DOG TRAINING- Training a scared dog

[daconverse]

good job!

[KrunchMonster1]

this dog looks so much more relaxed and happier at the end of this video. I can't see that "punishment" was used here and if it was you would not see the dog so relaxed and willing at the end.

[31apache48]

No-one wants to punish an already nervous dog. If its ok for humans than its ok for pets. Would you strap one of these things to your kids??? I know I wouldn't.

Is punishment the anwer?

[31apache48]

There are so many views on Positive re. and Neg. Reinforcement and traditional v modern training methods sometimes dog sports ie. agility, jumping edurance can help build confidence for nervous dogs. Just focus on fun for your nervous dog can rebuild confidence. Thats just my oppinion.

[Sabot46290]

This is the best explanation of the e-collar I have heard. The sad thing is, no one has yet allowed me to show them that it doesn't hurt...they'll accept the explanation and the whole "invisible leash" thing, but the world will end before they'll let the probes touch their skin. I don't 'shock' dogs and I'm not going to 'shock' you, for goodness' sake!

[PetNewsUSA]

Dog trainers need to further they're education if they are going to be using psychology terms. Please read Conditional response psychology notes on a psychology website not a dog trainers. If your nose is itchy,scratch it. Scratching is reinforced, itchy is not punishment. If you have a headache take an aspirin, aspirin is reinforced. You learn through your own actions and are not forced to take an aspirin. This is aversive stimuli but as an annoyance not painful.

[PetNewsUSA]

Aversive does not mean pain. If you have a slight headache and I yell take an aspirin then you say no, and in return I push a button and say now! And your headache gets worse? Thats called positive punishment. Fred is using negative reinforcemt and is looked upon by science as the fastest way to learn in combination with positive reinforcement such as petting ,tug toy or treats. His system works. Its funny how dog trainers think they are like psychologist LOL

[PetNewsUSA]

I would also like to add that positive punishment and negative reinforcement are not the same thing otherwise there would be no need for separate definitions. Furthermore to "cathygo" yes it does work in the long run because if you are consistent it becomes classically conditioned, just like using positive reinforcement. there is no need to learn the behavior first. We all learn through operant conditioning (trial and error) the very exercise IS THE LEARNING PROCESS. Fred has a good system :)

[2marielouise]

I feel ya! I saw some other videos of yours & I was impressed. I realize that some behaviors are easier taught with a reinforcement/punishment combo. I also know the collars are only on until the behavior is learned. The mixed emotions was just cause punishment was used on a fearful dog..different.

[fredhassen]

What in this video leads you to believe that punishment was used on the dog, and how familiar with our program are you?

[2marielouise]

positive punishment is presenting an aversive stimulus in order to decrease the likelihood of a behavior reoccurring.

I'm not familiar with this program at all. saw the video & commented. I realize you are using the e-collar as a marker to communicate, "no, that's not what I wanted". I know you are not hurting the dog.

[2marielouise]

mixed emotions about this... punishment, let alone positive punishment, is not effective for long-term successful behavior modification.

replacement behaviors are most effective. she was still really insecure when on that leash.

[fredhassen]

Well, we are the most successful U.S. based dog training company in the history of the United States.......but we are more than willing to always learn more. Show us what you got. That's the great thing about youtube, you get to SHOW a better way, and you sound pretty confident that you've got it going on. Join the videos with us, and help the dog training community raise to a higher level. Happy training!

[charlio744]

I'm not sure where you're getting the idea that the dog is being punished??

[2marielouise]

please look up the definition of punishment or read the definition provided above.

[CathyGo]

Idiot constantly lets her dog hide behind her and pets her when she's scared. No wonder the dog stayed scared. E Collar wasn't necessary.

[wolfydan121]

i partially agree, nurturing a dogs fear can cause catastrophic problems. the e-collar isnt quite as harsh as you may believe though. :old school" shock collars were cruell, but the new ones are not much more than a tingle to dissuade/distract from negative behaviour. its just a way to speed things up! ^_^

[CathyGo]

Educating the owner about dog behavior is probably more productive long term than "fixing" one behavior by pushing a button. I know e collars don't hurt. I've stimmed myself with one. You used avoidance training to teach the dog the only "safe" place is right beside her owner. Looks amazing to those who don't understand dog training. It isn't fair to start stimming the dog until it has a clear idea of what you want.

[sabumitz]

Sorry but I didn't see a 'confident' dog, it was doing what its owner wanted, but with confidence? A good start perhaps but scared dogs don't just 'turn' confident.

[punkernuns]

this music is epic!

[1SMSFAN]

Honey is one lucky dog. To have Fred Hassen and Alfredo Rivera come help her and her owner. There was noooo way she was going to fail.

[moelicious1]

Nice explaination of the "shock" collar. I use one too and find myself explaining to others that it's a correction collar.