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  • Thank you.

    All the best.

  • Some people are going to believe that Linux is much better than Windows because they imitated the look and feel of Macos. Nobody will ever say that they copied it though...

  • @CornilHenry well not really, most ppl say Linux is better cause the security, stability , customization etc etc , the look just came included :D , PD : srry my english xD

  • @CornilHenry Linux can be anything you want it to be. It can look or act like whatever, but I prefer just to pick a good interface and stick with it.

  • @CornilHenry Imitated the look and feel of Mac OS.... Quite the contrary..... GNU/Linux was before Mac ever thought of existing. Furthermore, because Linux is open source, the amount of customization is limitless as long as you know what you're doing.

    Mac and Windows are limited to what Mac and Windows want, and what people with contracts with them want.

    Furthermore, Mac and windows BOTH fail in security in comparison to Linux. And both require more memory to run, with that shitty security.

  • Beryl very good.

  • I like this video.

  • Thank you for shring.

  • Beryl is great.

  • awwww man i want that its so crazy and so cool *o*

  • LiENucksssssss FAILS DUDES BIG TIME

    80132407

  • does this work on Windows?

  • @THEKINGOFEUR0PE this isnt an application its an operating system

  • @THEKINGOFEUR0PE No, this is for linux only

  • @THEKINGOFEUR0PE Compiz is only for GNU/Linux! FUCK YEA :D

  • When i saw this first tame, i've installed ubuntu, and after i got used to it. i switched to tile WM's like *box or Awesome, and don't use Compiz.

  • hej siemka tak ogladalem to na jednym forum i ciekawi mnie jak to zrobic doopiero co zaczolem korzystac z linuxa i ubuntu fascynuje mnie to a to co ty zes zrobil ten cube na pulpicie itd poprostu w deche jest czy mozesz jakos polecic mi materialy szkoleniowe jak mam zaczac przygode zeby za jakis czas robic takie cuda??

  • thank you

  • hey plz give me this window free plz i love it

  • This video is stolen!

  • @ZoneSixFilms Stolen from who ??? show me then the original video with a early date.. and then u can say is stolen ... 

  • @nekrerzy oh sorry wrong firefox tab :P

    Can you tell me what dock you used there?

  • @ZoneSixFilms Kibadock

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  • I remember seeing this for the first time...I wanted it to have it so bad, that I dreamed about it. Thanks to that I learned about linux, unix and a bunch of other stuff that I woudn't have if I sticked with windows.

  • simon, esta machin este jale ese

  • nice to think using linux has been this great for this long. I've got every effect in this video- on an integrated laptop card no less- minus 1: which dock is that and is it current?

  • @Dustindarninvalid That dock is Kiba-Dock back when it had a functional physics engine. Though it was an excellent dock, development on it ceased and hence has been surpassed in terms of actual functionality (not to mention stability). IMO the best dock around currently is Cairo-Dock.

  • @LordDestros

    that's too bad. I don't really like cairo-dock that much honestly, is there another with a similar physics engine?

  • @Dustindarninvalid There's guides on Ubuntu forums for how to compile older releases (which include a functional Akamaru physics engine) from source along with possibly a few precompiled deb packages. Note though that enabling Akamaru may lower dock stability and because you are running older builds, other useful features may not be present in the releases.

  • @LordDestros

    I know, that's why I'm staying away. I dislike running abandoned software on my machine. By the way, I'm not running any debian based distros, I triple boot gentoo, slack and BackTrack.

  • @Dustindarninvalid Ahh. I can definitely understand that. To my knowledge there currently aren't any other docks with physics engines that are actively developed though I may be wrong. Though I thought the implementation of a physics engine was nice in concept, it could be a nuisance at times and I personally never saw much benefit from it.

  • what did you do with the taskbar thing the bottom did you deleted and if you did how?

  • Para usar esto necesitas descargar e instalar Ubuntu puedes hacerlo desde ubuntu.com NOTA: es un sistema operativo completo has respaldo de todos tus archivos antes de instalarlo

  • how do i get this i have been searching for days

  • @vidkeeper9 in order to use this u have to download ubuntu from ubuntu.com Important: make a bakcup of all ur files before u intall this.

  • @nekrerzy lol, why should he install Ubuntu just for that desktop? Just install it for everything that MS can't ;)

  • expectacular

  • good video!

  • LOL WINDOWS 7 IS WAY BETTER. linux isnt that great. plus the look of this ver. looks alot like vista and 7 and looks cheesey with the movement of windows being moved and what not. plus you got to do every single thing ur self which is kinda retard.

  • @khanshi No, it's not 'retard', it allows you to actually have control. Plus, the effects on Compiz Fusion are fantastic, way better than Windows. Windows used the gui of Apple's OS, which used Xerox's. So if you're too lazy to get something good, even for free, then don't bother others with it.

  • @khanshi you don't know anything about Linux... Win7 released in 2009 September or October, I don't care but this little guy Ubuntu 6.10 has relased in 2006 october... Think! It was 3 years before than Win7 and way better than that

  • if you want the cube get linux

  • i saw full metal alchemit is the cube

  • Hahaha you idiot look at the date i made this video from my computer and they used later for vista vs beryl video thats all xD hahaha fucking noob

  • he stole this video off of Vista Aero vs Ubuntu Beryl fucking retard

  • Hey man tienes todo esto en una pc

    como le haces???

    bacan ah !!

  • wow theyve outdone themselves

  • How to install that Dock thing?

  • @naseralnowais Google: "Ubuntu dock"

  • mui bue

  • how or where do i download all the effects of beryl for my windows 7 desktop i really want em so bad please anyone

  • beryl is for linux only (linux) is open source OS sorry not for windows :(

  • Go on linux.....

  • that's "above" 30"......not "about" 30"

  • What aegnt09 failed to mention is that any monitor about 30" is automatically considered an HDTV television.

    And seeing as how EVERY television is built at 1080p (1920x1200), his comment just proves his pointlessness, ineptitude and general idiocy when trying to win a fight.

  • "And seeing as how EVERY television is built at 1080p..."

    Not that I'm supporting aegnt09 (I disagree with him on the vast majority of his views), not ALL televisions are 1080p. There are plenty of 720p and sub-720p televisions on the market along with a few 1080i televisions.

  • True, though they're quickly fading out, especially with the introduction of OLED and 3D TVs. I'm hard pressed to find a TV below 1080p these days......but, I do stand corrected.

  • isnt 1080p  1920x1080?!

  • @Muuhmonster

    Correct, yes.

  • ouch! it is one thing to see a flame war but it is another to watch a guy like aegnt09 sink himself so badly! this kid is getitng the biggest beat down of his life

  • Hey G37, he sent me a private message CHALLENGING me to find a better price than his 27" iMac that cost him $2700 bucks!

    I told him that yesterday someone else challenged me to do the same thing, and I was able to build a system with exactly the same parts for $687 bucks, plus a Samsung 305T 30" monitor with 2560x1600 resolution (trumping the Mac) for about 1200 bucks! The whole thing came to $1886!

    That's $1000 bucks less than his piss-poor iMac!

  • haha yep i know! nobody who is computer savvy buys Mac. they go to mac because windows frustrates them too much and it is always their fault to begin with. so they go to mac and get ripped off by apple. nice comparison tho! i actualyl thought the iMac was somewhat well priced but obviously I was dead wrong

  • I STILL can't believe he said that he could get the same FPS performance out of his iMac if he took the time to do so!

    Wow! Just........wow! I am actually speechless! Macboys NEVER have any hard evidence, and I've seen them stoop very low to try and win an argument.....but this!...........this is just beyond insane!

  • I can't believe you are surprised Max. Did you really think you would get a smart debate out of a Mac person? You would have an easier time getting a sheep to confess to the whereabouts of Jimmy Hoffa

  • Meh.

    I guess deep down I just hate seeing people get ripped off.

  • @MaximusCerberus I spent money on 6 PC's and 3 Macs. MORE MONEY on PC. I am obviously going to use whats better.

    Why am I using the Mac?

  • @G37KILR

    Windows is for people who are computer illiterate. ITS SO FUCKING BASIC!!!

  • @MaximusCerberus no links. i dont believe you.

  • And this is the same guy who says "Windows and powerful shouldn't be used in the same sentence!"

    Meanwhile my PC is running Crysis at maxed settings at 1920x1200 and getting a steady 50-55 FPS! And it's CRYSIS we're talking about here! Not a cheap, graphically forgiving console port like Modern Warfare 2!

    Ohhhh, the hilarity of it all!

  • @MaximusCerberus 30fps was a guess. I rarely play games on the computer because i have a 360. i play on the nice big tv in the living room while you play in your parents dark basement on a 19 inch screen.

    It's funny how basic windows is. you don't even have system wide spell check yet XD its 2010!!! get with the picture microshit!!!

  • ok woe woe woe buddy! now you are just embarrassing yourself! why are you still talking about shit you dont know?

  • @MaximusCerberus If I spend as much as you did on your PC on a Mac I will get the same fps and settings.

  • Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahaha!!!­!! WIth WHAT??? Your 512MB video card??? Hahahahaha!! Oh CHrist, I am DYING of laughter here!!

    You're telling me that you're going to run Crysis on a Mac with a 512MB video card at 1920 x 1200 resolution on VERY HIGH settings and achieve 55 FPS???

    Do you also ride Unicorns in your spare time and keep Leprechauns in your closet?

  • As for hooking up my computer to a 19" screen.....I own a 62" Plasma HDTV there son!! Try hooking your MAC into that! It doesn't even have an HDMI port because Apple is too stupid to have included something like that on the machine!

    Don't play the pissing contest with me. You'll LOSE!

  • @MaximusCerberus I will hook my mac up to it. Apple adds a little port called mini dvi which allows practically any type of connection including HDMI. I have a 32 inch monitor 1080p hooked up to my MBP. so yeah.

  • PFFFFFFFFFFFFFhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh­ahahahahahaha!!!!!

    MiniDisplay port doesn't beat HDMI, you stupid little shit!! What planet are you from??? HDMI is the DEFACTO STANDARD for HD content, PERIOD!

    Do Blu-Ray players use MiniDisplay? NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Do game consoles use MiniDisplay? NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Do HDTVs use MiniDisplay? NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Stupid little fuck! I can MURDER you all day long!

  • @MaximusCerberus

    Mini display port is used as a converter into practically any type of connection. vga, hdmi, anything.

  • VGA? OUTDATED!!

    HDMI? STANDARD on EVERYTHING! So now you've already overpaid for a piss-poor Mac, and now you have to go out and buy an adapter.

    Whereas every PC and laptop has already gotten with the times and embraced the STANDARD technology, HDMI......a device that handles audio/video and broadband on a single cable. Hmmmmmm, which is the winner? Can MiniDisplay tackle audio and broadband?

    Nope!!!

    You're funny, but it's unbelievable just how much of a newbie amateur you are!

  • as for you Max i would end it. you are getting worked up over this kid for no reason. he doesnt know what hes talking about but you keep feeding him. he is a troll. so stop feeding him

  • @G37KILR nom nom nom :D

  • It's alright, dude. There's a difference between feeding a troll, and slaying one . I've been murdering this kid since early this afternoon.

    First of all.....it's fun. Second of all, I'm curious to see just what silly and hilarious depths he'll stoop to to try and win an argument. Third, I like putting morons in their place.

    But you're right. The simple fact that he migrated to Mac proves that he couldn't handle Windows properly, and decided to bend over and grab his ankles for Apple.

  • @MaximusCerberus

    So your saying my computer is outdated because it has the ability to use VGA... ummm... just because it has the ability to run any type of connection outdated and new doesnt make it outdated. it gives it more options.

    mini DVI can do sound threw an hdmi hookup. All minidvi does is make less ports on the computer.

  • Hahahahahaha!!! As opposed to HDMI, which handles EVERYTHING!! What happens if you run into a stereo system that doesn't handle HDMI......like SPDIF? Are you telling me Mac is going to forego an SPDIF connection and fuck that many people over?

    Wow! This kid is just looped! Mac = falling behind.  Windows = always moving forward.

  • @MaximusCerberus

    I don't see where your headed with this...

    MiniDVI - converter - every possible connection

    PC - YOu have to have that connection such as HDMI or your fucked.

    If a stereo comes out with that i will just buy a minidvi to whatever it handles...

  • No, you're NOT fucked! It's called "moving ahead!" I would NEVER, EVER, EVER, EVER buy a monitor with a VGA connection, because every single one of them is HDMI or DVI nowadays!

    So unless you're using a 10 year CRT monitor, you don't need VGA! You use HDMI! If you need to interface with DVI, you buy a DVI adapter.

    It STILL doesn't change the fact that HDMI has replaced......literally......e­verything, and is now the premium defacto standard for anything HD-related.

    Wake the fuck up.

  • @MaximusCerberus

    whats with your obsession with limiting options? Ok so i buy a decent monitor for $30 used from somewhere. oh no. why can't i use it? because i only have HDMI. what ever will I do?

  • Seeing as how most video cards come with either TWO DVI ports or TWO HDMI ports, it doesn't really limit anything!

    Seeing as how practically ALL Win-based laptops come with an HDMI port, dual-linking two monitors together is a synch either for desktops or laptops.

    Oh, and really good 23" monitors with 5ms response time and 1920x1200 resolution start at around $149 bucks, so price is not an option unless you're deadpan poor.

  • @MaximusCerberus

    a 32 inch monitor with a 1920x1200 resolution and 60 response time starts at $500 so... i doubt it.

  • Of COURSE they do!! What are you trying to prove? Just moments ago you were talking about purchasing a cheap-ass $30 monitor, and now all of a sudden you're quoting $500 monitors?

  • i see you are still at this. i dont know why you dont just quit. max has been kicking your ass all day long and your arguments have fallen apart. when are you going to learn??

  • Dam, I wish Apple and Ubuntu went together to make one amazing OS and wipe windows, that burden on society off the face of the earth.

  • Yeah, and then we'd have the world's most gimmicky, least productive, least versatile OS.

  • @MaximusCerberus No, we would have to world's most featured, productive, stable OS.

    You think windows is productive? CRASH. there goes your work :D

  • Hahahaha! I haven't had a crash in 8 years, kiddo. Comes with the territory of knowing what I'm doing.

    If Linux and Apple were as great as you say they are, their combined market share would be higher than 8%.

    Thanks for playing. Facts talk.....bullshit walks.

  • @MaximusCerberus

    Hahahaha! If you knew what you were doing, you would know crashing rarely ever has anything to do with the user. also bullshit you havnt.

    People don't buy Macs because they believe lies. like macs can't game, or they are incompatible, or they have 1 button mice, etc.

    It's funny how 100% of people who hate Mac or linux have never actually owned ether. ;)

  • Actually, SIMPLETON......crashing has EVERYTHING to do with the user! People who crash are usually morons like yourself who open all of your EXE Junk Mail attachments, then wonder why you have 347 viruses on your system crashing it to death.....while simultaenously breezing through install packages and wondering why you have 5 toolbars and a hijacker in your browser.

    I've dual-booted Ubuntu and Kubuntu on more than one occasion, and I've forgotten more Macs than you'd used in your time.

  • Fact is this....if you're an idiot, you'll fuck up Windows and it'll crash.

    ANOTHER fact......I've seen OSX kernel panic more times than I can count, so there's no stability in that system either.

    Conversation OVER! I don't waste time with insignificant children who believe whatever comes most easy to them. Goodbye.

  • macs are jokes buddy! LOL  max is totally right about windows. you are just too dumb to know how to handle it. go play with your mac and enjoy crysis at 1024x768 with 10 FPS :)

  • Well said, my friend! Well said! Macboys and their stupidity! In the last three days I've had 1 Macboy tell me that HDMI doesn't support broadband internet (hahahaha!!), another has told me that the least powerful Mac will beat the most powerful PC (despite the 8-core Mac Pro being unable to hit 30 FPS on Call of Duty 4 at 1680x1050), and another has told me that the reason the 17" Macbook costs $1500 more than a Win7 laptop of equal hardware is because of the ALUMINUM CASE!!

    Un-fuckin-real!

  • heheh! pay of no mind dude. in the end we can sit back and laugh knowing they bought macs like blind sheep. meanwhile we will be enjoying our monstrously powerful PCs :)

  • Indeed, buddy! Indeed!

  • @G37KILR

    ahahahaha I have 6 PC's one has a 3.2 quad and 3 Macs.

    PC and powerful should not be in the same sentence. XD your funny. you have never owned a mac before. infact i doubt you have even used one.

    WIndows is BASIC AS FUCK. I buy Macs because Windows just SUCKS. I have to develop for Windows and OS X so yeah... know what i'm taking about.

    btw my macbook pro(not even a top of the line like a 27 inch imac) gets mw2 to 1440 x 900 maxed out at 30fps

    Learn how to compare a computer.

  • 1440 x 900.......and you're only managing 30 FPS?

    Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahah­ahahaha!!!!!

  • dude if yu are getting 30 fps at that resolution then your mac sucks badly

  • So true! Anyway, time for me to go! I actually feel sorry for this kid. Each time I respond to him, it actually hurts to have to make fun of the fact that his Mac is so far behind, it needs the Hubble Telescope to catch up.

    1440 x 900! LORD have mercy! What YEAR is this, 2003?

  • Microsoft and MAC have what we call fixed/locked "shell". (the shell, is what you see and communicate with through KeyBoard/ Mouse/ .. .

    The total difference with Linux OS is that is personalizable. So you're right, Linux users can have even more visual stuff, but 99,9999% of Linux users don't.

    Until you can prove that people are more efficient working in these visual-enhanced OS'es than standard XP, these visual wonders are a waste of time and money. But it looks nice.

  • @benanderson88 also, this is completely optional. you have to install and enable Compiz (Beryl) to get all these effects. things like this and Aero add to the experience of using the operating system whereas most things in the Mac UI just take away from the use and functionality.

  • @benanderson88 that's because most of the Mac UI takes away from regular functionality. in windows, if your computer can't run Aero, you can turn it off. in Mac, if you're using an underpowered machine, it lags like hell and all you're left with is a hunk of metal that won't even load facebook. i speak from experience on this one.

  • Am thinking about leaving Windows 7 am moving to this. .

  • Very nice .

  • Yup, I want this. Next project.

  • how did you get the window re-opening from the bar like the mac?

  • He's probably running a modified release of Beryl in which the Magic Lamp effect may be set to 0 "curves" (or whatever they are called). Compiz doesn't permit this by default since Apple has patented that visual.

  • awesome

  • thats some crazy shit right there dude lol

  • What dock is up there?

  • kiba-dock

  • very good...

  • SAMBAL OLE OLEK TSCHO HATSi !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • how you install beryl in ubuntu

  • simply you dont must install beryl you can install emerald and compiz setting manager code for that is. sudo apt-get install emerald

  • ay that make me want to be in africa..thanks to youtube for being lucky to see the genius of the african continent...keep it up!

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  • from where i can download this beryl i have downloaded ubuntu but it sucks i want beyrl

  • Why would you want to install Beryl when Compiz Fusion is already pre-installed? You may have Metacity enabled right now.

    To enable Compiz:

    System -> Preferences -> Appearances -> Effects (enable restricted drivers if prompted).

    Install CompizConfig Settings Manager (CCSM) to configure it.

    That said, if you think Ubuntu is horrible, I wouldn't suggest using it just for a window manager though I don't discourage you from trying it out....

  • ubuntu has compiz fusion and beryl and compiz have merged to make compiz fusion, so you have beryl

  • @sitadriver xDDDDDDDDD no comments

  • it looks really cool but what is beryl? is it a theme?

  • Just like Aero For Vista/7

    Beryl is for Ubuntu.

    The awesome side-

    it is for free

  • Beryl is a window manager that has been superseded by Compiz Fusion which is pre-installed (enabled by default depending on your GPU) on Ubuntu.

  • at 2:01, what application is that?

  • it is like rocketdock.

  • is it called "cairo dock". i tried to look for "rocketdock" but could not find. If it is cairo dock, what setting do you use to make that flying stuffs?

  • kiba-dock

  • hey, i know that at 0:53 is a magic lamp effect. But do you adjust the wave? could you give me the setting? i mean how much intensity do you put in the range?

  • Because Apple patented the Genie effect, Compiz by default is shipped requiring atleast 1 "minimum wave" in the Magic Lamp effect. If you really want the effect though, all you have to do is change the minimum value of waves from "1" to a "0" in the Minimize plugin's source code and recompile.

  • is it a theme for unbuntu or it is the os

    if it is a os is there a site you can request a cd like i did with the other versions of ubuntu

  • opps sorry i mean't ubuntu

  • ive got 3 q's

    1. how much better is ubuntu than vista?

    2. how easy is it to use?

    3. Is it supported by the new core i7?

    i wana know b4 i save up. many thnks

  • it is more user friendly as far as i know unlike windows it picks up all your hard ware without much problems. plus free shit.

  • "i wana know b4 i save up."

    What do you mean before you save up o.O? Most Linux distros are free....

  • This ubuntu is 6.0... The current version is 9.04. Yes it is better and yes it supports i7.

  • excuser moi si vous aller me houer mais j'aime pas !!!!!

  • exelente socio.... ya estoy decidido a cambiarme a linux.....

    q buen video...

  • im new to ubuntu who can explain what beryl is please dont call me an idiot everyone has to start somewhere

  • "im new to ubuntu who can explain what beryl is please dont call me an idiot everyone has to start somewhere "

    Beryl was a fork of the original Compiz project and eventually re-merged (with parts of it) forming "Compiz Fusion". The Compiz and Compiz-Fusion projects recently merged and is now known simply as "Compiz".

  • love beryl :D

  • Perfect video! Cool Music!

    After this video I have installed Linux OS and "I'm loving it"! =)

    Just a question - what is DE? Looks like Xfce..

  • Curently I have Ubuntu 8.10 and no complaints, I guess people are married to microsoft and don't want to learn new operating systems

  • linux rules< I tried it on virus infected sites and no computer performance issues

  • tell me how can i make this effect with closing windows in first 7 seconds of this film

  • Looks kind of obsolete. Nice animations anyways.

    But why do people always need to have those huge GUI and Window manager things?

    I mean linux basically just is the shell. Who needs that whole thing?

    Just looks good but makes everything slower (though I guess it's still much faster than any Windows distribution).

  • "Just looks good but makes everything slower"

    Not really. Compiz consumed ~70.0MB of 1GB when I maxed it out and didn't seem to hog any other resources when idle. Most basic animations have insignificant effect on the CPU as using other window managers (e.g. Metacity) typically ended up consuming near the same amount of resources (though less RAM) and provided far less functionality (zoom, live previews, window transparency/brightness/satura­tion control, etc).

  • That may be true but it is still obsolete.

    Or what do you need all these animations for?

  • "That may be true but it is still obsolete.

    Or what do you need all these animations for?"

    If you do not need them then do not enable them. Many that contain eye candy provide functionality as well (e.g. cube and paint fire on screen). Others like "Rain" are entirely useless unless you are trying to stress test your GPU XD.

  • That is soooooo amazing!

    I want ubuntu soo bad now :D

  • Copied Vista? This video was released 2.5 years ago...

  • how is this iconbar called you're using there?

  • That is a sweet background thing. Where did you get it from?

  • Me hace gracias como los marcos de las ventanas imitan a Windows vista...

    Por otra parte, esas animaciones más que nada distraen.

    Lo único útil son los escritorios multiples. El hecho de que salga el cubo solo sirve para distraer.

  • puta madre

  • jeeze ubuntu is awsome from what ive read ive got the live cd its just no computer will play it ='[

    dint argue about microsoft being better or worse

    because they are bother different to other ppls needs and u gotta respect that most of ubuntus stuff is free and they work hard to give u ppl that dont deserve it including me a operating system

  • Make sure you select to boot from the CD when booting up. Your computers' BIOS might not auto-load CDs on boot up.

  • Ubuntu cd will run on any computer, ive installed it on countles laptops, desktops etc. If your BIOS isn`t set to boot from CD first it wont start, and neither will windows

  • funn

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  • Wow, another brilliant computer scholar.

    I'll admit that Ubuntu isn't the best distro, but Microsoft hasn't put out a decent product since 3.1.

    Stop crying and actually try Linux before you post this arrogant shit on mah intarnetz.

  • I really doubt you know anything about Windows 3.1.  It was very unstable.

    Idiot

  • And was it unstable in comparison to the other OSes of its time?

    At time of release, what was everyone else doing? Sure beat MacOS...

    I don't know the answers, it's not a rhetorical question. Hell, i'm a kid.