Lotus F1 2010 Windtunnel test

[BeauKnight96]

Make a monkey drive it!!!!

[BeauKnight96]

Make

[solngv8]

That's the coolest looking model! I want one. :-)

[fcuker5]

Agreed @gnark1us, and perhaps a figure-of-eight circuit with an 'all-or-nothing' unrestricted crossroads.....

[gnark1ll1us]

will someone please stick an F1 car to the ceiling to stop the argument once and for all.

Also we shoudl consider a track with an upside down part FFS.

[brucecheewai]

@gnark1ll1us read in f1racing a few year ago it can't be done. in terms of downforce produced it can, but the engine won't run because the fluids such as fuel and all need gravity for the car to run. that's what i read. i'm sure if they set out to make an f1 car that can run upside down, they can.

[HawkZachary]

MALAYSIA BOLEH

[crzygutrsnobrdr]

that model would be so sick to make rc.

[Merkagee]

I can't treat this team as the same team that won the championships years ago. In my opinion they are completely different, and they say they are celebrating their 500th grand prix this weekend.

[simobgbgbg]

liopronel!

[indoshakermaker]

Give them a few seasons. Just like red bull.

[arnoldomario]

incrivel.

[what2010thefuck]

Lotus is Back :)

[dunderhill1]

hahahaha its so funny reading all these comments you guys really have no idea.......

[StarCatcher23]

LOTUS SHIT

[Nobody1846]

Jaguar is good

Lotus ist best!

a Point is possible!!!

Hope more.

Greetings from Germany!

Come on Lotus!!!!

[DrJCCC20]

scion xb is a box with wheels lol

[chuckmcberry]

i love the lotus name and the drivers that it has brought into the sport of formula one but one thing i have learnt everytime a new team uses a legendery name in motor sport i have always felt let down and from what ive herd im not holding my breath because i come from one of thows who were let down about jaguar f1 and why would this be any differate to that

[MarciareOMarcire]

What was causing the chassis to move up and down? was it the downforce? it couldn't have been because the car was going so slow...

[wo0dy1]

remember its in a wind tunnel so they would be blasting air at the car to simulate speed on race day, the car wonr be moving very fast as it only has the rolling road, but the downforce will still work on all the wings, because of the speed the air is being blown at the car..

[MarciareOMarcire]

@wo0dy1 OK so you're saying the rolling road doesn't move as fast as the air, right?

[wo0dy1]

yeah pretty much... look at it this way.. the car is in a big shed there is no wind or anythign.. the car is on the rolling road so its wheeles will move, but the car its self wont move, as a result, there wouldnt be any air movement over the car.. so now you add in the air blown by the big fan, thats where the air comes from which makes the down force work on the car..

make any sense ? lol

[MarciareOMarcire]

@wo0dy1 Well I knew all that but it seems like the road and wheels moving slower than the air cause the test results to be incorrect? Because when the car is actually taken to the track, air speed will be directly proportional to the speed of the wheels/ground, so...

[wo0dy1]

test run on the rolling road in the test conditions, wouldnt matter how fast the wheels go round, they wouldnt effect the air flow around the car. the results from this test would b on each airodynamic part, the rear wing. run air over it find out how much downforce it creats. the air going over the wing simulates the car on race day its wheels could be in reverse but as long as there is measured air flow over the wing it will cause downforce and get a reading, unchanged by speed of wheels/road

[MrBennyC1983]

@wo0dy1 rolling wheels have a large effect on the aerodynamic performance of a vehicle.

[wo0dy1]

@MrBennyC1983 how do you work that out, when the tests are done in a wind tunnel, where all variables are controlled

[MrBennyC1983]

@wo0dy1 Im doing a masters in motorsport engineering, Im currently revising for the aerodynamics module. rotating wheels cause the flow to separate earlier (than around a stationary wheel), air flow over & around the wheels will have an affect on the surrounding bodywork.

[wo0dy1]

@MrBennyC1983 so does it increasing wheel motion always create the flow to alter, or is it one of those things where its affected up to a set speed, but then anything faster will have no changes on the air flow, or is it something that is always changed as speed increases up to an infinite speed. ?

also this is a scale model so would the results they get be able to get scaled up, or would they need new tests on full size car?

[ursavostock]

@MrBennyC1983 So does this mean that rotating wheels create a boundary layer of turbulence that disrupts laminar flow? I had always suspected that and wondered if F1 aerodynamicists accounted for that.

Is there a function or equation for calculating that? Or is that pretty much up to the wind tunnel to figure it out?

[LeJimster]

It's a shame the lotus looks like a box with wheels, it's quite ugly..

Atleast the Virgin car looks nice/aggressive even if it's just as slow lol.

[martinimax07]

i agree and im glad im not the only who thinks it looks like a box with wheels lol

[seinfeld11123]

wow look at the ride height change from the downforce, thats alot of d/f

[SolarPL]

@seinfeld11123 Or they are testing how ride hight affects downforce and drag (with constant speed)

[TodoFormulaUno]

Thanks for all visitis and coments! =)

[1malaysiaf1team]

Wish the best for all the F1 team

[darshanmeda]

hang on,i was watching the rest of the video...are they manually raising/lower the car to check the optimum height or something?

[ROCKSOLID19]

they were checking the chassis dimensions (or dynamics) for its behaviour and how the thing behaves during a race.

[darshanmeda]

ya,thats what i figured...but how is it rising & lowering...on its own aero forces or manually with some hydraulic jacks or some such thing?

[ROCKSOLID19]

I would imagine that they would test v car with manual jacks as u said but also ona rolling road ina wind tunnel to check its true ground effects. In v late 70's Colin Chapman, founder of Lotus discovered that during the test he noticed at high speed that the car was being sucked into the ground while it was going faster due 2 the air pushing it down. This discovery made him realize that the dimensions of the cars wings can be adjusted accordingly to track & weather conditions while in the pits

[darshanmeda]

at ~0:35, is that the car hunkering down due to the aero downforce??? wow,i knew they generate upto 3-4g but thats so much of movement you see in the video!! amazing! i hope its not the camera thats shaking or some stupid thing like that...

[MrBennyC1983]

@darshanmeda the car is moved up and down by another means, they are checking how the ride height affects downforce (I think)

[ROCKSOLID19]

I am looking forward to this coming season! Lotus has the technology, the british know how that has made Formula 1 what it is today and hopefully there would be a good driver that is chasing down their first champions title for the 4th year running. Cmon Lotus!! =D

[athensbroadsword]

I'm very much into the Lotus name in F1 but I'm also afraid that the lack of experience will make them moving obstacles in the track, and the same goes for all new manufacturers for 2010...

[felipepreah]

There is no talk of Lotus not to mention the best of all time ... AYRTON SENNA ... that good that the lotus is back to F-1.

[ROCKSOLID19]

Aryton Senna is a total legend and the best!, but the wheels of motorsport keeps on turning unfortunatly and in a way his death has made future generations of cars and drivers safer and more responsible. You know in Canada few years back, Robert Kubica's crash? The technology and safety standards have made that BMW and all others on grid robust in order to reduce the chances of injury and even the possibility of fatalities.

Despite this, motorsport would always be as dangerous as a knife.

[war2448]

awesome... ^^V hope that lotus can get a better place of constructor title this 2010 season.

[GoAround1]

Let's see if all this mumbo jumbo delivers a good lap time.

[tommahow]

No it is a 50:1 Model as big as a house, made of pure breadpudding

[EduSanjuan777]

So cocky, no doubt you´re brittish. As a spanish I don´t care so you´re probably right. But a spanish pilot is winning the W.Champ this year with a not so british car.

[AlexDeLarge90]

and you are already certain of this?

btw, Ferrari used to employ tons of british engineers to design their cars, Harvey Postlethwaite, John Barnard and Rory Byrne when Schumacher was driving for them

The british team made Formula 1 what it is today, not freaking Ferrari. Lotus for instance pioneered most of the stuff you see today.

[ROCKSOLID19]

yeah, ferrari has a test centre in i think its Milton Keynes or somewhere in Berkshire or other counties

[ROCKSOLID19]

If you did more reserch and be more in-depth with your views EDUSanjuan777, without british engineering, F1 would not be what it is today and behind every team, there is a british bloke applying imput into the car for making it as competitive car as possible, ESPECIALLY IN SUSPENSION, HANDLING, ELETRONICS, TYRE COMPOUND MEASUREMENTS, PHYSICAL PARAMETERS TRAINED IN BRITISH UNIVERSITIES ETC ETC.

WE DON'T TAKE SIESTAS!! =)

[WeDieYoung1083]

right on, F1 would not be where it's at today without the Brit's innovation.

[ROCKSOLID19]

Well its not just F1, its all other types of sport. Le Mans, Indycar, motoGP (motorcycles), World Rally, even boat racing. If Roger Penske for example never used Britains expertese, obsession and drive, he would not be where he is, simple as that. America has also good engineers, mostly on aircraft.

[nowheelspin]

when the car goes down is that because of wind pressure ? or is the car lowered to check different aerodynamic properties .

[MrBennyC1983]

@nowheelspin no it is not down force.. yes they are checking ride height affect on aero

[vetteburna]

I'm guessing a 1:2 model is easier to get around and work with..

[1malaysiaf1team]

The car is the only formula one car developed outside Europe...even Force India,despite using the name India,it's a matter of fact developed in Brtiian...according to a source this 1Malaysia F1 car is ready to hit the tarmac

[willywillmore]

Sorry,but this(the new Lotus)is being built in Norfolk,in England.Mercedes,Renault,Willi­ams, Mclaren,Virgin GP,Red Bull AND Force India are all English based teams.Ferrari and Toro Rosso are Italian, Sauber is Swiss,Campos Spanish(tho Italian firm Dallara is building the chassis)and US F1 is American.The Cosworth engines are built in Northampton and the best engine-the Mercedes-is built in Brixworth,down the road.Brits have the best engineers, we just can't keep our businesses in British hands!

[1malaysiaf1team]

@willywillmore

well my friend,thats for now...the 1malaysia f1 team principle declare that next year a plant will be built in malaysia,located not far from sepang f1 circuit...

[muiramas]

Who is going to build their car in Malaysia?

[willywillmore]

Yes, I'd heard they wanted to get more Malaysians involved. Tony Fernandes is a clever guy who runs a tight ship, and he's very patriotic.

[1malaysiaf1team]

@willywillmore

That's true.Even Fairuz Fauzi,former A1 driver is one of the driver for the team,however some say he's more likely suitable for the test driver's seat.About TS,he is one of the most successful entrepreneur in Malaysia.

[1malaysiaf1team]

btw fairuz fauzi is malaysian..

[MrBennyC1983]

@1malaysiaf1team I think these are just nice words to make the malaysian people happy. if the proton management have any sense, they will keep everything in one place... you dont want to end up like toyota do you? maybe they will recruit malaysians to live in england though

[mrtariq182]

@MrBennyC1983 :P Im half malay and half English so i dont care where they go to. Just hoping they will accept me after i finish uni :D

[TheOutlaw901]

Although US F1 has a lot of British engineers working on it.

[ROCKSOLID19]

Definatly! Without British imput and know-how, F1 would be nothing and without British engineering, would Schumacher be sucessful??/ I doubt it! =)

[grantpolo]

sounds like a hover

[TMNtamonte]

I believe it is a 1:2 scaled model.

So the real car has double height, width and lenght...or if u prefer 8 times the volume :P

[monoufuma]

What is this? A vehicle for ants?

The car has to be at least... three times bigger than this

[mitch2701]

scale model ;)

[GTAstuntz]

It's 60% of the real model i think.

[haziqdaM5fanatic]

@monoufuma It's not really a problem. BMW also used the same model size or maybe a bit smaller. Maybe it's because of that it's easier to work on a smaller car than a big car...

[muiramas]

yeah, because when aircraft are tested in wind tunnels, they use a 1:1 scale model?

[djtorin]

i see the humour in this comment (and the reference to zoolander!) clearly all the people that gave you thumbs down must be called norman and wear grey everyday.

[TheBIGFISHI]

me to

he´s the best driver

[craigsimons1993]

@amatzal just remember that Lotus is British. What really angers me is that when Litespeed, a British operation that tired to get permission from Proton (the Malaysian company that owns Lotus) to use the Lotus name is F1, Proton said no. The suddenly a Malaysian comapny called 1Malaysia comes along and they welcome then with open arms. Thats favouritism at its worst and I worry they wil make a mockerey of Lotus. I mean Malaysia hardly has the richest motorsport culture it the world does it...

[clance13]

i hope massa will win ths year!

[markie101uk]

you hope lol

[KCclegg01]

I very much look foward to the return of such an iconic name to motorsport, they'll be off the pace at first but I suspect they could they'll score a point or 2 this year.

[AlexDeLarge90]

a surprise podium would be nice

[supersevenn]

Why all this hoopla about Lotus? This is just a brand new team with the "name" Lotus, thats all. The team owner has the rights to the name, nothing more, nothing less. i believe the real Lotus company has agreed to try and assist in development

[Nish2280]

If you hadnt posted this here i bet a few teams would have paid for this video...

*COUGH* MCLAREN *COUGH*

[samtheman180]

The reason why F1 is what it is today, is because of Lotus you twat

[MrHumerousify]

@samtheman180 F that the REAL REASON is because ayrton senna made the team competitive and famous..now 20 years later what this team has?kovalinen?who was in mclaren but rarely score podiums in a superior team.

[szlaszlo84]

@MrHumerousify come now.. Ayrton won a couple of races with Lotus but the performance of Lotus cars was legendary before Senna even started racing in F1.. Senna joined the team that already lost Colin Chapman and thus was going down the drain.. Chapman made Lotus great not Senna..

[AlexDeLarge90]

how stupid are you anyway MrHumerousify??

Lotus invented groundeffect, monocoque chassis, the engine as a stressed member of the chassis and tons of other inventions

Get this you idiot. Lotus won 6 drivers' and 7 constructors titles' BEFORE Senna races for them you IDIOT

What about Jim Clark, Graham Hill, Jochen Rindt, Emerson Fittipaldi and Mario Andretti? All champions with Lotus and very respected names.

In fact in 1973 Lotus even overtook Ferrari as the most successful team in F1

[ROCKSOLID19]

Totally agree with that and I agree so much i would repeat this sentance.

Totally agree with that and I agree so much i would repeat this sentance.

Without Lotus and British know-how and engineering, yes OK people like Gordon Murray from Sout Africa but he made the McLaren F1 and several other projects that are world renown for their excellent capabilities along with british imput. Colin Chapman was slightly crazy but crazy people can be geniuses and C.B.A.C is a genius of a man.

[swedishgamer]

@AlexDeLarge90 Ronnie Peterson ;-)

[craigsimons1993]

@MrHumerousify I'm a huge Senna fan, but your just being dam right pathetic here. Lotus was competitive and famous even before Ayrton Senna raced for them. You only have to think of all their innovative inventions i.e. monocoque chassis, ground effect and active suspension; along with all the great drivers who raced for them such as Graham Hill, Emerson Fittipaldi & Mario Andretti, they were all champions.

[f1fan84]

@samtheman180 haahahahahahahahaha

[jaxpower1]

@MrHumerousify if you dont know about what lotus has achieved in F1 then you know jack shit about F1.

[WASPTexas]

you tell that dumb jerk

Lotus was the team mostly responsible in developing F1 in the 60's and 70's.

[watanabehefuml]

@MrHumerousify

your mom sucks better

[djtorin]

who is gonna be driving for them? someone pretty small by the look of the car!

[WASPTexas]

ever heard of scale models?

[djtorin]

ever heard of sarcasm?

clearly i was joking you muppet.

[AXL9691]

so this it the car for incoming bahrain race?

[f1adore]

nice video its nice to see whats going on during the off season

[TodoFormulaUno]

thank you!

[f1adore]

where did u find this video?

[f1adore]

looks too much like an evolution of tf109 rather than a force india c lone