What a great conceptual exercise. Choreography, performance, location etc. aside, (all of which have great impact) this is about the editing process right? So from that point, it's quite intense, difficult to digest visually after a while. One thought: I'd love to see it retrace itself, taking me back through the rhythm to where is came. I wonder how the algorithm would work in a reverse fashion, another mirror of the retrograde used in the choreography? just a thought.
I like it a lot as well. It draws me into a changing figure/ground. I'm pulled between dancer and background, depending upon the relative speed of movement & cuts, density of info in the background, and probably other things... Quick cuts abstracted a moving figure in the background, making it unusually curious, intrusive. With sound off I found it easier to "read"; with it on, it increased the visceral impact. Interested in how parameters vary in the algorithm to affect this texture.
I got the vibration thing and loved it! Overwhelming and satisfying. I actually felt that her vibration was a result of the rush of being everywhere and nowhere at once. This was my felt sense as a viewer and not based on anything analytical... As a matter of fact if I had to analyze the movement itself, I'd say that I found very little investment in it which is the way of the postmodern/release trend, and probably why I connected more to the somewhat passionate hip and hair tosses.
i´d be curious what would be the result with some dynamics in the background (children playground-joggers in the park -traffic-etc) or if keeping static landscape, to position the dancer at variuos distance/position in the frame. Adriana
Nice images and dancing. Now for cranky: Somewhat bored of dancers appearing to have no interest in their environment. What's the point of a site specific shootings if all that's pictured is a dancer making a good show of getting into their feelings. The editing and choreography only reinforce this as if saying: It doesn't matter where this dancer is dancing. It's the same dance, and they couldn't care less.
algorithmic editing lacks in feeling for what i can see,but it s a nice exercise which reflects the world we live in, being everywhere and no where at once.
when watching i loose my own center and the fast editing hurts my eyes.
I would like to see the vibrations of the body not as an inability but as a victory.
Hi -- it's Mark. This film is a prototype... your comments are very useful as we move towards the final version. (We choreographed, shot and edited this version in a total of three days.) Using chroma/luma key was not the point for us; the vibration in the body, which comes from the inability of the dancer to precisely replicate her position in each location, was key. Our first attempt was shot from one angle. Here we wanted to explore cinematic grammar and the rhythm of the algorithmic editing.
Hi Mark. Like the locations and the use of 'match on action' or using the choreography and movement to transition from place to place. Very Maya Deren from 'Study in Choreography for Camera.' Nice colours too. I personally like repitition in dancefilms, but this was too much. Couldn't tell if you were scrolling through all the locations, but there needed to be more variety in terms of pacing. Nice dancer, and movement. Best, Evann
I agree with miklavcic that the concept outshines the product though I dont think the solution is that which he prescribes. Perhaps develop what the consequences are of the concept: the continuity of the translocated body. I would love to see that in the dancing so that it is more than a remapping of a phrase.
Mark, the effect and concept is cool but after a while you loose the reason for doing it and it turns into a hey-look-at-what-I-can-do trick. It eventually becomes visually annoying. Maybe looking at how you can sometimes transition each of the backgrounds with morphs, luma/chroma key dissolves or other techniques. The piece needs to require the effect.
if you have nothing to say with your danca, play with the camera...
tippeli 3 years ago
mind blowing piece. powerful and inspiring. thanks.
noiseinc 3 years ago
Freaking beautiful
mergenmergen 4 years ago
i think its fab, the way the bodies movement is distorted! great choreography again from Dawn!
emilyidance 4 years ago
What a great conceptual exercise. Choreography, performance, location etc. aside, (all of which have great impact) this is about the editing process right? So from that point, it's quite intense, difficult to digest visually after a while. One thought: I'd love to see it retrace itself, taking me back through the rhythm to where is came. I wonder how the algorithm would work in a reverse fashion, another mirror of the retrograde used in the choreography? just a thought.
carolinebindon 4 years ago
I like it a lot as well. It draws me into a changing figure/ground. I'm pulled between dancer and background, depending upon the relative speed of movement & cuts, density of info in the background, and probably other things... Quick cuts abstracted a moving figure in the background, making it unusually curious, intrusive. With sound off I found it easier to "read"; with it on, it increased the visceral impact. Interested in how parameters vary in the algorithm to affect this texture.
edwinadkins 4 years ago
I got the vibration thing and loved it! Overwhelming and satisfying. I actually felt that her vibration was a result of the rush of being everywhere and nowhere at once. This was my felt sense as a viewer and not based on anything analytical... As a matter of fact if I had to analyze the movement itself, I'd say that I found very little investment in it which is the way of the postmodern/release trend, and probably why I connected more to the somewhat passionate hip and hair tosses.
venturedance 4 years ago
woahw! I love it!
An MTV-like hour squeezed into 3:10!?!
i´d be curious what would be the result with some dynamics in the background (children playground-joggers in the park -traffic-etc) or if keeping static landscape, to position the dancer at variuos distance/position in the frame. Adriana
adagioconbrio 4 years ago
Nice images and dancing. Now for cranky: Somewhat bored of dancers appearing to have no interest in their environment. What's the point of a site specific shootings if all that's pictured is a dancer making a good show of getting into their feelings. The editing and choreography only reinforce this as if saying: It doesn't matter where this dancer is dancing. It's the same dance, and they couldn't care less.
Green screen next time?
justinmorrison 4 years ago
algorithmic editing lacks in feeling for what i can see,but it s a nice exercise which reflects the world we live in, being everywhere and no where at once.
when watching i loose my own center and the fast editing hurts my eyes.
I would like to see the vibrations of the body not as an inability but as a victory.
all the best.
domino1569 4 years ago
Hi -- it's Mark. This film is a prototype... your comments are very useful as we move towards the final version. (We choreographed, shot and edited this version in a total of three days.) Using chroma/luma key was not the point for us; the vibration in the body, which comes from the inability of the dancer to precisely replicate her position in each location, was key. Our first attempt was shot from one angle. Here we wanted to explore cinematic grammar and the rhythm of the algorithmic editing.
MrMarkDNA 4 years ago
Hi Mark. Like the locations and the use of 'match on action' or using the choreography and movement to transition from place to place. Very Maya Deren from 'Study in Choreography for Camera.' Nice colours too. I personally like repitition in dancefilms, but this was too much. Couldn't tell if you were scrolling through all the locations, but there needed to be more variety in terms of pacing. Nice dancer, and movement. Best, Evann
evannsiebens 4 years ago
I agree with miklavcic that the concept outshines the product though I dont think the solution is that which he prescribes. Perhaps develop what the consequences are of the concept: the continuity of the translocated body. I would love to see that in the dancing so that it is more than a remapping of a phrase.
trismegis 4 years ago
Mark, the effect and concept is cool but after a while you loose the reason for doing it and it turns into a hey-look-at-what-I-can-do trick. It eventually becomes visually annoying. Maybe looking at how you can sometimes transition each of the backgrounds with morphs, luma/chroma key dissolves or other techniques. The piece needs to require the effect.
Just my buck-three-eighty bit of advice. :-)
miklavcic 4 years ago