 month ago
@QuinceyTp AMEN!
WWJerkers 1 month ago
Just take out the knife make the stick just to move with
jmh0697 1 month ago
The BF3 melee works very well, I have not been panic knifed in that game at all, in MW3 however it happens almost every game
squintsG10 1 month ago
Or just make melee attack viable when using weapons like tactical knife or ballistic knife, puttin you at a great disadvantage to use knife
GunnarsXbox 1 month ago
honestly, a panic knife should just turn a players screen red and disorient them for a second. If it takes 3-5 bullets to get a kill, a knife shouldn't do it in one. How about insta-kills from a throwing knife to the foot? Talk about ridiculous!
Nemesis11FP 1 month ago
@Nemesis11FP well the throwing knife is just a novelty. and knifing someone in the throat would kill them much faster than a few bullets to the chest, but video games don't simulate real warfare and CoD is a prime example of that.
clancym1 1 month ago
Two words... Ballistic Vest
Nemesis11FP 1 month ago
@Nemesis11FP still 1 hit kill
theheat808 1 month ago
I don't see how anyone can call it 'unbalanced', Lefty implied, that he wouldn't mind a system like halo where it was a single strike from behind and two from the front; If you approach someone from the front you and them have an equal chance of knifing each other, the only unbalance that could occur is from connection alone. It seems as though people simply winge because either they don't have the reaction speed to knife, or the mental capacity to comprehend using something other than a gun.
TheHunter117 1 month ago
@TheHunter117 So? It doesn't matter if two players have equal chance to knife. The fact is that knifing as an absolute insta-kill is unbalanced with every other facet of the game. Why are you talking about "equal chance to knife"? That makes no sense.
LeftyOX 1 month ago 17
@LeftyOX The reason why knifing IS balanced is because everyone has ability to use their knife in a one vs one situation, if you are at a point blank distance from an enemy why choose to use a gun other than a shotgun.
With this in mind, can you tell me exactly what is imbalanced about having a reflex based game mechanic that rewards those with faster reactions, the fairest response I have heard is the part that lag plays, but I have not heard any reasonable critiques of the concept itself.
TheHunter117 1 month ago
@TheHunter117 Knifing IS NOT balanced because it overpowers guns in many CQB situations. I can't count the number of times I've gotten 2 or 3 hitmarkers with a gun, just to be knifed by someone, who teleports 2-3 meters or turns 90 degrees.
JoToft 1 month ago
@LeftyOX i love Halo and i loved ninja slapping tryhards from the back. Halo 3 best 1st person shooter of all time @TheHunter117 if you think the painc knife is a skill go and kill yourself lol joke
90Gilbow 1 month ago
@LeftyOX to get rid of insta-kill melee they need to get rid of knifing and use melee with weapons
FrazzyNZ 1 month ago
@LeftyOX I dont quite agree with what you say, while you have some valid points, others are not. the reason that halo has a double bash kill, i believe, is because its health system is much diff. its snipers also dont one hit, and takes much more normal bullets to one hit. the health in that game is 150%-200% cod health. in order to deal with the OP 2 hit guns you have to have one hit knife
imcomstockable 1 month ago
@TheHunter117 shush u silly man i dont give two shits if we have a "equal chance to knife" its bullshit i get a hitmarker with my pump action shotgun and then u knife me and i die??... thats bullshit. not to mention it locks on like a fuckin heat seeking missle its bullshit i cant understand how your having trouble with this its simple
mrlegkick666 1 month ago
@TheHunter117 the speed reaction yo knife? oh god, people are to slow to even click the shooting button so they always die, so they panic knife, the only people who defend knifing are people who are shit at playing the game and hope their knife will save them. once again i say it, people who suck at the game love the knife (you love you knife cause your shit)
Cameron12345678100 1 month ago
@Cameron12345678100 speed reation to knife*
Cameron12345678100 1 month ago
@Cameron12345678100 I bet I do better than you when I'm knife-only. Nice theory btw.
sobbo123 2 weeks ago
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jeffhardyisthebestin 1 month ago
I'm of the same opinion of ErriotSmerriot. It would make it more Halo-esque and a lot of people would be pissed but it would put the focus back on the gun play. If they want a one hit kill melee then it should, again, be like Halo with designated weapons(the Energy Sword and Gravity Hammer) that deliver that instant satisfaction.
SpartanAceMe2 1 month ago
Make it like CS:S where your knife is a separate weapon and it requires immense skill and stealth to achieve a knife kill. Or even like quake, because the glove was a separate weapon aswell. My point is that knifing someone in a multiplayer video game used to be seen as a hard feat to accomplish. Now, because of Cod, its just BS.
Bugsly64 1 month ago
I think it should be a weapon bunt. Where you hit them with your weapon and make a two hit kill unless already damaged, The bigger the weapon the slower the melee.
ErriotSmerriot 1 month ago
Halo melee system? It takes a shitload longer to kill somebody in Halo, the melee system was in sync with that. You can kill people far more quickly in CoD, so this melee system runs alongside that. I have never had an issue with being knifed in MW3. Commando in MW2 is a different story entirely, but there are far more things that I have an issue with than knifing.
Ozralia 1 month ago
You should only be able to knife people if you are behind them. The amount of times i walk around a corner, go to dropshot and get panic knifed is unreal.
iCrushNZ 1 month ago
"We cannot allow" -> lawl.
Ozralia 1 month ago
Knifing is - disgusting, atrocious, gamebreaking, frustrating... I hate it. The way it is now, NO melee would work better.
TDTheTruth 1 month ago
i bet u one of those dislikes is by Onlyusemeblade
rahanamri 1 month ago
i think 2 hit kill knife, but u replenish quickly after u knife so its more balanced
xFierCeSouL 1 month ago
@xFierCeSouL i hit from behind two from front
MrWatchaSay1 1 month ago
for me the knife should take a sertain amount of damage eg: 50% of health
TomiFridrichGaming 1 month ago
The knife should at least take time to pull out, such as in BF:BC2, or it should be like Halo/BF3 where it's always a one-hit from behind but it's two+ hits from the front. The auto-aim for the knife should also be disabled completely. If you're using the knife, it should be from a range where a hit is guaranteed when you're on target, no assistance required. So basically, slash-only, plus a smaller hit cone, maybe half as wide as it is now.
waffman11 1 month ago
2 hit kill would fix this problem fosho
DirtyLisker 1 month ago
it should be like bf3 where u have to actually have out ur knife
thematt121295 1 month ago
melee will always be 1 hit, get over it.
KidDope1995 1 month ago
i think for the melee you should use your gun
the guy should be like in final stand but not capable of shooting
LucasT2096 1 month ago
I use the bumper bash controls on halo >.>
MrMultiBunneh 1 month ago
bf3 got the knife dsystem right
crazy0ace1 1 month ago
in Halo, the ttk with a gun is so long that the two hit melee is a valid option. In cod, the ttk is so short that if the knife took two hits, it would be totally useless vs any other weapon.. imho
QuadFishSurfer 1 month ago
when u talk about halo u hav to take in consideration that the characters have a huge amount health it takes almost half a clip if u are accurate to kill. at least w/ the machine guns. this is wat makes the melee 2 hits, but in cod u hav a 3-4 shot kill with most guns a 2 hit melee would be completely useless the only thing they should change is the lunge be having none wat so ever
TheCornSyurp 1 month ago
The knife should be its own weapon like the ballistic knife or tac. knife. If you don't have it out, then you can't knife for a 1 hit kill but instead pistol whip for a 2 hit kill.
explodingowl 1 month ago
halo melee works because u have 300 helath
onlyusemecrossbow98 1 month ago
the knfie is unpowered
onlyusemecrossbow98 1 month ago 2
The people that bitch about you Lefty in this vid and dislike are the ones who play Default. Tactical should be the "Default" and the current default shouldnt be in the game.
tehVinyl 1 month ago
Get rid of the knife. Should be pistol whip instead. Where do u pull the knife from anyway??
deanjks 1 month ago
I wonder what ONLYUSEmeBLADE thinks about this issue?
GC84ever 1 month ago
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Lol that happened to me after black ops got patched
TangNZangProductions 1 month ago
Lefty you have no idea how long I have been waiting for you to address this....
Itachi10180 1 month ago
if they do change the knife system, that would suck for the only knifing player
Abdurahim4898 1 month ago
Keep the melee shit
lilbondeck1 1 month ago
Few years ago but I played the original Call of Duty. Melee was great. Pistol whips and no knives. Not all CoDs suffered!
Ozzgriff 1 month ago
Is it just me or do his videos load really slow?
mirzacisija 1 month ago
thank god!
ItsThizz 1 month ago
i've always loathed the knifing mechanic in this game. if knifing is a 1 hit kill, it should be a separate weapon. otherwise, it should be a two hit kill.
but this is wishful thinking, robert bowling isn't even taking out dead man's hand even though the entire community is telling him he's fucking retarded.
clancym1 1 month ago
2hit
kevinorkayvan 1 month ago
THANK YOU!!! im not alone!!!
specialk3216 1 month ago
They need to fix it
eelgrass765 1 month ago
Lefty thinks he is cool LOL but hes ice cold :O i think thats from a song :D
overtflow 1 month ago
i love how u dont give a shit ;D
Its ur channel u can upload what u want i dont mind and people shouldn't to ;)
Palmhoejnielsen 1 month ago
I love you channel oh so much ! You are so informative with everything, and you touch on every subject of the game! Glad I'm a subscriber!
TFcollector 1 month ago
i think bf3 is simular to halos... dunno how to fix that one tho for cod
studmike311 1 month ago
boy i cant wait till OnlyUseMeBlade sees this video LAWL!!
bwodhams 1 month ago
knifing is stupid and should be a 2 hit kill unless your using a tact knife
WhiteAndNerdy1100 1 month ago 2
getting panic knifed is the most fustrating way to die
LDstriker9 1 month ago 25
@LDstriker9 nah getting killed right before a MOAB by a killstreak like pred or stealth is
rahanamri 1 month ago
Don't ever knife in this game. it cost me a moab. I shot someone in final stand. I tried to knife him because i wanted to poo on this kid. I teleport to this person. Put my knife in his skull and he didn't die. Then I'm helpless and he knives me....
jurgenjac 1 month ago
it should only be an instakill if u have tactical knife thats it
DaVaDzIs1 1 month ago
How the fuck is an instant kill panic kill at close range not a cheap kill?
iwreckthefun 1 month ago
Melee with the gun is better or knifing like bf3
bearfg9000 1 month ago
They should just take out knifing. Does not show skill.
14721mark 1 month ago
I belieeve if they don't fix the root cause of this one hit kill wonder, at least make it so that a knife ONLY to the back will be a one hit kill.
adoborulezzz 1 month ago
hey Lefty im wondering if you agree: if you are up close and both of you knife the game randomly chooses a "victor"
rabidsquirrelfur 1 month ago
@rabidsquirrelfur no, host / connection decides that
BoltYourAction 1 month ago
i think ur trying to make a game like BF3 in COD nd personally i would love that...but i am glad that u bring issues of COD up constantly bc it keeps me playing and loving bf3 more and moar bc there is less to no bullshit...the only op thing in bf3 is frag rounds on usas nd shotguns
Joelthelobo 1 month ago
Anyone who has been a "hardcore" player of the CoD series for a good amount of time and has actually played other FPS games will realize that your statement, albeit sugar coated, is 100% correct. What do these people think the term "panic-knife" came from? I've starting noticing it more and more as the franchise gets bigger. Liked and favorited.
SemiFiction08 1 month ago
you should have to pull out your blade so you have to us ether your gun or the knife
zeo221 1 month ago
Knifing is my main hate so far with the game
TheVorodor 1 month ago
the knifing in battlefield 3 is wayyy better
n00b4444 1 month ago
knifing is way fucked up. so unpredicatable and ballsack rip rageeee
keegan3219 1 month ago
I think there should be no melee at all so you always have to use your gun to get a kill up close
TheBradblast 1 month ago 22
@TheBradblast No knifing means no ONLYUSEmeBLADE, who's really entertaining to watch, but I somewhat agree with you.
conwon912 1 month ago
@TheBradblast and when you run out of ammo and theres nothing in the immediate vicinity to pick up, you just get fucked up?
knotdrummer88 1 month ago
i think knifing is underpowered
Furyconquest 1 month ago
I hate getting panic knifed so much, loved the commentary
Jiijak 1 month ago
They should keep the range of the knife, but make the knife like battlefield 3's. That way it takes time and you can use it as a full time weapon.
aCODguru 1 month ago
People stop getting mad and saying all he does is complain. He's a critic and he criticizes things. Thats what he does if you don't like that why are you here? To complain? I'm sure he dosn't want your opinion if thats what your here for.
ScreamZify 1 month ago
FINALLY. I have been trying to make this point since the days if commando! Thank You!
blackbelt1066 1 month ago
I completely agree.
MrHoneyChicken 1 month ago
i dont like comparing games...but the knife should be bf3 style...that is as balanced as it gets..it cant be a 2 hit kill ..the only time this works is in games like halo because in halo the life is huge when it comes to bullet damage.. the knife would be usless becuase once you get a hit marker with the knife..in COD you will die fast.
moneymanjose1 1 month ago
@moneymanjose1 its a first person shooter, you should be using your gun not relying on your knife, the point is that knifing should be viewed as a last resort option instead of people panicing every time they get close to someone and slicing them instead of firing on them.
BreakingSocialNorms 1 month ago
@LeftyOX See i like the idea of them implementing something of a halo series melee system, or even making the knife a whole other weapon you have to switch to to use, like in the Counter Strike series, but i and others agree that the knifing system in CoD is complete shit, and honestly the panic knifing is the thing that bugs me the most.
See what i like about your videos is that your not scared to speak your mind and tell people who hate on you to fuck off, you could easily improve the game.:D
Lilbforce 1 month ago
This is why I <3 U Lefty, you say what you want to and dont care about what other people say :) Keep up the great work
DaGoldenState559 1 month ago
All I have to say is...make it similar to BF3