iloveOov vs Nal_Ra (FPVOD)

[epicSockett]

Oov for president. ;D

[angeloberdugo13]

4 scvs for gas?

[ArminP100]

and who's win???

[ScreggaeaficionBw]

@ArminP100 Nal_ra :P

[skrivas]

you all noobs talk a lot but dont know nothing.... FAST EXP WAS FTW! Have a nice day everyone!

[KwikShotAce]

nabuleone your the noob. apparently your too much garbage to understand the game. ive been playing for 8 years so i think i would of figured out simple ways to beat everything. calling me a noob. lol too funny. and thats why you bring vessel and shockwave with wraiths thats cheaper faster killer combo. idiots lol dont make me laugh

[cursedvanity]

@KwikShotAce

hmmmm do you know how much gas that costs?

do you know how much gas that many dropship and goliath/tank cost?

guess who is smarter than you lol

boxer

but also me

[KwikShotAce]

@cursedvanity its been sometime since ive been on. And also were talking about science vessel and wraiths. vessel detects detector you kill it and then laugh as the carriers fall. with shockwave as well they fall easier. again sure boxer may be smarter than me and thats all good. so sorry to burst your hate bubble curse but again experience tramples all

[cursedvanity]

@KwikShotAce i guess youre jaded by your experience then... because you seem to think in sc theres one way to do everything

but that's not true i would know im the smartest person on the internet

my hate bubble encompasses your universe

[armor5guardian]

he should of use ghost to use lockdown so much easy against carriers.

[Nabuleone]

no kwik u retarded noob nal ra has observers

[YoungJaedong]

Thats why you go BoxeR with medics :P

[KwikShotAce]

wraiths would of raped those carriers with cloak

[fuckmerimless69]

oh yeah retard, because the pros always forget to get detectors

[Creation551]

Frigo,

because valkyries are horrible and cost ineffecient vs carriers.

[thfFromRussia]

f****ng cariers :)

[cloud64Xbox360]

y are we watching Oov's game play?

[Killerman2k]

no. iloveoov said "hey i play your race and you mine ?" and nal_ra awnsered "sure thing"

[FrigoCoder]

Why didn't he just use Valkyries ?

[Sovonk]

Beautiful hidden tech by nal_ra. I guess he got lucky that iloveoov didn't do early drops near his stargates.

[fuckmerimless69]

i dont know if it was that hidden, Oov didnt scout it but he started preparing for it way before it happened

[TisSparta]

Yeah they forgot to mute Nal_Ra's play. I can hear the probe making sounds.

[NubOmatic]

oov lost right? Cause he had like 5 goliath towards the end v like 4 or 5 carriers.

[Venim0]

god carriers are gay

[Cloudgb]

EMP+Goliath=OWN

[Galenin]

Lol, did you notice there also were the sounds of someone playing tos in the backround? Like they forgot to mute Nal Ras gameplay while watching iloveOov ... ^^

[TheHOBOnextDOOR]

Nal had some good carrier micro though

[TheHOBOnextDOOR]

the carriers had no chance against that big ass crowd of Goliaths... GG

[themange59]

But he won!

[NUMUESTIKK]

I lold how that's why Nal_rA won? :-D

[NETMR2]

meh

[haoming001]

who won?

[djmirza1]

wery good

[InnocentFormalities]

u all suck, practice is the fault of learning.

[Jukalaboo]

eeh"?

[ChesterDoraemon]

i dont know why no one ever uses lockdown. if you have 200 apm it shouldnt be that hard to make a covert ops

[WillDee87]

are u kidding me.....

[dragoon414]

idiot

[cheecheepong]

anyone know of a good way to get proficient at micro? I don't seem to be improving at all in micro.

[MiZtaHFaNtaZtiK]

Does anyone know the first track that plays?

[guille23691]

siiiii aja.... no me digas

[ibclappin]

of course the guy's micro with carriers was great but the true reason carriers beat golieths there was the map. i agree that vessels would have been very useful with matrix and EMP but the problem was gas.

also, whoever says the guy should've used nuke is a noob.

[teoteous]

I saw a lot of the professional Starcraft tournaments on the game channel but for some reason almost all of the players who used Terran never used Ghosts against the Protoss. I wonder why?

[raymend26]

its all about gas.

[clearout1234]

because it sucks.. if they even tried using it the protoss would own it. its too gas heavy and the tanks are better than the ghosts...

[ibclappin]

if you're talking about lockdown it's a useless path to take. all you need against carriers are golieths and if gas allows, vessels.

[zeejustin6]

why vessels?

[ibclappin]

EMP

[mamelouk69]

pro game, why didn't he make some wraith or some ghosts to counter all these carriers ?

[sigurd104]

cuz building wraiths and ghosts are too gas-intensive. the only way wraiths would be better to use is if he could decisively weaken nal_ra's carrier force without leaving himself open to other forms of attack (i.e. goons and reavers). goliaths are what you use when you're trying to cover all different kinds of attack and the enemy also has a substantial air force.

[GoSuMonSteR]

You Have no idea what you're talking about. You're an idiot.

[woofantango123]

you can do that and i'll be jesus

[MiZtaHFaNtaZtiK]

Song in beginning?

[kenmasters12345]

i would bring oput some ghosts and lockdown

[vietnamese69]

he should of EMP the carries!

[sillyboytomato]

i hate people who always say "emp" use "emp"

"emp" is never used BLa blah blah..

in pvt emp is good but. IT COSTS TOO MUCH GAS. TO upgrade emp, get a science vessel and waste 225 gas and have a GREAT chance of losing it to 7 shots from a dragoon. And instead of getting 2tanks worth of gas. PvT is all about gas, well mostly

[Golden2Talon]

i think he should get emp

^^

[Sovonk]

it would have to be a late game nuke to use an EMP in my opinion, but yeah your right, EMP is pretty hard to compensate with after purchase.

[sillyboytomato]

i really agree. Emp + nuke = dead nexus

[futureblues26]

unless you're playing against a noob toss, you need as many scans as possible... so going for the nuclear silo is just a bad idea. I've personally never seen them used in pro games.

[qianweijia1]

theres one game. i think it was boxer vs reach

[TheOKAY]

isnt his name pronounce "i love oov"

why does everybody say oove?

[clearout1234]

because you pronounce it o o v.. try that for yourself and you'll see^^

[EebstertheGreat]

Clearout, it's actually "oo-oo-vee" ("oo" as in "boot"). I'm not sure why it's spelled that way.

[ganggang3]

meh, protoss owns island maps anyway.

[CrabcakeOG]

balance > you

[nakedidiot]

lol scouting with barracks

[CrabcakeOG]

that's GOOD dude.

[Hankharbinger]

i love i loveoov's expansion style, he just floats an old cc over and dropships in scvs. very fast and efficient.

[chuckycol]

shoulda house the ghost to lock, does it work against carriers or just terran? im bad rofl.

[stoneheart92]

it works against almost all protoss units

[Jst0911]

so annoying. needs to calm down in early beginning

[ShiroGomi]

That would lead to him starting at a slower pace, and once you start to get sluggish, it's very hard to speed back up. Like if you were a jogger, you don't want to take a week off, because you come back later and you've lost a bit of speed. It's easier and more practical to stay at the speed you need to be at from the beginning.

[VernMan92]

well just get a good sleep and take some cafeine and sugar before the match.

[ShiroGomi]

It's not that much of an expansive issue. It's all about the short-term. Gets the heart pumping to the brain, heightening response time for tough micro moves. Trust me, in my time of playing SC, I can attest that this technique works (if you know the rest of the hotkeys well enough). If the pros do it, you can safely assume it has a purpose.

[renateitor]

lag

[GlowKi]

what does that got to do with him not getting emp shockwave? just one emp and all those carriers lose shield. which would basicly cripple them vs gols.

course vessels are vespene gas heavy (I believe 100 min 225 gas) so maybe oov thought it would be wiser to use that 250 gas on 5 gols instead (100 min 50 gas)

[DoctorKimchi]

I don't know why you keep marking me down, but w/e.

"My guess is that he thought it would be too costly, and Goliaths can do the job. Or maybe he forgot."

Basically repeating myself.

225 gas is a ton when going metals. Plus shields can restore, so all Nal_ra would have to do is micro, heal his interceptors, and restore shields. And Goliaths already rape through carriers, so it doesn't do much. Please check Teamliquid, because they have a full topic of why not to use EMP.

[Shwamperoos]

I'm sure there's a reason oov didn't do this, but i would've made a lil use of EMP

[DoctorKimchi]

My guess is that he thought it would be too costly, and Goliaths can do the job. Or maybe he forgot.

[magcalas]

X_X SO MUCH CLICKING AND SO FAST >.<

[Silveraliens]

they dont click on scv what hotkey they use

[Jyvblamo]

Lol, s?

[a7r0ci7y]

camlito youre right man .. its creepy

[super133t]

battlecruisers used right are the best units

[USiniSteR]

lol carriers r not the most strongest unit... it depends on the situation...

[nurzhik]

don't understand why Nalra gave up? IT seems all have zero in balance, all were exhusted, so why Nalra retreated?

[DoctorKimchi]

I think he ran out of minerals/gas from those carriers. And Oov wouldn't let him get any other expos. So when the carriers are gone, than he would have been done.

[NUMUESTIKK]

You guys realize Nal_rA won? :-D

[camlito]

I keep hearing probes in the begginning...wtf?

[YoungDJC]

Because the audio from both the original VOD and the FPVOD are playing.

[natewei]

all games need a unit like carriers to make noobs feel like good players

[demohunto3]

why da fuck do they have to talk so much?

[Dysania86]

Because they're announcers?

[rl0u8888]

o wow this was a close one...if the terran had built some cloaked wraiths and used EMP on those carriers...or even locked them down...he would have won

[dragoons9009]

to answer rl0u8888 this is a money resource strained map it is hard to do that. Goliaths on the other hand are much cheaper to produce and have a higher combat value. but the emp would have been very effective indeed ^^

[rl0u8888]

o i c

[rl0u8888]

lol i keep clicking in the mini map...hahah gues i keep forgetting that im not actually playing :P

[sisocrack]

Why did nal_ra retreat? it didn't seem he was losing yet.

[IamAlwaysRight]

Omg one of them has an ass ugly suit. LOL

[cbtwentyfour]

Carriers are a little cheap but they're definitely beatable.

[cbtwentyfour]

I'd like to see what these guys would do against the rush.

I guess there's something saying that they can't rush.

Anyway just wondering.

[amished037]

Of course they can rush, but with pretty large amounts of prize money on the line, they want to have a little bit better chance to win. They know that the micro and rush defense of all the Korean Gosus is so great that it's probably less than a 50/50 chance to end it, and if they fail, the difference in economies should lose them the game overall.

[cbtwentyfour]

Meh.. Thats a good point.. i was just wondering

[innocence27]

how could they possibly rush? it's an island map . .

[cbtwentyfour]

I meant to rush on other maps

[m0ngh]

Carrier=win

[lxleightlxl]

lol Carrier=i can't win with the rest of the protoss race so I'll use the most powerful unit in the game :p and carriers still get owned.

[thecoffinilaidin]

does anyone good Terran counters, and i mean effective ones where you dont need to spend shit lots on minerals and gases, for Carriers or Ultralisks?

[progenitor00]

shuttle drop in the begining then arbiters lategame is standard. but mostly its about having more units than ur opponent and micro.

[Jules72Bear]

GG! What map is this? Any where that i can DL starleague maps? LT is getting old!!

[hofodomo01]

lol the video clearly displays "parallel lines" in the opening.

its a good map.

[H4rdboiled]

nalra was like 14 year old back then X_x

[wala100]

GG Nal_Ra I realized how carriers can kick ass

[frozenclaw]

IloveOov should be the best cuz his macro is astounding and his micro's not out of date.

[UndeadIsHax]

Carriers owned. But well, the resource difference was that shit in the game. And BC's are gayness too but nothing is SC is overpowered like in Warcraft where people still bitch about all kinds of stuff even to this day.

[TheCorruptedNerd]

why no ghosts? :(

[katdisorder]

good question... oh well

[mcgarrah]

fuck yes ra is the best. "an act of god" accomplished by ra.

[messitup]

i love i love oov

[TMaStAA]

Sweet game.. I hate carriers :/

[kakashipwnz]

stupid carriers!! but not bad goliath microin

[TheCorruptedNerd]

thank you so much for coming back now i have something to watch! ;)

[paratrooper123]

welcome back. Thanks for the great vid. It's been depressing to see the slumping oov these days, so young oov is a pleasure to watch, even though he lost to young ra, who also seemed to play better back then.

[Roryk16]

carriers are the gayness

[llihnroht]

lol @ 5:12 - he missed =P

the difference in resources was too great.

and welcome back violeTAK! (for your short stay =T ) thanks for all the great uploads!

[silbers]

welcome back Viloe TAK!

[EmilEiermann2]

why for gods sake, oov didnt use EMP to destroy the carriers, would have been much more easy that way!

[BrianJunglist]

i dont like the way they did it this time i wana c both fighters

[EpicHiroDJ]

of course ideally it would be dynamic and we'd get to choose whichever, but first person view tells me a lot more about how a pro reacts to a given situation ..... but i guess it comes down to entertainment value, in the minds of the producers of the show at least -shrug-

[doob10163]

welcome back violeTAK. I thought you weren't coming until boxer came back?

[VioleTAK]

I'm not :-) got maybe 2-3 days free from work per month, when I sometimes go back home and actually have an internet connection, might as well slowly and gradually finish the list of stuff I wanted to upload and never got to, and there's too much as it is :-)

[StarfoxFire]

So you're one of those businessmen that fly a lot internationally to business meetings etc.?

[Zenocided]

Finally more videos. Thx!